Arrangement Reports

[SteamTrain98]

So I just signed up for premium membership a few days ago. Have sent maybe 30-40 messages now, maybe about 6 replies. Only 1 turned into a phone number so far. Most of the replies are a few words, I reply then don't get a second reply. Out of the 40 messages only about 10 or so clicked on my profile.

The one girl I've been texting agreed to dinner, but then told me she was working Friday night and would need 1 k for the night. I told her nothing until we have dinner first (I'll buy) and she agreed. After we fixed a night and time for dinner she then told me she wanted me to uber her from some place far away from the city (will cost about $50 to do this). What do you guys think?

Also what can I do to increase response rate? Or is this the rate to expect more or less? Most of my initial messages are 2 sentences: 1 sentence commenting on something specific in her profile casually, the next sentence saying I'd love to buy her dinner some day and which day could work.

Thanks for any help guys!

Your experience so far has been par for the course based on my experience. Like any other dating site, there are plenty of bogus profiles out there (girls who gave up but never deactivated their account, weirdos creating fake accounts with stolen pics just for whatever reason, or even fake ones by the site itself to help make it seem like there's more in your area). Get used to the response rate being low. Honestly, having 25% actually even look at your profile after sending a message is pretty damned good.

Based on the way you're talking, I'm guessing the 1 k allowance was probably a little more than you were planning. If that's the case, I wouldn't have bothered to set up a meet, but rather just politely declined and been honest that it was too much. This would have resulted in one of 3 possible outcomes:

1) The girl decides you're not offering enough and just ghosts.

2) The girl truly has GPS, insists that she's worth it and tries to convince you to agree to her terms.

3) The girl decides she'll make an exception for you this one time, and will lower her expectations.

IMHO, scenario 3 is the only one I consider, but I proceed with caution. She's got to hold a decent conversation with me (text or messaging) and I need to feel confident she's not going to hustle me if we end up meeting. If she's actually willing and able to put together some coherent thoughts and doesn't just complain about how expensive life is. More or less, doesn't keep bringing up money, I MIGHT schedule a meet.

Personally, I've never run into the issue that you had where she wanted you to uber her in from somewhere else. I tend to arrange meet-ups somewhere convenient for us both and have been lucky enough never to have a girl pull that sort of stunt. If what happened to you were to happen to me, I'd cut anchor and move on to the next. It's just a sign of more drama, there will always be some other thing that they expect outside of the allowance. (This latter part has happened to me, and I quickly ended that arrangement, as I'm not in it for bullshit, if I was, I'd be on a normal dating site).

Bottom line. Arrangements require a lot of lines to be put in the water and the girls don't want to think of themselves as trading their bodies for money (even if that might be exactly what they are doing.) So, keep sending messages, but treat the messages like a regular dating site. Also, if you want better responses, make sure you have some decent photos of yourself. Just like us guys, girls like full body shots so they know they're not getting someone whose body they find unattractive. Make sure you have a couple clear face shots, and some good full body ones and you'll be surprised how much of a difference that makes.

[Jaster191]

So I just signed up for premium membership a few days ago. Have sent maybe 30-40 messages now, maybe about 6 replies. Only 1 turned into a phone number so far. Most of the replies are a few words, I reply then don't get a second reply. Out of the 40 messages only about 10 or so clicked on my profile.

The one girl I've been texting agreed to dinner, but then told me she was working Friday night and would need 1 k for the night. I told her nothing until we have dinner first (I'll buy) and she agreed. After we fixed a night and time for dinner she then told me she wanted me to uber her from some place far away from the city (will cost about $50 to do this). What do you guys think?

Also what can I do to increase response rate? Or is this the rate to expect more or less? Most of my initial messages are 2 sentences: 1 sentence commenting on something specific in her profile casually, the next sentence saying I'd love to buy her dinner some day and which day could work.

Thanks for any help guys!

[KriegHoff75]

Thanks for all the information. It is very true that we all need to be careful inside the bedroom. I know of many friends that have gone to the SA site in order to get their BB fix. They think those girls are meek and humble. What their finding out is if their willing to sleep on the first date, they will with the others if the price is right. Be careful Mongers!

[Wisguy50]

I know of 2 guys that have got genital herpes from SA girls recently. Both guys have good taste in girls, are experienced hobbyist and are seeing higher end girls not the low rent ones. So it's not always the skank or streetwalker girl who passes it, these guys were only seeing the typical SA college / girl next door hotties. Both guys thought the girls they were seeing were low risk. They aren't pros, they are innocent college girls, what could go wrong right? LOL.

Don't want to be an alarmist but this stuff is out there and with everyone raw dogging each other on SA these days it's it's not surprising that we see a recent uptick in STD risks and transmission.

When you get STD tests make sure they are testing for HSV, not all tests do it automatically and you have to ask for it in many cases.

Three interesting things about HSV. 1) According to the CDC (US Centers for Disease Control) more than 85% of the people with genital HSV don't know they have it, but are nevertheless infectious (people with HSV are, however, only infectious part of the time). 2) HSV is a skin contact disease that can be present on many body parts not protected by condoms, and can be contracted on many body parts not protected by condoms. Studies show that condoms reduce the risk of acquiring HSV by, best case, about 50%. 3) Blood test for HSV antibodies can give a false negative for many weeks, even a couple months, after the first outbreak. A negative HSV blood test tells you, with certainty, that the person tested was clean as of about 3 months prior.

[Pau Ford]

A little more on this:

I have literally done 200 plus girls starting with CL ads seeking Sb's to present day SA. Most of those have been uncovered. I have NEVER caught anything. .

I know of 2 guys that have got genital herpes from SA girls recently. Both guys have good taste in girls, are experienced hobbyist and are seeing higher end girls not the low rent ones. So it's not always the skank or streetwalker girl who passes it, these guys were only seeing the typical SA college / girl next door hotties. Both guys thought the girls they were seeing were low risk. They aren't pros, they are innocent college girls, what could go wrong right? LOL.

Don't want to be an alarmist but this stuff is out there and with everyone raw dogging each other on SA these days it's it's not surprising that we see a recent uptick in STD risks and transmission.

When you get STD tests make sure they are testing for HSV, not all tests do it automatically and you have to ask for it in many cases.

[Roarson 1281]

Thanks for the heads up on the auto-renew. My membership expires today. I closed out my profile, as I do not want the auto-renew, and I could not find an option without it.

You can cancel autorenew on the website, just go to settings, payment, and theres an option to cancel autorenew on that screen.

Thanks!

[CarolinaBlue]

From what women have told me, if they pay they can see your entire profile, otherwise it is just pictures and your tagline.

Currently women have to pay $19/ month to become premium if they want to see if the men are premium subscribers that are able to send and read messages. They also can't tell if you have read their message unless they are premium.

[FruitNinja]

I have used seeking arrangments and have not like spending time with Filtering and finding which girls are good. I am also not interested in doing this without protection becuase I know some girls there have herpes and other risky shit becuase I know guys that have gotten the short straw. Most girls there are flaky so If I would be 60 yrs old and retired, then great this is a good way to spend my time filtering and doing all the chit chat. Also girls have tried to set traps to rob some of my guy friends and shit like that, so I have now used independent escorts. Any recommendations on which agency I can use?

A little more on this:

I have literally done 200 plus girls starting with CL ads seeking Sb's to present day SA. Most of those have been uncovered. I have NEVER caught anything. Maybe it's because I use common sense in picking my SB. I have had a few girls try to scam me but I'd like to think I'm smarter than a 20 year old. If you get yourself in a position where you're set up to be robbed then you are a few cards short of a full deck. Meet in public man. I will say there is a big difference between a pro and a SB. Day and night actually. I've also seen many a pro in my life and I'm not a big fan. It's always some damn issue. I've also been ripped off by a pro. Broke the cardinal rule of no money upfront. That was in my younger days.

My guess is this two time poster is either a shill for the agencies or has no game on SA. JMHO.

[FruitNinja]

I have used seeking arrangments and have not like spending time with Filtering and finding which girls are good. I am also not interested in doing this without protection becuase I know some girls there have herpes and other risky shit becuase I know guys that have gotten the short straw. Most girls there are flaky so If I would be 60 yrs old and retired, then great this is a good way to spend my time filtering and doing all the chit chat. Also girls have tried to set traps to rob some of my guy friends and shit like that, so I have now used independent escorts. Any recommendations on which agency I can use?

Gee,

Thanks for sharing this useful information.

[FafaFooey]

Thanks for the heads up on the auto-renew. My membership expires today. I closed out my profile, as I do not want the auto-renew, and I could not find an option without it.

I wonder what would happen if the auto-renew transaction got declined (which would happen if the original sign-up was with a gift card). I'd be ok with it just going back to a 'standard' membership, but having to close your profile to take a month or two off from Premium status is pretty harsh.

This and the removal of mobile apps has really hurt the site over the past few months, IMO. I think they forget that a lot of girls in the demographic that makes the site tick never actually get in front of a keyboard and monitor for their online activities. Its smartphone or nothing. I'm sure everyone's personal experience could be different depending on when they joined and their particular area & search filters, but it feels like last summer there would be a page or two of 'Newest' to review every few days. Now one scroll to the bottom of 'Newest' goes back 2 weeks. It's mostly the same old faces over and over, and that's kept me in non-Premium for awhile now.

[ChiNorthside]

Sent you DM, info would be appreciated.

She got sorted already fellas, thanks tho.

[BigTen]

The only complication may be that SA now wants to set up all billing as an auto-renewing recurring transaction and that may not always work with gift cards. Not sure what they would do to your account if the auto-renew just failed the next month. Hopefully just remove your Premium status and not take down your whole account.

I'm guessing this is all an organized effort to 'thin the herd' and bring back some of the exclusivity to the 'Premium' SDs.

Thanks for the heads up on the auto-renew. My membership expires today. I closed out my profile, as I do not want the auto-renew, and I could not find an option without it.

[JustPlay02]

You want a gift card (Vanilla, Target Visa, MetaBank, etc.), not a 'prepaid credit' card. You're right that most of the true prepaids (NetSpend, GreenDot, etc.) require you to register with a verifiable name, address, etc. But you can 'register' a gift card with a dummy name & address or sometimes just a zipcode and just parrot back that fake info when you use it online. The only complication may be that SA now wants to set up all billing as an auto-renewing recurring transaction and that may not always work with gift cards. Not sure what they would do to your account if the auto-renew just failed the next month. Hopefully just remove your Premium status and not take down your whole account.

I personally miss the single month option and the ability to pay using iTunes. It was really easy to set up a dummy iTunes account with no real name or credit card, load it up with iTunes gift cards, and renew that way. Wasn't that long ago they also had 2-week plans for around $50 on the iPhone app. At my best I could reload with a half-dozen new numbers in that time and then stop paying for the site. But the iPhone app disappeared a few months ago from the app store and never came back. I'm guessing this is all an organized effort to 'thin the herd' and bring back some of the exclusivity to the 'Premium' SDs.

This is very useful information. Some of the other websites (not SA) seem to allow buying of credits (secret benefits, ashley madison) which seems more useful. But the AM site seems to be full of scammers.

[Fun69]

I have used seeking arrangments and have not like spending time with Filtering and finding which girls are good. I am also not interested in doing this without protection becuase I know some girls there have herpes and other risky shit becuase I know guys that have gotten the short straw. Most girls there are flaky so If I would be 60 yrs old and retired, then great this is a good way to spend my time filtering and doing all the chit chat. Also girls have tried to set traps to rob some of my guy friends and shit like that, so I have now used independent escorts. Any recommendations on which agency I can use?

[JustPlay02]

I've used Vanilla Visa without entering *any* info whatsoever, not even zip code. I don't know if all the prepaid / gift cards are the same, but Vanilla Visa required zero info.

Thanks Olderguy. This is extremely helpful.