Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[Marko Ramius]

Usually a "no DATY" provider is a provider that has a jealous and insecure boyfriend / manager / pimp.

[DrtyHarry]

It is unAmerican IMHO.

LOL did you mean DATY is unAmerican OR is refusing it / "charging extra for it" is unAmerican?

[DrtyHarry]

I have rarely been turned down for BBBJ.

Some are just more cautious.

I make it clear that I want that prior.

I have excellent refs. These women need money. All the hispanic travelling girls will do BBBJ. Many will do BBFS for upcharge. You just can't talk about it because if you do you may get blacklisted by the agency. So you got to be careful. The ones that stick around and dance at Kittens will do BBFS. Same rules apply. Columbians will be the best bet for BBFS.

Almost all the local long time providers do BBBJ. Their business is getting crushed by the hot travelling girls and the AMPs that charge 200-260 and may include BBFS for that.

Now my jam is rawdogging as many different chicks as possible. So I am willing to pay upcharges to get safety chicks to take creampies. I have one handle on tna that is a well known barebacker. I have several others with little activity. This gets the women to think the can lock me down and that I am not a big risk.

Just remember. Most have men or pimps in their lives. They don't like their girls taking loads. Girls know what is up tho.

Good intel here. Did not know Columbians were easier for BBFS or Kttens for that matter. I do not go to strip clubs, but always had the mental picture that if she dances, she will probably want a lot to do bare (Monse being the exception). Columbian. Just reminds me of Judge Cannon. Wonder if any of those Columbians are into cosplay.

[BbKingg]

Lots of providers not doing it or upcharging which I've only seen here. LA and SD scene completely different IME.

I have rarely been turned down for BBBJ.

Some are just more cautious.

I make it clear that I want that prior.

I have excellent refs. These women need money. All the hispanic travelling girls will do BBBJ. Many will do BBFS for upcharge. You just can't talk about it because if you do you may get blacklisted by the agency. So you got to be careful. The ones that stick around and dance at Kittens will do BBFS. Same rules apply. Columbians will be the best bet for BBFS.

Almost all the local long time providers do BBBJ. Their business is getting crushed by the hot travelling girls and the AMPs that charge 200-260 and may include BBFS for that.

Now my jam is rawdogging as many different chicks as possible. So I am willing to pay upcharges to get safety chicks to take creampies. I have one handle on tna that is a well known barebacker. I have several others with little activity. This gets the women to think the can lock me down and that I am not a big risk.

Just remember. Most have men or pimps in their lives. They don't like their girls taking loads. Girls know what is up tho.

[Nico]

Having been in relationships with a couple of since retired providers I will say this.

One said 90% of the BBFS information about her was true. The other said that she would do BBFS with regulars so most of it was true. They both said the one thing they hated were guys that just "expected it. " Especially new clients. This is what makes providers upset.

They wished the info was not out there but they understood why it was.

They thought that most of the information here was true.

The back channel information is strong. Most providers do BBFS.

Only a few long time managed women don't.
ocked to know who is or has been pimped.

100% truth right here.

[Runner2448]

Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.

Lots of providers not doing it or upcharging which I've only seen here. LA and SD scene completely different IME.

[TheRealSG]

Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.

It is unAmerican IMHO.

[Coke7890]

Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.

You never know what is out there.

I really enjoy DATY, but I'm even starting to worry if the risk is worth the reward.

[GoaThillBilly]

Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.

[DirtyFuk]

*Bursts out laughing*.

The white knight mentality could easily be some student's dissertation. Facts are that if one of those chicks on the other board thinks you're attractive, likes what you're packing and thinks it would be alright if you were one of her regulars, she's eventually going to climb on you bare.

Now are you still merely a walking & talking rent / mortgage payment? Definitely.

Does it potentially sweeten the deal if there's something about you that she likes? Also yes.

I am non of those and they still jump on bare. They like money.

[KitWalker1967]

"I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that."

*Bursts out laughing*.

The white knight mentality could easily be some student's dissertation. Facts are that if one of those chicks on the other board thinks you're attractive, likes what you're packing and thinks it would be alright if you were one of her regulars, she's eventually going to climb on you bare.

Now are you still merely a walking & talking rent / mortgage payment? Definitely.

Does it potentially sweeten the deal if there's something about you that she likes? Also yes.

[TheRealSG]

Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know everything over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me.

So, Information posted here has been very reliable for me. I'm not interested in every provider and so haven't seen a lot of the popular TNA providers talked about here on this board, so can't verify most of that. But information which you guys have sent via PM or shared in the open regarding providers I have visited has been dead-on.

How about the rest of you?

Having been in relationships with a couple of since retired providers I will say this.

One said 90% of the BBFS information about her was true. The other said that she would do BBFS with regulars so most of it was true. They both said the one thing they hated were guys that just "expected it. " Especially new clients. This is what makes providers upset.

They wished the info was not out there but they understood why it was.

They thought that most of the information here was true.

The back channel information is strong. Most providers do BBFS.

Only a few long time managed women don't.

My personal experience over the years twll me that.

When I used to hobby, I was rarely denied it if I requested.

LilyWhite said no to me. Maria Sanchez never offered it.

Several offered it first visit. Most times it took 2 or 3 visits.

Be careful who you bareback. Some of these providers think they own you if they are giving you BBFS. One lost her shit when she found put I was barebacking her best friend in the ass. LOL. Not my best day.

If I were still hobbying, I would take the information with a grain of salt. Just because you read here that a provider does BBFS does not mean she does it for everone.

If I read one member reporting it over and over for one woman, I tend to think it is not true until I see multiple reports.

They will call the guys here creeps. Which is true. We are all perverts.

The reality is, they shouldn't be taking loads and sucking dick for money if the don't want tgeir business put there.

& don't get me started on the pimp conversation. You would be shocked to know who is or has been pimped. (don't ask me. I am out of the hobby and don't have relevent info.).

[ScotchYoke]

Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know everything over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me.

So, Information posted here has been very reliable for me. I'm not interested in every provider and so haven't seen a lot of the popular TNA providers talked about here on this board, so can't verify most of that. But information which you guys have sent via PM or shared in the open regarding providers I have visited has been dead-on.

How about the rest of you?

Bro,

You. Fucking. Nailed it.

The simping is real over there. Somehow they all think having the "mommy's good little boy" attitude and defending their honor, and tattling over every little BBFS report is going to curry favor with a bunch of hookers who could NOT care less about simps as human beings, only as dollar signs. To answer your question, I've found most of the info here to be reliable enough to make or break decisions. I only use TNA to verify that a woman is real and won't rob me. Once in a while I'll dm a monger there who posted a review of a certain girl I'm interested in and I'll ask if she's friendly to certain topics and most of the time I get a response back. The only one tna girl I see anymore is one who grandfathered me into a good rate for quick visits. The rest I want to see are some of the lovely Thai ladies who have all moved to Bellevue, but that's too far away for me to go when my availability opens up to go for visits.

[HoochiePapa]

A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response.

That's the funniest shit I've heard all day. Most guys don't even know what tf their own girl is up to and yet they know a working girl because she told them a few things about herself that may or may not be true? Agreed, the other board is full of deluded bastards that you'd catch in those old vhs matchmaking tapes from back in the day. From a "connection" all you want, the girls will always prefer guys like me who get in and get out. No drama. A lot of them need to check out are / client cringe and see what they really think about you. While it gets annoying seeing the same people posting, I assume the users interacting 24/7 on there are retirees or living off disability so I don't really pay them any mind.

[WaRubMonger]

Question. How reliable has information which is posted on this board been for you guys?

I ask because lately I've been posting more on TNA and I've received some PMs from some of the more known members over there telling me that information they read here isn't reliable. One said that I should be "careful" about what I read (LOL). I've challenged a few, asking about which type of info is bad. A specific provider barebacking or some other rumors? Most have insisted that the barebacking information isn't true, that's when I ask how they know that for sure since they aren't in the bedroom when the provider sees clients. A couple of them have gotten really pissed when I asked that question but they can't ever give a straight answer, instead falling-back on the "I KNOW her and she wouldn't do that" response. Some of those fuckwads really think they know everything over there, thinking that the more they post and argue on an internet board the more power and influence they have over the scene. I've noticed that a few of them hang around that board all day long as if they have nothing else to do with their lives, feeding their superiority complexes by out-posting others and running them over with words. They definitely don't like it whenever I post over there that information posted here has been 100% accurate for me.

I can count on one hand how many usernames I believe what they post.