Drama 101 in Cleveland

[Too Tired]

Guys don't get on the board and rant like that, with 3 post all about how good they treat these women, no useful knowledge posted, it's definitely some chick that got butt hurt.

Long time watcher. You guys aren't experts LOL. Why am I not allowed to be a male and say something like that. It's that surprising to you pricks that other men actually are respectful? I hope your daughters or mothers get treated the way you treat these females. You're the same ones to treat a girl like shit but then cry when her pimp backhands you and robs you. Boohoo. Not saying all girls have good intentions, but you always shit on the good ones and cry when you get the bad ones. No wonder your wives won't fuck you.

[Dark Lotus]

Sounds like this is the escort girl posting this ha?

Guys don't get on the board and rant like that, with 3 post all about how good they treat these women, no useful knowledge posted, it's definitely some chick that got butt hurt.

[GweeSae]

Based off the only two posts "he" has, I agree with your judgement.

Sounds like this is the escort girl posting this ha?

[Too Tired]

Sounds like this is the escort girl posting this ha?

Definitely not. I just actually treat these girls respectfully and gain a lot more out of it ha? Please.

[Searcher55]

Sounds like this is the escort girl posting this ha?

So, call me a white knight if you want or whatever else. But there is a lot of hypocrisy and bullshit. I know a provider who isn't necessarily UTR, but isn't high volume either, but she was telling me the other day about what she goes through and it really made me step back a little. Just like I'm sure there are people on here who had bad experiences, she too has has bad ones so she does light screening to ensure she is safe. There are people who get so pissy about that, but they are the same ones that ask for face pics of her or nudes, but don't want to complete her screening and are incredibly rude to her. She is always polite and accommodating (to me, and from what she has showed me). She has had two Senior members on here completely either ghost her or waste her time incredibly rudely. To the guys that understand that their escort's time and safety is as valuable as yours I applaud you. But to the hypocrites that cry that they get bullshitted but the play games with someone who was nothing but as accommodating as they could be. Why? You then wonder why you don't get good providers. Just because we are the one's donating doesn't necessarily always mean we are entitled. Respect is a two way street.

[LikeEmTiny]

Girls like that belong in institutions.

Should we stay away? Just curious why you say that.

[Oso650]

If I'm hungry, I might go to McDonalds, Longhorn if I want to relax, or Ruth's Chris if I want to dine. I think even the most frugal monger will agree that everyone isn't always in the mood for a burger, even if it will get him full.

Like the other guy said, your position is full of flaws.

This is the biggest hole in your argument.

I spend at least an hour with my expensive girls, if not two or more. And it's not $400 per hour, it's $400 per visit. And it's not restrictive, full of rules, CFS. It's wide open menu, BB, filming. The filming alone allows me to preserve the date. That's my 30 years of fishing gear right there.

Good.

Exactly.

Literally the only thing I spend any money on are my three hobbies, all of which are expensive.

I know you're cherry picking tangible products there, but I get what you're saying. Golf clubs, fishing crap, hunting stuff doesn't interest me at all. What does interest me? Fucking and filming drop dead gorgeous women. So THAT'S what I spend my money on.

Me.

Exactly. I've been dumpster diving, too. I'm sick of it. If I could see four $100 cracked out addicts or one $400 stunner, I know what I'm picking.

[Member #6808]

Like the other guy said, your position is full of flaws.

Your only spending 20 minutes or so of real fun.

This is the biggest hole in your argument.

I spend at least an hour with my expensive girls, if not two or more. And it's not $400 per hour, it's $400 per visit. And it's not restrictive, full of rules, CFS. It's wide open menu, BB, filming. The filming alone allows me to preserve the date. That's my 30 years of fishing gear right there.

and the girl cares NOTHING about you.

Good.

You get what you pay.

Exactly.

People who pay 400 are they also going to the bar and buying everyone drinks and thinking they have a lot of friends.

Literally the only thing I spend any money on are my three hobbies, all of which are expensive.

spending 20 minutes of fun with 2 girls or B) a set of Ping golf clubs that will last 30 years. Or C) a full fly fishing rig that will last 30 years or D) Hunting equipment that will last 30 years

I know you're cherry picking tangible products there, but I get what you're saying. Golf clubs, fishing crap, hunting stuff doesn't interest me at all. What does interest me? Fucking and filming drop dead gorgeous women. So THAT'S what I spend my money on.

who would pick A over all other choices.

Me.

I get the argument, and I've seen both types, but in the end I'd prefer quality over quantity. There is no comparison between the quality of the 400 girls to the 120 girls. In general, no drama, no tracks / bruises / cuts / scabs / rashes / etc. , no pimps waiting to rob you, no shady neighborhoods, etc. With the 400 girls.

Exactly. I've been dumpster diving, too. I'm sick of it. If I could see four $100 cracked out addicts or one $400 stunner, I know what I'm picking.

[Bundy71]

Unless its a famous porn star for a bucket list thing. These girls couldn't make 20 bucks an hour in a real job, them asking 400 for 20 minutes with you is absurd. Its also a big turnoff. So say you make 60 k per year, that's 30 bucks an hour. One of these girls are worth 15 hours of your paycheck? Think about it. Your only spending 20 minutes or so of real fun, and the girl cares NOTHING about you. If she saw you in public she would walk the other way. And it really doesn't matter how much we make. I make much more now than 10 years ago, but I don't pay 4 times as much for oil changes, food, etc. You get what you pay. That's something a salesperson would say. People who pay 400 are they also going to the bar and buying everyone drinks and thinking they have a lot of friends. Another absurd thing is being a sugar daddy. How degrading. The girl pretends to like a guy for an allowance. I know its different from a high prices girl, but there are similarities. They both just scratch an itch. They are completely superficial and neither will ever lead to anything real. That right there makes them not worth anywhere near 400. Here's a thought experiment. (2) 400 vouchers, you get to choose a) spending 20 minutes of fun with 2 girls or B) a set of Ping golf clubs that will last 30 years. Or C) a full fly fishing rig that will last 30 years or D) Hunting equipment that will last 30 years or 800 dollars of anything. Who would honestly pick (A) over all other choices. Again its like going on a real date with a girl-she picks the most expensive drinks and food, wants you to take her shopping after. I think most of us have been here and when this happens its a total turn off no matter what the girl looks like. How low does the girl think we are to pay 400 for her. That's how I look at it and I can't see how others look at it differently. IMO no girl is worth more than 120 for a QV. She can do a 20 minute qv for 120 or work an 8 hour shift bartending to make the same amount. And even at 120 most of these girls are disappointing, even the hot ones.

There are a lot of holes in your theory. First, comparing having a high-end girl for a short time to buying golf clubs is a flawed argument that assumes a finite amount of money where that isn't the case for everyone. Second, you left out volume; if you see 4 120 girls in a month where someone else sees one 400 girl, you've spent more.

I get the argument, and I've seen both types, but in the end I'd prefer quality over quantity. There is no comparison between the quality of the 400 girls to the 120 girls. In general, no drama, no tracks / bruises / cuts / scabs / rashes / etc. , no pimps waiting to rob you, no shady neighborhoods, etc. With the 400 girls.

[Cleveland Report]

Since we don't run in those circles we forget there are some people who have (earn, inherit, invent, whatever) much more money than they know what to do with. I have seen those people. It could very well be your next door neighbor who is worth 10 MM and you would never guess. So to them, for whatever reason, it's worth it. Not in the cards for me or probably for most of us. But, if you've got it enjoy it.

Unless its a famous porn star for a bucket list thing. These girls couldn't make 20 bucks an hour in a real job, them asking 400 for 20 minutes with you is absurd. Its also a big turnoff. So say you make 60 k per year, that's 30 bucks an hour. One of these girls are worth 15 hours of your paycheck? Think about it. Your only spending 20 minutes or so of real fun, and the girl cares NOTHING about you. If she saw you in public she would walk the other way. And it really doesn't matter how much we make. I make much more now than 10 years ago, but I don't pay 4 times as much for oil changes, food, etc. You get what you pay. That's something a salesperson would say. People who pay 400 are they also going to the bar and buying everyone drinks and thinking they have a lot of friends. Another absurd thing is being a sugar daddy. How degrading. The girl pretends to like a guy for an allowance. I know its different from a high prices girl, but there are similarities. They both just scratch an itch. They are completely superficial and neither will ever lead to anything real. That right there makes them not worth anywhere near 400. Here's a thought experiment. (2) 400 vouchers, you get to choose a) spending 20 minutes of fun with 2 girls or B) a set of Ping golf clubs that will last 30 years. Or C) a full fly fishing rig that will last 30 years or D) Hunting equipment that will last 30 years or 800 dollars of anything. Who would honestly pick (A) over all other choices. Again its like going on a real date with a girl-she picks the most expensive drinks and food, wants you to take her shopping after. I think most of us have been here and when this happens its a total turn off no matter what the girl looks like. How low does the girl think we are to pay 400 for her. That's how I look at it and I can't see how others look at it differently. IMO no girl is worth more than 120 for a QV. She can do a 20 minute qv for 120 or work an 8 hour shift bartending to make the same amount. And even at 120 most of these girls are disappointing, even the hot ones.

[SpinnerLover69]

Yeah, I'm with XmasBeagle on this one. Like most things, you get what you pay for. You want a real PSE, you pay for it. I've paid the extra and had the young girls with the flawless bodies. I've bad with pocket change and gotten a quick BBBJ from a SW who needed the money to get her next score. All depends on what you want.

Unless its a famous porn star for a bucket list thing. These girls couldn't make 20 bucks an hour in a real job, them asking 400 for 20 minutes with you is absurd. Its also a big turnoff. So say you make 60 k per year, that's 30 bucks an hour. One of these girls are worth 15 hours of your paycheck? Think about it. Your only spending 20 minutes or so of real fun, and the girl cares NOTHING about you. If she saw you in public she would walk the other way. And it really doesn't matter how much we make. I make much more now than 10 years ago, but I don't pay 4 times as much for oil changes, food, etc. You get what you pay. That's something a salesperson would say. People who pay 400 are they also going to the bar and buying everyone drinks and thinking they have a lot of friends. Another absurd thing is being a sugar daddy. How degrading. The girl pretends to like a guy for an allowance. I know its different from a high prices girl, but there are similarities. They both just scratch an itch. They are completely superficial and neither will ever lead to anything real. That right there makes them not worth anywhere near 400. Here's a thought experiment. (2) 400 vouchers, you get to choose a) spending 20 minutes of fun with 2 girls or B) a set of Ping golf clubs that will last 30 years. Or C) a full fly fishing rig that will last 30 years or D) Hunting equipment that will last 30 years or 800 dollars of anything. Who would honestly pick (A) over all other choices. Again its like going on a real date with a girl-she picks the most expensive drinks and food, wants you to take her shopping after. I think most of us have been here and when this happens its a total turn off no matter what the girl looks like. How low does the girl think we are to pay 400 for her. That's how I look at it and I can't see how others look at it differently. IMO no girl is worth more than 120 for a QV. She can do a 20 minute qv for 120 or work an 8 hour shift bartending to make the same amount. And even at 120 most of these girls are disappointing, even the hot ones.

[In Delaware]

There are definitely $400 and up girls out there. I see plenty of them. Early 20's, absolutely perfect bodies, 10/10, no drugs. BB everything, sometimes including greek, CIP most often available. Filming. No rush. Take directions and suggestions. Come to me instead of me to them. Reliable txters and schedulers.

It's a lot of money to some, not a lot to others. Also, inflation is a thing and so is an old timer trying to buy soda for a nickel. Ohio prices are a thing, too.

You win some, you lose some. It was a loss, close to a draw with eve. I have a UTR $250 girl that checks off everything I discussed above that I give $400 to just because. She stays for hours and I film 70 to 120 GB of footage with her. She should be in LA earning $1000.

Yeah, I'm with XmasBeagle on this one. Like most things, you get what you pay for. You want a real PSE, you pay for it. I've paid the extra and had the young girls with the flawless bodies. I've bad with pocket change and gotten a quick BBBJ from a SW who needed the money to get her next score. All depends on what you want.

[Record Player]

My first thought was this is a total BS post. And several post followed asking for who the girl is in the post. Nothing. I tend to agree with some of the other comments about how to treat a provider. If the girl in your post actually exists then she sounds like someone I would have had way more fun with. I've never had a provider say "Hey, where are you going? Don't leave me yet, I want more". Bottom line if you treat someone like $hit you are going to be treated like $hit in return. Believe it that I've spoken with girls that use their right to pick and chose same as we do. They have their own list of "one and done" and won't ever accept a repeat from certain mongers.

I agree, she doesn't exist. I had asked who she was couple days ago. Sounded like someone I could have allot of fun with as a regular. I love to make a woman feel as good as me. Guarantees a great time and as a regular usually no more clock watching.

[JackRogers]

My first thought was this is a total BS post. And several post followed asking for who the girl is in the post. Nothing. I tend to agree with some of the other comments about how to treat a provider. If the girl in your post actually exists then she sounds like someone I would have had way more fun with. I've never had a provider say "Hey, where are you going? Don't leave me yet, I want more". Bottom line if you treat someone like $hit you are going to be treated like $hit in return. Believe it that I've spoken with girls that use their right to pick and chose same as we do. They have their own list of "one and done" and won't ever accept a repeat from certain mongers.

I agree that we should not treat them like cum dumps but at the end of the day that is what they are. Did I mean to hurt her feelings, no not at all. But I provided a fee I expect a service I pay for. I will say she was fairly stoned.

If I was actual a total dick, I would tell you her name so you all could make fun of her, I think she is newer to the business. I never said she she "don't leave me" or "I want more" she felt that she gave me some good head and she wanted her pussy licked. I could only image t dicks in that thing, nope only blowjobs for me. I am very upfront with these girls, they need to either agree or say no. When they way yes, cum dump it is. Period.

[Slow Roller]

My first thought was this is a total BS post. And several post followed asking for who the girl is in the post. Nothing. I tend to agree with some of the other comments about how to treat a provider. If the girl in your post actually exists then she sounds like someone I would have had way more fun with. I've never had a provider say "Hey, where are you going? Don't leave me yet, I want more". Bottom line if you treat someone like $hit you are going to be treated like $hit in return. Believe it that I've spoken with girls that use their right to pick and chose same as we do. They have their own list of "one and done" and won't ever accept a repeat from certain mongers.

Now way this girl even exist.