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  1. #7946
    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoForLife  [View Original Post]
    Unless you have exclusivity agreement with a provider, if I was to go in and tip her $200, she would now be "accepting" new clients. Glad you found someone that makes you happy, but I doubt anyone else except the most lonely out of shape slob would consider an almost 50 "drop dead gorgeous". Every other year, I go to the high end soapies in Bangkok. There you can get legit 20 yo porn / models for $250 USD.

    Having said that, TCC1 is open part time if you have the number. Someone is there twice a week on the down low.
    When you've been in this game a while you start to realize an experienced 40 something K-lady is an asset not a liability. If she still looks great, offers availability and a menu to your liking, that's a home run. Most of the younger ones offer a mechanical and standard play book. Besides, a K-lady in her forties is still about 20 years my junior.

  2. #7945
    After giving up on the AMP scene here in NoVA I decided to make the trip to PA for a popular KMP. Those guys have it great, true GFE experience with a legit low 20's spinner. TS, ST, DFK, etc. It was a long drive but definitely worth it. I can't see myself ever considering going to a place around here anymore.

    Quick question for you guys, are all appointments always to be made through MMS? Provider gave me her cell# but not sure what exactly I can do with it, besides find out when she is leaving for / coming back Korea.

    Stay safe.

  3. #7944
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1982

    IMHO, you've demonstrated PA's essential point

    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoForLife  [View Original Post]
    Unless you have exclusivity agreement with a provider, if I was to go in and tip her $200, she would now be "accepting" new clients. Glad you found someone that makes you happy, but I doubt anyone else except the most lonely out of shape slob would consider an almost 50 "drop dead gorgeous". Every other year, I go to the high end soapies in Bangkok. There you can get legit 20 yo porn / models for $250 USD.

    Having said that, TCC1 is open part time if you have the number. Someone is there twice a week on the down low.
    When PA posted about a "generational shift" my thoughts were that it applies equally to providers and hobbyists. You obviously prefer 20 yo porn-pretenders (that's my name for them because most of them do way too much fake moaning for my taste) while PA prefers a more mature experience. There's plenty of room in the hobby for both viewpoints and each one is equally valid to those who hold them.

    And while money generally talks, it doesn't necessarily follow that flashing cash will get you immediate access to all providers (especially UTR ones). My sense from PA's post is that he has gone the extra mile to develop a relationship with his ATF such that she is willing to do for him what she might not do for someone with whom she does not have that level of comfort or trust, no matter how much $ is offered.

    BTW, I've seen plenty of asian women in their 40's and 50's who would qualify as DDG in just about anyone's eyes. They age much better than most other races and, if you haven't had the pleasure of meeting one yet, that's unfortunate because they have a combination of looks, experience and authenticity that can take your breath away.

    So good luck on your next trip to Thailand and I sincerely hope your $250 USD (about 8,000+ baht) is for multiple hours because there are plenty of websites with young hotties offering 2+ hours and multiple pops for around 6000 baht.

  4. #7943
    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAviator  [View Original Post]
    Generational shift -- the 20-year olds are all of the internet generation (from the time of their birth, they had email, high-speed internet, I-tunes, etc. -- they do not know what a vinyl record, VHS-tape, or a standard music CD is for).

    They are more mobile and a bit more independent and are easily found on CL, BP and other listings, frequently working from "a convenient, upscale in-call near you. ".

    I know a few -- and I have visited a few of the convenient in-calls (not particularly up-scale in my experience) - and, FWIW, I prefer my ATF AMP and ATF provider.

    The AMP is fairly typical for NoVA -- one of about 10 or so within three miles of the exit I use to depart from the 395-corridor to my residence.

    My ATF-provider maintains the body of a 20-years-young vixen (what is it about some of these Asian women and their lack of body fat! If you look casually her face appears to be one you would expect to see on a young thirties -- look closer, and then you can see she is well over 40. And still drop-dead gorgeous. She has a work-ethic that I have learned is not-atypical of an independent K-girl and a sensual-spirit that the "young-uns" can't match. She is incredibly good (I would say gifted) as a massage technician, and admittedly, she is in this business for the money (tips).

    When I compare her qualities and superb service to other providers I wonder: a) why do I even look for other locations to try (answer because I am a monger. Sigh); and b) whether I am stingy because I tip others at "standard rates" and tip her at a level that is only one-notch above standard rates (and her superb service is "off-scale high".

    For those that decry NoVA for old providers and poor service. You are right to move-on to other locations or other hobbies.

    Whatever you decide, please remember to always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.

    P.S. My ATF is UTR, is not looking for additional clients. The AMP regularly advertises in all the usual outlets.
    Unless you have exclusivity agreement with a provider, if I was to go in and tip her $200, she would now be "accepting" new clients. Glad you found someone that makes you happy, but I doubt anyone else except the most lonely out of shape slob would consider an almost 50 "drop dead gorgeous". Every other year, I go to the high end soapies in Bangkok. There you can get legit 20 yo porn / models for $250 USD.

    Having said that, TCC1 is open part time if you have the number. Someone is there twice a week on the down low.

  5. #7942

    Better than fine wine or well-aged single malt

    Generational shift -- the 20-year olds are all of the internet generation (from the time of their birth, they had email, high-speed internet, I-tunes, etc. -- they do not know what a vinyl record, VHS-tape, or a standard music CD is for).

    They are more mobile and a bit more independent and are easily found on CL, BP and other listings, frequently working from "a convenient, upscale in-call near you. ".

    I know a few -- and I have visited a few of the convenient in-calls (not particularly up-scale in my experience) - and, FWIW, I prefer my ATF AMP and ATF provider.

    The AMP is fairly typical for NoVA -- one of about 10 or so within three miles of the exit I use to depart from the 395-corridor to my residence.

    My ATF-provider maintains the body of a 20-years-young vixen (what is it about some of these Asian women and their lack of body fat! If you look casually her face appears to be one you would expect to see on a young thirties -- look closer, and then you can see she is well over 40. And still drop-dead gorgeous. She has a work-ethic that I have learned is not-atypical of an independent K-girl and a sensual-spirit that the "young-uns" can't match. She is incredibly good (I would say gifted) as a massage technician, and admittedly, she is in this business for the money (tips).

    When I compare her qualities and superb service to other providers I wonder: a) why do I even look for other locations to try (answer because I am a monger. Sigh); and b) whether I am stingy because I tip others at "standard rates" and tip her at a level that is only one-notch above standard rates (and her superb service is "off-scale high".

    For those that decry NoVA for old providers and poor service. You are right to move-on to other locations or other hobbies.

    Whatever you decide, please remember to always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.

    P.S. My ATF is UTR, is not looking for additional clients. The AMP regularly advertises in all the usual outlets.

  6. #7941

    Might be the same

    Quote Originally Posted by JimRob  [View Original Post]
    I have enjoyed AMPs since the late 90's back in the day young hot girls, now it's nothing but old ladies with old smoker voices. I have tried like 10 this years and it's always the same. A lady near 50 and it's just not exciting anymore. Don't young girls like making money anymore, where are they?
    You might be looking at it all wrong. Those hot and sexy, young and flirty girls are still around. They just switched places and for the past 20 years. A girl named "Yumi" from Kinja or HWC 20 years ago probably is named "Coco" now.

    You are right. I wish the days of young sexy girls who would help you get dressed and undressed. Where you could find whatever the flavor on the back of the wash post sports page.

  7. #7940

    More on 7

    Went to Seven to get things straight. Kay was on the geriatric side, with mediocre massage skills and too-long thumbnails. Not a very encouraging visit, but there was no haggling over the tip. She was happy to get the standard.

  8. #7939

    RE; Zaza

    Quote Originally Posted by FunSex  [View Original Post]
    I have seen Zaza for several years. She is now working at a spa in Sterling. I went to see her and was somewhat disappointed. HE is not an option at the new place. Here was my report a few weeks ago: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post2192391 #4423

    PM me if you still want her number.
    Sorry for the long response time my friend. I was out of state for a little while. Thank you for the new info on Zaza. I will definitely go to see her soon.

    Propilot-Always check your six.

  9. #7938
    Quote Originally Posted by JimRob  [View Original Post]
    I have enjoyed AMPs since the late 90's back in the day young hot girls, now it's nothing but old ladies with old smoker voices. I have tried like 10 this years and it's always the same. A lady near 50 and it's just not exciting anymore. Don't young girls like making money anymore, where are they?
    The gals working in AMPs there days probably came here when the Korean economy was in the shitter. Korea's economy is very good now and has been for a while. One of these days there will be no more Korean AMPs. So enjoy it while you can.

    LexLuther.

  10. #7937

    Crystal City

    New to the area, RTFF, and then decided to try somewhere walking distance from the hotel I am in. While the weather was nice out today the Sunshine wasn't. Did a walk in, went for the hour. Provider was probably mid to late 30's (maybe older). Overall good massage for the. 60 but curtain only and several others coming and going during my time. Could hear front door, phone, others talking. Didn't ask for a name but she did brush the boys a couple times, didn't seem to mind my hand on her waist while she massaged my chest. Asked if I could extend the session a couple minutes for a tip at the end and she indicated my time was up. Guy taking money afterwards asked me for a tip when I handed him a straight. 60. I handed her a small tip and walked out. Probably not going to repeat.

  11. #7936
    Quote Originally Posted by Stranger1  [View Original Post]
    I'm new to the area. After I RTFF going back a month or two, I was disappointed in learning of higher house fees here, most providers nearing or over 40, and mostly hit or miss nova endings. Venturing a little further out of va, you could find a Golden opportunity to find a very decent provider under 30.
    Yeah I say go out of VA to Cali. Here is the 2nd armpit of over priced older mamas that expect 60 dolla to make you HJ LOL.

    Anyway, only Atlanta is prolly worse than here over all.

    PC out.

  12. #7935
    Quote Originally Posted by JimRob  [View Original Post]
    I have enjoyed AMPs since the late 90's back in the day young hot girls, now it's nothing but old ladies with old smoker voices. I have tried like 10 this years and it's always the same. A lady near 50 and it's just not exciting anymore. Don't young girls like making money anymore, where are they?
    I'm new to the area. After I RTFF going back a month or two, I was disappointed in learning of higher house fees here, most providers nearing or over 40, and mostly hit or miss nova endings. Venturing a little further out of va, you could find a Golden opportunity to find a very decent provider under 30.

  13. #7934

    Giving up on AMPs

    I have enjoyed AMPs since the late 90's back in the day young hot girls, now it's nothing but old ladies with old smoker voices. I have tried like 10 this years and it's always the same. A lady near 50 and it's just not exciting anymore. Don't young girls like making money anymore, where are they?

  14. #7933

    Visiting

    Hello nova friends.

    I'm going to be in the area next weekend on business and was wondering if you all had any suggestions for outcall to hotel massage providers. I'll be in the Arlington area I believe.

    Not looking for FS just massage for her to leave me very happy.

    Feel free to pm me any details or suggestions.

    Thanks and stay safe.

  15. #7932

    FC. But the names Arlington

    For a very good massage, and pleasurable massage experience, the center near the corners (they advertise on CL daily) is a no-hassle, good place.

    Very nice facility, easy parking, Standard rates (no TS, so less expensive than most everywhere else).

    I've seen several different providers (younger in age than you might expect) and each has provided a very good massage which left me relaxed and of better temperament.

    For keeping my costs down, this is a fine establishment for me when I am in that area, but as is true in all things.

    YMMV Alot.

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