Massage Parlor Reports

[Chance 62]

I'm not surprised that Lena lives with the mamasan. Odds are that Lena entered the USA on a tourist visa with airfare paid by the mamasan with an understanding of the services to be rendered. The package deal normally would include room and board in addition to the compensation. That's why you see the turnover of staff at this place. The visas probably expired.

In the case of these woman it's unlikely they were trafficked in the traditional sense. Most likely these are women who worked in the sex trade in China and just got too old to make much money there.

True sex traffickers deal with young women who often don't know what they're getting into. (And if I can make an editorial comment, deserve a special place in hell.).

We should treat all the women well. They're just trying to make a living.

All of the girls live there, but not inside they are in the back with their own section.

[IDontKnow21]

Back after trying the real relationship thing. Hahaha. Looking to get back in. I see C&C is closed. Do they have a new place? Did Angie from Broadway #4 ever turn up anywhere. I see F&C is still going. Hahah Thanks for any help.

[ChrisPoontang]

As you can read I've been enjoying this hobby for a number of years but yesterday was a first. Scheduled an hour appointment with a veteran provider that I've known for years. About 20 minutes into the session someone came into the lobby. Since she was the only one working at the time she went to answer.

A couple of minutes later she came back and asked if it was OK to take a five minute break from our session. Since I was in no hurry I said OK.

Seems she has this deal with "some Mexicans" (her words, not mine) and for $20 she gave the guy a quick HJ. She thanked me and said business had been real slow and she could use the extra cash.

In some circumstances I'd be unhappy but I actually found it somewhat amusing.

Hopefully she washed her hands.

I'd hate to think that she finished you with still warm jizz all over her hands.

[DutchTreat]

This story always cracks me up! I think that it's awesome that you were able remain cool during the unexpected intermission and see the humor in what was actually happening. I would have done the same thing. I mean, you just can't make this shit up! LOL.

Dutch.

As you can read I've been enjoying this hobby for a number of years but yesterday was a first. Scheduled an hour appointment with a veteran provider that I've known for years. About 20 minutes into the session someone came into the lobby. Since she was the only one working at the time she went to answer.

A couple of minutes later she came back and asked if it was OK to take a five minute break from our session. Since I was in no hurry I said OK.

Seems she has this deal with "some Mexicans" (her words, not mine) and for $20 she gave the guy a quick HJ. She thanked me and said business had been real slow and she could use the extra cash.

In some circumstances I'd be unhappy but I actually found it somewhat amusing.

[Caribe]

I'm not surprised that Lena lives with the mamasan. Odds are that Lena entered the USA on a tourist visa with airfare paid by the mamasan with an understanding of the services to be rendered. The package deal normally would include room and board in addition to the compensation. That's why you see the turnover of staff at this place. The visas probably expired.

In the case of these woman it's unlikely they were trafficked in the traditional sense. Most likely these are women who worked in the sex trade in China and just got too old to make much money there.

True sex traffickers deal with young women who often don't know what they're getting into. (And if I can make an editorial comment, deserve a special place in hell.).

We should treat all the women well. They're just trying to make a living.

True they enter the US by plane with a tourist visa. The visa is just a foot in the door. Most of them have The visa is just a foot in the door.

False, they all don't go back when their Visa expires. Most of them don't intend on going back, expired Visa or not. There are some AAMP girls that stay for the length of the Visa to make some quick cask.

True, most of them are brought over by legitimate, in the home country, organizations that will arrange plane trip and provide an intermediary who will arrange work for them. Anything from restaurant work nanny positions to massage. The entire package it's financed by the individual, male or female. The organization does not pay for any of it.

False, Mamasan or any owner doesn't arrange a package deal. Most of them come over here on their own. They work with the organizations in the home country to get themselves over here. The intermediary and the mamasans and papasans discuss the possibility of employment.

True, some girls live in residences provided by the owner. F&C is like several other shops that provide a residence for the girls. The residence is not free and it is not part of a work package. They pay monthly. Some residences are nothing more than a house, condo or apartment divided up into many curtained cubicles. Very similar to Chinese "guest houses" that are abundant in the SGV. I've seen some of these guest houses. It's amazing how many people they can pack into a two bedroom apartment or condo. And it's also amazing how there's a definite lack of cleanliness in these set ups. F&C has an arrangement that is very different from the guesthouse arrangement.

True, these girls are not forced into doing things. Most of them decide this way is the best way to make a lot of money in a short amount of time. Some of them get hooked on the amount of money that they make. Others are happy to be back in the money doing what they are doing. Then there are some that have higher aspirations. This is just a way to finance those dreams.

False, most of these girls were not in the sex industry in their home country. Most of them were gainfully employed by legitimate companies. Some of them with highly educated or technically trained backgrounds. Because they are undocumented and most of them cannot speak English, their ability to place themselves in a high paying position equal to the one they left in their home country is next to nil. Some of them take care of their familes in the old country. They send whatever they make to their families. Some of them, like Anna from F&C, did it to put their kids through university.

With China actively in promoting English in their schools, it will be interesting to see what the future crop of providers will be like. In the next five years will be seeing the products of the Chinese school system with a decent command of the English language. Actually, with better ability to speak English than most Americans.x

[Jon Jones]

I'm not surprised that Lena lives with the mamasan. Odds are that Lena entered the USA on a tourist visa with airfare paid by the mamasan with an understanding of the services to be rendered. The package deal normally would include room and board in addition to the compensation. That's why you see the turnover of staff at this place. The visas probably expired.

In the case of these woman it's unlikely they were trafficked in the traditional sense. Most likely these are women who worked in the sex trade in China and just got too old to make much money there.

True sex traffickers deal with young women who often don't know what they're getting into. (And if I can make an editorial comment, deserve a special place in hell.).

We should treat all the women well. They're just trying to make a living.

Lena came out of the door all nicely dressed with her bags and lunch. I still can't believe Lena lives with mamasan. I wonder who that white man was and how they are all related.

[PhineasPhreak]

Okay folks here is a review about my third visit to F&C. I woke up this morning at 7 am and decided to call F&C knowing that it was closed. To my surprised mamasan picked up the phone. I asked if they were open and she was mumbling "uh uh uh". I said "It's okay I can come later" then she asked "what time?" I thought I should try and say "right now" which I did. She responded "I'm at home, you pick up?" In my mind I was like did I hear that right? ............

Friggin' hilarious, especially the small details, such as the wig. Such a bizarre adventure.

[HapaBoy86]

Coming from TN its looking like it's going to be a challenge to find an AMP on HX without references. Can I just walk in to one of these places and get service?

Yes, just walk into a AMP and you don't need refs. Do your homework first! Check out rubma*s.

[YoungSexSeeker]

Coming from TN its looking like it's going to be a challenge to find an AMP on HX without references. Can I just walk in to one of these places and get service?

[LoveTheOC]

Welcome to the real world of F& C. LOL.

That's standard operating procedure for early morning appointments. MMS never has her wig in the morning. All the girls live at that house.

Also if she spit out, she doesn't love you! LOL.

[Fe Maiden]

I was at an MP in LF that I had not tried before. Got this okay looking petite gal named Coco. She started right away with the light feather touch and was doing some great work around my ass and my now very hard unit. I really had to pee and she took me to the bathroom. Came back out and she was talking to another gal. I went back to the room and laid down and in comes the other gal Tina. Well she was not quite as good and said Coco had an appointment with someone who called. Tina got the job done but Coco was much more sensual. Which one of you guys took Coco away from me? I'll call and make an appointment with her next time.

[Wireless91910]

That's standard operating procedure for early morning appointments. MMS never has her wig in the morning. All the girls live at that house.

Also if she spit out, she doesn't love you! LOL.

Okay folks here is a review about my third visit to F&C. I woke up this morning at 7 am and decided to call F&C knowing that it was closed. To my surprised mamasan picked up the phone. I asked if they were open and she was mumbling "uh uh uh". I said "It's okay I can come later" then she asked "what time?" I thought I should try and say "right now" which I did. She responded "I'm at home, you pick up?" In my mind I was like did I hear that right? I then asked "I come now to pick you up?" She said "Come at 8" and I said "Okay you text me address". About 5 minutes later she texted me a picture of an envelope that has someone's name and address on it. I don't know whose name it was nor will I say what the name is. All I will say is that the name is a Vietnamese name which surprised me since I'm 99% positive mamasan is Chinese. Anyway, at 8 I went to the address and parked my car a few houses down and texted her. She came out and the first thing I noticed was her bald head. I drove up right outside the driveway and pulled my window down. She stood there and stared at me then said "You call?" I nodded and she came to my window and said "40 okay?" In my mind I thought of only 2 scenarios:

1. Mamasan lets me in and I give her. 4.

2. I drive her to F&C then I give her. 4.

I was confused because she didn't seem ready (she was in pajamas and no wig) so I didn't want to hand her the money just yet.

She asked "You give me 40 ok?" a few times and one then one of her neighbor who was doing yard work heard a slight commotion and thought there was a problem. He approached us with both of his hands raised to show that he was of no harm. He asked her "Is everything okay" then mamasan said "it's okay. " I freaked out a bit so I just handed her. 4 and then she yelled "LENA!" a few times. Lena came out of the door all nicely dressed with her bags and lunch. As she was walking toward my car I saw a white man between 45-55 coming out of their house. He stood in front of the door and watches us leave. She got in my car and I drove off. I looked at my mirror and saw the neighbor still standing on the street besides mamasan, both watching us as we drove off. This was a weird and kind of terrifying experience for me. I almost hit the gas when the neighbor approached us. Anyway I literally thought mamasan was the one who was offering the service LOL. We arrived at F&C at 8:15 and Lena opened the door. I've seen her once so this is my second time seeing her. Because we were alone, she didn't rush anything. We started with a back massage for half hour then the fun began right after when I flipped. I didn't bring a bag so she offered one to me. Unfortunately jim wouldn't get up with the bag on so she ended up throwing it out. She started with a BBBJ and moved to DT. Even though she gagged quite a bit she continued to give me a DT for a good 10 minutes. She was really messy. Her spit was all over me and she went on to lick my nipples, belly button, sack, and all around. I was literally soaked in her pool of saliva. She hopped on for bbcg and since nobody was in here she wasn't afraid to moan very loud. She was really wet and tight. She was jumping up and down on me for a good 3 or so minutes then she came. We cuddled for a bit then she went back to BBBJ again. She kept saying how she really loves to suck it. Both of my balls went in her mouth and she sucked on them pretty good too. We finished with BBBJCIM no swallow. She spit the load on my stomach and rubbed her body all over it. It was really really messy. Never knew she likes it this dirty. During the cuddle she whispered to me to tip her a benjamin. I ended up tipping her. 9 since that was all the cash I had in my wallet. Everything lasted for about an hour. She hugged me and told me to go home take a hot shower, come back in 2 weeks, I love to kiss, and I love you. I left the door around 9:15. Don't know if I'm going to come back. She must have memorized my face since I drove her. I intended to tip her. 4 which I'm assuming is the usual you guys tip her. Now she's going to want more from me from now on. That's my morning story folks. I still can't believe Lena lives with mamasan. I wonder who that white man was and how they are all related.

[Its Crazy]

If you want some good reading about what exactly LE can do with a review site such as this, Google "thereviewboard Seattle". There's a lot more to it than just reviews, but info can be gathered and used.

I hope this post doesn't break any rules about advertising competitors seeing as how the site involved has been seized and shut down.

Ok, I'll respond. LE didn't do anything because of the review board, the review board got seized because one of the guys running it boasted about being a human trafficker and and he fucking was.

They have a term for your argument here, it's called a false analogy. Our actions in regards to this forum can most certainly be used against us, the operators of this forum. What you post here cannot be used against you because who the fuck is "Its Crazy?" Is that the name on your drivers license? Does your birth certificate say "Its Crazy?" How EXACTLY can your info be gathered and used? They can't get it from us because we don't collect any info about our members beyond an email address. We have no names, no addresses, no phone numbers, no IP information, we collect nothing. Where EXACTLY would they get that? From our web hosting company? That's a German company, is so Orange County DA going to serve an international warrant under the Hague Conventions to try and secure a misdemeanor conviction on one of you guys for solicitation? Because without a warrant the Germans who run our hosting service are going to politly tell them "Tank you bud mitout un varrent I'm zorry bud dad infooorrrrmazun es confidential."

The reviewboards members didn't get busted, its OPERATORS did because of their actions in conjunction to their business.

The Redbook guys went down for facilitation prostitution, again NONE of their members did. The Redbook guys were also in the USA, we are not nor are our servers.

Yes, we, like Larry Flyntt, Lenny Bruce, and others before us take a risk in the work we do and we accept that risk. The membership here, if they are smart enough to use the site as it is intended do not.

A2

PS, for the future, if your yearly post is going to be about telling guys bullshit stories to scare them into not using the site like you don't I'm going to take care of that. We welcome real criticism or commentary but this is horseshit and you aren't really involved in the community.

My intention wasn't to scare anyone into silence or to spread misinformation. After rereading my post, I can see how it could be taken that way. For that, I apologize.

In regards to members not sharing risk, I believe there have been members involved that were caught up in the reviewboard situation. However, this was due to them bragging and giving too much personal info (as you mentioned). My goal was simply to say that people should be careful, which I failed to communicate clearly.

Again, no harm was intended.

Yes, those members created a club and met in reality, they also created a separate site that they used which put them on record of the owners of that site. I appreciate the clarification on your part.

A2

[JollyPk69]

Okay folks here is a review about my third visit to F&C. I woke up this morning at 7 am and decided to call F&C knowing that it was closed. To my surprised mamasan picked up the phone. I asked if they were open and she was mumbling "uh uh uh". I said "It's okay I can come later" then she asked "what time?" I thought I should try and say "right now" which I did. She responded "I'm at home, you pick up?" In my mind I was like did I hear that right? I then asked "I come now to pick you up?" She said "Come at 8" and I said "Okay you text me address". About 5 minutes later she texted me a picture of an envelope that has someone's name and address on it. I don't know whose name it was nor will I say what the name is. All I will say is that the name is a Vietnamese name which surprised me since I'm 99% positive mamasan is Chinese. Anyway, at 8 I went to the address and parked my car a few houses down and texted her. She came out and the first thing I noticed was her bald head. I drove up right outside the driveway and pulled my window down. She stood there and stared at me then said "You call?" I nodded and she came to my window and said "40 okay?" In my mind I thought of only 2 scenarios:

1. Mamasan lets me in and I give her. 4.

2. I drive her to F&C then I give her. 4.

I was confused because she didn't seem ready (she was in pajamas and no wig) so I didn't want to hand her the money just yet.

She asked "You give me 40 ok?" a few times and one then one of her neighbor who was doing yard work heard a slight commotion and thought there was a problem. He approached us with both of his hands raised to show that he was of no harm. He asked her "Is everything okay" then mamasan said "it's okay. " I freaked out a bit so I just handed her. 4 and then she yelled "LENA!" a few times. Lena came out of the door all nicely dressed with her bags and lunch. As she was walking toward my car I saw a white man between 45-55 coming out of their house. He stood in front of the door and watches us leave. She got in my car and I drove off. I looked at my mirror and saw the neighbor still standing on the street besides mamasan, both watching us as we drove off. This was a weird and kind of terrifying experience for me. I almost hit the gas when the neighbor approached us. Anyway I literally thought mamasan was the one who was offering the service LOL. We arrived at F&C at 8:15 and Lena opened the door. I've seen her once so this is my second time seeing her. Because we were alone, she didn't rush anything. We started with a back massage for half hour then the fun began right after when I flipped. I didn't bring a bag so she offered one to me. Unfortunately jim wouldn't get up with the bag on so she ended up throwing it out. She started with a BBBJ and moved to DT. Even though she gagged quite a bit she continued to give me a DT for a good 10 minutes. She was really messy. Her spit was all over me and she went on to lick my nipples, belly button, sack, and all around. I was literally soaked in her pool of saliva. She hopped on for bbcg and since nobody was in here she wasn't afraid to moan very loud. She was really wet and tight. She was jumping up and down on me for a good 3 or so minutes then she came. We cuddled for a bit then she went back to BBBJ again. She kept saying how she really loves to suck it. Both of my balls went in her mouth and she sucked on them pretty good too. We finished with BBBJCIM no swallow. She spit the load on my stomach and rubbed her body all over it. It was really really messy. Never knew she likes it this dirty. During the cuddle she whispered to me to tip her a benjamin. I ended up tipping her. 9 since that was all the cash I had in my wallet. Everything lasted for about an hour. She hugged me and told me to go home take a hot shower, come back in 2 weeks, I love to kiss, and I love you. I left the door around 9:15. Don't know if I'm going to come back. She must have memorized my face since I drove her. I intended to tip her. 4 which I'm assuming is the usual you guys tip her. Now she's going to want more from me from now on. That's my morning story folks. I still can't believe Lena lives with mamasan. I wonder who that white man was and how they are all related.

[Its Crazy]

If you want some good reading about what exactly LE can do with a review site such as this, Google "thereviewboard Seattle". There's a lot more to it than just reviews, but info can be gathered and used.

I hope this post doesn't break any rules about advertising competitors seeing as how the site involved has been seized and shut down.

Ok, I'll respond. LE didn't do anything because of the review board, the review board got seized because one of the guys running it boasted about being a human trafficker and and he fucking was.

They have a term for your argument here, it's called a false analogy. Our actions in regards to this forum can most certainly be used against us, the operators of this forum. What you post here cannot be used against you because who the fuck is "Its Crazy?" Is that the name on your drivers license? Does your birth certificate say "Its Crazy?" How EXACTLY can your info be gathered and used? They can't get it from us because we don't collect any info about our members beyond an email address. We have no names, no addresses, no phone numbers, no IP information, we collect nothing. Where EXACTLY would they get that? From our web hosting company? That's a German company, is so Orange County DA going to serve an international warrant under the Hague Conventions to try and secure a misdemeanor conviction on one of you guys for solicitation? Because without a warrant the Germans who run our hosting service are going to politly tell them "Tank you bud mitout un varrent I'm zorry bud dad infooorrrrmazun es confidential."

The reviewboards members didn't get busted, its OPERATORS did because of their actions in conjunction to their business.

The Redbook guys went down for facilitation prostitution, again NONE of their members did. The Redbook guys were also in the USA, we are not nor are our servers.

Yes, we, like Larry Flyntt, Lenny Bruce, and others before us take a risk in the work we do and we accept that risk. The membership here, if they are smart enough to use the site as it is intended do not.

A2

PS, for the future, if your yearly post is going to be about telling guys bullshit stories to scare them into not using the site like you don't I'm going to take care of that. We welcome real criticism or commentary but this is horseshit and you aren't really involved in the community.