Drama 101 in Cleveland

**ZigBang1** · 05-07-20 08:16

My first thought was this is a total BS post. And several post followed asking for who the girl is in the post. Nothing. I tend to agree with some of the other comments about how to treat a provider. If the girl in your post actually exists then she sounds like someone I would have had way more fun with. I've never had a provider say "Hey, where are you going? Don't leave me yet, I want more". Bottom line if you treat someone like $hit you are going to be treated like $hit in return. Believe it that I've spoken with girls that use their right to pick and chose same as we do. They have their own list of "one and done" and won't ever accept a repeat from certain mongers.

Originally Posted by JackRogers [View Original Post]

Visited a well reviewed provider a couple months back, before the Corona! It is rare for me to want anything but good head with swallow. Occasionally I will hit it from the back or get some anal, but she has to be clean and at least appear safe.

This provider wanted to screw but I explained that I only wanted oral. She asked me if I eat pussy, yes I said but not today. After I shot my load, I started getting dressed and she got pissed and said "what about me"? "Aren't you going to return the favor?

I explained that I am paying her to give me good head, swallow my load and occasionally bend over. That as a paying customer I only want what I want. At the end of the day we all know what we are paying for.

She started crying and said "I am not a *****". I just smiled and left.

Am I wrong in only wanting what I want??

**Tom Mubbles** · 03-18-20 19:14

Originally Posted by ZigBang1 [View Original Post]

I'm guessing most of us have made the same kind of mistake at least once.

I came close twice but never went thru with it and in both cases they showed their inner ***** before we got hitched and in one case she was nice enough to get fat BEFORE she had me trapped lmao. Of course, the fact that the one that got fat also became a self identified inter-sectional feminist (who believed that EVERY man should pay alimony regardless of income disparity for LIFE!) towards the end of our relationship was reason enough to run away screaming.

Honestly I know of several happy couples but they are few and far between. I'd love to find the one but it's not worth playing the financial Russian roulette.

**Cheech1** · 03-18-20 08:31

The thing is, society, religion and government have all adopted rules that, unbeknownst to most of us, turn us into slaves if we marry and have kids. And even if we are married and have no kids if we are married long enough. It is the attempt to control men thru access to sex, which I'm sure I have posted about before. If you want to protect yourself, you have to really understand the laws and have a good lawyer to set up a trust for yourself that exists before you marry to protect your assets from predation if the marriage goes sour, especially if you have kids. After you marry, for the most part everything you create will be considered to be half hers. If you have kids, the domestic relations gestapo, usually these days a feminist woman, will drag every dime you create that is not protected in some way to "calculate" how much child support you owe. And remember, you have no control on how that money is spent. As long as she can show the kids have a roof over their heads, clothing and meals, she can spend the rest in the casino if she wants to. And if you give the judge as a reason for divorce that the hot 20 something woman you married has turned into a 30 something 350 lb. Blob of fat that not only keeps a dirty house but that you wouldn't fuck with the judge's strap-on, she'll hang your ass from the nearest streetlight.

Its just a bad situation. In my case, I don't even want to go into it. Lets just say my youngest is 29, and my child support is almost paid off.

Cheech.

**HungryEye** · 03-17-20 22:51

Looks like a lot of us have been there done that. I love living single again. And what I spend today is much less then what I paid keeping a wife. Not counting the BS that comes with the wife.

H.

**ZigBang1** · 03-17-20 16:28

I'm guessing most of us have made the same kind of mistake at least once.

Originally Posted by AlSmits346 [View Original Post]

Never been happier since I left my wife. Not just sexually either but in every aspect of life. Best thing I ever did.

**Ampguider** · 03-17-20 15:03

Originally Posted by AlSmits346 [View Original Post]

Never been happier since I left my wife. Not just sexually either but in every aspect of life. Best thing I ever did.

Amen brother.

**AlSmits346** · 03-17-20 14:08

Originally Posted by Cheech1 [View Original Post]

I've seen a few posts about the cost of the hobby. I think Hungry a few posts mentioned he's laying out over 10 K a year to play.

Well, to my way of thinking, that's not too bad. I'm now 62, I was married for 8 years and I have 3 kids. They are all grown now and I don't hear from then unless they want something, for the most part. I'm going to tell you guys something resulting from my own thought, experience, and reading.

We are men. We need sex as a part of our biological foundation. That's why we go out looking for pussy. Now, if you look at the way convention would have it, we should go out, find a woman, woo her at a cost of thousands of dollars in time and dates like dinners, shows, movies, and what all. Hey, start adding up a really good meal at a fancy steakhouse, drinks, maybe a movie or show. You're talking a couple hundred at least, depending on what city you are in.

And then maybe you get some action. Then you maybe finally find one and get married and have kids, and you hope, yes, hope, that you get the sex you need. And you hope that you not only get the sex you need, but that you get the sex you desire. BJs, get a little rimming, get a little anal, go down on a sweet shaved pussy. I mean, you already gave up your biological need for variety, right?

So, my experience is that you don't get any of that. And sex is less frequent, much less getting a great blowjob. And, What I see is these women, once the bait was successful and the catch made, let the bait go and become fat and lazy. They become something you don't want to have sex with. I am seeing this happen even as I write this post to a couple guys I know.

And how much are you going to spend for this merry go round? 10K a year? Ha! Keep going my fellow hobbyists. Much more. And not only that, you spend more, get less, and lose your freedom to boot. And I didn't even start on what happens if you have kids. You become not much more than a machine generating money to support 3 or 4 other people, then you try to save a little, retire and die.

Fuck that. If I knew when I was 20 what I know now, I would never have gotten married or had kids intentionally. I would have stuck with the hobby and today I would be a wealthy man as well as not having done time at that.

Its much more economical as well as more satisfying to pay to play directly rather than indirectly.

Cheech

Never been happier since I left my wife. Not just sexually either but in every aspect of life. Best thing I ever did.

**HungryEye** · 03-17-20 08:39

Each year on St Pats day I take off work, get drunk and do as many women as possible. This year the virus BS and the government closing bars and calling to stay in groups of less than ten will make it much more difficult to carry on. To do my part I've committed myself to no more than a threesome today and a possible make up day in the near future.

Stay safe,

H.

**Cheech1** · 03-16-20 08:56

Maybe you could talk her into swinging. Or give her a good spanking, LOL.

Cheech.

**Tsupp** · 03-15-20 18:25

Originally Posted by Cheech1 [View Original Post]

They tried to warn me too. I was too smart to listen.

Cheech.

Geez. Thought I was the only one. I told them they were all nuts. Mine was a freak in the sheets, or wherever we happen to be, until the honeymoon. She would fuck or suck anywhere anytime and now we barely kiss. I chased it for years until I gave up. How many times do I need to stick my head in that freezing bucket of ice bobbing for an "apple" until I stop being a moron that thinks maybe this time she'll be into it, LOL. I never even considered this "lifestyle" until the wife snuck off the reservation to get a little dirty damp and deep (got to throw that in for the BB fans). Wish I would have known. Can't count how many times I ignored advances because of the ring. Oh well.

**Cheech1** · 03-15-20 17:27

They tried to warn me too. I was too smart to listen.

Cheech.

**Polishboy** · 03-15-20 13:07

Originally Posted by Cheech1 [View Original Post]

I've seen a few posts about the cost of the hobby. I think Hungry a few posts mentioned he's laying out over 10 K a year to play.

Well, to my way of thinking, that's not too bad. I'm now 62, I was married for 8 years and I have 3 kids. They are all grown now and I don't hear from then unless they want something, for the most part. I'm going to tell you guys something resulting from my own thought, experience, and reading.

We are men. We need sex as a part of our biological foundation. That's why we go out looking for pussy. Now, if you look at the way convention would have it, we should go out, find a woman, woo her at a cost of thousands of dollars in time and dates like dinners, shows, movies, and what all. Hey, start adding up a really good meal at a fancy steakhouse, drinks, maybe a movie or show. You're talking a couple hundred at least, depending on what city you are in.

And then maybe you get some action. Then you maybe finally find one and get married and have kids, and you hope, yes, hope, that you get the sex you need. And you hope that you not only get the sex you need, but that you get the sex you desire. BJs, get a little rimming, get a little anal, go down on a sweet shaved pussy. I mean, you already gave up your biological need for variety, right?

So, my experience is that you don't get any of that. And sex is less frequent, much less getting a great blowjob. And, What I see is these women, once the bait was successful and the catch made, let the bait go and become fat and lazy. They become something you don't want to have sex with. I am seeing this happen even as I write this post to a couple guys I know.

And how much are you going to spend for this merry go round? 10K a year? Ha! Keep going my fellow hobbyists. Much more. And not only that, you spend more, get less, and lose your freedom to boot. And I didn't even start on what happens if you have kids. You become not much more than a machine generating money to support 3 or 4 other people, then you try to save a little, retire and die.

Fuck that. If I knew when I was 20 what I know now, I would never have gotten married or had kids intentionally. I would have stuck with the hobby and today I would be a wealthy man as well as not having done time at that.

Its much more economical as well as more satisfying to pay to play directly rather than indirectly.

Cheech

So married 35 yrs, wife was a **** before wedding cake, then the fucking stopped, then the BJ, and now the only sex we have is hallway sex when we tell each other Fuck you! If I get caught in the hobby she will take a whole lot more than $10 grand a year. Like Cheech I wish I new 35 years ago, been better off single. Then again when you are young, who listens to an old man, they tried to warn me!

**Bards Tale** · 03-15-20 11:34

Yep, the only difference in sex that you pay for and sex that is free is that the sex you pay for is usually cheaper.

**Cheech1** · 03-15-20 10:42

I've seen a few posts about the cost of the hobby. I think Hungry a few posts mentioned he's laying out over 10 K a year to play.

Well, to my way of thinking, that's not too bad. I'm now 62, I was married for 8 years and I have 3 kids. They are all grown now and I don't hear from then unless they want something, for the most part. I'm going to tell you guys something resulting from my own thought, experience, and reading.

We are men. We need sex as a part of our biological foundation. That's why we go out looking for pussy. Now, if you look at the way convention would have it, we should go out, find a woman, woo her at a cost of thousands of dollars in time and dates like dinners, shows, movies, and what all. Hey, start adding up a really good meal at a fancy steakhouse, drinks, maybe a movie or show. You're talking a couple hundred at least, depending on what city you are in.

And then maybe you get some action. Then you maybe finally find one and get married and have kids, and you hope, yes, hope, that you get the sex you need. And you hope that you not only get the sex you need, but that you get the sex you desire. BJs, get a little rimming, get a little anal, go down on a sweet shaved pussy. I mean, you already gave up your biological need for variety, right?

So, my experience is that you don't get any of that. And sex is less frequent, much less getting a great blowjob. And, What I see is these women, once the bait was successful and the catch made, let the bait go and become fat and lazy. They become something you don't want to have sex with. I am seeing this happen even as I write this post to a couple guys I know.

And how much are you going to spend for this merry go round? 10K a year? Ha! Keep going my fellow hobbyists. Much more. And not only that, you spend more, get less, and lose your freedom to boot. And I didn't even start on what happens if you have kids. You become not much more than a machine generating money to support 3 or 4 other people, then you try to save a little, retire and die.

Fuck that. If I knew when I was 20 what I know now, I would never have gotten married or had kids intentionally. I would have stuck with the hobby and today I would be a wealthy man as well as not having done time at that.

Its much more economical as well as more satisfying to pay to play directly rather than indirectly.

Cheech

**PainWint** · 03-14-20 09:28

Originally Posted by MrSmith1969 [View Original Post]

And the market economy. Someone smarter than me check this, as supply increases aka crappy hourly workers and others that will be first to feel the impact due to lack of resources, aka girls for us to see. Pricing should decrease exponentially for all because demand (us monger types) are on the sidelines stacking cash from jobs that care about us.

Noobs will enter the marketplace, seeing lower and lower prices, will start quoting under $ for an hour.

Then I can have big fun with stacks for days!

Sounds good, right?

I agree 100%.

I was thinking the same in that there will likely be new talent available with the hourly workers being impacted. I feel like prices should be going down.

Thinking further about impacts. I am not a massage parlor guy but I have to think the batch of new girls at the AMP is no longer the exciting thing it used to be.

A new bunch of Asian ladies traveling in from what province? F that!