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[AssMann45]

Hey All,

Set something up with Nikky for tonight. Spot was hotel on 28th and Ivanrest. I haven't seen her in a long time, so curiousty got the best of me. After communicating with her via text to which room to go, I kind of scope out the place cause I thought her incall selection was odd since I used to see her near by at her old appartment off 28th and Paririe area.

So after seeing random black guy standing around the room. I haved parked across the way to see what was going on just cause I don't think tbat place is safe. Should have went with spidey senses and took off, but didn't. So I wait a little while longer and decide to go with it. HUGE MISTAKEN!! I get in, she has lost lots of weight probably due to candy of some sort. She used to be built the way I like them, with a little meat of their bones. She locks the doors and gives a hug. I tell her I have to use the restroom, she nervous about me using it and gives me an excuse, right then and there I should have gentley moved her and left. But the bathroom door opens up and she tells me this his a STING. So I stayed calm, the black dude was dressed in all black gear, and really didn't try to apprehend me or anything. I'm a bigger guy at 6"5, 280 lbs. And more than can handle myself against anyone. I tell them I want no trouble, she acting wierd. I thought maybe just trying to rob me, but I think he taught twice about it due tp my size. So I leave agreed upon donation on the table and leave without anyone chasing me, or again trying to apprehend me. Then I get a weird text from.

Her yelling at me in the text tell me that I fucked her over, etc. I quickly delete all text etc from my burner phone and texting app that I was using to communicate with her. She used to be lots of fun and used to see her frequently. Anyway Stay the fuck away from her if you used to see her in the past. I'll be tossing my burner phone away and will be getting a new one.

Do you guys think this was a sting with trying to get any info from me or them not apprehending me? Or do you think I was plain robbed?? This is the 1st time this has EVER happened to me. Anyone else ever get caught in a sting without being apprehended?? Curious is all.

BE SAFE OUT THERE!! BELOW ARE LINKS OF NIKKI.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/nicky-es...-rapids-279400

https://www.adultlook.com/p/2977377

We need to always report things like this on the board to ensure saftey for all of us. Feel free to PM for any info on tonight or if they ever been caught in a sting before. I think I was just robbed, but don't know for sure.

Let me know if anyone has seen Nikky in the past and experienced this. Would be greatly appreciated.

[Benz1]

What does she look like? Any face pictures?

Jamie is willing to show us her curves, I'm impressed by any women willing to show her real pics. No touchups.

No face pics to be posted with the body pics, She might send a face pic, if you ask politely.
I think this is what we're looking for, The Truth. No surprises from Jamin Jamie. She usually does car dates so the back of her head will be the most important view.
She swallows every drop with pride! Budget Minded Monger rate of 30 for a BBBJws
Jamin Jamie is a utr, pick on the west side for car dates, Password required through Benz1

[Reacher2215]

Well worth my drive. Very sweet lady great conversation and smelt good. Thanks Benz.

What does she look like? Any face pictures?

[Member #6094]

Jamin Jamie wants another chance to lick our stick.

Hopefully She doesn't have transportation issues any more. West side pick up, she's happy to swallow the whole thing and anything you spray on her tonsils too.

Her rate is just what the budget minded monger is looking for.

Average looks with good skills.

Car date. Bbbjws for 30 bucks.

She likes to use passwords for her safety and sanity.

PM me at Benz1.

Well worth my drive. Very sweet lady great conversation and smelt good. Thanks Benz.

[Benz1]

Tonight or next few nights?

Becca2222 lives in Ionia, car dates are available in Ionia. She gets a room in GR randomly when she feels there's enough interest.

Your answer is catch her when you can.

[OliverTwist501]

Tonight or next few nights?

Becca2222 is still in GR. She has Budget minded Monger Rates Right Now.

She's offering better deals to senior members.

50 ss. (senior member rate 40), 80 HHR (SMR 70), 120 hr (SMR 100).

Yes, it's that hotel.

If you are a senior member you need to contact her through this forum. Contact Becca2222.

If you can't reach her, you can get a password through Benz1.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...o/047409334504

[Benz1]

Becca2222 is still in GR. She has Budget minded Monger Rates Right Now.

She's offering better deals to senior members.

50 ss. (senior member rate 40), 80 HHR (SMR 70), 120 hr (SMR 100).

Yes, it's that hotel.

If you are a senior member you need to contact her through this forum. Contact Becca2222.

If you can't reach her, you can get a password through Benz1.

http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com...o/047409334504

[Benz1]

Jamin Jamie wants another chance to lick our stick.

Hopefully She doesn't have transportation issues any more. West side pick up, she's happy to swallow the whole thing and anything you spray on her tonsils too.

Her rate is just what the budget minded monger is looking for.

Average looks with good skills.

Car date. Bbbjws for 30 bucks.

She likes to use passwords for her safety and sanity.

PM me at Benz1.

[HighwayStr]

First, supply & demand factors into things, but the problem is, the market is wonky -- ladies getting false impressions about "What I Deserve" and "What Everyone's Getting". You don't see that with blue-ray players or 65-inch TVs. In this market, you have gals believing it's not out of this world for herself to demand $200 to take her top off if she has nice breasts for her hhr massage, and scoffs at another gal giving a topless BBBJ for an $80 tip on a hhr massage who is just as good looking as her. We don't see this walking into ABC Warehouse vs Best Buy when shopping around for entertainment devices. This is a more UTR market, self-esteem issues can play a role in how far they're willing to go for how much, how they think they look, how much the other gals actually Are getting, etc.

On the flip side (no pun intended), you have newbie or rarely-chime-in guys who are horny throwing out Way too much from time to time. Gals will end up believing That is more along the lines of what they Should get, thus think a guy's cheap (thus, she feeling cheap), if he doesn't measure up to it. What a gal needs to understand is the wonkiness of the market. It's a different kind of thing. You'll get guys throwing higher $ than the market would otherwise expect; kind of like when waitressing, you could get some guy leaving a 40% tip where she didn't do anything out of the standard ordinary. Be grateful, but keep your eyes set correctly: If you want more money day to day, put everything in perspective. You'll get more guys, more repeats, less negative reviews if you Don't Expect or demand what the occasional Naive Ned will do or is willing to do on even a non-pressure up-sell. Realize that Naive Ned is More than it's worth (yay, lucky), and don't rely on that at all. No more than a waitress wanting those certain guys throwing down way too high a tip.

I think the Understanding of a baseline rate that understood thru the industry and what the guys preach would be good. Don't know how effective that'd actually be, and how much that'd soak in. But at least something where if a gal is going to want more, it's not a "I Deserve" mentality but "Hey, I can get these rates, sooo. ," and understands YMMV depending on the day of the week or how the industry is doing during that time frame. But obviously a gal can be on the notably Chubby side and be "below par" on the price scale, and another gal who's real cute can be "above par" on the price scale. And a new girl can be below it a bit and raise it once she's got some good reviews.

But as long as there's an understood "par" level on what's expected to compare high / low to -- it'll help bring stability to everyone's expectations. But for that to happen, it's not just the girls understanding, but the readers here to, as well. I guess the par / baseline would be the mid-range of what to expect on a gal. Massages are going to be more than an escort, of course.

ESCORT: SS-$90; HHR-$120; HR-$150 (Higher or Lower depending on her looks, GFE-level, you're a newbie vs reg; etc).

MASSAGE TIP (more complicated):

HHR / HR: $20 / $40 **Base; standard HJ HE.

TOPLESS: +$10-$20 **During HE only, or thru most of massage? Newbie or reg? Hhr or hr?

FULL NUDE: +$10-$20 **During HE only, or thru most of massage? Newbie or reg? Hhr or hr?

That's roughly what I see that'd fit into the "level" of the market. Which has gone up recently, but with backpage & craigs leaving + economy good, I can understand why.

Prevailing trend seems to be escorts are pushing for $200-HR.

[Choose]

First, supply & demand factors into things, but the problem is, the market is wonky -- ladies getting false impressions about "What I Deserve" and "What Everyone's Getting". You don't see that with blue-ray players or 65-inch TVs. In this market, you have gals believing it's not out of this world for herself to demand $200 to take her top off if she has nice breasts for her hhr massage, and scoffs at another gal giving a topless BBBJ for an $80 tip on a hhr massage who is just as good looking as her. We don't see this walking into ABC Warehouse vs Best Buy when shopping around for entertainment devices. This is a more UTR market, self-esteem issues can play a role in how far they're willing to go for how much, how they think they look, how much the other gals actually Are getting, etc.

On the flip side (no pun intended), you have newbie or rarely-chime-in guys who are horny throwing out Way too much from time to time. Gals will end up believing That is more along the lines of what they Should get, thus think a guy's cheap (thus, she feeling cheap), if he doesn't measure up to it. What a gal needs to understand is the wonkiness of the market. It's a different kind of thing. You'll get guys throwing higher $ than the market would otherwise expect; kind of like when waitressing, you could get some guy leaving a 40% tip where she didn't do anything out of the standard ordinary. Be grateful, but keep your eyes set correctly: If you want more money day to day, put everything in perspective. You'll get more guys, more repeats, less negative reviews if you Don't Expect or demand what the occasional Naive Ned will do or is willing to do on even a non-pressure up-sell. Realize that Naive Ned is More than it's worth (yay, lucky), and don't rely on that at all. No more than a waitress wanting those certain guys throwing down way too high a tip.

I think the Understanding of a baseline rate that understood thru the industry and what the guys preach would be good. Don't know how effective that'd actually be, and how much that'd soak in. But at least something where if a gal is going to want more, it's not a "I Deserve" mentality but "Hey, I can get these rates, sooo. ," and understands YMMV depending on the day of the week or how the industry is doing during that time frame. But obviously a gal can be on the notably Chubby side and be "below par" on the price scale, and another gal who's real cute can be "above par" on the price scale. And a new girl can be below it a bit and raise it once she's got some good reviews.

But as long as there's an understood "par" level on what's expected to compare high / low to -- it'll help bring stability to everyone's expectations. But for that to happen, it's not just the girls understanding, but the readers here to, as well. I guess the par / baseline would be the mid-range of what to expect on a gal. Massages are going to be more than an escort, of course.

ESCORT: SS-$90; HHR-$120; HR-$150 (Higher or Lower depending on her looks, GFE-level, you're a newbie vs reg; etc).

MASSAGE TIP (more complicated):

HHR / HR: $20 / $40 **Base; standard HJ HE.

TOPLESS: +$10-$20 **During HE only, or thru most of massage? Newbie or reg? Hhr or hr?

FULL NUDE: +$10-$20 **During HE only, or thru most of massage? Newbie or reg? Hhr or hr?

That's roughly what I see that'd fit into the "level" of the market. Which has gone up recently, but with backpage & craigs leaving + economy good, I can understand why.

Wow! You've put some thought into this and laid it out nicely.

From my years (mid 2000's til now) of experience I would say you are spot on. However, I can only speak for the massage side of things. I don't monger into the SW or Ladies of the Night. Just a preference nothing more.

Anyway, well done.

[Charlie441]

First, supply & demand factors into things, but the problem is, the market is wonky -- ladies getting false impressions about "What I Deserve" and "What Everyone's Getting". You don't see that with blue-ray players or 65-inch TVs. In this market, you have gals believing it's not out of this world for herself to demand $200 to take her top off if she has nice breasts for her hhr massage, and scoffs at another gal giving a topless BBBJ for an $80 tip on a hhr massage who is just as good looking as her. We don't see this walking into ABC Warehouse vs Best Buy when shopping around for entertainment devices. This is a more UTR market, self-esteem issues can play a role in how far they're willing to go for how much, how they think they look, how much the other gals actually Are getting, etc.

On the flip side (no pun intended), you have newbie or rarely-chime-in guys who are horny throwing out Way too much from time to time. Gals will end up believing That is more along the lines of what they Should get, thus think a guy's cheap (thus, she feeling cheap), if he doesn't measure up to it. What a gal needs to understand is the wonkiness of the market. It's a different kind of thing. You'll get guys throwing higher $ than the market would otherwise expect; kind of like when waitressing, you could get some guy leaving a 40% tip where she didn't do anything out of the standard ordinary. Be grateful, but keep your eyes set correctly: If you want more money day to day, put everything in perspective. You'll get more guys, more repeats, less negative reviews if you Don't Expect or demand what the occasional Naive Ned will do or is willing to do on even a non-pressure up-sell. Realize that Naive Ned is More than it's worth (yay, lucky), and don't rely on that at all. No more than a waitress wanting those certain guys throwing down way too high a tip.

I think the Understanding of a baseline rate that understood thru the industry and what the guys preach would be good. Don't know how effective that'd actually be, and how much that'd soak in. But at least something where if a gal is going to want more, it's not a "I Deserve" mentality but "Hey, I can get these rates, sooo. ," and understands YMMV depending on the day of the week or how the industry is doing during that time frame. But obviously a gal can be on the notably Chubby side and be "below par" on the price scale, and another gal who's real cute can be "above par" on the price scale. And a new girl can be below it a bit and raise it once she's got some good reviews.

But as long as there's an understood "par" level on what's expected to compare high / low to -- it'll help bring stability to everyone's expectations. But for that to happen, it's not just the girls understanding, but the readers here to, as well. I guess the par / baseline would be the mid-range of what to expect on a gal. Massages are going to be more than an escort, of course.

ESCORT: SS-$90; HHR-$120; HR-$150 (Higher or Lower depending on her looks, GFE-level, you're a newbie vs reg; etc).

MASSAGE TIP (more complicated):

HHR / HR: $20 / $40 **Base; standard HJ HE.

TOPLESS: +$10-$20 **During HE only, or thru most of massage? Newbie or reg? Hhr or hr?

FULL NUDE: +$10-$20 **During HE only, or thru most of massage? Newbie or reg? Hhr or hr?

That's roughly what I see that'd fit into the "level" of the market. Which has gone up recently, but with backpage & craigs leaving + economy good, I can understand why.

[Member #6094]

I must be missing somthing what sites or what are you using to find willing participants? Please and thanks in advance.

A good rule of thumb is 2.00-2. 50 per minute which translates to 60-75 for a half hour. Hours should be no more than 120-150, with 150 being reserved for really full menu and hot body, pretty face including msog and maybe even Greek. Sorry but any girl that thinks she should be getting more than 150 per hour is simply exhibiting GPS.

[Love The Lips]

I agree with this pricing. This is about what I pay at most. I've been able to see some for even 60 for hhr and $. For hr. Of course there are gals that I've paid $. For hhr and $. 50 for hr. Some times extra donation is required for trips to greece.

A good rule of thumb is 2.00-2. 50 per minute which translates to 60-75 for a half hour. Hours should be no more than 120-150, with 150 being reserved for really full menu and hot body, pretty face including msog and maybe even Greek. Sorry but any girl that thinks she should be getting more than 150 per hour is simply exhibiting GPS.

[AssMann45]

I'm waiting for Charlie441 to chime in here. Whatever he comes up with is still relative to service and without a string of good reviews her rate should stay at the starter rate until she gets (?) how many good reviews?

We will have to explain, you are new this is what I'm willing to pay? When you get 5 consistent good reviews we will give you a little raise.
This could be interesting if all of us agree to call the same girl using the same line on negotiations, If she does not fold we have to walk away or it won't work.

Nose Jelly is right, put them in the kiosk and end negotiations.
When she agrees we can put her in the Kiosk, letting everyone else know that she is price friendly and willing to work for her money. That would be a big bonus for her and us. BTW I've been doing these negotiations for a long time, occasionally passing the savings to Frenz of Benz. We will be creating a list all together instead of individually.

I'll start with Becca and a bonus pic for everyone. BBBJ/ ws Short stay 50, hhr 80 hr 120 Becca is number 1 in the kiosk

I agree with this pricing. This is about what I pay at most. I've been able to see some for even 60 for hhr and $. For hr. Of course there are gals that I've paid $. For hhr and $. 50 for hr. Some times extra donation is required for trips to greece.

[Benz1]

What should the universal rates become? What could be better than striking is to keep a consistent amount on the table to get certain providers in line. Clearly services provided and performance will vary between girls.

60 ss100 hhr150 hr?

There are exceptions to this, Jane in holland, most MPs, Kandi, others. But what should the rule be? I'm not sure if the effort will actually push costs to a standard rate because there will always be people negotiating for less and others willing to pay more.

I'm waiting for Charlie441 to chime in here. Whatever he comes up with is still relative to service and without a string of good reviews her rate should stay at the starter rate until she gets (?) how many good reviews?

We will have to explain, you are new this is what I'm willing to pay? When you get 5 consistent good reviews we will give you a little raise.
This could be interesting if all of us agree to call the same girl using the same line on negotiations, If she does not fold we have to walk away or it won't work.

Nose Jelly is right, put them in the kiosk and end negotiations.
When she agrees we can put her in the Kiosk, letting everyone else know that she is price friendly and willing to work for her money. That would be a big bonus for her and us. BTW I've been doing these negotiations for a long time, occasionally passing the savings to Frenz of Benz. We will be creating a list all together instead of individually.

I'll start with Becca and a bonus pic for everyone. BBBJ/ ws Short stay 50, hhr 80 hr 120 Becca is number 1 in the kiosk