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  1. #11840

    Vanessa

    Quote Originally Posted by SinsinnatiToy  [View Original Post]
    Did search but the results yielded what I believe is another Vanessa that had red hair and worked for Bonner. Just curious if anybody has any experience with this Vanessa. Feel free to PM me or post. https://independent.com.cincinnati.e...387/5133886563.

    I may take one for the team next week if no info as she is one of the few girls that does long dates.
    I saw her this past summer, tall lady at least 6 ft. Nice enough and performed well enough, she's mid 40's easy. She said she was a notary and asked me to take her to Frischs on central pkwy so she can notarize a car title for some guy. I was leary but I did it there were no problems. If you see her you will leave satisfied and no issues. Looks wise she isn't someone I would continually see 1 pop was good enough for me. HL29.

  2. #11839

    Any info on this Vanessa

    Did search but the results yielded what I believe is another Vanessa that had red hair and worked for Bonner. Just curious if anybody has any experience with this Vanessa. Feel free to PM me or post. https://independent.com.cincinnati.e...387/5133886563.

    I may take one for the team next week if no info as she is one of the few girls that does long dates.

  3. #11838

    Shelf Life

    Quote Originally Posted by WarlockKy  [View Original Post]
    The first time I heard that pussy had a shelf life was when I was having a drink with Callia back in say 2008.

    Her complaint was that the "older" girls should accept that business was going to drop as they got older and get used to it, while some of the younger ones shouldn't even be on the shelf. (she also used to complain that Cincy wasn't worth stopping in for more than a day if you were on tour and over 25, since the prime market here was 18-21 yr olds).
    I'm not sure if it's completely related to age per se. I think when a new girl comes on the scene everyone wants to see her. She can't keep up with the request. The guys that loved her keep coming back. The guys that thought she was ok or not-for-me move on. Over time the guys who loved her start wandering away looking for new. If she's good she will maintain a steady flow of regulars and newbies who have read her reviews. But after a while probably because you have seen her ads "forever" (even if you haven't actually seen her) that you don't really consider her when you're shopping. You think to yourself "Yeah she was pretty good but this new girl looks hot".

  4. #11837

    Legit Duo

    Had a dream with Sky and Shevelle recently. Dream was for a hhr. $$. Performed DATY and rimming on both girls. BBBJ from each, CFS. Both tasted great. Both of them are very sexy and provided me a wonderful experience. Sky has one hell of an ass.

  5. #11836
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1185

    Shelf life

    Quote Originally Posted by BTBear  [View Original Post]
    Warlock,

    Hearing you mention Callia brought some FINE memories. Where is she now?

    Anyway I just wanted to chime in on the "shelf life" theory.

    I know a provider that is over 50 and is so busy she turns multiple guys away each day. Many of her clients are pushing or over 70. They pay well and are generous with tips and gifts. To them a woman 20 years their junior has a lot of "shelf life. ".

    You and I have been around a long time. We have seen good ones go bad. Bad ones become good and a lot in between. I gave up on 20 somethings a long time ago. Give me woman that is in her mid-30's and I am a happy camper. They are more professional. They know their own body and what they can do to satisfy a man with it better than the girl who gave her first blow job last year to her high school "love of her life. " Many of the younger ones have substance issues. Baby Daddy / Kids issues and they don't treat the Hobby like what it is, a business. Since I am in my 60's, any woman that is 50 or younger is fair game. Hell I was playing knothole baseball when they were born.

    Just tonight I was talking to my current ATF (mid-30's, MILF, hot as hell {to me}) and she was saying she has a life outside the hobby. She doesn't want a revolving door. She doesn't want to get burned out. Plus she screens like the FBI. Most guys don't understand that. Most guys think that these women are just sitting by the phone, are ready in 10 minutes and don't understand it when she says, "It will take me an hour to get ready. ". I guess they want to think they are "they are the first of the day" also.

    Guys think with their little head way too much. Read the reviews and see what they say about being kept waiting for 10 minutes and left. Another "friend" told me about waiting almost an hour for a client. He "got hung up at work. " She still saw him, but God forbid the situation was reversed. He would have been crying like a baby about how she had "stood him up. ".

    Give the "Age Appropriate" women the credit they deserve. They are stable. They are professional and they can still fuck like minks.
    I couldn't agree with BT Bear more. Sure, I've met with young girls and sometimes it's great because their bodies are firm and there's the (somewhat) rare occasion that they actually perform very well. There's also a certain amount of "adventure" in doing it with someone younger than your daughter. Being an older guy (I'm 67 today, in fact) I've come to the conclusion that the young girls just can't get excited when meeting with someone my age and, frankly, I don't blame them. As such, the most enjoyable parties I've had are with the older (not "old" more mature providers. As BTBear says, they not only know themselves, but they're simply more experienced and it usually shows in the way they react and provide their service. It's like any other business--the longer you're in it, the better you know it. I've got much more in common with a more mature lady who I can actually have a conversation with vs. The young gals who oftentimes seem to simply want to get it over with, get their money and get me out the door. I'm not into the "wham, bam, Thank You, Ma'am" thing. Along with the sex, I want some intimacy--someone I can tell my secrets to and share my fantasies. I'm sure I'll see some younger girls again because it's exciting and fun, but my best times will surely be with the MILFs.

  6. #11835

    Shelf Life is not the Same for Everyone

    Quote Originally Posted by WarlockKy  [View Original Post]
    The first time I heard that pussy had a shelf life was when I was having a drink with Callia back in say 2008.

    Her complaint was that the "older" girls should accept that business was going to drop as they got older and get used to it, while some of the younger ones shouldn't even be on the shelf. (she also used to complain that Cincy wasn't worth stopping in for more than a day if you were on tour and over 25, since the prime market here was 18-21 yr olds).
    Warlock,

    Hearing you mention Callia brought some FINE memories. Where is she now?

    Anyway I just wanted to chime in on the "shelf life" theory.

    I know a provider that is over 50 and is so busy she turns multiple guys away each day. Many of her clients are pushing or over 70. They pay well and are generous with tips and gifts. To them a woman 20 years their junior has a lot of "shelf life. ".

    You and I have been around a long time. We have seen good ones go bad. Bad ones become good and a lot in between. I gave up on 20 somethings a long time ago. Give me woman that is in her mid-30's and I am a happy camper. They are more professional. They know their own body and what they can do to satisfy a man with it better than the girl who gave her first blow job last year to her high school "love of her life. " Many of the younger ones have substance issues. Baby Daddy / Kids issues and they don't treat the Hobby like what it is, a business. Since I am in my 60's, any woman that is 50 or younger is fair game. Hell I was playing knothole baseball when they were born.

    Just tonight I was talking to my current ATF (mid-30's, MILF, hot as hell {to me}) and she was saying she has a life outside the hobby. She doesn't want a revolving door. She doesn't want to get burned out. Plus she screens like the FBI. Most guys don't understand that. Most guys think that these women are just sitting by the phone, are ready in 10 minutes and don't understand it when she says, "It will take me an hour to get ready. ". I guess they want to think they are "they are the first of the day" also.

    Guys think with their little head way too much. Read the reviews and see what they say about being kept waiting for 10 minutes and left. Another "friend" told me about waiting almost an hour for a client. He "got hung up at work. " She still saw him, but God forbid the situation was reversed. He would have been crying like a baby about how she had "stood him up. ".

    Give the "Age Appropriate" women the credit they deserve. They are stable. They are professional and they can still fuck like minks.

  7. #11834

    Lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dillsborodave  [View Original Post]
    I didn't realize pussy had a shelf life.
    The first time I heard that pussy had a shelf life was when I was having a drink with Callia back in say 2008.

    Her complaint was that the "older" girls should accept that business was going to drop as they got older and get used to it, while some of the younger ones shouldn't even be on the shelf. (she also used to complain that Cincy wasn't worth stopping in for more than a day if you were on tour and over 25, since the prime market here was 18-21 yr olds).

  8. #11833
    Quote Originally Posted by ToddCincy  [View Original Post]
    Just to put another spin on this: I saw Sara 7 years ago.

    She was very nice, but she was definitely a smoker; and she was already well into her 30's then. So we're now talking about a middle-age provider who smokes, and has been doing this since the last decade.

    For some that may be advantageous. But these are factors worth considering as negatives, too.

    Discreet Desires in Dayton (to cite one example) has much younger women who haven't been doing this for so long.

    I'm not saying that every provider has to be an 18 year old newbie, but the other extreme is to be avoided, IMO.
    She did smoke when she first started, as well as chug coffee by the gallon. What a combination. And then during a visit about six years ago I learned she had given up both. She does vape now, I guess because she doesn't always have a cock to suck on.

  9. #11832
    Quote Originally Posted by ToddCincy  [View Original Post]
    Just to put another spin on this: I saw Sara 7 years ago.

    She was very nice, but she was definitely a smoker; and she was already well into her 30's then. So we're now talking about a middle-age provider who smokes, and has been doing this since the last decade.

    For some that may be advantageous. But these are factors worth considering as negatives, too.

    Discreet Desires in Dayton (to cite one example) has much younger women who haven't been doing this for so long.

    I'm not saying that every provider has to be an 18 year old newbie, but the other extreme is to be avoided, IMO.
    I didn't realize pussy had a shelf life.

  10. #11831

    Alli

    I had a visit with Alli https://escortbabylon.net/#cincinnati / post /5138998871/24352271/24352271 a few weeks ago at here NKY incall. Incall was the nicest I have seen. Very safe.

    She looked spot on to her pictures. We both had first visit jitters so it was a little awkward but not bad.

    We did the LE check and got right down to business. Basic rules. The only thing that caught me off guard is that she is nursing so no nipple sucking. All in all a good visit. Convenient for me so I will go back.

  11. #11830

    Agree Galina was fun

    Gambia was ok by me. I saw her when she was new and it was always a fun time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willow1535  [View Original Post]
    She became my go to girl before I got caught up in the SB game. I never had a bad time with Galina and would welcome her back to the hobby. She was a gem!
    .

  12. #11829
    Senior Member


    Posts: 190

    All ages are ok

    Quote Originally Posted by ToddCincy  [View Original Post]
    Just to put another spin on this: I saw Sara 7 years ago.


    I'm not saying that every provider has to be an 18 year old newbie, but the other extreme is to be avoided, IMO.
    As long as they are able to find a market for their services, God bless them.

    I know some mongers who have age limits the opposite of yours (and mine). One in particular will not see anyone younger than his children. Call it a moral thing or whatever. Since this is his criteria every year he goes up a year in age as to who he will see. Lets face it, it's great to bang a 20 year old hard body, but there are alot of fine ladies 20 years younger than us.

    Now go have fun.

    Fdx.

  13. #11828

    Galina

    She became my go to girl before I got caught up in the SB game. I never had a bad time with Galina and would welcome her back to the hobby. She was a gem!

    Quote Originally Posted by LurkinGround  [View Original Post]
    Quite possible you caught her on a bad day. She was very nice to me, not total GFE but friendly with LFK, smiled a lot. We talked a little before and after. I wasnt all that attracted to her face, don't get me wrong, she was decent looking, just not beautiful. BUT. That body!! OMG, tight, tone and tan. Flat stomach, muscular legs and her ass was a sight to behold! Multiple positions, cim finish. A good time for sure!

  14. #11827

    I saw Sara TT in 2010

    Just to put another spin on this: I saw Sara 7 years ago.

    She was very nice, but she was definitely a smoker; and she was already well into her 30's then. So we're now talking about a middle-age provider who smokes, and has been doing this since the last decade.

    For some that may be advantageous. But these are factors worth considering as negatives, too.

    Discreet Desires in Dayton (to cite one example) has much younger women who haven't been doing this for so long.

    I'm not saying that every provider has to be an 18 year old newbie, but the other extreme is to be avoided, IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by BTBear  [View Original Post]
    I have seen Sarah twice, but it was years ago. We both were active on an Indy-pendent site and had met several times at site sponsored social activities (small hint for USASG to try Non-Business Happy Hour Gatherings.) She knew me as "Profromdover on Indys and Mike who had similar taste in music", so when I contacted her it was "sure. Come on over. ".

    She really doesn't need to advertise on USAAC or USASG. It is good that some of the members here keep reporting on her, because you never know, she might get a new regular off another board who happens to see the report.

    Now you can call me a White Knight, but I am not shilling for her or any other provider. I am just trying to make some statements about the state of the hobby for the providers. If this should be moved to the Octagon because of the shitty back and forth it might cause, then Admin2 move it now before that shit starts.

    Why should Sara put up with the Yahoos who are now seeking appointments with ladies on USAAC. Mongers who want $100 hours with BBFS. QVs that they take a half hour to complete. Men who don't realize and respect that these are professionals and if you are 30 minutes late or run over 20 minutes you fuck up the rest of their day. There has always been an attitude among mongers that these women just sit by the phone waiting for their calls. "Why can't I see you in 15 minutes. " "Because you want me freshly showered and made up. That takes time. " Or maybe they have a life like you and need to find time in the day to see you... like you do to see them. Some of these men are Senior Members here, but a growing amount are BP guys that found their way to the board. Ask any of the regular, professional advertisers on USAAC and they will tell you all about these bottom feeder, deal seeking, exploitational hobbyists. They waste a lot of time with the back and forth of scheduling an appointment only to be hassled at the last minute to lower their rate.

    P411 posts the P411 rates. Women can run specials, but a P411 member KNOWS going in that a woman is $250, $300, $450 or more before he ever contacts her. They also know that P411 women don't negotiate, so don't ask. Some women on that site are a Great Value for a Reasonable Price, others aren't. But haggling just about never happens with their members. Why? Because they know you can't ask Jeff Ruby to lower the price on a Filet Collinsworth, just because you only have the money to buy a filet at Longhorn. Go into the Precinct and try to negotiate the price and you will be asked to leave.

    I applaud Sara's business ethic, her style and conviction to maintain a certain level of control who she sees. She is a great Value for the Price. There are others here who have just a good "Value / Price" ratio, so seek them out. But I am willing to bet that they aren't the newbies who are flocking from BP. I will also bet that those "new meat specials" won't be here in two or three months.

  15. #11826

    Tara Butler has been doing this for 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWolverineJP  [View Original Post]
    Totally agree, I would not waste my time with either one, a mechanical blow up doll would have more passion, may as well add Galina from EE to that grouping, all three of them qualify as a semi-wet hole and very little value add beyond that. Ellie (Kellie) or Chloe are FAR more enjoyable IMHO. Stay safe!
    I saw Tara back in 2008 when she was in her late teens and new to the business. She was great then. At the time she was working for Fantasys in Lexington.

    She's now in her late 20's and a ten-year veteran. I've heard similar reports about her declining performance. Like many working stiffs, she's sick of her job.

    But the hobby is not just another job. I always cringe a little when I see a post about a girl who has reviews that date back to the first term of Obama (or even the Bush years! For everyone involved, a maximum period of 2 to 3 years in the biz should be the expectation. Ideally, we need a regularly changing lineup of new faces, not providers with 10 or 12 years of experience.

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