Streetwalker Reports

[MrMisterMan]

Thanks for being generous with your knowledge. Honestly, I didn't intend to scoop that outing. I was trying to follow your and other folks examples and just get a feel for the area. It just clicked that time and. In retrospect. I was probably lucky in some ways. I drove around way too much, could have flagged LE if there was one nearby. And the whole parking lot thing was weird tho she was right in that it was pretty effective in terms of "camouflage". It was just too strange for me. I'm going to keep at it and apply your tips. Thanks.

[Cephlapod Love]

Is it really such a no-no to host at your house? I live close enough time wise but a million miles away in terms of safety. The rules say no but it looks like quite a few guys host so I'm curious. Thanks for the input.

Sure looks like one is new, which is fine, since everyone is new at some point. So a few comments as I think it appropriate to recognize a couple of VERY good moves on your part!

First, sure looks like you read the rules before heading out! HUGE kudos for that as many "think" they know how to do it: after all how hard can it be? So, good that you read the rules and stuck to them! Good job getting an "education" here rather than the street!

Second, I give you props for having an experience and posting it here! Thanks for sharing your experience!

Third, you had a question about mongering techniques and were bold enough to come here and ask the question! Again, props for learning here rather than the streets!

Decided to drive up to the ave on a whim, mostly to scope out the talent.

Hmmm, the "on a whim" comment has my Spidey senses tingling. I recognize that this could just be a word or phrase used so bear with me. However, when I was new I NEVER did anything "on a whim". BEFORE I went out onto the stroll, I reviewed the rules (all 22 plus the 35 below). Therefore the rules were fresh and the excitement got tamped down a bit. I also had a check list of things I would do and not do. Also car keys were separated from house keys, spare key was hidden, valuables removed from my person and the car, only the money I wanted to spend (loose) was in pockets and that distributed between pockets, socks and some emergency funds locked in the glove box. So, for me, nothing about hitting the stroll was accidental or in the spur of the moment.

Technique was good and she was chill but first time nerves and being in a parking lot with lots of street foot traffic got to me.

Now when I started in the hobby, I drove the known strolls over and over again getting a feel for the lay of the land, where the girls were located, what times they were out, who was out, where LE was hiding, what are the traffic patterns, where are the traffic cameras & red light cams and where are potential spots to park for a date! Now maybe my risk tolerance is low as I cruised 3-months (with $4+ gasoline) before making the first scoop. But by then I had more of an education: the safe way. One of the toughest things to do is to manage those nerves & excitement. One is nervous for a reason: it is a safety response. The "training" that one affords them self can go a few ways: learning to ignore nerves (danger signs) or learning to respect them and turn them into useful Spidey senses.

After I dropped her off she met with some guy. Probs bf / handler. But he was nowhere to be seen at first so I guess no funny business from him.

Could have been a dealer. Usually the first stop these girls make after getting some cash is to "cop. " After a few bad situations, I developed a rule that I make clear up front with a girl (as we are driving to a spot). I tell them I will drive and drop them anywhere they wish, but is is one place and one drop! When I was new I got sucked into driving several girls to buy under the guise of, "Oh I have to pick up my cell phone charger", "Oh I have to drop off some money to my cousin" or " I promised my sister I'd come by- I'll only be a minute!" My rule is about no drugs in my car and certainly not going to be part of any "buy. " (see one of my rants on the legal concept of Constructive Possession!..)

So over all, good job on your first outing! Sounds like you had fun, which in the end is the point! Keep learning and enjoying!

Stay safe!

CL
Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

[Cephlapod Love]

Is it really such a no-no to host at your house? I live close enough time wise but a million miles away in terms of safety. The rules say no but it looks like quite a few guys host so I'm curious. Thanks for the input.

What do the rules say & why?

If you go back to your house - are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?

Hey the rules are all about risk management. One is always free to choose which things to ignore and accept the risk that goes with it. (Just don't do it out of ignorance (lack of education) or out of hubris (ego- that will never happen to me) Street girls are not as dumb as one thinks and are aware of their surroundings (survival skill) and with GPS on phones these days, they can have your location in their phone for later use.

So you want a desperate, strung out girl showing up at your house at 3 AM making a huge scene? What if she decides your house is too nice and you should pay more and demands it and if you refuse, runs out in the street screaming "rape" and making a huge scene? You want her to find your real name (if you own), since property records are easily available online? if you rent, you wanna get kicked out of your place when she makes a huge scene with the landlord or property manager? You want her or her associates to visit your house while you are "getting some" next time? After all if you live alone and you are scooping her or her friend, your place is empty.

What might be happening when one is "seeing" a few guys "hosting" is that they are taking her to a 10-spot place or a no-tell. Not too far from the K-Stroll is Le Hotel Carlyle, which for $20-30 one can enjoy a room for a short time. Also IF you trust the girl, she probably knows of a place where for $10 you can "borrow" a room to do business. THAT of course has some risk as she could direct you into a set up. I've dated "nice" girls who were fine one date or several and then all of a sudden pull some BS.

I am sure there are other things I have not thought about or mentioned, but hey, it is all about managing the risk of whatever you do. Just because someone else is taking a certain risk, does that make it right for you? Choose to do something risky and be prepared to accept the consequences and that it is your fault, when something bad happens.

Good luck!

CL
Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

[MrMisterMan]

Is it really such a no-no to host at your house? I live close enough time wise but a million miles away in terms of safety. The rules say no but it looks like quite a few guys host so I'm curious. Thanks for the input.

[Bond 007]

Veronica aka Betty, fresh out of rehab, she's back look for her around Huntington to Sergent.

[MrMisterMan]

Decided to drive up to the ave on a whim, mostly to scope out the talent. Saw Ashley, chubby blonde walking down the ave and turned down Jasper. Did a couple of circuits then approached and asked if she needed a ride. Got in, checked each other and she took me to a parking lot nearby and had a private poetry reading. Technique was good and she was chill but first time nerves and being in a parking lot with lots of street foot traffic got to me. Will probably try again soon; been lurking for a while but now I get the hype. Thanks to the vets. Followed your rules to a T and it served me well. Ashley is probably good for those into thicker gals. Skin looks fine considering (except for what I'm guessing are sun bumps on her chest). After I dropped her off she met with some guy. Probs bf / handler. But he was nowhere to be seen at first so I guess no funny business from him. I have a contact but no reply since texting, more than happy to share.

[Gator145]

Nicho, I may wrong. But sounds like it.

I went to k street around 3 pm today, saw 4-5 WSW there, but most either too old or look scary! I mean so many scar on the body either from drugs use or some kind of infection. Just look really bad!

Almost give up, I saw a blond girl, look clean well dressed, besides some acne on the face, arm leg all look good.

So she jump in, and ask if she can touch me. She is polite, talk so slow. I mean really slow! I thought she either high or used too much drug damage her head. But she insist she did drug before but not any more. She doesn't look like a typical WSW at all. If on another street, I would totally look at her different way.

She told me her story kind of hard to believe. She is 25, have a kid when she was in college, nursing major, drop out because she want to spend more time with kid. She has a bf, engaged. Been together for 6 years, they live together, and plan to get married soon. He works as a computer engineering and make good money. I asked her why she is on the street for 40 dollars sex? It doesn't make any sense to me. But she said she spent too much and don't want to keep asking him, and he doesn't know she is out sometime. So who knows, man. She may be crazy, delusional or something. But her story just so different than other girls told me before and I met many there.

Ok, back to report. Her body is clean, pussy looks good, blow job is so so. Give her some oral, she is not into that. Then sex, change couple position. It is alright.

And she asked me number if we can hangout in the future, her phone is off, and need money to pay the bill. So I gave her Google number.

So this is my report, it is Just wierd!

That sounds like Nicole to me. She likes to walk from Orleans to Clearfield and back. Nicole, if that's her, seems like she took whacky weed seriously and went whacky. She's basically a good person. From my encounters with her she seems quite harmless. YMMV Just, she may have taken an acid trip and missed the turn off and just kept going. As for her story she will have a different story for everyone. She does like to drum up sympathy in her stories. When she's not high she can bang you like a bass drum. She's one of those girls that truly loves anal and any other fantasies one might have. All in all if she's high when you see her she's not much different than the other space cadets. Catch her sober on her way to get high she can be a playground in the park. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[PhillyOneGuy]

Nicho, I may wrong. But sounds like it.

I went to k street around 3 pm today, saw 4-5 WSW there, but most either too old or look scary! I mean so many scar on the body either from drugs use or some kind of infection. Just look really bad!

Almost give up, I saw a blond girl, look clean well dressed, besides some acne on the face, arm leg all look good.

So she jump in, and ask if she can touch me. She is polite, talk so slow. I mean really slow! I thought she either high or used too much drug damage her head. But she insist she did drug before but not any more. She doesn't look like a typical WSW at all. If on another street, I would totally look at her different way.

She told me her story kind of hard to believe. She is 25, have a kid when she was in college, nursing major, drop out because she want to spend more time with kid. She has a bf, engaged. Been together for 6 years, they live together, and plan to get married soon. He works as a computer engineering and make good money. I asked her why she is on the street for 40 dollars sex? It doesn't make any sense to me. But she said she spent too much and don't want to keep asking him, and he doesn't know she is out sometime. So who knows, man. She may be crazy, delusional or something. But her story just so different than other girls told me before and I met many there.

Ok, back to report. Her body is clean, pussy looks good, blow job is so so. Give her some oral, she is not into that. Then sex, change couple position. It is alright.

And she asked me number if we can hangout in the future, her phone is off, and need money to pay the bill. So I gave her Google number.

So this is my report, it is Just wierd!

[Gator145]

Currymonster

A recent Friday had me in town, so figured I could go have me some ho action. I was in South Philly, so drove up S Broad at close to bar closing time to get there initially. With nothing in evidence beyond something zombielike scavenging from trashcans around Passyunk.

Roxanne is a very dangerous girl. She has been out there for a long, long time. I don't recall a good review to date. She used to work from Venango and K with all the rock stars. She lives right down the street before Tioga. Lately she's been working Sedgely and as far as Erie and Torresdale. Most mongers that have been around for any amount of time know what a bad date she can be. Health wise she is also very sick. I can't say here what the condition is. PM me and I will fill you in.

A few years back she would team up with Crazy Katie and see how many guys they could rob at night. Specifically Friday and Saturday nights. If there's a number one priority of girls to avoid, then it's her.

Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[Currymonster]

A recent Friday had me in town, so figured I could go have me some ho action. I was in South Philly, so drove up S Broad at close to bar closing time to get there initially. With nothing in evidence beyond something zombielike scavenging from trashcans around Passyunk. Lots of LEO there though. Once to the K it was very quiet, saw maybe 1 girl hurrying down southwards around Cumberland or so, then nothing until after Somerset. No LEO really in evidence. Saw a hot looking Emo girl on corner of Allegheny, should have turned and stopped there but didn't. Eventually settled on a girl by I St, took her to my spot (should have read the problem signs of "so far?" when going less than 5 minutes away). She says she's Roxanne, and been out on and off 15 years. Great I thought, has learned what gets us happy and on our way quickly. But no (she likes that word), allowed her the usual fee up front (have decided it's easier to comply with this if you've taken them far enough from the stroll that it's easier for them to do the job for the ride back than to bail), she took 2 sucks and decided she's too dope sick to do anything. RTFF, and could be this girl reported years ago http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...l=1#post953414, don't remember her being noticeably tall, but the attitude sounded about right. If it's her, she's a lot skinnier now. Even had the audacity after I finally got done to badger for closer to her spot drop off. (I told her "OK, I can just come over your face". "No, I've got makeup on and if I wipe it off they'll see my pockmarks". So finally got her pants off and unloaded over her butt.) Guess I was due a K disappointment, have had pretty reliable action there for past few years.

On the way out, found Milly. She's 35 but pretty new to it "why I got to 35 and then got onto dope, I don't know". Skills not great, attitude is fine, and we had an interesting chat at least. But I was asking a bit much of myself to complete a second time so quickly. Will not learn I'm not 18 anymore.

So, avoid Roxanne. Milly you'll probably find OK if you don't need an incredible DT to swallow experience to get there.

[Wijcw]

Went out and to check out the local talent. Kennsington north there were a few out. Nothing great. Met this white girl skinny thing she was nice. Went down the street for a quicky. She says she swallows but then stops at the end and expects it to just finish. WTF! Forget her name, dark curly hair tied up on her head. Wouldn't do any business with her again, you don't stop at the end and just block it with your tongue. I didn't even say thanks. Just told her okay walk back from here which was just down the street.

Saw a few others but was tired. Will go back tomorrow and try someone else.

[Cephlapod Love]

Did you learn from the group as well or did you learn for hard knocks?

No problem. I think the guys here are VERY willing to share info on Hobbying techniques. I think it is a way to pay forward!

Me? When I started as a Hobby newbie I was SCARED! Didn't want a reputation or getting caught. So, when I found this site I used it and the kind mongers. First, I read EVERY post in the threads in my area! That gave me an idea where to look, who was out there, menus, prices and where LE might be found. Then I started driving the stroll with a "window shopping only" mentality. I think I did that for 3-months (and 6 tanks of $4 gas) before making my first scoop. Plenty of times I saw what I thought was a girl but knew I needed more education. While reading the threads and cruising, I came back here and asked dumb rookie questions (actually the only dumb question is the one NOT asked!) The Gents here were kind enough to share their views, opinions and experiences. Such a wealth of information, but I am always surprised how many don't take advantage of it.

Shoot I was so green in the beginning that one time I saw a girl on a pay phone at a gas station on a known stroll. I thought she might be available but wasn't sure. I posted the situation on the threads and kind guys gave me excellent guidance! Another time I had some trouble with a girl and got good guidance and help!

It was this site that taught me about using a burner phone and a GV number as a hobbying tool. First started with a flip phone that had a key pad only, so texting one had to hit certain numbers 3 times in order to get the right letter. AND there was no auto spelling correction!

So yeah, I owe a lot to reading the threads and the advice from others here. I still read threads and am still finding ideas and techniques I can use to improve my game. The streets are constantly changing so I think adapt or "die" is appropriate.

Now that said, the street will ALWAYS teach you a lesson or two! No way around it. Since we are dealing with desperate people, in desperate situations and no one can 100% I'd trouble that may get into your car or mail box. But the key is to learn as much as possible so that when the Street decides to teach you a lesson, one can avoid it or make sure the lesson is a small one.

Shoot last year I had a girl do the cash & dash thing on me. The first time that happened to me a girl got the entire poetry reading fee from me. This time the girl left collateral (which turned out to be worthless) and only got a small fraction of the fee. (see my comments on Rule of 5 ths, something I learned from a dude here) No matter how educated one gets, there is always something to be learned: one way or another!

So the point is that we are always learning. If you let your guard down or get horny and ignore the rules the Street is always glad to teach you a lesson or two!

Hope we see you back here posting: asking questions and reporting on what was found!

Good luck hunting!

CL.
Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

[SoulProvider]

We can't do it for you and one needs to work on an "education. " Two ways to do that: A) School of Hard Knocks. The streets will teach lessons, or B) Some "book leaning" by reading, watching & asking for help here.
CL.

Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

I feel that you, and many of the other vets, have got out of your way to educate us newbies.

This group has been around for years, and has good info.

Did you learn from the group as well or did you learn for hard knocks?

[Cephlapod Love]

Wanted to know were can I go to find me some action.

Am new in town from florida live on the south philly any one.

Can help me out thanks.

We can't do it for you and one needs to work on an "education. " Two ways to do that: A) School of Hard Knocks. The streets will teach lessons, or B) Some "book learning" by reading, watching & asking for help here.

1. Go to the Main Philly page and scroll down to the User Blog section, see if you can find the thread with maps.

2. THEN do a search in YouTube for "Busted: A Citizen's Guide to. " watch the first 20-min of that video 3-times until you have the info down cold! When you are stopped is no time to try to "remember" what was in the video. Cops are trained to trip you up, why wouldn't you get trained to avoid that?

3. Read 6-months or more of threads in whatever style of Mongering suits you: AMPs, SW's, Escorts, CL, BP, etc. I know "history is boring" but one CAN learn from it or get taught "experientially" by Law Enforcement, rip-off girls or the street in general. You decide.

4. Come back here and ask basic questions on monger techniques. Recently we had a dude show up that had been busted. He had not seen "the rules" and just did it like the movies. Once he saw the rules, he better understood the hobby. So "get wised up" or get busted!

Oh, and now that 3 dudes have helped you, please report your experiences.

Good luck!

CL.

Mongering looks easy, good, consistently safe mongering is anything but easy!

[Enveed05]

Link to the 22 rules is right on the front page. Left side in the hot links section.

And here's a link. 19 rules immediately following the 22 rules.


http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/cu...MongeringRules

22 Rules for Street Mongering.

19 Rules for Street Walkers.

Streetwalker Rules by Piker.

22 Rules for Street Mongering.

1. IS SHE WORKING? - It ain't like in the movies -They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.

2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!

3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.

4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.

5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.

6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.

7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy! - then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.

8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!

9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!

10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.

11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!

12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you), be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.

13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.

14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!

15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.).

16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?

17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.

18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ, 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more" - the word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it! And they deserve a break.

19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30 am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.

20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.

And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means, "I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.

21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your # - which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.

22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.

As always Play Safe. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.