"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[VaSD1]

Hello! This is my first post, so I'm hoping I can get some guidance. I've been on a SB site for a month. I'm mid 30's, going through the divorce process. I figured I'd join to get back into the swing of things.

In summary, it's been overwhelming. I'd prefer one single girl for SB, but I don't think it's realistic. I've had about 7 dates and only 2 were adamant about an "arrangement". The most have ended up being dates or hookups for food or drinks. I got BBBJ CIM from 4/7 on the first or second date. I generally lose interest and hit the "search" button again and add another 2-3 to the chat rotation for the eventual meet up.

Is it recommended I continue this method till I find a solid SB? Granted my scope is early 20's, most are just happy to go to a nice dinner and night on the town. It's just been my luck that it's been leading to a BJ in the taxi or at their dorm / apt. I suppose my age is a benefit. I still look like I'm in my 20's, also I sense the girls are relieved because they've been doing strange things for some change with much older guys.

The one SB I had FC with told me her prev SD was in his 60's. On our first date, she begged me to take the condom off; figured it was just in the moment. Following am, after I ran out of condoms she's trying to rub me on her to insert. I snatched my junk back. I had to stop seeing her because I really liked the sex (this girls mouth was filthy. Age 20). But she was a 6/10 face / body and 9/10 bed. Now she sends texts saying she's in a jam financially as if I owe her.

Is it best to set a per date amount "or" should I continue eating the free lunch until I find a SB to settle for a longer period of time. Multiple dates can add up quick. Let me know how I should approach this. I have 2 or 3 meet and greets set up for this week.

You may never find just one. You may find a regular SB (for the time being) but my experience is you just can't help checking out the new talent that arrives almost daily and the temptation for some new pussy is always overwhelming. Many of the veterans on the board speak in terms of having a favorite but she is usually just part of an ever changing rotation. Variety is the spice of life. Since I started my sugar adventures last summer I have never stayed with one girl more than 4-5 sessions before feeling the urge to sample something new. I've tried all ages, 19-49, races, sizes, spinners to plump and had some amazingly talented ladies (and a couple of snoozers) willing to give me just about any type of pleasure I could dream up. And I'm one of those 60 yo guys. The bowl is full of goodies, just waiting for you to grab a spoonful. As long as you can sample for free (or just drinks / dinner) I would continue to do so.

[HoyaSvnFgr]

Hello! This is my first post, so I'm hoping I can get some guidance. I've been on a SB site for a month. I'm mid 30's, going through the divorce process. I figured I'd join to get back into the swing of things.

In summary, it's been overwhelming. I'd prefer one single girl for SB, but I don't think it's realistic. I've had about 7 dates and only 2 were adamant about an "arrangement". The most have ended up being dates or hookups for food or drinks. I got BBBJ CIM from 4/7 on the first or second date. I generally lose interest and hit the "search" button again and add another 2-3 to the chat rotation for the eventual meet up.

Is it recommended I continue this method till I find a solid SB? Granted my scope is early 20's, most are just happy to go to a nice dinner and night on the town. It's just been my luck that it's been leading to a BJ in the taxi or at their dorm / apt. I suppose my age is a benefit. I still look like I'm in my 20's, also I sense the girls are relieved because they've been doing strange things for some change with much older guys.

The one SB I had FC with told me her prev SD was in his 60's. On our first date, she begged me to take the condom off; figured it was just in the moment. Following am, after I ran out of condoms she's trying to rub me on her to insert. I snatched my junk back. I had to stop seeing her because I really liked the sex (this girls mouth was filthy. Age 20). But she was a 6/10 face / body and 9/10 bed. Now she sends texts saying she's in a jam financially as if I owe her.

Is it best to set a per date amount "or" should I continue eating the free lunch until I find a SB to settle for a longer period of time. Multiple dates can add up quick. Let me know how I should approach this. I have 2 or 3 meet and greets set up for this week.

[HollywoodGuy]

I'm headed to Orlando in a week, so I've been searching SA for some possible company while I'm there. I ran across this profile:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...cently-active&

Submissive sisters looking to live with you who will act as personal assistants and don't mind doing the group thing.

Talk about TGTBT, LOL.

Good Hunting,

Travelin'.

For GPS pricing. They signed up almost 8 months ago. But good luck.

[TravelinSD]

I'm headed to Orlando in a week, so I've been searching SA for some possible company while I'm there. I ran across this profile:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...cently-active&

Submissive sisters looking to live with you who will act as personal assistants and don't mind doing the group thing.

Talk about TGTBT, LOL.

Good Hunting,

Travelin'.

[RubberyMan]

Lots of amusing misinformation in that article, kind of reminds of why one of my friends always refers to that newspaper as "The Daily Fail". Unfortunately it's not just them, articles like these are pretty common. I suppose not many SBs are willing to brag about a relationship that includes sex -- it's too close to feeling like a pro for them. So they keep that part to themselves, and we end up with ridiculous articles about multimillionaires who pay their SBs 1 k / month for the priviledge of taking them shopping and maybe occasionally holding hands.

Bait advertising is where someone, a used car dealer for example, makes a fantastic offer to draw customers in. However, when you turn up with the $500 for that brand new BMW, it's already gone. However, while you are there, there's this nice little clunker for only $20 k.

It's commonly used by escort businesses to recruit staff. They promise big $$ but when checked out, that big money is about four or five times what actually ends up in the hand after agency fees, taxes and expenses.

The point is, that bait advertising gets those who are thinking about buying a car, or working escort or being a SB to take that first step through the door.

So these articles, provided by SA, and used on slow news days by the media, effectively get those women thinking about it to take the first step. Once they've made that step, some will try to achieve the unrealistic targets, and leave if they can't. However, bait advertising is so effective because there are always some who take a more realistic deal.

[JZLizard]

A working girl I got to know traded my knowledge for her pleasures when she was on her tour through my town. She shared her business realities and made $175 K that year. She was older (40 ish) but beautiful and classy and still had "it". She was one an older guy would feel proud of and not self conscious . And she was educated and smart . Her fee was $300/ hour but had numerous weekend trips through the year to Vegas and other hot spots to travel with clients for $1800 plus travel and gifts. So it does happen that a guy who has tons of money spends it. What I do not get (believe) is the no sex thing. This girl "Emily" is super cute, but no way she wouldn't be putting out. So she just lies so she can say she isn't selling sex. BS Mutha Fu#%ka! We might be dumb but we're not stupid.

Female denial of promiscuity has been around as long as the vagina itself. It is as intrinsic to them as our desire for variety is. In the case of SBs or pros, they see it as making themselves seem more respectful that they would command money for "companionship" while lessening the chance. One of the wildest fuck buddies I ever had was the biggest **** in the world between the sheets, but outside of bed would try to convince me that her total lifetime sex partner count could be counted on one hand (which was not even remotely believable, besides she had already told me about 3 of them that had occurred just in the prior year).

In all the women I've known, I can only remember one that bragged about (or I should announced) her promiscuity. A Chinese college student in her 20's I met online, she had come to the US only to study. I'm sitting there in a bar with her having a couple of drinks, when randomly and out of the clear blue, she said "do you fuck around a lot? I wasn't even sure I heard her correctly so I said "what? So she repeated it. "I said do you fuck around a lot? Because I do, I just wondered if you did too". It caught me completely off guard -- not because she seemed the shy or conservative type (not even close), but just because I'd never heard a woman so casually announced her promiscuity like that. Naturally I answered her question both verbally and with action.

[F Scott]

MESSAGE 1.

Hello. I just read your profile.

So after reading my profile if you want to know more, then email me at xxx@xxx.com.

Just lmk its you by your profile name.

I do prefer a per meeting type of arrangement to start.

So if you could let me know what your expectation$ are that would be great.

MESSAGE 2 - 123 message.

MESSAGE 3.

Well every girl is on here for a reason. So let me ask you. Are you looking for the highest bidder? Because If you're going for top dollar. That won't be me.

I'm sure you will get offers of $200 to $300 a date (lots of them). And you may need at least that much just to tolerate the guys offering it.

But if you're willing to take less to be with a more chill, good looking guy (for my age that is) then we might be able to make it work. What do you think?

MESSAGE 4.

Well that's good because that's normally the type of girl I date. I pay $100 a date. Which won't cover any ones lifestyle. But it does add up. I need to have a real connection with the person I am with. Like real chemistry. Otherwise what's the point?

I understand some girls will date anyone if they pay enough. And I don't judge. I just know that for a girl to keep seeing me for a $100 a date she has to like me. At $300 a date I would never know if it was me or the cash. Does that make sense?

MESSAGE 5.

Send a long personalized intro letter explaining the details of your donation and expectations. Now when you go to the M&G you have a great chance of going straight to the FC. So be prepared.

If they go silent at any point in the process, just forget about them. If they go off the script / desired reply, just answer their question or comment directly and then go right back to the script. You have to stay in control of the conversation at all times. And try lots of things, I know I have and continue to do so. This is just what I am doing now.

Until 2 weeks ago I was just going straight to message 5. Kinda crazy but it did work enough to keep me busy. But I am finding that this multi step process is drawing out some of the more reluctant girls as well as the easy pickings. Your message 5 needs to be very compelling, erotic but not sleazy and must convey some real sincerity. Take the control they want to give you.

Hey Hollywood,

I must have missed your post about the "123" message. Could you refresh my memory? Or direct me to it?

Keep up the good work.

Scott.

[Orbits]

Stumbled across this while surfing some other stuff:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...rong-that.html

22 Year old British student lands a 44 yr old Multimillionaire. 5,000 lbs. (That's $7645 US) over 6 months, plus lots of high-end shopping. Paid for her 21st birthday party. Plus supposedly, she didn't even have to sleep with him:

"Emily claims that she didn't sleep with her 'sugar daddy' during the six months that they were together, because she wasn't ready.

But she does admit that they went further than any platonic friends ever would.

'He wanted more but I wasn't ready,' she explains.

When asked if they kissed and how ask far they did go, she replied: 'Yes, we kissed. It was like we were in the early stages of a relationship. ' ".

Bottomline message to the SBs. Lots of multimillionaires out there looking to lavish you with gifts and cash for no sex. LOL.

Also, check out the SA ad for Sugar Baby U.

Good Hunting!

Travelin'.

Lots of amusing misinformation in that article, kind of reminds of why one of my friends always refers to that newspaper as "The Daily Fail". Unfortunately it's not just them, articles like these are pretty common. I suppose not many SBs are willing to brag about a relationship that includes sex -- it's too close to feeling like a pro for them. So they keep that part to themselves, and we end up with ridiculous articles about multimillionaires who pay their SBs 1 k / month for the priviledge of taking them shopping and maybe occasionally holding hands.

[FredMoore]

What some of them mean when they say this is they saw him once per week (for a three day holiday weekend at a time), but that week only came every three months or so depending on his work schedule.

So three nights of no holds barred fucking, figure three rounds per night. I fully believe that some of them pull this off, it's just that they are using "marketing speak" to make it sound like "a date" equates to "a fuck", and we all know that's not the case.

All this assumes her statement is even true. But yeah, some guys will pay a grand for a travel weekend if she's hot enough. It all comes down to how honest she is about what a date meant.

A working girl I got to know traded my knowledge for her pleasures when she was on her tour through my town. She shared her business realities and made $175 K that year. She was older (40 ish) but beautiful and classy and still had "it". She was one an older guy would feel proud of and not self conscious . And she was educated and smart . Her fee was $300/ hour but had numerous weekend trips through the year to Vegas and other hot spots to travel with clients for $1800 plus travel and gifts. So it does happen that a guy who has tons of money spends it. What I do not get (believe) is the no sex thing. This girl "Emily" is super cute, but no way she wouldn't be putting out. So she just lies so she can say she isn't selling sex. BS Mutha Fu#%ka! We might be dumb but we're not stupid.

[TravelinSD]

Stumbled across this while surfing some other stuff:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...rong-that.html

22 Year old British student lands a 44 yr old Multimillionaire. 5,000 lbs. (That's $7645 US) over 6 months, plus lots of high-end shopping. Paid for her 21st birthday party. Plus supposedly, she didn't even have to sleep with him:

"Emily claims that she didn't sleep with her 'sugar daddy' during the six months that they were together, because she wasn't ready.

But she does admit that they went further than any platonic friends ever would.

'He wanted more but I wasn't ready,' she explains.

When asked if they kissed and how ask far they did go, she replied: 'Yes, we kissed. It was like we were in the early stages of a relationship. ' ".

Bottomline message to the SBs. Lots of multimillionaires out there looking to lavish you with gifts and cash for no sex. LOL.

Also, check out the SA ad for Sugar Baby U.

Good Hunting!

Travelin'.

[HollywoodGuy]

"I want to be up front and just say if everything goes great and we have chemistry at the end of the day, I would not be looking for a one time thing. My ex was my only SD and I saw him once a week for 1 k per date. If I can find something close to that I would be happy and I'm well worth it So hypothetically if we click is this what you are ooking for? If so I can email pics asap".

If everything goes great?. If I could find something close to that I might decide to be a SB too. I have gotten a few of these 1 k proposals. Too funny.

Usually if I find out a girl has had an SD before and I am considering her for more than a booty call, I will pass due to unrealistic expectations. I just think its funny that they even ask. I have had about 4 or 5 quote me this price so far. For the last 4 months I have been fairly satiated with my regulars. So I am just trying to find the next real SB. I have a few that look promising but it is really taking a lot of time. And the booty call girls just aren't getting me out of my chair lately. The 3 at the top of my list are all shy or scared regular girls. One has been passed around as a booty call a few times and is really frustrated. The other two are real newbies.

Its like I tell any skittish girl. "Every relationship starts with a one nite stand".

[JZLizard]

"My ex was my only SD and I saw him once a week for 1 k per date".

What some of them mean when they say this is they saw him once per week (for a three day holiday weekend at a time), but that week only came every three months or so depending on his work schedule.

So three nights of no holds barred fucking, figure three rounds per night. I fully believe that some of them pull this off, it's just that they are using "marketing speak" to make it sound like "a date" equates to "a fuck", and we all know that's not the case.

All this assumes her statement is even true. But yeah, some guys will pay a grand for a travel weekend if she's hot enough. It all comes down to how honest she is about what a date meant.

[Rouleur]

"I want to be up front and just say if everything goes great and we have chemistry at the end of the day, I would not be looking for a one time thing. My ex was my only SD and I saw him once a week for 1 k per date. If I can find something close to that I would be happy and I'm well worth it So hypothetically if we click is this what you are ooking for? If so I can email pics asap".

If everything goes great?. If I could find something close to that I might decide to be a SB too. I have gotten a few of these 1 k proposals. Too funny.

Hollywood, please tell me the POT that wrote that note to you is featured on the Cover of this week's Sports Illustrated. I agree with Mike, they must look at it as a lottery ticket and, no matter what the odds, you can't win if you don't play.

[Mike7794]

"I want to be up front and just say if everything goes great and we have chemistry at the end of the day, I would not be looking for a one time thing. My ex was my only SD and I saw him once a week for 1 k per date. If I can find something close to that I would be happy and I'm well worth it So hypothetically if we click is this what you are ooking for? If so I can email pics asap".

If everything goes great?. If I could find something close to that I might decide to be a SB too. I have gotten a few of these 1 k proposals. Too funny.

Some of these girls get on the site and treat it as it is the lottery. They're really not real serious about being a SB, so if they hit then it's the jackpot for them.

[HollywoodGuy]

"I want to be up front and just say if everything goes great and we have chemistry at the end of the day, I would not be looking for a one time thing. My ex was my only SD and I saw him once a week for 1 k per date. If I can find something close to that I would be happy and I'm well worth it So hypothetically if we click is this what you are ooking for? If so I can email pics asap".

If everything goes great?. If I could find something close to that I might decide to be a SB too. I have gotten a few of these 1 k proposals. Too funny.