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  1. #10547

    Ella is gone and Molly is back

    Quote Originally Posted by Levatedprz  [View Original Post]
    Yesterday, Lake confirmed what we suspected, Ella left on Friday without notice. I am sure there must have been a very good reason for her abrupt decision.
    Looking at the website, Ella is already off but Molly's name is back. Does anyone know if this is the same Molly who used to work for Lake but then went off on her own?

  2. #10546

    Quality Massage

    AA Kim off of Page Avenue provides a very good therapeutic massage.

    Quote Originally Posted by BretM69  [View Original Post]
    For a quality therapeutic massage with reliable HE:

    I would not consider Nikki a quality massage. I never rated her massage better than a 5/10 and she also fairly expensive. Soulard Susan would be in a similar camp on massage quality (maybe a 6/10) but at a lower price point. Both are better than a "body rub" but can't compete against a fully therapeutic massage. Sara at YGND could give a half-decent massage but is now gone and the two others I've seen at YGND (Lilia / Tammy) were a little below a therapeutic level. Swansea Mimi seems hit or miss on both quality and HE as well as being expensive.

    For non-Asian: NoCo Kim and Festus Karen are top notch but are on the expensive side and are difficult to initially contact. I haven't seen Faro yet so can't comment but I believe the reviews by other members (e. G. LTB) paint an accurate picture. I haven't seen Eureka Cynthia in a few years but I think she can be tracked down. She and Faro likely fit a similar profile (mature, new age, decent massage, reliable ending). Hazelwood Jenny used to be a reliable option but is apparently MIA and SoCity Jaylee moved last month. WestCounty Lisa is an option but for some reason I haven't gone back in years. I'm sure there are a few deeper UTR people that may work for individual members.

    For Asian: O'Fallon VIP seems fairly reliable if you are ok with the hard 'table' and age / looks or I think it's out to Mt. Vernon if you want something both quality & reliable (and young / attractive). Anything else is either BackPage 'Body Rub' or StL 'AMP' DIY or EastSide play.

    YMMV.

  3. #10545
    Quote Originally Posted by Greg48  [View Original Post]
    Better than Nikki in Clayton?
    For a quality therapeutic massage with reliable HE:

    I would not consider Nikki a quality massage. I never rated her massage better than a 5/10 and she also fairly expensive. Soulard Susan would be in a similar camp on massage quality (maybe a 6/10) but at a lower price point. Both are better than a "body rub" but can't compete against a fully therapeutic massage. Sara at YGND could give a half-decent massage but is now gone and the two others I've seen at YGND (Lilia / Tammy) were a little below a therapeutic level. Swansea Mimi seems hit or miss on both quality and HE as well as being expensive.

    For non-Asian: NoCo Kim and Festus Karen are top notch but are on the expensive side and are difficult to initially contact. I haven't seen Faro yet so can't comment but I believe the reviews by other members (e. G. LTB) paint an accurate picture. I haven't seen Eureka Cynthia in a few years but I think she can be tracked down. She and Faro likely fit a similar profile (mature, new age, decent massage, reliable ending). Hazelwood Jenny used to be a reliable option but is apparently MIA and SoCity Jaylee moved last month. WestCounty Lisa is an option but for some reason I haven't gone back in years. I'm sure there are a few deeper UTR people that may work for individual members.

    For Asian: O'Fallon VIP seems fairly reliable if you are ok with the hard 'table' and age / looks or I think it's out to Mt. Vernon if you want something both quality & reliable (and young / attractive). Anything else is either BackPage 'Body Rub' or StL 'AMP' DIY or EastSide play.

    YMMV.

  4. #10544

    Ella

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovethatbob  [View Original Post]
    As of today, Ella is still on YGND's website. And Lake is pretty prompt on updating her site. Guess we'll know by Monday or Tuesday. Rarely is one of her girls guilty of a no-show or other bad behavior.

    LTB.
    Yesterday, Lake confirmed what we suspected, Ella left on Friday without notice. I am sure there must have been a very good reason for her abrupt decision.

  5. #10543
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    Posts: 118

    Eden Spa

    Hadn't been to the Eden Spa on Manchester for a couple of years. Back when they were strictly legit. Stopped by the other night since all I wanted was a good massage. They still have the "no erotic or illegal activities" sign up. I could tell while still under the towel that the massage would be sensual. After the towel came off the sensual increased until it turned erotic with her reaching under. After the flip the erotic continued. Even got to suck on some nice nips. Gave a $40 tip for a good massage and left happy.

  6. #10542

    Alternative view

    Quote Originally Posted by RubDowninstl  [View Original Post]
    DIY and even that is hit or miss.
    As a fan of KimJoe's, as you can see in my post history, I have different take. Granted, DIY may not be your cup of tea, but in my experience everything that leads up to those last few minutes at the finish, and including help given during the DIY, is as good or better than any other provider I have visited. It has improved, and continues to improve, over time as I repeat, including earlier today. The limits of DIY are pushed. I know exactly what I'm going to get and how much it is going to cost, and I appreciate that reliability. I know some enjoy the hit or miss, slot machine aspect of other places that can include some costly disappointments. I'm not knocking that, to each his own. YMMV.

  7. #10541

    Ella

    Quote Originally Posted by Stlconnoisseur  [View Original Post]
    Ella was a no show for my appointment this week. Sounds like she is no longer working with YGND. Anyone know if she left the business or just left YGND.
    As of today, Ella is still on YGND's website. And Lake is pretty prompt on updating her site. Guess we'll know by Monday or Tuesday. Rarely is one of her girls guilty of a no-show or other bad behavior.

    LTB.

  8. #10540

    Kim joes

    Quote Originally Posted by DgFitter  [View Original Post]
    Anyone been to Lee's Kimjoe Massage in Florissant?
    DIY and even that is hit or miss.

  9. #10539

    Ella

    Ella was a no show for my appointment this week. Sounds like she is no longer working with YGND. Anyone know if she left the business or just left YGND.

  10. #10538

    Reasonable massage

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg48  [View Original Post]
    Better than Nikki in Clayton?
    You could always go for Lisa around Westport ($20 add-on fee for the happy face). Not a bad massage, but then you'd have to listen to all her world view crap. My preference would be Nikki: she'd be late, the massage would be a 6 on a 0-10 scale, and the ending would be both vigorous and pleasing. Additionally it would all be a safe, discrete and very clean. Just hit me: how about Faro on south Kingshighway? Great, relaxing massage and a very interesting release. Older and you smell like all the incense, but cheap and reliable. PS: no add-ons (she plays for the other team. No, not the Cubs!).

  11. #10537
    Quote Originally Posted by DgFitter  [View Original Post]
    Anyone been to Lee's Kimjoe Massage in Florissant?
    Waste of time.

  12. #10536

    Harmony Massage

    Has anyone been having any luck at this place? I am thinking about going tonight, but want a sure thing. Been to VIP, just looking for a change.

  13. #10535
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveDDs  [View Original Post]
    Just thought I'd ad a comment on here too.

    I have the opportunity to see Heather of Ana's group. I found several reviews of her on TER and decided to stop for a visit.

    Everything during the session was as expected. She is absolutely stunning. Just gorgeous. Her personality is wonderful. Full body rub. Top comes off first. Wow just an amazing perfect wonderfully formed body rubbing all over me.

    Then bottom comes off for a very nice full body rub and HE finish. FS was not available but that was OK as the rest was out of this world. I loved it.

    But the wheels fell off. First the donation mentioned on the other site for a hhr was wrong (or old) so I brought what the other site said the donation was, plus 25 extra for a tip. Thankfully when I found out the donation was more, I had the extra 20 needed for the hhr rate. All was good so far. But I only had 5 left for a tip, so, concerned that might insult her, I did not leave anything extra.

    After I left I sent her a text thanking her for a wonderful time and giving her as much compliment as I could. She replies - "you didn't like the massage?" I assured her I did. What followed was 10 or 15 text messages from her telling me how cheap I was and how unappreciative I was and the girls don't work for free. I tried to explain what happened and offered to return with extra tip because I had such a great time, but then the attitude started. It got a bit unpleasant. I tried very hard to accommodate, to compliment, to return and bring a tip back, but she was just giving me attitude by this point. I just went silent and let it go.

    I would have returned to see her again and some of the others too. But not after that. I should have tipped but did not have what needed due to bad info. But I didn't like dealing with the attitude so I'm not going back. Like I said my $0. 02.
    As with most 'agencies' I would bet you communicated with the booker / boss and not Heather. I would be very careful what you put in texts. If you got more than a HE, and the booker is not aware the girl is providing more, you might get the girl fired. In addition, if the booker / boss, is getting a cut of what they make and you offer up that you paid the girl more, the person you text might ask the girl for more money. Once you set the appointment, what you do with the girl is between you and her alone, no one else (outside reviews).

    A couple other things:

    1) The girls are 'independent contractors' using the agency to handle the stuff they are never good at, scheduling appointments.

    2) One of the other reasons that these girls use a booker / agency is because they don't want guys texting them all the time. If they wanted that, they would handing out their personal numbers after each session.

  14. #10534

    Nikki

    Quote Originally Posted by BretM69  [View Original Post]
    Fart. The closest reliable option I know of for good quality massage with HE is in Mt. Vernon. I stopped by a couple of months ago and definitely wish it was closer. The two attendants were also above average as far as age and appearance compared to anything in STL. You can find a little more info posted in the Illinois board.
    Better than Nikki in Clayton?

  15. #10533

    Professional Massage + HE

    Quote Originally Posted by FartCity  [View Original Post]
    That is correct, but they're the same kind of service you get on the east side. Basically an in-and-out brothel.
    I'm talking about a legit professional massage with HE.
    Fart. The closest reliable option I know of for good quality massage with HE is in Mt. Vernon. I stopped by a couple of months ago and definitely wish it was closer. The two attendants were also above average as far as age and appearance compared to anything in STL. You can find a little more info posted in the Illinois board.

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