Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[FireBall99]

I have had decent success on SB but SA has been mostly bots and scammers. It's really a numbers game you talk to 20 to meet 1 or 2.

Uh oh. I haven't been on SA in about a year. Sounds like things have changed quite a bit. I used to be able to pull 25 solid leads off of there in a single month. Damn.

[Willu11]

If Galt guy isn't scoring, that doomz a Beta male like me, LOL. I got back on SA this spring after a 2-year hiatus and Galt is right on the money! 2017 was the golden age.

I have had decent success on SB but SA has been mostly bots and scammers. It's really a numbers game you talk to 20 to meet 1 or 2.

[BobVac21]

For quite a while, I thought of myself as a sort of SB Svengali. I knew what I liked, had gotten pretty good at separating wheat from chaff, and had an almost 100% success rate once I met someone in person. Then I settled in for almost three years with a 30-year-old MILF and former college athlete. Who had 3 primary things she was seeking: (1) to feel wanted, (2) exciting experiences and (3) wild fucking sex. We had incredible freaking trips. Italy, a Super Bowl, tons of weekends in Miami. Sex anywhere you could imagine, including hotel rooftop pools with people only feet away from us. Fuckkkk.

Eventually, however, she decided there was a 4th she she wanted: a new husband. (Yes, she was married.) from DayOne I made it clear that I was not a possible husband. And she didn't want one, so that was great. But. Well. Things change. And she changed her mind.

Anyway, to make a long story even longer and more boring. But hopefully to get me back around to the point of my post. We eventually called it quits a year or so ago. And in he 3 years I wasn't active on SA, that place changed. Or, I my skills got horribly rusty. Maybe I got spoiled and subconsciously think I can replace my previous arrangement. Intellectually, I know not to try to do that. But maybe my bar is too high. Or maybe I'm not used to SO many fake profiles and (what appear to be real) profiles seeking a traditional boyfriend. (As MILFMan has well-explained, the SA CEO, currently doing a very good Bill Belichick impersonation, has said the target market of the SA site has changed.).

SA has been a frustrating and massive waste of my time lately.

And I don't want any of you guys mad at me, but I don't even mind some moderate amount of GPS. That is, I'm not getting irritated because I can't find 22year-old college graduate spinners who want to suck this old man's pecker for $150. When I find something I like, I'm willing to pay a somewhat premium price in order to keep it. In business, it's always harder to find a new customer than it is to keep an existing one- so I am willing to pay a little more in order not to have to repeatedly go back to the SA well.

Anyway, my last 18-24 months have really sucked (in the bad way.) FC'd a few attractive SA gals, but they all had massive "issues" that made them unattractive for anything ongoing. There are some absolute fuck freaks on the site. Many of them have been there for years. But I haven't met any I'd want to spend 48 consecutive hours with.

My short term solution has been "massage" providers. FR & MMS, most frequently. I can't even find a dependable rub-and-tug girl to do outcall.

Oh well. I apologize for the long post. I just needed to vent today, and now I realize this probably belonged in the "Tricks and rants" thread.

If Galt guy isn't scoring, that doomz a Beta male like me, LOL. I got back on SA this spring after a 2-year hiatus and Galt is right on the money! 2017 was the golden age.

[Member #6682]

For quite a while, I thought of myself as a sort of SB Svengali. I knew what I liked, had gotten pretty good at separating wheat from chaff, and had an almost 100% success rate once I met someone in person. Then I settled in for almost three years with a 30-year-old MILF and former college athlete. Who had 3 primary things she was seeking: (1) to feel wanted, (2) exciting experiences and (3) wild fucking sex. We had incredible freaking trips. Italy, a Super Bowl, tons of weekends in Miami. Sex anywhere you could imagine, including hotel rooftop pools with people only feet away from us. Fuckkkk.

Eventually, however, she decided there was a 4th she she wanted: a new husband. (Yes, she was married.) from DayOne I made it clear that I was not a possible husband. And she didn't want one, so that was great. But. Well. Things change. And she changed her mind.

Anyway, to make a long story even longer and more boring. But hopefully to get me back around to the point of my post. We eventually called it quits a year or so ago. And in he 3 years I wasn't active on SA, that place changed. Or, I my skills got horribly rusty. Maybe I got spoiled and subconsciously think I can replace my previous arrangement. Intellectually, I know not to try to do that. But maybe my bar is too high. Or maybe I'm not used to SO many fake profiles and (what appear to be real) profiles seeking a traditional boyfriend. (As MILFMan has well-explained, the SA CEO, currently doing a very good Bill Belichick impersonation, has said the target market of the SA site has changed.).

SA has been a frustrating and massive waste of my time lately.

And I don't want any of you guys mad at me, but I don't even mind some moderate amount of GPS. That is, I'm not getting irritated because I can't find 22year-old college graduate spinners who want to suck this old man's pecker for $150. When I find something I like, I'm willing to pay a somewhat premium price in order to keep it. In business, it's always harder to find a new customer than it is to keep an existing one- so I am willing to pay a little more in order not to have to repeatedly go back to the SA well.

Anyway, my last 18-24 months have really sucked (in the bad way.) FC'd a few attractive SA gals, but they all had massive "issues" that made them unattractive for anything ongoing. There are some absolute fuck freaks on the site. Many of them have been there for years. But I haven't met any I'd want to spend 48 consecutive hours with.

My short term solution has been "massage" providers. FR & MMS, most frequently. I can't even find a dependable rub-and-tug girl to do outcall.

Oh well. I apologize for the long post. I just needed to vent today, and now I realize this probably belonged in the "Tricks and rants" thread.

SA isn't changing. Women are bro.

[Macintn]

You are absolutely correct GaltGuy. I have been on the site for awhile now and have witnessed it's continued downward spiral. I am now getting messages from women my age or older who think SA is a freakin dating site. There are many fake profile, usually given away by model like pics from Ten Mile, TN or Rogersville, TN or some other small town that you know there's no way she actually lives there. Also, the ones from jumbled up locations. If you do happen to find a local gal who isn't a pro she's only wanting to be your online friend. At least some spell that out in their profile to reduce the wasted time. I also don't mind paying for quality but my pockets aren't as deep as yours from reading your post. LOL. I'd like to get off there but really have no idea if anything else exists.

[GaltGuy]

For quite a while, I thought of myself as a sort of SB Svengali. I knew what I liked, had gotten pretty good at separating wheat from chaff, and had an almost 100% success rate once I met someone in person. Then I settled in for almost three years with a 30-year-old MILF and former college athlete. Who had 3 primary things she was seeking: (1) to feel wanted, (2) exciting experiences and (3) wild fucking sex. We had incredible freaking trips. Italy, a Super Bowl, tons of weekends in Miami. Sex anywhere you could imagine, including hotel rooftop pools with people only feet away from us. Fuckkkk.

Eventually, however, she decided there was a 4th she she wanted: a new husband. (Yes, she was married.) from DayOne I made it clear that I was not a possible husband. And she didn't want one, so that was great. But. Well. Things change. And she changed her mind.

Anyway, to make a long story even longer and more boring. But hopefully to get me back around to the point of my post. We eventually called it quits a year or so ago. And in he 3 years I wasn't active on SA, that place changed. Or, I my skills got horribly rusty. Maybe I got spoiled and subconsciously think I can replace my previous arrangement. Intellectually, I know not to try to do that. But maybe my bar is too high. Or maybe I'm not used to SO many fake profiles and (what appear to be real) profiles seeking a traditional boyfriend. (As MILFMan has well-explained, the SA CEO, currently doing a very good Bill Belichick impersonation, has said the target market of the SA site has changed.).

SA has been a frustrating and massive waste of my time lately.

And I don't want any of you guys mad at me, but I don't even mind some moderate amount of GPS. That is, I'm not getting irritated because I can't find 22–year-old college graduate spinners who want to suck this old man's pecker for $150. When I find something I like, I'm willing to pay a somewhat premium price in order to keep it. In business, it's always harder to find a new customer than it is to keep an existing one- so I am willing to pay a little more in order not to have to repeatedly go back to the SA well.

Anyway, my last 18-24 months have really sucked (in the bad way.) FC'd a few attractive SA gals, but they all had massive "issues" that made them unattractive for anything ongoing. There are some absolute fuck freaks on the site. Many of them have been there for years. But I haven't met any I'd want to spend 48 consecutive hours with.

My short term solution has been "massage" providers. FR & MMS, most frequently. I can't even find a dependable rub-and-tug girl to do outcall.

Oh well. I apologize for the long post. I just needed to vent today, and now I realize this probably belonged in the "Tricks and rants" thread.

[Niterider450]

Well since there is no Canada, NC, only a forest area that has the name.

Canada, yes they mostly are fake. Actually, 80% of the women on there have no desire to meet even if They are who they say they are. Seeking also added a feature that below the pic lists where they claim is home and where they are now.

This helps, as I was talking to one who said she is Knoxville but her current location said France. But they are already getting around this with VPN.

There are also several profiles from Ten Mile, TN. Only 500 people live in Ten Mile. Did a bus full of hot ass single girls get dropped in Ten Mile? No, it's mainly
all one girl. I talked to her and I busted her on most of her claims and fake pics she steals. Like all of them, they are happy to waste huge amounts of time and lies for
$50 cash app. Thanks to all the desperate, lonely men who want to believe so so bad that if they give them cash they will really come fuck them, they have and continue
to ruin the whole SD / SB scene too. To all you desperate, lonely, fragile men paying for PICTURES and VIDEO and enabling these girls, you are the catalyst and it will only get worse. No matter how much "content" you buy, they aren't going to show up at your door, wake up guys (you know who you are). Seeking isn't even worth spending money on anymore. Maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 are traditional SB. The other are all content who*es. DAMN YOU ONLYFANS! I hate you for what you have done to this world. Before long your grandmothers going to have an onlyfans and no cute girls will be working anywhere, all of them will just be at home manipulating and collecting money from the sad, desperate men who want to believe. The enabler men should be ashamed at how weak you are. Again, quit buying content!!! Or just forget real life meets period.

I noticed that too about Canada NC; there are tons of fakes using that community and I am not sure why they chose it; it is a real place though but it is just a community way back in the mountains above Sylva NC and takes about an hour to get to, but probably none of those girls live there.

[Verbatim48]

Artfully articulated brother. If this forum had a "like" feature, I would have pressed it on your contribution. If you run across "Michelle-Gilf of your Dreams" on OF, you can check that 70+ year old OF provider off of your list. The game has changed to where all of the gals seek everything for nothing. A sad state of affairs going forward..

I actually got the honor and privilege of inseminating her BBFS back in Oct 2022 when I was in New Orleans, right before she packed up and moved to California to do OF full time. That was a nice checkbox on my list.

[WestCoastKnox]

Artfully articulated brother. If this forum had a "like" feature, I would have pressed it on your contribution. If you run across "Michelle-Gilf of your Dreams" on OF, you can check that 70+ year old OF provider off of your list. The game has changed to where all of the gals seek everything for nothing. A sad state of affairs going forward.

Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,

Milfman.

Appreciate it Milfman. I know you know quite well that the landscape is changing dramatically by the year in every direction. And no, not all hope is lost, there are still "traditional SB's" as one girl referred to herself as, you just have to navigate the Russian troll swamp to find them. She told me that a "traditional SB" refers to those that still believe in upholding the real life arrangement. Now, let's be realistic here. Once the "movement" to preserve "traditional SB's" coins a term for it, then that is confirmation this is slowly dying, the beginning of the end. Goodbye craigslist, goodbye back page, good bye 50 other random fringe sites that used to be, goodbye SB sites soon? Well here we are barreling straight back to 1950 with a vengeance. So much for any progress.

[BBtie72]

I was planning a long post to share a recent encounter but I'm going to save this one for a while. Don't loose faith. The sugar world is still alive and well. It just takes a little more time and patience. The gorgeous thirty something MILF I just sent home with more than one hole full is proof.

[RyanRivera]

I swear, I think every profile in Rogersville, TN and Canada, NC is fake. Maybe someone / thing is aut Magically creating fake profiles from IP addresses in those areas?

All dating sites or apps do this unfortunately. They either generate the profiles en masse in-house or they let third parties do so to solve the chicken and egg problem all dating sites or even classified / marketplace sites face: need people on both sides in other to attract audience.

And it appears they are not generating new profile locations proportional to population centers so a lot of those town names that none of the locals ever use are absolutely a sign of bulk profile creation.

[MilfMan865]

I swear, I think every profile in Rogersville, TN and Canada, NC is fake. Maybe someone / thing is aut Magically creating fake profiles from IP addresses in those areas?

Thanks to all the desperate, lonely men who want to believe so so bad that if they give them cash they will really come fuck them, they have and continue
to ruin the whole SD / SB scene too. To all you desperate, lonely, fragile men paying for PICTURES and VIDEO and enabling these girls, you are the catalyst and it will only get worse. No matter how much "content" you buy, they aren't going to show up at your door, wake up guys (you know who you are). Seeking isn't even worth spending money on anymore. Maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 are traditional SB. The other are all content who*es. DAMN YOU ONLYFANS! I hate you for what you have done to this world. Before long your grandmothers going to have an onlyfans and no cute girls will be working anywhere, all of them will just be at home manipulating and collecting money from the sad, desperate men who want to believe. The enabler men should be ashamed at how weak you are. Again, quit buying content!!! Or just forget real life meets period.

Artfully articulated brother. If this forum had a "like" feature, I would have pressed it on your contribution. If you run across "Michelle-Gilf of your Dreams" on OF, you can check that 70+ year old OF provider off of your list. The game has changed to where all of the gals seek everything for nothing. A sad state of affairs going forward.

Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,

Milfman.

[WestCoastKnox]

I swear, I think every profile in Rogersville, TN and Canada, NC is fake. Maybe someone / thing is aut Magically creating fake profiles from IP addresses in those areas?

Well since there is no Canada, NC, only a forest area that has the name.

Canada, yes they mostly are fake. Actually, 80% of the women on there have no desire to meet even if They are who they say they are. Seeking also added a feature that below the pic lists where they claim is home and where they are now.

This helps, as I was talking to one who said she is Knoxville but her current location said France. But they are already getting around this with VPN.

There are also several profiles from Ten Mile, TN. Only 500 people live in Ten Mile. Did a bus full of hot ass single girls get dropped in Ten Mile? No, it's mainly
all one girl. I talked to her and I busted her on most of her claims and fake pics she steals. Like all of them, they are happy to waste huge amounts of time and lies for
$50 cash app. Thanks to all the desperate, lonely men who want to believe so so bad that if they give them cash they will really come fuck them, they have and continue
to ruin the whole SD / SB scene too. To all you desperate, lonely, fragile men paying for PICTURES and VIDEO and enabling these girls, you are the catalyst and it will only get worse. No matter how much "content" you buy, they aren't going to show up at your door, wake up guys (you know who you are). Seeking isn't even worth spending money on anymore. Maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 are traditional SB. The other are all content who*es. DAMN YOU ONLYFANS! I hate you for what you have done to this world. Before long your grandmothers going to have an onlyfans and no cute girls will be working anywhere, all of them will just be at home manipulating and collecting money from the sad, desperate men who want to believe. The enabler men should be ashamed at how weak you are. Again, quit buying content!!! Or just forget real life meets period.

[GaltGuy]

I swear, I think every profile in Rogersville, TN and Canada, NC is fake. Maybe someone / thing is aut Magically creating fake profiles from IP addresses in those areas?

[Willu11]

IMO secret benefits is much better than seeking. Seeking seems to have so many fakes and time wasters. Secret is a numbers game, but I have had great luck finding real ladies that want like to meet.

Hello gentlemen,

I will be visiting your fine state in a few weeks and have been doing my research on who's going to keep me company during my stay at Gatlinburg. So far I haven't had any luck finding attractive ladies of the night in that area and seems pretty dry. However it seems like a couple of you had luck finding some hotties using seeking. I see you got to pay for a membership so before I shelled out that money just wanted your guy's opinion if it would be a good fit for me even though I will only be heading over for a few days. I'm not really used to these dating sites, I'm more of a hit a girl up then pump and dump kind of guy don't really like engaging in texting trying to "get to know each other better". I don't mind the "getting to know each other" in person, I'm just a horrible texter. But let me know what y'all think! Also open to any suggestions for traditional providers if you got one.