"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Harley32]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...9-d703e9f0d69e

Pretty girl and may even be a legit Hooters Girl. Asking $$/ meet but needs a deposit since she's been stood up before. She lost me at deposit. I'm guessing that scam must work enough to put up with all of us who tell her to go take a hike.

[Leep12]

I am really struggling to figure out how much to offer these SA girls. It seems lame to ask them how much they want, or how much they usually get, so I try to start with the first offer. But if it is too low, you will turn them off, and they will think you are a loser. And if too high, you just wasted some of your hard earned hobbying funds. But do you start on the low side of what they are worth to you, or do you just offer what you think will get them or some other approach? I know it depends on the girl.

I am usually offering 200 minimum if they are nice looking fairly young white girl. But for the better looking ones under 25, I will go up to 300. I've never paid more than 350 for a piece of ass in my entire life and that was with a hot 23 y/o Cheetah dancer. And was BBFS and and pics and video as well. But I met her on Craigslist, so that's a little different.

I met that one SA 33 y/o in Asheville and she asked for 500. I would have gone for it with her, but the girl would have to be totally my type and would have to meet her in person before I agreed to that amount. I just offered 400 to one on SA, because she seems near perfect from the pics, but perhaps I should have started with 300...just a tough call.

And for the older ones (40+), I will go as low as 100, but sometimes 150. I would rarely pay 200 for someone over 40, but could happen. I met a 42 y/o and offered her 150 and then instantly realized I should have said 100 instead. I usually get hotel room as well, so that is more expense for me.

So not sure if my question really makes sense, because obviously the wealthier guys are going to offer more. I know I'm competing with multi-millionaires in many cases and I usually can't win that battle.

I hear you. SA can be intoxicating at first, amazing all the young girls who will spread for a bit of money and you want to plug them all. I've settled down with a a few girls right now that I really like and are into the sex, got tired of all the time and energy chasing and narrowed it down after nailing about 12 diff girls. I never talk about money unless they bring it up but if they ask a budget and I really want to bag them I'll say "well 2=300 seems to be the going rate per date to start. I'll offer (300 if I really like them). I just found a new hottie for 300 and hosts, loves sex and doesn't care much about dining etc. The most I've been quoted is 400. These girls who quote guys 600 plus are just trying to blow them off usually or taking a shot. They hate being asked "how much" early in the process makes them feel like hoes.

If you can get a chick to meet F2 F and are willing to drop 2. 5 or 3 on her, then you are good to go, just take a shower and go close the deal.

These girls usually know their value, I'm not looking to bang a not so hot chubby girl for 1. 5 . I'd rather just go to my rub and tug Asian girl and drop 100 if that is all I have.

[Peter Johnson]

I guess it really comes down to how desperate you are to land a certain girl. As you seem to be quickly learning, there are tons of fish to land, so just politely decline a crazy offer, and move on. Ill use a line like " I'm afraid that's way over my budget, sorry if I wasted your time. " That lets them politely know they are asking WAY too much. They will almost always come back with "well how much can you afford"? Ill usually say "If I need to get the room as well, I can only do $200" From there, its negotiating. Also, another tactic I use is to start with a monthly allowance number. Ill tell them I can do $500 a month, but ill pay half up front, and half in the middle of the month. Now I'm only out the $250 for a single visit if they get flakey. But occasionally you get one that likes that deal, and you can meet them for a freebie between payments. The key is to be polite, and give a tiny bit of a sob story. Tell them "I'm not a rich man" Or "business is slow this time of year". Then just back away, and they eventually come back.

Good luck!

Ok wise words and may try some of that strategy. I suppose I just haven't done enough market research to figure out what different caliber girls will accept. The one I offered 400 to today seemed super excited by that offer, so maybe 300 would have sufficed And 100 is not a big deal, but if you see them three times, it obviously adds up. I don't repeat with girls that often, but would like to find someone who was so good that I would want to. But maybe it's impossible to compete with new pussy over the long haul.

I guess I will adjust my starting offer down a bit, but like you say, it depends on how badly you want a certain girl. I guess not smart to get on that site when you are too backed up on a particular day.

;3727256]It's your own style and feel, and the local market. Read all the Richmond thread on sugar, you'll develop a sense. However, a main poster over there JZLizard, seems to be a master swordsman, and I wouldn't try to emulate him. He does seem / claim to get all kinds of great pussy w / little outlay.[/QUOTE]

I guess I should start reading that Richmond thread. It is so long, but not like I have to read it all in one sitting. But sounds like many words of wisdom are within.

[Johnny Mapalo]

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...b-cde05d31ec02

This one is 4'11 90 lbs and can host in midtown. First 3 pics. She wanted $200 weekly for however long. Didn't specify a time. Too skinny for me though. Need some more meat on the el bone zo. She's ripe for the picking though.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...0-d2c90c1a55ef

This one hit me up a month ago out of the blue. Wanted $200 for anything for however long. Last 3 pics. 5'6 150 lbs. Said she lived in a townhouse downtown, but I had to come before a certain time before her brothers came home. Ok. Then she suggested she would come to me. Not. She then suggested me getting a cheap room and we shack up. Not!

She then wanted to meet me at a gas station close to me so I could give her $60 donation now and the rest when I got the room. Right. I told her where I was located and she went to the gas station down the street to meet me there. LOL. Curious to see what she looked like, I drove down the street to the gas station and saw 3 young girls sitting in a Lexus SUV outside the gas station. I called her and heard a bunch of chicken heads making noise in the background.

Told her I was coming to give her the money, but lied to to 10 minutes later when she called to find out where I was. LOL. She got pissed for me supposedly wasting her time, but she did text me the next day to find out if I was still getting a room. Not!! Maybe one of you fools can try her out.

[SoonerFan72]

I am really struggling to figure out how much to offer these SA girls. It seems lame to ask them how much they want, or how much they usually get, so I try to start with the first offer. But if it is too low, you will turn them off, and they will think you are a loser. And if too high, you just wasted some of your hard earned hobbying funds. But do you start on the low side of what they are worth to you, or do you just offer what you think will get them or some other approach? I know it depends on the girl.

I am usually offering 200 minimum if they are nice looking fairly young white girl. But for the better looking ones under 25, I will go up to 300. I've never paid more than 350 for a piece of ass in my entire life and that was with a hot 23 y/o Cheetah dancer. And was BBFS and and pics and video as well. But I met her on Craigslist, so that's a little different.

I met that one SA 33 y/o in Asheville and she asked for 500. I would have gone for it with her, but the girl would have to be totally my type and would have to meet her in person before I agreed to that amount. I just offered 400 to one on SA, because she seems near perfect from the pics, but perhaps I should have started with 300...just a tough call.

And for the older ones (40+), I will go as low as 100, but sometimes 150. I would rarely pay 200 for someone over 40, but could happen. I met a 42 y/o and offered her 150 and then instantly realized I should have said 100 instead. I usually get hotel room as well, so that is more expense for me.

So not sure if my question really makes sense, because obviously the wealthier guys are going to offer more. I know I'm competing with multi-millionaires in many cases and I usually can't win that battle.

I guess it really comes down to how desperate you are to land a certain girl. As you seem to be quickly learning, there are tons of fish to land, so just politely decline a crazy offer, and move on. Ill use a line like " I'm afraid that's way over my budget, sorry if I wasted your time. " That lets them politely know they are asking WAY too much. They will almost always come back with "well how much can you afford"? Ill usually say "If I need to get the room as well, I can only do $200" From there, its negotiating. Also, another tactic I use is to start with a monthly allowance number. Ill tell them I can do $500 a month, but ill pay half up front, and half in the middle of the month. Now I'm only out the $250 for a single visit if they get flakey. But occasionally you get one that likes that deal, and you can meet them for a freebie between payments. The key is to be polite, and give a tiny bit of a sob story. Tell them "I'm not a rich man" Or "business is slow this time of year". Then just back away, and they eventually come back.

Good luck!

[FarFarAway]

I am really struggling to figure out how much to offer these SA girls. It seems lame to ask them how much they want, or how much they usually get, so I try to start with the first offer. But if it is too low, you will turn them off, and they will think you are a loser. And if too high, you just wasted some of your hard earned hobbying funds. But do you start on the low side of what they are worth to you, or do you just offer what you think will get them or some other approach? I know it depends on the girl.

I am usually offering 200 minimum if they are nice looking fairly young white girl. But for the better looking ones under 25, I will go up to 300. I've never paid more than 350 for a piece of ass in my entire life and that was with a hot 23 y/o Cheetah dancer. And was BBFS and and pics and video as well. But I met her on Craigslist, so that's a little different.

I met that one SA 33 y/o in Asheville and she asked for 500. I would have gone for it with her, but the girl would have to be totally my type and would have to meet her in person before I agreed to that amount. I just offered 400 to one on SA, because she seems near perfect from the pics, but perhaps I should have started with 300...just a tough call.

And for the older ones (40+), I will go as low as 100, but sometimes 150. I would rarely pay 200 for someone over 40, but could happen. I met a 42 y/o and offered her 150 and then instantly realized I should have said 100 instead. I usually get hotel room as well, so that is more expense for me.

So not sure if my question really makes sense, because obviously the wealthier guys are going to offer more. I know I'm competing with multi-millionaires in many cases and I usually can't win that battle.

It's your own style and feel, and the local market. Read all the Richmond thread on sugar, you'll develop a sense. However, a main poster over there JZLizard, seems to be a master swordsman, and I wouldn't try to emulate him. He does seem / claim to get all kinds of great pussy w / little outlay.

[Peter Johnson]

I am really struggling to figure out how much to offer these SA girls. It seems lame to ask them how much they want, or how much they usually get, so I try to start with the first offer. But if it is too low, you will turn them off, and they will think you are a loser. And if too high, you just wasted some of your hard earned hobbying funds. But do you start on the low side of what they are worth to you, or do you just offer what you think will get them or some other approach? I know it depends on the girl.

I am usually offering 200 minimum if they are nice looking fairly young white girl. But for the better looking ones under 25, I will go up to 300. I've never paid more than 350 for a piece of ass in my entire life and that was with a hot 23 y/o Cheetah dancer. And was BBFS and and pics and video as well. But I met her on Craigslist, so that's a little different.

I met that one SA 33 y/o in Asheville and she asked for 500. I would have gone for it with her, but the girl would have to be totally my type and would have to meet her in person before I agreed to that amount. I just offered 400 to one on SA, because she seems near perfect from the pics, but perhaps I should have started with 300...just a tough call.

And for the older ones (40+), I will go as low as 100, but sometimes 150. I would rarely pay 200 for someone over 40, but could happen. I met a 42 y/o and offered her 150 and then instantly realized I should have said 100 instead. I usually get hotel room as well, so that is more expense for me.

So not sure if my question really makes sense, because obviously the wealthier guys are going to offer more. I know I'm competing with multi-millionaires in many cases and I usually can't win that battle.

[Isodt]

Appreciate the info, will take it and run with it.

[Ripvan12]

I've just started recently looking into SA. I've mongered for years but never tried this route. The pic requirement to talk concerns me. I'd much rather avoid pics of me circulating. Any thoughts on other options? Do you pay the subscription to avoid the pic requirement for messaging?

Have had multiple girls favorite me from out of country (BS) and one from TX. Had 2 local now and am interested in talking to both.

Had the same concern my man. There are a couple ways around it. Pay for the premium membership and roll without posting a pic. Quite a few Ladies WILL engage you without a profile pic but you will need to be ready To furnish one when you transition to text.

Secondly you can always set pics to private and only share to women you choose.

Lastly, crop your face out of the pic. My profile has no full facial pictures only cropped which show my smile and body style. Happy Hunting. SA is like throwing a pebble into the ocean. Never going back to escorts or AMPs again. Ripper.

[SoonerFan72]

I've just started recently looking into SA. I've mongered for years but never tried this route. The pic requirement to talk concerns me. I'd much rather avoid pics of me circulating. Any thoughts on other options? Do you pay the subscription to avoid the pic requirement for messaging?

Have had multiple girls favorite me from out of country (BS) and one from TX. Had 2 local now and am interested in talking to both.

You can upload a picture, and keep it private. Then only reveal it to ladies that you choose. Or just upload a fake pic, and let them know after you have chatted them up that its fake. Even if you upload a pic, you will still need to pay the subscription eventually. I think they give you 10 free messages, that's all. As for the ladies that are not local, they would all love to come visit you. For a price. Its all about marketing for them. I just ignore them, unless its from a close city, such as Macon. There are girls that weekend away from college, and will come visit. My recommendation is to talk to as many as you can, and get them over to text messaging so you get their cell number in the first month. You should have plenty of leads, then just wait a few months, and join again.

Good luck!

[Isodt]

I've just started recently looking into SA. I've mongered for years but never tried this route. The pic requirement to talk concerns me. I'd much rather avoid pics of me circulating. Any thoughts on other options? Do you pay the subscription to avoid the pic requirement for messaging?

Have had multiple girls favorite me from out of country (BS) and one from TX. Had 2 local now and am interested in talking to both.

[BBtie72]

This is great advice and I have found the same thing going up to and GA and NC recently. I think I still offered the girls too much (200+), but there were a couple that I got for less. Of course time is money, and if you have to drive out to east bumblefuck, then that is costly, but sometimes worth it, especially if you like being up in the mtns or wherever. There are also more fair skinned white girls out in the boonies, so that is either good or bad, depending on your tastes and preferences.

I live in Knoxville. I read the board in Atlanta because I travel here frequently. It is very helpful. I have too found the girls that live in the outlying smaller towns are true hidden gems. I have had several experiences that were less than a hundo that were absolutely mind blowing.

[Peter Johnson]

If you are looking to spend less than $200 per meet, I recommend looking for girls outside of the city, I'm talking about 45 min to 1 hr out of the metro area. Their options are limited and are willing to to do more for less. Girls in the metro area will ask for 200+ because they know the demand is out there. I've been meeting up with this 22 yr old Latina that lives by herself in Dawsonvile; she was happy with dinner and a bottle of wine. We have met 3 times now and the first 2 I didn't give her any money nor she asked and we spent 3+ hrs, everything was BB! The third time I felt kinda bad and venmoed her $100. So including dinner, alcohol and gas I've spent about $60 per meet on this girl so far. An amazing deal if you ask me!

Other past experiences include girls in Newnan and Locust Grove where average dates were around 100 or less.

This is great advice and I have found the same thing going up to and GA and NC recently. I think I still offered the girls too much (200+), but there were a couple that I got for less. Of course time is money, and if you have to drive out to east bumblefuck, then that is costly, but sometimes worth it, especially if you like being up in the mtns or wherever. There are also more fair skinned white girls out in the boonies, so that is either good or bad, depending on your tastes and preferences.

[LazaroRosales]

If you are looking to spend less than $200 per meet, I recommend looking for girls outside of the city, I'm talking about 45 min to 1 hr out of the metro area. Their options are limited and are willing to to do more for less. Girls in the metro area will ask for 200+ because they know the demand is out there. I've been meeting up with this 22 yr old Latina that lives by herself in Dawsonvile; she was happy with dinner and a bottle of wine. We have met 3 times now and the first 2 I didn't give her any money nor she asked and we spent 3+ hrs, everything was BB! The third time I felt kinda bad and venmoed her $100. So including dinner, alcohol and gas I've spent about $60 per meet on this girl so far. An amazing deal if you ask me!

Other past experiences include girls in Newnan and Locust Grove where average dates were around 100 or less.

[TheJasonator]

Nice report, I haven't had any luck with any asian chicks most of them have been asking 4. 0 In which is higher than normal for me. And most do have the GPS L and just giving them some time to call you back out of the blue is better bc they'll work a bit lower.

As I mentioned before, I wasn't happy with what I was seeing as far as patient sugar babies, there were too few of them and they were asking for too much in return for nothing, so being the maniac that I am I focused on asian sugar babies and nothing else. My efforts paid off.

A girl that I had previously reported on as being GPS finally buckled to 300, we met up it was pretty cool she had a tight little 19 yo Vietnamese body shaved with firm As. Although it was super rushed no DFK no BBBJ or DATY but I did BBFSCOB. I'll repeat with her only if she comes down to 200 because she actually had a very nice attitude and seem like she didn't want to start an arrangement with me.

Now here's the crazy part on the same day I started talking to a 20 yo Korean girl and she was pretty much ready to go we met within two hours of first started talking 1. 60, BBFS DFK DATY 69 WCIM. She's not super firm on her body but she's definitely attractive and fuckable and she has a super submissive attitude, I spanked her, Slap her ass, pulled her hair a little bit and she was totally cool.

I wasn't even horny that morning but he was one of the days where everything just came together and I couldn't pass up on it, went back to the office popped 2 Truvadas and took a nap.

Think I'm going to take a break from Sa, I'm spending too much money and time on it and I got some work projects going on and literally my dick needs a break.