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  1. #8844
    Quote Originally Posted by Ump1969  [View Original Post]
    Look at it from LEO's point of view. Unlike drug dealers and gangbangers, girls don't shoot back.
    Nor do mongers, typically. Got to love how they "serve and protect". Except it's not the fault of the cops that we encounter, these decisions get made higher up.

    I'm done with this crap. There's other ways. Just more $$$ and less "fun".

    *Now* I remember previously going past that undercover in the opposite direction from the final time, (when she pulled me over). I saw the front bumper reinforcement. Had a fleeting thought that I should check out that vehicle more closely. Which I then lost because there was a girl across the street -- just not the one I was looking for. I wonder if *that* girl was a decoy? It's too bad I'm such a bird-brain, because the vehicle matched what's been said earlier about the undercover vehicles in many ways. Had I looked more closely on that first pass, I might have avoided this altogether. I did notice it as I passed her by, just before she pulled me over. Too late.

    As it is, I am lucky that, for whatever reason, they stopped me before I did anything illegal and sent me on my way. At least, I think it was before. So many things are illegal now, who knows?

  2. #8843

    Stings

    Reading about mongers getting arrested is depressing. But I posted my warning a month ago. West side aldercreatures started pushing for more enforcement. The penalties for both girls and johns have increased. It's an election year, with state and local in November and city next April. I don't want to depress anyone too much. Don't forget I'm also a monger. But I wouuldn't count on a letup, if ever, until next spring. The mayor's reelection is in trouble. Shootings are skyrocketing along with taxes and fees. The mayor has to show success at something. Either a lot of girls and guys will get busted or the streets will dry up as the girls get tired of the pokey. Do I know this for a fact? Of course not! But I have seen it happen in other places. What has happened to street action in places like Chicago Heights, Champaign, Peoria, Springfield, and Decatur? How's it going on South Cicero, 47th, Devon, and other formerly busy locations? LEO has always had the ability yo shut down the street trade. Now the city is making it worthwhile. Look at it from LEO's point of view. Unlike drug dealers and gangbangers, girls don't shoot back.

  3. #8842

    Thanks George

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeStark  [View Original Post]
    The the Undercovers are out tonight on the K Street and 5th Avenue. I got pulled over by 1. I'm okay. She just told me to get out of there. Be careful guys.
    Appreciate the info.

  4. #8841
    So I was trying *not* to just go around in circles but to go around in figure eights, etc. But I must have passed her more than once and if I did I should haVe noticed it because it had all the signs of an unfdercover. She asked me some *very* awkward questions and then told me to get out of there. I did. I think I'm through with this.

    So much for the theory that on Saturdays they're spending more resources on trying to stop shootings than trying to hassle Johns and working girls.

  5. #8840

    Unmarked

    Honestly, unmarked LEO can be any vehicle.

    I've seen a Nissan Soccer-mom Minivan flash it's lights passing through an intersection a few months ago.

    They're not just the typical: American brand vehicle with circular hubcaps, spotlights, a push-bumper, and MP license plate.

    UC's can have no spotlights, a regular license plate, and be of any brand vehicle.

    What I've noticed with those vehicles is that they do have the red & blue lights tucked at the top of the front and rear window, and depending on the vehicle, there would be a small <6" tint at the top of the windows to hide the lights.

    Also, if they're conducting a sting or watch operation, the unmarks would park on the main street or side street and radio in a suspicious vehicle for a marked vehicle to roll-in on. Don't you think for the safety of their own decoys that they would have someone watching over the girl the whole time within immediate reach?

  6. #8839

    The Undercovers are out tonight on 5th and the K streets

    The the Undercovers are out tonight on the K Street and 5th Avenue. I got pulled over by 1. I'm okay. She just told me to get out of there. Be careful guys.

  7. #8838
    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeStark  [View Original Post]
    What is it about the wheels and hubcaps that says uncle?
    https://www.carthrottle.com/post/wg7zobq/ Just read through this.

  8. #8837

    Re: Re: How to recognize unmarked uncle?

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceWayne01  [View Original Post]
    #3 the wheels / hubcaps.
    What is it about the wheels and hubcaps that says uncle?

  9. #8836

    Re: How to recognize unmarked uncle?

    It was no joke. The big Spotlight on the driver side is something that I had not thought of or understood. As far as the MP license plates, I have heard of cases where those were not used. And I'm not sure how I'm supposed to recognize cops sitting in a dark car. My night vision sucks. I guess anybody sitting in a car with the lights out would be suspect in those areas. Thank you.

  10. #8835

    PSA: Don't talk to the police.

    I've heard various theories here on how to deal with being stopped by the police. I think in the general case what is at this link applies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

    Not only is there a lawyer telling you all the different ways you can get screwed by saying anything at all to the police, there is also a cop who confirms everything the lawyer says. The police can use all sorts of lies and deceit in order to try and get you to confess to something. For example they can say they took the girl off separately question her and then come back and tell you complete bullshit about what she said went on, in order to get you to confess. Don't do it!

    See also here re: "Terry Stop" : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop - as I understand it they have the right to request your identification, and they have the right to pat you down for weapons. Whether they have the right to search the vehicle varies but if they ask you to get out of the car other videos I've seen say that the best thing to say is "I am not consenting to a search".

    More from Wiki on the vehicle search.

    If police reasonably suspect the driver or any of the occupants may be dangerous and that the vehicle may contain a weapon to which an occupant may gain access, police may perform a protective search of the passenger compartment.

    Without a warrant, probable cause, or the driver's consent, police may not search the vehicle, but under the "plain view" doctrine may seize and use as evidence weapons or contraband that are visible from outside the vehicle.
    The reference to the passenger compartment says to me that any hobbyist related things or contraband not immediately needed should be kept in the trunk.

    I once got rousted while sitting in my car in a place that I thought a girl would show up. It was a place where SWs hung out. They asked me what I was doing there and I gave them some bullshit story. That discussion just kept getting worse and antagonistic until finally I just stopped talking. I ended up with no bad consequences only because I hadn't done anything illegal and there was nothing illegal in the car, because when they ordered me out of the car the cop grabbed the door I opened and went into search everything in the car.

  11. #8834

    How to recognize unmarked uncle?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeStark  [View Original Post]
    How do you recognize the unmarked LEO cars?
    Ok maybe this is a joke but maybe it's not and someone really doesn't know how to tell the difference between a reg persons car & unmarked police car so I will just say a few obvious differences and others can pitch in if they want. #1 difference is the BIG SPOTLIGHT on drivers side window #2 mp plates which stand for municipal police department #3 the wheels / hubcaps and last but not least the freaking police officers driving the car! Hahahahaha they do use comepleatly different vehicles whn they are doing the stings I have seen them use anything from vans to pickup trucks for the stings so you have to be careful hope this helps and stay safe out there I think after the shootings made national headlines was the reason for the continued heavy uncle presence all over.

  12. #8833
    Quote Originally Posted by BruceWayne01  [View Original Post]
    Went out in the stroll between 1:30/3:30 am and saw a few girls but also very very heavy uncle presence all over. First sighting was a BSW with her pimp passed on this one on Madsion & kostner. Saw 2 cracked out WSW walking together on Pulaski & division passed on them also they both looked cracked the fc $k out. Saw another BSW with pimp passed on her also at north & pulski. Only saw 3 WSW on 5th & kolmer one was getting into a white hummer and as soon as I passed the other 2 WSW unmarked uncle Car was going east on 5th from cicero. Uncle was out on every corner on cicero and side streets in marked & unmarked cars. Did not even brother to go to 47 due to the very heavy uncle presence and stings going on in the areas. Be careful out there there is some action as far as the girls go but there is also a extremely heavy uncle presence out as well. Decided it's not worth the risk and came home and I will try again later on in the week.
    I notice 47th does there stings every Thursday nights and Brucewayne I notice that on sat night there not much cops due to all the shootings and stuff. Try around 9 pm to 11 pm last week 5th was busy with women. 47 tj has one or two. I notice 47th and Western use to be good but it's beem dead for a while. I have some non pros Nruce if you need that do car dates for good price hmu.

  13. #8832
    Quote Originally Posted by BruceWayne01  [View Original Post]
    Uncle was out on every corner on cicero and side streets in marked & unmarked cars.
    How do you recognize the unmarked LEO cars?

  14. #8831

    AKA Tina?

    Quote Originally Posted by RichardHead788  [View Original Post]
    Hit up my girl Andrea S who I haven't seen in awhile. She said she had a room on 63rd by cic. Awesome BBBJ and balls sucking at least 20 minutes with a cof finish. Willing to trade for some utr girls closer to south subs.
    Is this the one from 5th. Short, nice rear. ?

  15. #8830

    Few Sightings & HEAVY UNCLE

    Went out in the stroll between 1:30/3:30 am and saw a few girls but also very very heavy uncle presence all over. First sighting was a BSW with her pimp passed on this one on Madsion & kostner. Saw 2 cracked out WSW walking together on Pulaski & division passed on them also they both looked cracked the fc $k out. Saw another BSW with pimp passed on her also at north & pulski. Only saw 3 WSW on 5th & kolmer one was getting into a white hummer and as soon as I passed the other 2 WSW unmarked uncle Car was going east on 5th from cicero. Uncle was out on every corner on cicero and side streets in marked & unmarked cars. Did not even brother to go to 47 due to the very heavy uncle presence and stings going on in the areas. Be careful out there there is some action as far as the girls go but there is also a extremely heavy uncle presence out as well. Decided it's not worth the risk and came home and I will try again later on in the week.

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