Massage Parlor Reports

[Jokester1]

Interesting to note that Jupiter newspaper says reason for raid that got Kraft arrested was the fact that AMTs were living there. If so then how did LEO install the camera without being seen. They reasoned that since they lived there they must be victims. There is more to this story. Were the cameras watching the girls also and for how long. There has to be privacy issues here or the girls were in on it. Terrible thought.

They live in the spas for several reasons, among them:

1. It's cheaper than renting an outside place. Most want to amass as much money as quickly as possible so they can retire.

2. It's difficult to rent a decent place if you have income you can't put down on the application form for an apartment. And even if you do put it down, you don't have any proof of that income.

3. With limited English, it's a hassle to rent a place, arrange utilities, etc. , etc. Not to mention maintaining the place when you are on duty 13 or 14 hours a day.

4. Wouldn't get much sleep if you have to go back and forth from an outside residence to your workplace when you are on duty from 9 AM or 10 AM to 11 PM.

5. Have to have transportation to your outside residence--they don't want to waste money on a car; it's hard for them to get a driving license; taxis and uber would be an additional expense; and walking "home" late at night might not be very safe.

[FartingCows]

While we'd all like to think the U.S. Constitution guarantees our right to privacy in any and all circumstances, the legal system is littered with loopholes and justifications to violate that privacy. It's a simple matter of 1.) Probable Cause (real or contrived); 2.) Petition for Warrant; 3.) Friendly or sympathetic judge (what judge is going to argue against SEX SLAVERY); 4.) Warrant issued; 5.) Secret surveillance occurs; 6.) BANG! Arrests are made!

This is how prosecutors get wire-taps or camera surveillance for mobsters, terrorists, or even the vilest of all criminals, >gasp< people in pursuit of orgasms!

True, the Constitution doesn't even contain the word privacy. However, officers have to exhaust all practical means before they can get a warrant like this. You can easily research how a string of AMPs from Tallahassee to Naples were taken down without the use of a warrant to place camera back in 2017. Something like 8 out of 19 have pled guilty. In other words, there were other means to accomplish the goal with getting the warrant. That warrant won't stand up in a suppression. Billionaires can afford really smart attorneys.

[NeoRB25]

Anyone been to KMS the past couple weeks since everything went down? Are they open?

I drove by KMS a little after 6 pm today. Open sign was on and had the front door propped open as looked like they were doing a little cleaning.

[PFish1]

Has anybody visited a AMP in the Casselberry Altamonte or lake Mary since all the issues going on. If so where. If not does anybody know of a independent that does massages at a reasonable rate?

Thanks be safe.

I visited Asahi the other day. Nothing new to report than it was business as usual.

[Jocko45]

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[Jocko45]

Has anybody visited a AMP in the Casselberry Altamonte or lake Mary since all the issues going on. If so where. If not does anybody know of a independent that does massages at a reasonable rate?

Thanks be safe.

In Altamonte on 426 try Magic immediately on the left after crossing over 4 if you were northbound on 4. Turn into the first L shaped strip center on the south side of 426. Its at the far west leg of the center.

[BigStudOrl]

With the whole scare going on I had to test the waters at a non FS place. Hit up my tried and true original spot. I've been a regular here for close to 7 years. Called for my fave Cici. Excellent massage and traditional "special" ending for us magic regulars. Remember no FS ever. It was quiet however a monger was their when I arrived and another arrived during the hour. Stay safe fellas.

[Doug Stamper]

Interesting to note that Jupiter newspaper says reason for raid that got Kraft arrested was the fact that AMTs were living there. If so then how did LEO install the camera without being seen. They reasoned that since they lived there they must be victims. There is more to this story. Were the cameras watching the girls also and for how long. There has to be privacy issues here or the girls were in on it. Terrible thought.

The police created a fake bomb scare to vacate the building for several hours while they installed the cameras.

https://www.salemnews.com/news/local...91cd88107.html

[UtahLegend]

Video surveillance is 100% legal when audio is involved it becomes a crime aka Wire Tapping.

While we'd all like to think the U.S. Constitution guarantees our right to privacy in any and all circumstances, the legal system is littered with loopholes and justifications to violate that privacy. It's a simple matter of 1.) Probable Cause (real or contrived); 2.) Petition for Warrant; 3.) Friendly or sympathetic judge (what judge is going to argue against SEX SLAVERY); 4.) Warrant issued; 5.) Secret surveillance occurs; 6.) BANG! Arrests are made!

This is how prosecutors get wire-taps or camera surveillance for mobsters, terrorists, or even the vilest of all criminals, >gasp< people in pursuit of orgasms!

[MrBill469]

There has to be privacy issues here or the girls were in on it. Terrible thought.

While we'd all like to think the U.S. Constitution guarantees our right to privacy in any and all circumstances, the legal system is littered with loopholes and justifications to violate that privacy. It's a simple matter of 1.) Probable Cause (real or contrived); 2.) Petition for Warrant; 3.) Friendly or sympathetic judge (what judge is going to argue against SEX SLAVERY); 4.) Warrant issued; 5.) Secret surveillance occurs; 6.) BANG! Arrests are made!

This is how prosecutors get wire-taps or camera surveillance for mobsters, terrorists, or even the vilest of all criminals, >gasp< people in pursuit of orgasms!

[Indian River]

Interesting to note that Jupiter newspaper says reason for raid that got Kraft arrested was the fact that AMTs were living there. If so then how did LEO install the camera without being seen. They reasoned that since they lived there they must be victims. There is more to this story. Were the cameras watching the girls also and for how long. There has to be privacy issues here or the girls were in on it. Terrible thought.

[RobertJdn]

Has anybody visited a AMP in the Casselberry Altamonte or lake Mary since all the issues going on. If so where. If not does anybody know of a independent that does massages at a reasonable rate?

Thanks be safe.

I haven't been into any of them but all the ones I see driving up 17-92 from Fern Park up to Lake Mary say they're open. I pass at least 4 along that drive, the most well known is natural.

[HotRocks]

Gone pretty quiet here is everyone good? No contact from the uncles for anyone so far?

I would imagine that if anyone heard from thier uncle, they would be very afraid to post it. So not hearing is not always a good sign. I do agree that some of these places are closed for security checks and camera proofing. At least I hope that is what they are doing.

[Hamilton4]

All of the closures could also be owners deciding to take a few days to tear their buildings apart and make sure they don't have any law enforcement cameras in there. That is what I would do.

You make a great point, I hadn't thought of that and you're right I suppose I would do the same thing if I were one of the owners.

[Joeblow300]

All of the closures could also be owners deciding to take a few days to tear their buildings apart and make sure they don't have any law enforcement cameras in there. That is what I would do.

With all these local AMP's closing and then reopening it definitely raises some internal questions for me. I drove by GG twice on Sunday and there were no cars in the parking lot and then they're suddenly closed on Monday for water damage? Sorry that doesn't smell right to me. Same thing with Tokyo. They're renovating? In all my years of enjoying this hobby I've never come across anything like this. Not to mention that CB is reopening it doors shortly. They have a Grand Opening Coming Soon sign hanging on the old CB sign. Not trying to create fear here but I'm concerned that LEO could be setting up surveillance for an Orange County sting. I don't know this to be accurate nor have I heard this from any fellow Mongers just something for us to think about. As for me I won't be going to any those locations once the reopen their doors. Curious what some of you fellow Mongers think.

Be smart and safe!