Strip Club Reports

[SlackerFreak]

What it all comes down to is: Does this seem like a girl with a drug habit or a handler or what do you make of the situation? How would you handle it?

Obviously, you already know the answer to this. Avoid her like the plague.

[Davenothere]

I don't see any evidence of drugs

I don't see how you can't. Your whole post just screams it.

[Incognito1234]

For those of you that have read my posts, you'll know that I'm a long time veteran of the strip clubs and MPs. I'm looking for advice or opinions, since I'm in a situation that's alien to me.

Background: I started seeing a girl from a club OTC off an on a while back. She seems very smart and I don't see any evidence of drugs or abuse but she's been acting odd lately. The last time I saw her, it was just for 1/2 hour. In that time period, she asked if she could use my phone to make a call and I let her. Within that time frame, there were calls back to my number from three different phones. I don't get the impression that she has a handler though. I do know that she changes cell phone numbers very quickly too.

Well, things have gotten more odd lately. She's texted me from two different numbers this week, wanting to get together and saying that she really needs the money. Yesterday, she sent me a message asking me to get together for a very discounted rate, because she was completely broke and hadn't eaten. Now, from our previous conversations, I know her father lives locally and she's on decent terms with him and I know she has cousins and friends and I'm quite confident that if she were that hungry, she could go to any of them to eat. I guess I feel like the bottom line to all of that is that she's trying to guilt me in to getting together so she can make some cash to do whatever.

At this point, my thoughts are to cut off communication completely. Which of done so far, since I haven't replied to her messages. I'm just uncomfortable with her behavior at this point and she seems to be more anxious and desperate in regard to getting together to make some cash.

What it all comes down to is: Does this seem like a girl with a drug habit or a handler or what do you make of the situation? How would you handle it?

[Incognito1234]

Your not going to offend these girls. As one dancer just told me Monday. "we both know our roles here so tell me what you want". Maybe try " dances are boring I'm interested in something more". Anyway be direct and negotioate in stone before you make one step to the back room. The more casual, direct and relaxed the more fun and less games you will have. Act like you get BJs three times a week there. Humor always helps too.

+1 on this.

Everyone knows what everyone else is there for. It isn't a secret. After you sit down and talk to them for a while, lean over and quietly make an offer in her ear "want to go fuck for $100?" (make sure you point out that that $100 includes the number of songs too) Most of the time, they will say yes and go back with you. Some of the girls might try to negotiate higher prices and tell you that they normally get $150 or 200 for that but because they "like you", they could do it for $140 or 160 or whatever. In those cases, counter with $120 max (never more) and that should do it. If she still persists, point out that you can go home and call an escort on BP and get a full hour with one of them for $150 or 200.

Rarely, you will find a girl that just won't come down on her pricing, no matter how well you negotiate. If that's the case, sometimes, you just have to stop thinking with your dick with that girl and walk away. There are plenty of girls who will happily take that same deal but it'll just take you a while longer in the place you're in or you might have to go to a different club to complete the job. If you're in Henry's (either one) or Bogart's, you'll almost never run into this scenario, because all of the girls are aware that the guys know that every girl is an option and that others will take your offer in a heartbeat and they'd lose out on the cash.

[LPboy]

I am a long time patron of downriver clubs. And recently made several early afternoon visits to the renamed chic on Dix. Physically the club is very comfortable and well done but small. The dancers seem to be more interested in talking to each other rather than customers and any. Dancing seems to be an afterthought and a garment seems to be more interested in cooking its own lunch rather than running the club. I would love to have a little private time with the bar tender but she seems to be the only one who actually does her job. Overall I like the club but will only give its few more visits before I go to other clubs to spend my cash, I haven't spent much here because the girls don't seem to want to interact with customers.

[FlakFizer]

I was just wondering whether or not the clubs actually do take a chunk from the girls VIP money in addition to the VIP entrance fees. If so, how would they know how much the girls got? Is there typically a flat fee? Just wondering, on the off chance the girl wasn't lying. Stupid question, and I don't recall reading that that is common practice, but it would might be, I suppose. Does it depend on the club, and if so, what incentive would a girl have to work at one which did IG there were others that didn't?

[Mayhem1]

Has anyone had any experience with Wednesday at bogarts?

[MichMong]

I've been to strip clubs probably three times ever and I'm wondering how to ask for extras to a dancer. How do you not offend some and how do you not sound like a cop.

Your not going to offend these girls. As one dancer just told me Monday. "we both know our roles here so tell me what you want". Maybe try " dances are boring I'm interested in something more". Anyway be direct and negotioate in stone before you make one step to the back room. The more casual, direct and relaxed the more fun and less games you will have. Act like you get BJs three times a week there. Humor always helps too.

[Mayhem1]

I've been to strip clubs probably three times ever and I'm wondering how to ask for extras to a dancer. How do you not offend some and how do you not sound like a cop.

[MichMong]

Can someone give me an update on the Hustler. I went by at 930 Wed night and it was a ghostown. 2 cars probly staff didn't go in. Went down to Subis and had a good night. Havnt been in the H8 South in forever. Would like an update so I'm not walikng into something unexpected. I remember the back room where everyone sat in chairs together. That was awkward.

[TDisregard]

I was a regular of hers and she disappeared. Anyone know if she went to another club? She was a tiny blond spinner. If anyone has seen her PM me, thanks.

[Time Twist]

I ventured to a strip club last night for only the second time in my life. I chose Bogarts and arrived very after one in the am. I was quickly approached by a very attractive brunette whose name I think was Renee? Forgive my lack of precision as I was very nervous. She quoted 140 for CBJ or 240 for CBJ and CFS. Boring, thought I, so I politely declined. Then I was approached by a chunky blonde in a white shirt who was drunk, followed by a very cute short girl with light brown hair and glasses. I liked her, and she whispered 100 for a BJ. She initially responded covered, I countered with the uncovered and she agreed. I must have looked bright green and gullible to all the seasoned veterans there. I was ripe for being conned, and I think I was. So I initially asked about the song count and she said 20 per song. I asked to clarify and based on that I assumed she meant 100 flat regardless, and more if I exceeded five songs. Wrong was I ever. The songs (assuming you can call them that, were indistinguishable from one another. I didn't last five minutes. I asked if I could cim, and she agreed. Ha! Before I even started Cummings, her gloved hand had removed little man from her mouth and was trying to finish me Mano style. Boring. Then she complained about the mess. Horrible. Then she said I owed her 140. I tried to mildly defend our initial agreement based on her quote and she got upset, claiming the twenty per song was in addition to the hundred. I relented and apologized for the misunderstanding and gave her the extra forty for her lousy service to avoid trouble. I don't think I even made it through one song, by the way. She wore glasses and said she only worked Friday and Saturday nights, and hailed from Brighton. She also claimed that the guys took a hefty chunk from her VIP profit as standard practice (I think she said they would take forty. I felt sorry for the little con woman). Appeals to pity work on me, I guess. So total damage: 5 cover, 6. 75 for a beer I did not touch, ten to get into VIP area, 140 for horrible, reluctant BBBJ with gloved, disgusted, pursed-lipped, lemon-faced, HJ finish. Please school my sorry rookie behind so I never repeat this type of unsatisfying travesty again.

This seems to be a very common theme among many of the gals at Bogarts, H8 N and Criket my last two trips to Detroit. Got to start calling them on their BS and. That and starting to want $200 or $250 for full sex like Barbie at Bogarts, who very insulting when I refused. It's best if name and avoid the dancers who try this and support the ones who don't.

[FlakFizer]

I mistakenly assumed my first posting didn't make it, so I moronically wrote another version with a few extra minor details. I am sorry.

[FlakFizer]

I think they must have sensed I was easy prey the moment I walked in the door at Bogarts. It was well after one this morning. I had only been to one other sc in my life, and that was only for about twenty minutes at Henry VIII and during a dismal weekday afternoon. I sat down near a very cute stripper who looked part Mexican (she was avoiding eye contact with everyone and looked completely miserable. After about two minutes a hot young brunette named Renee came and sat down and invited me to VIP. She quoted 140 for CBJ or 240 for that and CFS). I thought better of that so I told her I would think about it. Up comes a lonely and drunk blonde waitress. She starts talking to me. Watching this transpire is a short, petite girl with light brown hair and glasses named Rheanna. She is attractive. She whispers 100 for BJ in my ear. I idiotically accept. Minutes you I had already paid 5 to get in and 8 for a beer that was 6. 75 (I tipped because I wasn't sure whether or not I was supposed to). I didn't touch the thing. As I am following this girl to the VIP area she is explaining that it is 20 per song. I assumed that meant a flat 100 unless I surpassed 5 songs. I brought this concept up to her and she agreed. So it is ten for the VIP gatekeeper and off we go. I ask for BBBJ and she reluctantly agrees. I ask where I can finish and she tells me in her gloved hand. I asked if I could cim and she said she guessed she could spit it out. Red flag red flag. She begins. It doesn't even take one song and I am about to finish. I let her know and she makes a disgusted sour-lemon face and removes junior from her mouth and starts lightly and disinterestedly tugging junior to finish into her gloved hand like she's trying to get a dollop of hair gel from a tube into her palm. I say I thought you said I could cim and she moves junior still in her hand a few inches closer to her face while he's dribbling. Fortunately I had paper towels in my pocket. She used one to clean up the mess on the chair and floor and then I endeavored to give her 100, only to learn I owed her 140, since in her mind two songs had been played and I owed 20 per indistinguishable song on top of the hundred. I mildly attempted a weak defense, to which she retorted that she was only going to get 60 or 80 if I gave her only 100 because the establishment took a sizeable chunk of her VIP money. To avoid trouble I paid and left. She gave me get number on the condition that I give her the 140 for my lousy time. $300 for outcall. What a bargain! Was I conned or am I just an idiotic pushover or both?

[Bratley1055]

There are different opinions but a common factor seems to the the privacy curtains in the VIP, take them down like Toy Chest DPD shows up less frequent. Legends and Coli had visits also.

Toy Chest still gets raided periodically even with the curtains down. For the most part they are checking dance cards. The fines are pretty healthy.