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[PangShalom]

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[PhilandersNc]

We can close this topic and points noted. Thank you!

Gentlemen.

I just want to express my gratitude to you all for the discussion about rates, negotiating, etc. I am probably one of the most infrequent partakers on the board and the information shared is simply priceless. I wonder sometimes if I am crazy because I negotiate some very serious dollars on a daily basis iny profession, however, it literally NEVER occurs to me to even try to negotiate with these ladies. My thought has always been that their price is their price and if it doesn't seem to match what I see in the pictures, I kindly move on. They are sharing their bodies with me so I figure why even insult them by suggesting that it isn't worth what they say it is worth. If they OFFER a better price, I usually will take it and still give them the regular price. I guess my attitude will change if I decide to pick up my pace.

Anyway, I appreciate the education and stay safe, gents.

[PangShalom]

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[MrSmithwick]

Same here FL.

But for everyone else, just so you know. Once a decent looking girl goes live on the scene (Especially on BP) You can best bet her phone is blowing up constantly. Most of the calls or text are losers trying to lowball but there are some really good guys out there who don't give two F*cks about what it's going to take to get the girl to them ahead of all the other slimeballs. She will go with the best possible option every time. This is why GOOD providers at times either up their game to a higher echelon or disappear altogether. This DOES NOT APPLY to the low end girls that are messed up on drugs, BSC, or just plain unattractive. So what's leftover for you to "negotiate" with are the lower tier girls. Yes, they will take the negotiation because it could be the difference between a fix and no fix. No self respecting smart man really wants to see these girls because of the higher risk factor. So just be informed that if you are seeing girls that will negotiate low rates with you, there is a good chance of serious underlying problems and your risk factor just went up ten fold. If you are ok with that, then so be it.

One of my UTR ladies showed me her emails one day and she has a handful of guys that spend 1000+ on her for a few hours of time on a very regular basis. She's worth that, no doubt. But that is even out of my range for that sort of time.

Point is, substandard providers are bargain basement if you just want a nut, just don't expect (or demand) Full on GFE services, clean location, smoke free, good hygiene, fresh and ready, timely starts or even good communication. These chicks are ON DRUGS!! And you have absolutely no grounds to come on the board and complain. Chalk it up for what it is. Put your big boy pants on and move on to better things.

Now, for those of you who get it and understand the value of a GOOD provider that takes good care of herself, provides comfortable date environment, gives you some good conversation and makes you want to see her over and over. Don't Eff it up. Be a gentleman and do NOT negotiate with her. You can allow her to give you maybe some extra time or extra perks as she sees fit or comfortable with. You will have a much better rapport that way.

On the subject of tipping (last time) DO NOT TIP slum BP girls! For god sakes don't do that! But for your GOOD providers, do something nice, A little tip here and there, greeting cards, flowers, Food, etc. Little nice gestures will get your REMEMBERED and well taken care of for future dates. Here is an example. One of my UTR girls Knows that I have always taken care of her. On one Afternoon, she had a girlfriend with her and she said she'd come over but her GF would be with her. I agreed that was ok. Well after about an hr, she got her GF to join in for a threeway. Totally unexpected, but we had a great time and I tried to give a little extra for the added bonus but she said "No, I got this. It's my turn to do something special for you" This is where GOOD providers trump these low end BP girls.

Last note. If anyone wants to "work together" how about working together to take better care of the handful of decent BP girls out there. If you take better care of them, treat them nicely they will stick around longer and not be subject to being jaded from piss poor negatives of the industry.

I got to agree with SmithWick here. I've been on the other end with providers plenty of times when they are holding the phone next to me and texting back mongers and I've seen it in front of my eyes where providers will text back and say, I can't right now, I already have an appointment. Text from a monger comes back, forget him, I'll give you $$. 5 Previous guy who is halfway there is cancelled.

I've also been with providers get call after call with guys only willing to give up. 4 and the depending on the girl she insists, "No, . 6 or. 8 or $ is the lowest I can go" It is really fucking tiresome for them. But from what I am hearing I guess they give in or at least a steep discount is had a lot of times.

Since diametrically opposed strategies work for different mongers I doubt we will be working together anytime soon.

[XxJohnJohnXx]

So it was 9:35 pm and I couldn't sleep just thinking about that cuban girl I met yesterday! Just the images in my head of ripping that pussy apart, the sounds and the waves that her ass was making while I was hammering it woke up little JOHN and is like he gots a mind of his own and he whispers to me and says DUDE WE got to HIT SOMETHING TONIGHT, and me filled with the memories of all the pussy that I have conquered, and the ones that are still out there yet to be discovered and I'm just one call or text away, those memories, those moments they really get to me and cloud my judgment so here goes me falling again into the temptation and my greatest weakness (young Pussy) I said to my self like I always do when not a single fuck is given FUCK IT! So I went to check out the BP MENU I didn't really see anything that I like till I got the 5th page and saw SARAH LEIGH'S ADD and I'm like OH SHIATT this is it! I been craving this chick forever and I had remembered that our boy FATLEVER had wrote a review about her, so I went back to our forum just to read the whole review again, as I was reading thought the review I had a good feeling about this chick, and just like fuckign spiderman with the spidey senses that tingles when dangerous shit is near, my dick senses was tingling that SARAH Leigh was good pussy, so I texted her up and asked her if she still was doing incalls and luckily she was, she texted me up her address and I got on the road in no time, I got to the location called her up no answer, texted her up and she texted back with the room number! So here I go I knocked on the door and door opens and I thought to myself HOLY SHIT iev seen this face before, as we started talking turns out she is a home girl from my town and everything, like we went to the same school and shit, we both said to each other wow what a small world, anyways I handed her the donation and we started taking our clothes off, wow nice ass, we got on the bed and started making out DFK with tongue in and everything, she was all over me and I was all over her it was literally like fuckign my girlfriend that I have not seen in days, if it wasnt for the cover it woulda been a full GFE it was amazing and due to respect towards her I won't be so descriptive on this one, she was soo sweet and very accommodating I will deff repeat it was soo good I gave her a 40 $ tip thanks fatty boy for this one (fatlever) your review motivated me to go see her and wow what a surprise to meet this hottie from my highschool years again it deff made my night.
her link :
http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sarah-leigh-120hh-special/26177455

[MikeLittle]

I got to agree with SmithWick here. I've been on the other end with providers plenty of times when they are holding the phone next to me and texting back mongers and I've seen it in front of my eyes where providers will text back and say, I can't right now, I already have an appointment. Text from a monger comes back, forget him, I'll give you $$. 5 Previous guy who is halfway there is cancelled.

I've also been with providers get call after call with guys only willing to give up. 4 and the depending on the girl she insists, "No, . 6 or. 8 or $ is the lowest I can go" It is really fucking tiresome for them. But from what I am hearing I guess they give in or at least a steep discount is had a lot of times.

Since diametrically opposed strategies work for different mongers I doubt we will be working together anytime soon.

We can close this topic and points noted. Thank you!

[FatLever]

I can see it now. Hooker Hobbyist anonymous meetings. Give me a break. Nobody is going to "work together".

As long as their is available cooter and johns willing to pay, you'll never control the price.

I got to agree with SmithWick here. I've been on the other end with providers plenty of times when they are holding the phone next to me and texting back mongers and I've seen it in front of my eyes where providers will text back and say, I can't right now, I already have an appointment. Text from a monger comes back, forget him, I'll give you $$. 5 Previous guy who is halfway there is cancelled.

I've also been with providers get call after call with guys only willing to give up. 4 and the depending on the girl she insists, "No, . 6 or. 8 or $ is the lowest I can go" It is really fucking tiresome for them. But from what I am hearing I guess they give in or at least a steep discount is had a lot of times.

Since diametrically opposed strategies work for different mongers I doubt we will be working together anytime soon.

[MikeLittle]

I can see it now. Hooker Hobbyist anonymous meetings. Give me a break. Nobody is going to "work together".

As long as their is available cooter and johns willing to pay, you'll never control the price.

On another note, this video reminded me of a lot of you dudes here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPMRvPr6MFM

If what you are saying is true, then this board is unnecessary to share reports, and so rip off reports thread. Video demonstration is good. Except that ***** got an attitude. If you are a businessman who would walk into a car show room and keep your mouth closed and just pay the price of an luxury car -well it perhaps suits you. Not everyone of us. I do negotiate, and I don't care. And my negotiation is FAIR. I don't ask for $20 ride neither a free ride. It's not being cheap but being cautious. I myself got ripped off several times. Doesn't matter if I see a lot or new to this hobby. There are ladies who charge premium price and say bye bye. So it's not just money is the reason we have YMMV. Anyways, it's not worth arguing on this point.

To keep it straight.

I would pay $. 8 for hh with Noa, and 3 or 4 for an hour. Because they value my time, don't flake, provide a class experience.

I would NOT pay 2 for hh with Jewels even if that pu $$why is made of gold. It's not because of the service or appearance. It's overall attitude. Overall experience. Where she stays. How clean she keep up with the room. List goes on. So she is a $100 provider.

Hope it make sense now. If not, that's fine. Because when I say we work together it's just a saying. Doesn't actually mean we all can meet at a bar and discuss over this. Seriously?

[Beeev]

Can someone remind me who IJE is on BP? Uncle took her pick again yesterday. Nikki??

Also NAL (miami) 2/11/16. Please include a date with initials. Much easier to find.

[MrSmithwick]

I can see it now. Hooker Hobbyist anonymous meetings. Give me a break. Nobody is going to "work together".

As long as their is available cooter and johns willing to pay, you'll never control the price.

On another note, this video reminded me of a lot of you dudes here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPMRvPr6MFM

I agree with this response more. Well justified the reason we should all stand together to keep it max 120 for hh. It's definitely not low balling. Guys, I have seen amazing low volume providers for 100. Awesome GFE, fresh, clean repeated many times and attitude never change. Don't PM me asking me for reference. It's not here in Raleigh. And if you must know, I have seen a 2 girls Misty and Holly where charlotte have a seperate thread for them. They both are the most beautiful girls and it's a jackpot if you get to see them. I see them in their apartment for both of them unbelievable porn star experience for 140. Ofcourse they knows their worth. They charge $300 for qv. But I talked out of them, and once they see me and the way I treat them being nice and everything, they reciprocate. It's extremely unfortunate for charlotte mongers that these girls quit and got into their life. I am happy for them though. As long as they were there, I have seen them and kept them busy. Most amazing experience. One of them looks exactly like cameron diaz, other one has beautiful rack, amazing tummy, they both are bi. Ok, I can't sleep nowthinkign about them.

Point is, we can work together to make this happen. 120 is not at all bad.

[MrSmithwick]

When you lowball a good provider, please don't come here to ***** about how shitty the service was. Chances are she gave you shitty service on purpose. Sure, some girls have entitlement issues but this doesn't apply to all of them. There are GOOD providers that are worth every penny they command. If you cannot afford such providers, then you have to slum it, just don't ***** about the slum because it is what it is.

It's not picking a random number it's picking a price we're willing to pay or walk away and asking others to go along with it or something close. Although basic rules of economics don't really apply here, the market rate of a good or service is often determined by a combination of factors such as scarcity, number of customers, what customers can afford and quality. Large numbers of guys holding the line at no more than 120 for a hh with BP girls will eventually result in lower prices.

They complain about everything because most of them are entitled, have an inflated sense of self-worth and think simply posting an ad makes them a high class escort. $100/ hh is far from lowballing because even doing 3 hh / day on average (most do far more) will result in a more than reasonable living.

It's no mystery that they don't want guys negotiating or setting rates amoung ourselves since most of them are greedy and see escorting as quick and easy money.

Look pay what you want but realize that as a group we stand a better chance of getting good prices an service than we do as individuals.

[MikeLittle]

It's not picking a random number it's picking a price we're willing to pay or walk away and asking others to go along with it or something close. Although basic rules of economics don't really apply here, the market rate of a good or service is often determined by a combination of factors such as scarcity, number of customers, what customers can afford and quality. Large numbers of guys holding the line at no more than 120 for a hh with BP girls will eventually result in lower prices.

They complain about everything because most of them are entitled, have an inflated sense of self-worth and think simply posting an ad makes them a high class escort. $100/ hh is far from lowballing because even doing 3 hh / day on average (most do far more) will result in a more than reasonable living.

It's no mystery that they don't want guys negotiating or setting rates amoung ourselves since most of them are greedy and see escorting as quick and easy money.

Look pay what you want but realize that as a group we stand a better chance of getting good prices an service than we do as individuals.

I agree with this response more. Well justified the reason we should all stand together to keep it max 120 for hh. It's definitely not low balling. Guys, I have seen amazing low volume providers for 100. Awesome GFE, fresh, clean repeated many times and attitude never change. Don't PM me asking me for reference. It's not here in Raleigh. And if you must know, I have seen a 2 girls Misty and Holly where charlotte have a seperate thread for them. They both are the most beautiful girls and it's a jackpot if you get to see them. I see them in their apartment for both of them unbelievable porn star experience for 140. Ofcourse they knows their worth. They charge $300 for qv. But I talked out of them, and once they see me and the way I treat them being nice and everything, they reciprocate. It's extremely unfortunate for charlotte mongers that these girls quit and got into their life. I am happy for them though. As long as they were there, I have seen them and kept them busy. Most amazing experience. One of them looks exactly like cameron diaz, other one has beautiful rack, amazing tummy, they both are bi. Ok, I can't sleep nowthinkign about them.

Point is, we can work together to make this happen. 120 is not at all bad.

[Stanski35]

Thanks for TOFTT. Good job bud!! What was the damage?

100 QV. It lasted about 20 minutes.

[Stanski35]

I had a dream with the provider below, but in Tampa. I have family there so I go quite often. I'm not saying she isn't here visiting, and it wasn't. 4 when I saw her. I would recommend her if the pics aren't stolen. We live in an age of advanced transportation, but unless teleportation is available I think her being here is highly unlikely. Good luck hunting.

http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEs...04040/26217319

http://tampa.backpage.com/FemaleEsco...ll-no/15918194

[FatLever]

Thank looks like Sara (biker babe) also saw a AMP looks familiar is she BP girl as well?

Edit: Removing my comment about AMP for my own safety. Indirectly knows who I am thanks to members here.

Edit: Can't believe IJE got booked again, had just seen her booked for walking her pet demon.