Arrangement Reports

[FruitNinja]

I think the overall response rate is par for the course. The instant dinner invitation may be pushing some more cautious (and therefore more real and reasonable) girls off. I usually start with a little bit more casual banter about things on their profile or the site in general. If there's any kind of exchange at that point I try to move it over to text / email ASAP, and then move quickly to logistics. The site's messaging system isn't the greatest, but if a girl can't carry on a simple exchange in a decent amount of time, then odds are it won't work out anyway. I also wouldn't rule out a follow-up message to non-responders who still show up online. Its not like you have anything to lose and sometimes getting back on the top of their message list is all that was needed.

But the dinner invite before you've even exchanged pleasantries may be giving some girls pause. Even a quick bit of back-and-forth and then moving communication off the site may put more of them at ease. And of course some may be more comfortable with coffee during the day, etc. Than a formal dinner as a first meet.

The Uber option depends on each situation. I've paid a $15 Uber for a girl to get to a room that we were going to spend hours in at a PPM I found fair. But a long-distance round trip would make everything more expensive and difficult (probably the same even if both parties were driving). In general girls that can't manage their own transportation are going to be harder to deal with in general so I'd hope they were worth it in all the other ways!

You make a good point. Just like any other dating app you need to make the girl comfortable before you ask to meet. Especially girls that are new to the site. You have to realize they are nervous. They don't know who you are or what your intentions are. This can be done in many ways. Once she feels comfortable then you try and move it to another means of communications. Sa is not much different than real life. Just as in real life the key to a girls heart is laughter.

[Chicago41]

I'm starting to figure out a lot of the people on SA are just plain old time wasters. I've had three good meetups, but at least 3/4 of the girls I contact either ignore me or respond with like a 5-word sentence. Most that respond just end up ghosting. Like someone said below, plenty of antisocial creeps making fake profiles, plenty of girls on there just messing around too. And a lot of GPS. I probably won't renew. I specifically joined this to meet 18-19 year olds and they're all flaky as hell on that site. I don't know how you guys have the patience for it. The ones I've met have been 30's and up and great. I'd rather bone a hot 30-year-old who knows what she's doing than waste time trying to hook up with these young flakes.

[Chicago41]

Thanks. Yea she told me 4000 per month and once a week. That's nuts.

That's hilarious. For $48,000 a year she better fuck me BBFSCIP twice a day, cook me dinner every day and do the taxes!

[RidingOneUp]

https://www.seeking.com/member/8d614...a-ebfe77e6d384

Looking for 1500/ min per month but will start out at 300 ppm for a couple months. Spent some time with her and it didn't click for me. Nice enough girl, attractive. Something just seemed off.

[FruitNinja]

Thanks for all the information. It is very true that we all need to be careful inside the bedroom. I know of many friends that have gone to the SA site in order to get their BB fix. They think those girls are meek and humble. What their finding out is if their willing to sleep on the first date, they will with the others if the price is right. Be careful Mongers!

I think one needs to be cautious but one can mitigate exposure by doing a subtle yet thorough investigation before you get to the bedroom. You would be surprised at what you can find ut by reading between the lines. If you're still concerned you can request a STD test. I did this once. She didn't want to so I passed. I have mongered for 30 plus years and like most guys I prefer BB. I've only gotten one STD (gonorrhea) in Kuala Lampur. This was me at my worst. Drunk and having to have a particular girl. Cost to me was a Dr visit followed by a shot and some antibiotics.

[Pal5600]

So I ask her why monthly, she said that if she get paid per meet, she will feel like a hooker, but if you get monthly payment then is okay, WTF is going on in these girls head, can anyone figure it out.

If you like her, this one is also something else https://www.seeking.com/member/4fe25...e-6e97624b161c she text a 1 am and want to meet the next day before she leave for LA, at first she want 700, I said no, then she low to 400, I said ok, so the next day she text in the morning want to meet at a hotel near ohare before her 4 pm flight to LA, so we agree to meet at 1 pm by ohare before she leave, she text saying please confirm the hotel so we can meet at 1 pm, so around noon I confirm the hotel, then she ghost, WTF why she waste all that time for nothing, I do think she will be back chicago soon, probably have to go through the same BS game with her, again, she is the kind of pussy I am looking for so I have to play the game.

[Pal5600]

Thanks. Yea she told me 4000 per month and once a week. That's nuts.

So I ask her why monthly, she said that if she get paid per meet, she will feel like a hooker, but if you get monthly payment then is okay, WTF is going on in these girls head, can anyone figure it out.

[Member #5757]

I've been on SA for a little over a year now. I'd say I've had about one meet up on average per week, and typically a new girl as I like variety. My approach from day 1 was to make a profile that comes across very non-sketchy. I have a nicely written 3-5 sentence paragraph in the two categories. I do not have a public pic, only one private pic of me which is a selfie before a night out on the town. I answer all the pre-set stats questions (ht, body type, income, net worth) and I exaggerate all of them for the better. My goal is that when they click on my profile after my first message that my profile is welcoming, but also shows I'm serious about meeting.

As far as messaging. Use the filters to get it to the age and things you target, and then focus on the girls who are online, or at least online in the past day. First message I send is only a few sentences including a compliment on them physically, along with my interest in "discussing details to see if we're on the same page". I end it with the last line offering to send more pics of myself through text. I typically give access to my private pic along with my first message. Sometimes you'll get a response with a number right away because they're curious about the additional pics.

If you do get a response it's typically a brief sentence or two asking "what are you looking for? This is where a very sincerely written copy / paste message can help lay out what you're hoping to find. Just don't make it perverted, too long or overly specific. Mine says how I'm recently divorced, don't want to traditionally date, want one girl to meet weekly, and I'd provide allowance that we agree upon. I think putting in that you understand the allowance part helps them feel comfortable.

From there it's all negotiation if they're interested in what your copy / paste message said, and if you can pay the allowance. Meeting just be careful, but I typically just have them come to wherever I'm staying. You should have a good read on them after discussing the terms and always get at least one additional pic from them before meeting.

Good luck!

[BudLover99]

We actually exchange phone number and chatting about meet up, but then she said 3000-4000 per month, and we can meet about 2 times a week, I said I can do 400 per meet and see how we get along, but she just want a monthly allowance so I said no, idk maybe she change her mind now or maybe not, she is the type of girl I would interested / invest my money and time, but not everything work out the way I want it. Oh well.

Thanks. Yea she told me 4000 per month and once a week. That's nuts.

[Pal5600]

How much did she want?

We actually exchange phone number and chatting about meet up, but then she said 3000-4000 per month, and we can meet about 2 times a week, I said I can do 400 per meet and see how we get along, but she just want a monthly allowance so I said no, idk maybe she change her mind now or maybe not, she is the type of girl I would interested / invest my money and time, but not everything work out the way I want it. Oh well.

[Jaster191]

Also, this might be a dumb question but do you guys know of forums similar to this one[Deleted by Admin]

You are correct, that was one of the dumber things you can do.

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[Jaster191]

Thanks guys for the advice!

I actually took myself off search because I initially got spammed by a bunch of girls I really wasn't remotely interested in. I guess you guys think that's a bad idea?

For the pictures, you guys are using real pictures of yourselves? I just put someone who looks like me. Maybe do that for the face shot and put some real body shots with face cropped out?

For first meet ups I should only pay for dinner or coffee or whatever right, don't pay them just to have dinner?

Thanks again really appreciate the guidance.

[FafaFooey]

So I just signed up for premium membership a few days ago. Have sent maybe 30-40 messages now, maybe about 6 replies. Only 1 turned into a phone number so far. Most of the replies are a few words, I reply then don't get a second reply. Out of the 40 messages only about 10 or so clicked on my profile.

Also what can I do to increase response rate? Or is this the rate to expect more or less? Most of my initial messages are 2 sentences: 1 sentence commenting on something specific in her profile casually, the next sentence saying I'd love to buy her dinner some day and which day could work.

Thanks for any help guys!

I think the overall response rate is par for the course. The instant dinner invitation may be pushing some more cautious (and therefore more real and reasonable) girls off. I usually start with a little bit more casual banter about things on their profile or the site in general. If there's any kind of exchange at that point I try to move it over to text / email ASAP, and then move quickly to logistics. The site's messaging system isn't the greatest, but if a girl can't carry on a simple exchange in a decent amount of time, then odds are it won't work out anyway. I also wouldn't rule out a follow-up message to non-responders who still show up online. Its not like you have anything to lose and sometimes getting back on the top of their message list is all that was needed.

But the dinner invite before you've even exchanged pleasantries may be giving some girls pause. Even a quick bit of back-and-forth and then moving communication off the site may put more of them at ease. And of course some may be more comfortable with coffee during the day, etc. Than a formal dinner as a first meet.

The Uber option depends on each situation. I've paid a $15 Uber for a girl to get to a room that we were going to spend hours in at a PPM I found fair. But a long-distance round trip would make everything more expensive and difficult (probably the same even if both parties were driving). In general girls that can't manage their own transportation are going to be harder to deal with in general so I'd hope they were worth it in all the other ways!

[OF Charlie]

I only message ladies who have been on this site recently. If they have not been on for a few weeks, the chances of getting a response are a lot lower. I have had a couple that wanted me to Uber them to my place. They were like over an hour away and wanted to stay the night. I declined LOL. Just be patient. I get a lot of unsolicited messages from actual ladies that are new to the site. It takes time. I have found that the ladies that give very brief responses are ones that you are not going to end up meeting. Sometimes I get a ton of new messages and end up seeing two new ladies in a week.

I go even a step further. I only message girls who are online at the same time that I am on. Here is my thought behind it. Hot girls get a ton of messages. If you message her when she is not online, the next time she logs on chances are your message is in the bottom of the message list. If she has say 25 new messages when she logs in the next time, the odd of her replying to your message that is in the bottom is not that good. I have made exceptions to this strategy on girls who I really want to talk to and some have replied. But from my experience, if you message a girl who is online, your chance of getting a reply is better.

I will leave one more tip. I log out and log back in every half hour. Just like us, some girls search by recently active. If you constantly log out and log back in, your profile will show up in the first page instead of page 5 that girls never get around to. I know this works because every time I log out and log back in again, I instantly get girls to view my profile. I am too cheap to buy the boost, so this is a work around. It's a pain to keep logging out and back in, but it works for me.

[BudLover99]

Chat with her and exchange phone number, but her monthly allowance is too high, try to get her down to ppm deal, but she said no, not sure if she will lower her asking price or not.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ad5c8...a-ce33afbd7e28

How much did she want?