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HIndsight is 20/20. This could have been alot worse so I have that to be grateful for. She cash and dashed on me but I only gave half upfront. A year ago I used to help her thinking she would get clean from the pills but when she started doing crack I wiped my hands clean. She called and texted for several days saying she would have to start working Ridgewood if she didn't get help. I fell for it but was cautious. Long story but when I gave her half of what we agreed upon she cried like a river saying she had to talk to driver. I had her leave purse and phone and two minutes after she came back her "driver" knocked on the door. I opened it to let it know I wasn't scared of his cracked out face and stoopid tattoo on the left side of his neck. While I was talking with him she ran out the garage and poof they were gone. I believe they had this planned the whole time so like I said could've been worse. The better pics are before the crack.
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This girl is Tried to see this gal but it is a legit scam. Do not see. I was able to get deductive and save my $300 for my hour.
What are the flags:
Willing to do everything.
Said she was nearby (google maps).
Could not send a pic of just her holding time and date. Just pic pulls from FB.
Offered ways to verify I have the funds but no go. She wanted all the codes (yea right).
Legit scam.
See? Was this hard? Kinda but at least I'm hunting for my brothers.
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[QUOTE=TRowePrice;2210173]This girl is Tried to see this gal but it is a legit scam. Do not see. I was able to get deductive and save my $300 for my hour.
What are the flags:
Willing to do everything.
Said she was nearby (google maps).
Could not send a pic of just her holding time and date. Just pic pulls from FB.
Offered ways to verify I have the funds but no go. She wanted all the codes (yea right).
Legit scam.
See? Was this hard? Kinda but at least I'm hunting for my brothers.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/classifieds/EnlargeImage?oid=11110258&image=11110407[/URL][/QUOTE]Good catch. I was thinking about seeing her, not now. Thanks.
I had a provider cancel on me when I was in her parking lot. I called Britney to TOFTT she showed up over an hour late. She operates the scam out of Lake Mary.
Not the girl in the pictures and not even close. She is fat, bleach blonde frizzy hair. Body odor. Bad and crooked teeth. Dresses conspicuously like trailer trash. Nasty sweatshirt with very short shorts crammed up her crack and flip flops. In January.
She came in my room (and I thought oh-oh WTF). She grabbed 2 $ and said anything close to full service would be an up-charge. I told her to return the money and leave (I would have paid her something just to get rid of the nightmare). She told me. Now get this. She didn't have the money and didn't know what happened to it. LOL, I never got the money back but I got rid of her. I chalked it up for the team.
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386 XXX 0543 advert on craigslist "perfect 10". Showed up, at house on juniper. Put gift on dresser, she left to go to washroom, never returned. A few minutes later man came into the house and asked what I was doing there and who invited me. Left with my cash and no further hassle, beware.
Good day my brothers from other mothers.
Be On the Look Out for Felicia. Ohh rilley? Yes really. She a Blonde 5' 3" about 100 lbs. PM me for actuals'. She a dash kinda gal. Kinda nice looking. But straight up thief! She walks the South of the Ridge. Might be traveling with her boyfriend. Ohh rilley? Yes really! Stop acting that way. Why would any dude that cared about his girl let them into this business? IDK rilley I don't.
Be safe.
T-Man.
[QUOTE=Topherman;2350426]Good day my brothers from other mothers.
Be On the Look Out for Felicia. Ohh rilley? Yes really. She a Blonde 5' 3" about 100 lbs. PM me for actuals'. She a dash kinda gal. Kinda nice looking. But straight up thief! She walks the South of the Ridge. Might be traveling with her boyfriend. Ohh rilley? Yes really! Stop acting that way. Why would any dude that cared about his girl let them into this business? IDK rilley I don't.
Be safe.
T-Man.[/QUOTE]She got picked up in a sweep on Tuesday!
[QUOTE=SnowBird1;2349888]386 XXX 0543 advert on craigslist "perfect 10". Showed up, at house on juniper. Put gift on dresser, she left to go to washroom, never returned. A few minutes later man came into the house and asked what I was doing there and who invited me. Left with my cash and no further hassle, beware.[/QUOTE]THANK YOU FOR THE INFO! I came this close to seeing this * this evening but thanks to you and your intel it saved me $80.00, I'm sorry that you had to get ripped off. I'm going to try to upload a pic she sent me to see if the pic is really her, again thanks.
[QUOTE=STrain;2350445]She got picked up in a sweep on Tuesday![/QUOTE]I don't see that. Don't wish it. Just wish she was legit!
T-Man.
[QUOTE=Topherman;2351221]I don't see that. Don't wish it. Just wish she was legit!
T-Man.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.news-journalonline.com/ar...01/0/FRONTPAGE[/URL]
Ok gents, I am posting this here as it will get everyone's attention. There are two old ripoff artists, and cash and dash pros who disappear and reappear every couple of years, close to this date. First warning comes from the resurgence of their profiles on other sites, followed by BP ads. So far these two have already updated their status, and they are bad news.
I will start with the lesser of two evils. Jaycee - she used to get lukewarm reviews at first, and these just went downhill. Digits start with 786-564- * HEr oics showed a blonde, with tattoos, pierced lips, and other body art. Kind of gave you a bad girl vibe. Do not be fooled, as the pics were from when she started, close to perhaps 4 or 5 years ago. Weight settled in, and so did Mr Manager. She was upsell, upsell, upsell all the way. BBBJ extra, body touch extra, more than one yoga position extra. Cash also had a tendency to gain a life of its own and walk out of your pockets. I did not have any encounters with manager, but she did mention the bf angry at her and that is why she needs to upsell. Manager, duh! As for my incredible, and amazing walking cash, well I did miss it, but a ten is hardly something I will go back to cry about, rather I deducted it as a reminder to not see her again. Avoid.
The worse of all my experiences. Bella - 386-216-0144. Full digits as this one is one dangerous lady. Rather than to make all of you go back on my posts, or revisits the plethora of pm's regarding her, I will give you a rundown: BAd seedy place (back then in Sanford), butch gf who made the medicine runs, unkempt room, unkempt body, stink everywhere. She was a dead fish, with some be. O. Coming from the Starkist cannery, and to top it all off, I lost an extra. 6, taken from my pockets. Note: Only idiot to blame is me, period. I did all of the worst rookie mistakes in one morning! It can happen to all of us so please be alert and avoid her. She has a reserved suite at the graybar hotel, and other terrible issues.
Be safe!
[QUOTE=STrain;2351252][URL]http://www.news-journalonline.com/ar...01/0/FRONTPAGE[/URL][/QUOTE]Link don't work.
T-Man.
[QUOTE=WilliamMstrs;2361226]Ok gents, I am posting this here as it will get everyone's attention. There are two old ripoff artists, and cash and dash pros who disappear and reappear every couple of years, close to this date. First warning comes from the resurgence of their profiles on other sites, followed by BP ads. So far these two have already updated their status, and they are bad news.
I will start with the lesser of two evils. Jaycee - she used to get lukewarm reviews at first, and these just went downhill. Digits start with 786-564- * HEr oics showed a blonde, with tattoos, pierced lips, and other body art. Kind of gave you a bad girl vibe. Do not be fooled, as the pics were from when she started, close to perhaps 4 or 5 years ago. Weight settled in, and so did Mr Manager. She was upsell, upsell, upsell all the way. BBBJ extra, body touch extra, more than one yoga position extra. Cash also had a tendency to gain a life of its own and walk out of your pockets. I did not have any encounters with manager, but she did mention the bf angry at her and that is why she needs to upsell. Manager, duh! As for my incredible, and amazing walking cash, well I did miss it, but a ten is hardly something I will go back to cry about, rather I deducted it as a reminder to not see her again. Avoid.
The worse of all my experiences. Bella - 386-216-0144. Full digits as this one is one dangerous lady. Rather than to make all of you go back on my posts, or revisits the plethora of pm's regarding her, I will give you a rundown: BAd seedy place (back then in Sanford), butch gf who made the medicine runs, unkempt room, unkempt body, stink everywhere. She was a dead fish, with some be. O. Coming from the Starkist cannery, and to top it all off, I lost an extra. 6, taken from my pockets. Note: Only idiot to blame is me, period. I did all of the worst rookie mistakes in one morning! It can happen to all of us so please be alert and avoid her. She has a reserved suite at the graybar hotel, and other terrible issues.
Be safe![/QUOTE]She is working at lollipops now got the # was offered to she was sexy and a very good table dance glad I held off on the to order.
Bella is at lollipops.
[QUOTE=EvinRuder;2368899]She is working at lollipops now got the # was offered to she was sexy and a very good table dance glad I held off on the to order.[/QUOTE]You did well. Not a good time, perhaps only good for the table dance. If you open that fortune cookie the wrong way, you may get a bad fortune indeed.
It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.
[QUOTE=GreenN386;2375326]It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.[/QUOTE]I would also suggest that before she even come to the room let her know that once she's in your room, she's not leaving with your money until the session is up. Period. And once she's in the room, her phone goes on silent. Be firm but polite, let her know who is in control. And if you have a burner smartphone, use a countdown app and prop the phone up so its in clear view of both parties. Oh and always be prepared with raincoats, latex and non latex. How many ripoffs start with.. "oh I forgot the condoms in the car, let me go get them".
[QUOTE=GreenN386;2375326]It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.[/QUOTE]Great advice Green!!
[QUOTE=GreenN386;2375326]It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.[/QUOTE]Listen up rooks.
[QUOTE=GreenN386;2375326]It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.[/QUOTE]Something that popped up in the o town board. IF ever you get to experience a bad dream, don't be intimidated by any threat of the provider exposing any of your info. If you followed the above your info is not at risk, but still you may feel it is safer to give in. Do not! The rules here forbid posting personal info, and A2 is good at catching this, otherwise hit the report post button, and he will see it.
And of course the rule that should be a law of Monger Physics: 'He who recklessly thinks with little head, ends up getting the big one handed to him, along with his arse, on a platter'.
I recently installed a free app on my phone that simulates a burn phone. I still haven't used it with a provider but it seems like it works well. It would be nice not to carry 2 phones when I dream. This is also a good alternative to a real burn phone if you don't have one yet. Check it out. [URL]http://www.burnerapp.com/[/URL] or you can get it at Google Play Store or Apple App Store.
Just something to also ponder. I agree with everything preciously stated except one: Giving the girl a fake name. It's a good idea but I've had a 2 different providers, in 2 different cities, call back the hotel, speak to the front desk and ask for my room by the fake name I gave them. No go. Both dates canceled when no such name was registered. I just moved on to plan be both times. This did not happen in our area. Most decent hotels ask for your I'd and credit card when checking in and this may slow things down if the girl does check. Granted, a majority of providers will not do this but it's something else to think about.
[QUOTE=GreenN386;2375326]It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.[/QUOTE]I use this as my bible and it has kept me safe, free and happy!
Saw the post and recognized the one pic. She has gotten bad reviews so be careful. She is using a diff # and a Google search shows it connected to screening business in PO.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/hurry-i-am-only-here-for-a-few-days/12045090[/URL]
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-sweet-sexy-sam/12225381[/URL]
Doing a little checking can save you a lot of hassle.
[QUOTE=MikeRigsby;2394348]I use this as my bible and it has kept me safe, free and happy![/QUOTE]All I can say this has been the best set of cliff notes to date, and I look forward to any future post thank you.
[QUOTE=GreenN386;2375326]It seems that there has been an increase in mongers getting ripped off or robbed in Daytona lately. So I'the thought I'the write a bit about some of the things that I do to lessen the odds of becoming a victim. What I will write is what I do everytime I dream with a provider. 38 providers later and I've yet to have a problem. I don't have much time and may forget some things or may have not thought of some things. So let me know what you think. I'm interested in what other mongers do for security or if they have any security tips for the forum.
This is not about having sex or making love. This is about tactical fucking. LOL.
What you need:
1) A burn phone:
They are cheap and worth it. This will help keep your true I'd a secret. The more they know about you the higher the odds of harassment and extortion.
2) A gun and CCW permit:
Always carry your weapon when seeing these girls. Just because you're committing a misdemeanor doesn't mean you have to give up your natural right to defend yourself or your legal right to bear arms. Keep the weapon on you when answering the door then keep it with in reach while doing the deed. (You don't need your CCW permit to carry a concealed weapon in a home or motel) (Castle doctrine applies in your motel room just as if it were your home).
Where it should go down:
In a motel room that you got for the night. Always make the provider come to you. This puts so much in your favor. It's worth the money to lessen the chance of being robbed or becoming a victim of a cash and dash. Once you're the victim you lose so much more then just your hard earned money.
Prep work / Intel:
1) RTFF! There's so much knowledge and intel on here.
2) Check the phone number. Google "escort phone search" with the number. This lets me know what cities they've been in etc. To help establish their credibility and to see if it's a scam. Then go to Facebook and search the number. A lot of times you will get their Facebook page. That could lead to their real name, arrest record and so on.
3) Check the pictures in the ad using Google images and TinEye etc. Live escort reviews is also a good site to check out pics and phone numbers all linked together.
Phone conversation:
Now you've picked out the provider, obtained a motel room and there were no major red flags found when gathering intel. Here are two basic rules to use when calling her on your burn phone.
1) Never give your real name.
2) Never talk about sex and if they do, they are a liability or a cop.
Secure the room and prepare yourself:
You may need a good place to put your weapon after the provider arrives and you've secured the door. Now's the time to find it!
1) Make sure your screen is locked on your phone and requires a pin to unlock it. (Burn phone or not) Be sure to erase the browser history on the phone too! (Just incase LE gets their hands on it).
2) Only have the amount of money that was agreed upon for the dream on you or in the room. Also keep the debit cards and credit cards at home. (I just have my license, CCW permit and cash on me when having a dream).
She has arrived:
You should try to keep your weapon out of sight. Just keep it in your waistband when answering the door then when the pants come off just toss the shirt over them and the gun and keep it all close to you.
You should secure the door behind her once she comes in. Lock every lock on the door. This means multiple steps to get the door open which will take more time. This combined with never letting her out of your sight helps to prevent any cash and dash attempts.
Now just do what comes natural. Cop checks, pay before or pay after. It's all up to you. The stage has been set, with so much more in your favor (then if you went to an incall) it should be easier to relax.
These were some very simple and basic tips that are worth the extra time, money and effort to help keep from becoming a victim.
Last but not least; don't ever trust these girls, give them your real name or tell them what you do for a living. This is a transaction and mongers will always be tricks in their eyes, no matter what they say or how sweet they seem. Also never be intimidated by a provider or their management. If push comes to shove stand your ground. By any means.[/QUOTE]Well, I damn sure just learned some things. Thanks Bro.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/looking-for-fun/12583818[/URL]
Was going good. Did cop check everything else. Then as we get started, a black (holding 2 knives) and white dude walk in. I knew I'd been had. So I dressed and left without saying another word.
Damage = $.
Be safe.
[QUOTE=Gggood9;2457598][URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/looking-for-fun/12583818[/URL]
Was going good. Did cop check everything else. Then as we get started, a black (holding 2 knives) and white dude walk in. I knew I'd been had. So I dressed and left without saying another word.
Damage = $.
Be safe.[/QUOTE]No one can make you A VICTIM. UNLESS YOU let them. Many of us will only do outcalls with first time visits. Then you control what happens not vice versa. Search a post by Green. He explains in detail the safest way to accomplish the goal. Green N 386 is his handle. Actually just read below post #28. Its right there.
Hey guys, first time posting. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on a provider I saw recently. She goes by many names in her ads, but mainly Mindy. The two phone numbers I received from her (yeah, I should have known) were 754-XXX-1027 and 386-XXX-3577. Met her at the scuzzy Days Inn off I-95 and 92. She led me to the back, went into a room and had a puppy with her that was whining. Gave her the $100 and she went to the bathroom. Came out, grabbed her puppy and said I need to take him to the car. Before I knew what happened, she was gone. Saw some of her pics / numbers are also matching up with 305-XXX-6781. Live and learn I guess.
[QUOTE=SquaredCir;2499108]Hey guys, first time posting. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on a provider I saw recently. She goes by many names in her ads, but mainly Mindy. The two phone numbers I received from her (yeah, I should have known) were 754-XXX-1027 and 386-XXX-3577. Met her at the scuzzy Days Inn off I-95 and 92. She led me to the back, went into a room and had a puppy with her that was whining. Gave her the $100 and she went to the bathroom. Came out, grabbed her puppy and said I need to take him to the car. Before I knew what happened, she was gone. Saw some of her pics / numbers are also matching up with 305-XXX-6781. Live and learn I guess.[/QUOTE]Warning fake cash and dash.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...t-fun/12633017[/URL]
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...5234c/12608572[/URL]
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-life/12586231[/URL]
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...-call/12557566[/URL]
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...prowl/12549862[/URL]
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEs...ingle/12535149[/URL]
All belong to a to the 386-690-3577.
Number no this chick is not the chick in the picture her alias is devin she has her bf drive her she is a major drug user so beware.
Call at your own risk I highly advise against it.
[QUOTE=SquaredCir;2499108]Hey guys, first time posting. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on a provider I saw recently. She goes by many names in her ads, but mainly Mindy. The two phone numbers I received from her (yeah, I should have known) were 754-XXX-1027 and 386-XXX-3577. Met her at the scuzzy Days Inn off I-95 and 92. She led me to the back, went into a room and had a puppy with her that was whining. Gave her the $100 and she went to the bathroom. Came out, grabbed her puppy and said I need to take him to the car. Before I knew what happened, she was gone. Saw some of her pics / numbers are also matching up with 305-XXX-6781. Live and learn I guess.[/QUOTE]I would have loaded my car up with everything in that room, her luggage, clothes, even the TV, coffee maker, hair dryer, microwave, and fridge!
[QUOTE=STrain;2499724]I would have loaded my car up with everything in that room, her luggage, clothes, even the TV, coffee maker, hair dryer, microwave, and fridge![/QUOTE]Unfortunately, when a provider does a cash and dash from a motel room, the room itself is usually not her room. Especially at the Days Inn near I-95, or similar rooms. What they often do is find a room in the back that is not locked, and then use it for business. So, stealing stuff in this situation would be outright theft. And, unfortunately, when these witchy providers bring us to such an "empty" room, we are actually committing trespassing along with them. If the hotel management sees you go in there, a knock at the door by LEO could follow. So, be careful. When you go into any hotel room with a provider, look around the room first and make absolutely sure that the provider is actually staying there. Look for clothes, hair brushes, makeup, laptop etc. And, also look for any tell-tale signs of management, such as men's shoes, men's clothes etc. If anything looks fishy, get out! Live to dream again.
On backpage, I found an ad from a disgruntled hobbyist who is upset that Breanna took has cash, went down to the taxi to pay, but disappeared herself along with his money. He complains that she isn't even the girl in the pics in the ad.
Well, first of all, if the pics are of such a beautiful woman like that, and when you open the door, she is not that woman, then you have to end the visit immediately! And never give the dream donation as long as anything is still up in the air, such as a taxi waiting outside. Be careful first, then horny after!
Anyway, to help my fellow hobbyists, here is the naughty Breanna's ad, which we should all avoid and maybe she will melt with the next rain. Live to dream again.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/breanna-is-ready-247-pleasures-all-the-time-100-real/12627325[/URL]
And here is the hobbyist's complaint.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/warning-do-not-contact-a-girl-using-the-name-breanna-and-number-386-753-8755-takes-your-cash-and-leaves/12841269[/URL]
[QUOTE=JoeEnjoyer;2512965]On backpage, I found an ad from a disgruntled hobbyist who is upset that Breanna took has cash, went down to the taxi to pay, but disappeared herself along with his money. He complains that she isn't even the girl in the pics in the ad.
Well, first of all, if the pics are of such a beautiful woman like that, and when you open the door, she is not that woman, then you have to end the visit immediately! And never give the dream donation as long as anything is still up in the air, such as a taxi waiting outside. Be careful first, then horny after!
Anyway, to help my fellow hobbyists, here is the naughty Breanna's ad, which we should all avoid and maybe she will melt with the next rain. Live to dream again.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/breanna-is-ready-247-pleasures-all-the-time-100-real/12627325[/URL]
And here is the hobbyist's complaint.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/warning-do-not-contact-a-girl-using-the-name-breanna-and-number-386-753-8755-takes-your-cash-and-leaves/12841269[/URL][/QUOTE]I guess YMMV holds true. i personaly have never had any problems with her and have seen her on many occasions
how do u know its not another girl ???
Just for your information. I found another rip-off report on backpage. I have included both the original ad by the provider and the complaint by the customer. It seems to be an outcall cash and dash situation. Typical scene: girl comes to your place, you pay her, she runs out of your house. What can you do? Easy fix. Pay half upfront, half afterwards. Anyway, stay away from this provider. She looks good in the ad, but we all know that this is probably not really her anyway.
The ad: Sexy little playmate.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexy-little-playmate/12857365[/URL]
The complaint: Watch out for the thief.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/watch-out-for-the-thief-sexy-little-playmate-25/12860429[/URL]
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/brunettes-do-it-better/12916492[/URL]
"10084;I'm alaina❤.
Available at ANYTIME for:
INCALL.
OUTCALL (local to daytona).
BLACK MEN (sorry guys).
PICTURE COLLECTORS.
GAMES / TIME WASTERS.
100 DRAMA-FREE & INDEPENDENT.
7542271027
Host Inn Bellview and Ridgewood 5' 3" weight 103 blonde hair always in a bun Usually black jeans and black tee shirt Saw her working a few days so figured legit.
Took cash into her room said she had to get room mate to leave. Waited a few then knocked on the door elderly lady and man said she jumped out the window in the back, saw her walking again yesterday day so she is still around.
Chick name is dominque.
She is straight cash and dash.
[URL]http://daytona.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-sexy-lil-mama-wants-to-spend-some-time-with-you-tonight-352-222-8393/12915186[/URL]
Attached pictures of the chick and her driver who is on felony probation.