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  1. #6455
    Today I met a hispanic girl named Sabrina on the K. She is about 5'4 with blue highlights in here hair. As we were on our date, she was able to rob me of my wallet and almost my cell phone. The only was I was able to retrieve my cell phone because it drop from the side. I didn't notice my wallet until 20 min after I left the area. Even though I read the forums about roaming hands, I was not paying attention. I had it good for so long, that I let my guard down.

  2. #6454

    Rachel funny you should ask

    Quote Originally Posted by SoulProvider  [View Original Post]
    I've been reading the post on this site and have learned a LOT. I still have a lot of questions and will continue to read and learn. I've been more of a Strip club monger-er (sp?) than a BP or a SW one, although I've tired them both.

    The #22 rules are extremely helpful. But not as much as the personal stories, good or bad. So Thank You for all the knowledge and help gents.

    And if I've learned one thing, it's that I've definitely been over paying. I've been gone for about a year, has anyone seen a girl name Rachel recent? I will post an attachment later.
    Now which of the three Rachels that work out there are you referring to. The one that works Letterly the punk rockin little bundle of fun or the other one? Just asking so I can maybe assist. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

  3. #6453
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesGlia  [View Original Post]
    Now that I read all your comments, I am thinking to myself. WTF was I thinking. I clearly was just wanting to get off but screwed up in more ways than 1. I still feel new to this and I know I probably got caught up in the moment because the third time, she was not my intention, she was a hopeful fallback. I don't know the area well but was looking for the punk rock gal, after about 45 minutes of not finding her, or really anyone and seeing way too many LEO's. I texted Nikki. She was ready, I was a few minutes away and needed some relief but I did totally screw up on many fronts. IN FACT, her location is really a trap of all traps if anyone has ever been there. I guess if I meet her again, I will ask for car fun and see if she obliges. She told me she already had a paid vacation of sorts so maybe she does not want to go away again. I appreciate your comments, it has awakened me to my stupidity.
    LOL! I hear ya! Like I say mongering looks easy, consistently good, safe mongering is anything but easy.

    But hey, glad you got the chance to learn here rather than the streets or the "school of hard knocks!" It is tough to learn how to hold the little head back until the Big head is satisfied. I guess a few dangerous experiences helped train me in that regard. But like Gator145, every time I go out, I don't always make a connection. Sometimes the menu is bare and sometimes the risk too high. But I have learned it is better to go home frustrated, rather than going home frustrated and hurt, ripped off or with a Court case.

    Keep reading and studying and LEARNING about mongering. Share your experiences and ask questions if you want!

    Stay safe!

  4. #6452

    A Quick Noob Thank you

    I've been reading the post on this site and have learned a LOT. I still have a lot of questions and will continue to read and learn. I've been more of a Strip club monger-er (sp?) than a BP or a SW one, although I've tired them both.

    The #22 rules are extremely helpful. But not as much as the personal stories, good or bad. So Thank You for all the knowledge and help gents.

    And if I've learned one thing, it's that I've definitely been over paying. I've been gone for about a year, has anyone seen a girl name Rachel recent? I will post an attachment later.

  5. #6451

    Just a heads up

    This is just a heads up. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/at...9&d=1274234400.

    If the link doesn't work go to Rip Off Reports. Look for Danielle. There's only 8 photos there so she will be easy to find.
    Any way she's back in the area. I personally have not had any issues with her. Others here have. I dated her a few years ago.
    So when there's a ripoff report I say to myself why risk it.
    She doesn't look the same as she's a bit older now. But a real hard look will tell you its her. My thought is old habits die hard.
    She's back working the same area she worked a way back when. Tioga up to Venango and then up to Sedgeley. Maybe there's other guys here that remember her and can enlighten the rest of us
    just what her issues are.
    No matter be forewarned that this girl has history with many here. My advice would be to leave this one alone.
    Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator

  6. #6450

    Nikki

    Quote Originally Posted by CephlapodLove  [View Original Post]
    Hey, thanks for the report! I dunno dude, some of the things you state are such that I would NEVER seek her out if this is the case. But several things here are instructive as ways to look at risk, so no offense intended - just some comments.

    the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event

    Eh, this is bad but NOT totally fatal. However, if you gave her money up front so she could get her drugs, then that is a problem. I have done that before and the girl disappears, never to return. I would NEVER allow a girl to buy dope (or any drugs) in my presence. Period. Drug charges are felonies that don't go away easily and being there puts you at risk of getting arrested too. Doesn't matter if you didn't hand any money to a dealer, Cops CAN and will arrest you and let the courts sort it out. That amigo is just too risky for me personally.

    The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from.

    WTF! For me this is a BIG red flag! HUGE! Any time I monger I realize I am the only one able to watch my back, so I always have a free & clear escape route. I never go into a situation where there is no easy exit and if that means not doing a date, then so be it. Safety to me is more important than any nut.

    There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact.

    OMG! Adding any dude or dudes into the mix, is for me a non-starter. A girl I can usually control, but a third party, especially a guy can mean serious trouble. But guys I can not make eye contact with? For me that is like a dog showing its belly- it demonstrates I am looking down in their presence and as such suggesting their superiority and my weakness. Now I know my limitations when it comes to street smarts, but that seems like something I wouldn't do. If I can't look a dude in the eye and give a head nod of mutual acceptance, I am out! If I had seen that I would have bounced, immediately.

    So here you have two different styles of managing risk. Point is that I wasn't there, but to me it looks like more risk than I would want to take. Each monger needs to recognize potential risk and evaluate their ability to and willingness to handle situations if "things go bad. " Clearly this dude has a different risk tolerance structure than I do.

    I'm just sayin'.


    maybe there are methods for managing the risks I noted? methods or techniques that I am missing? I'd be interested to learn anything, as we are constantly learning in this hobby.
    Now that I read all your comments, I am thinking to myself. WTF was I thinking. I clearly was just wanting to get off but screwed up in more ways than 1. I still feel new to this and I know I probably got caught up in the moment because the third time, she was not my intention, she was a hopeful fallback. I don't know the area well but was looking for the punk rock gal, after about 45 minutes of not finding her, or really anyone and seeing way too many LEO's. I texted Nikki. She was ready, I was a few minutes away and needed some relief but I did totally screw up on many fronts. IN FACT, her location is really a trap of all traps if anyone has ever been there. I guess if I meet her again, I will ask for car fun and see if she obliges. She told me she already had a paid vacation of sorts so maybe she does not want to go away again. I appreciate your comments, it has awakened me to my stupidity.

  7. #6449

    Nikki Stay Away

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesGlia  [View Original Post]
    I did try to be as careful as possible and I could see a real difference in her and that was only about after a 4 week period. In fact, the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event. That is the first time someone did that in front of me, freaked me out but I could not leave. The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from. Does the mom work the crowd too? There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact. I would agree, her addiction is more rampant and that is just based on her change in appearance and change in her disregard for the money she would take.
    Way to crazy. She has be seen seen yelling and screaming in public at others in BROAD daylight. Heavily addicted at the moment. Does BB with almost anyone. I doubt she will be on the street much longer. Stay Away.

  8. #6448

    Risk Tolerance - Know your limits

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesGlia  [View Original Post]
    I did try to be as careful as possible and I could see a real difference in her and that was only about after a 4 week period. In fact, the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event. That is the first time someone did that in front of me, freaked me out but I could not leave. The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from. Does the mom work the crowd too? There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact. I would agree, her addiction is more rampant and that is just based on her change in appearance and change in her disregard for the money she would take.
    Hey, thanks for the report! I dunno dude, some of the things you state are such that I would NEVER seek her out if this is the case. But several things here are instructive as ways to look at risk, so no offense intended - just some comments.

    the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event

    Eh, this is bad but NOT totally fatal. However, if you gave her money up front so she could get her drugs, then that is a problem. I have done that before and the girl disappears, never to return. I would NEVER allow a girl to buy dope (or any drugs) in my presence. Period. Drug charges are felonies that don't go away easily and being there puts you at risk of getting arrested too. Doesn't matter if you didn't hand any money to a dealer, Cops CAN and will arrest you and let the courts sort it out. That amigo is just too risky for me personally.

    The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from.

    WTF! For me this is a BIG red flag! HUGE! Any time I monger I realize I am the only one able to watch my back, so I always have a free & clear escape route. I never go into a situation where there is no easy exit and if that means not doing a date, then so be it. Safety to me is more important than any nut.

    There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact.

    OMG! Adding any dude or dudes into the mix, is for me a non-starter. A girl I can usually control, but a third party, especially a guy can mean serious trouble. But guys I can not make eye contact with? For me that is like a dog showing its belly- it demonstrates I am looking down in their presence and as such suggesting their superiority and my weakness. Now I know my limitations when it comes to street smarts, but that seems like something I wouldn't do. If I can't look a dude in the eye and give a head nod of mutual acceptance, I am out! If I had seen that I would have bounced, immediately.

    So here you have two different styles of managing risk. Point is that I wasn't there, but to me it looks like more risk than I would want to take. Each monger needs to recognize potential risk and evaluate their ability to and willingness to handle situations if "things go bad. " Clearly this dude has a different risk tolerance structure than I do.

    I'm just sayin'.


    maybe there are methods for managing the risks I noted? methods or techniques that I am missing? I'd be interested to learn anything, as we are constantly learning in this hobby.

  9. #6447

    22 Rules for Street Mongering

    Quote Originally Posted by Bond007  [View Original Post]
    Her addiction in high gear, keep a hand on your wallet!
    EXACTLY! Rules #17 and #18 should be ingrained in every monger.

    http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/cu...MongeringRules

  10. #6446

    Nikki and Mom

    Quote Originally Posted by Bond007  [View Original Post]
    Her addiction in high gear, keep a hand on your wallet!
    I did try to be as careful as possible and I could see a real difference in her and that was only about after a 4 week period. In fact, the first time I went to her place she needed to medicate herself just before the main event. That is the first time someone did that in front of me, freaked me out but I could not leave. The setup of their apartment is not an easy one to just leave from. Does the mom work the crowd too? There were two guys there that I am told were her boyfriends but I tried not to make eye contact. I would agree, her addiction is more rampant and that is just based on her change in appearance and change in her disregard for the money she would take.

  11. #6445

    Nikki and Mom

    Her addiction in high gear, keep a hand on your wallet!

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesGlia  [View Original Post]
    I had met this girl first off backpage (she is the girl in the pics) just not as refined in real life as her pics. I think she has slipped a little but is still a nice find. Then I also found her walking as well on the street that runs parallel to Kensington (I think its Jasper). Initial fee when I met her off BP was 60 for 30 minutes. Then when I picked her up off the street it was a down and dirty 20 for bbjcim with spit. However, she took me back to her place each time, where her mom lives. She has a nice body, small a cup tits and nice ass. I did see her a third time and she is still fun to see. http://philadelphia.backpage.com/Fem...emale/29814457 This is her latest ad. In the pics, she is very sweet, in real life she is not as kept up. I will see her again as she is fun but I am not a fan of going into her place as her moms boyfriends were there and I was not expecting that the third time I saw her but at least I was not in my car having fun. I think her real name is Nicole. This dream happened this past weekend and prior. Sorry for not reporting timely . Anyone else see her before?

  12. #6444

    Nikki

    Quote Originally Posted by CephlapodLove  [View Original Post]
    Good for you! You found a girl on the street and instead of paying BP rates, paid street rates!

    Now that said. I guess I have been around this game too long, but looking at those pictures I would have pegged that girl as a SW from the get-go. She just has that "look." Would not be surprised if she isn't in CJ's gallery either.

    But hey that is the game, some dude sees a girl on the street has a nice time with her, and tells her she doesn't charge enough and should go on BP. Of course then he never sees the girl again, after her has scr*wed over his fellow mongers.

    Hey, did you a favor, here is her BP advert and a pic. This will preserve her in the record her in case the BP advert gets taken down. Perhaps others will recognize her?
    Of course Cooky did a shoot with her. Her name is Nikki on the street. She's a very nice girl. I have not been with her Though. CookyJar did her pics not to long ago. I would say probably around September or October of this past year. It's good to see guys getting out there and handling their own affairs.

    So now on to bigger and better adventures. Good job. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

  13. #6443

    Good for you!

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesGlia  [View Original Post]
    I had met this girl first off backpage (she is the girl in the pics) just not as refined in real life as her pics. I think she has slipped a little but is still a nice find. Then I also found her walking as well on the street that runs parallel to Kensington (I think its Jasper). Initial fee when I met her off BP was 60 for 30 minutes. Then when I picked her up off the street it was a down and dirty 20 for bbjcim with spit. However, she took me back to her place each time, where her mom lives. She has a nice body, small a cup tits and nice ass. I did see her a third time and she is still fun to see. http://philadelphia.backpage.com/Fem...emale/29814457 This is her latest ad. In the pics, she is very sweet, in real life she is not as kept up. I will see her again as she is fun but I am not a fan of going into her place as her moms boyfriends were there and I was not expecting that the third time I saw her but at least I was not in my car having fun. I think her real name is Nicole. This dream happened this past weekend and prior. Sorry for not reporting timely . Anyone else see her before?
    Good for you! You found a girl on the street and instead of paying BP rates, paid street rates!

    Now that said. I guess I have been around this game too long, but looking at those pictures I would have pegged that girl as a SW from the get-go. She just has that "look." Would not be surprised if she isn't in CJ's gallery either.

    But hey that is the game, some dude sees a girl on the street has a nice time with her, and tells her she doesn't charge enough and should go on BP. Of course then he never sees the girl again, after her has scr*wed over his fellow mongers.

    Hey, did you a favor, here is her BP advert and a pic. This will preserve her in the record her in case the BP advert gets taken down. Perhaps others will recognize her?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails some advert2.jpg‎   Some advert.jpg‎  

  14. #6442

    Kat or Cat

    I had met this girl first off backpage (she is the girl in the pics) just not as refined in real life as her pics. I think she has slipped a little but is still a nice find. Then I also found her walking as well on the street that runs parallel to Kensington (I think its Jasper). Initial fee when I met her off BP was 60 for 30 minutes. Then when I picked her up off the street it was a down and dirty 20 for bbjcim with spit. However, she took me back to her place each time, where her mom lives. She has a nice body, small a cup tits and nice ass. I did see her a third time and she is still fun to see. http://philadelphia.backpage.com/Fem...emale/29814457 This is her latest ad. In the pics, she is very sweet, in real life she is not as kept up. I will see her again as she is fun but I am not a fan of going into her place as her moms boyfriends were there and I was not expecting that the third time I saw her but at least I was not in my car having fun. I think her real name is Nicole. This dream happened this past weekend and prior. Sorry for not reporting timely . Anyone else see her before?

  15. #6441

    Questions are OK!

    Quote Originally Posted by NikkiNine  [View Original Post]
    Also yeah I've got the 22 rules and flexyourrights also Gator texting your second phone smart I would never have thought of that.
    Glad you have those two resources under your belt! When I say INTERNALIZE the Flex Your Rights stuff I mean have it cold so it is second nature. When stopped with a girl or under pressure is no time to try to recall any technique.

    Second, kudos to you for posting here and being willing to learn. As Gator demonstrates, there is a lot of knowledge around these parts, so don't be afraid to ask questions about techniques.

    I know when I started, and was in my "learning phase" (driving & looking & NOT scooping) I came to these boards and asked a BUNCH of dumb rookie questions. One of the reasons I post advice is to payback all of that kindness that helped me as a pup.

    So good luck and you learn! Stay safe.

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