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Made my first trip to HS, having seen it for many years. Very satisfactory experience. Saw two girls besides the mamsan, but don't remember the names. Great full service for 1.2 plus hr fee of .6. Got a good massage after mentioning my back was hurting a little.
Very satisfied.
Yeah, LA Spa is in Portland, but for all practical purposes, it's Lansing.
It's going strong ... see my report in Portland section.
I found some bad reviews of Lexy of Lansing on the Michigan CO-OP board she posts on Craigs list a lot.
Shorts you on time and upsells. If you need the web address for the CO-OP PM me.
(also on main Lansing forum)
The last time I tried Hawaii (in the summer?), I got a "we don't do that here," which I reported. Most of you reported differently, so I finally tried again.
Well, things have changed, for me at least. I highly recommend now. I apologize, but for various reasons, I'm not going to go into details. But while it's expensive (I'm not a good negotiator), it's what we're looking for. All aspects of experience were good. I went twice over several days. Sorry for not saying more.
(for review of LA spa, see Portland thread)
Had a new experience a few days ago at Hawaii. It was so busy, they put me in the kitchen to wait. This was about 3 p.m. on a weekday. I got to pet the little mutt instead of the kitty for awhile. Later, when I was being serviced, the doorbell rang at least 4 times. Service continues to be excellent and complete.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Had a new experience a few days ago at Hawaii. It was so busy, they put me in the kitchen to wait. This was about 3 p.m. on a weekday. I got to pet the little mutt instead of the kitty for awhile. Later, when I was being serviced, the doorbell rang at least 4 times. Service continues to be excellent and complete.[/QUOTE]
There have been a couple of new tv shows that feature AMPs in either their storyline or as part of an episode. "In case of emergency" - one of the lead character is an asian babe who work in an AMP, and offers FS. On the one coming in March, "The winner" he has been shown in a clip visiting an AMP with a really hot babe dressed like Sandy while he puts down his own linen. The economy hasn't gotten that better, so I don't see how frequent visitors are hitting the AMPs more, so more likely it is new business who has seen and are now sampling.
Just be careful, since higher visibility can also make some places more noticeable to their friends in blue just up Lansing Road. And aside from the Hawaiian, there is only LA Spa in Portland that is left, if you can stomach to drive that far!!!
Recently went to Hawaii. Haven't been there in a while, but decided to kill some time. OK massage from a late 30's/early 40's, probably a 6 on the AMP scale. Didn't really want full service and wasn't offered. Did get a HJ for .60.
Probably won't go back for a while until the girls get a little younger.
Does anyone know anything about the velvet touch. I used to got to the one in mount morris. But it was raided 3 years ago. And they no longer offer private sessions. Does the velvet in lansing offer them still. And if so whats the deal. Havnt been around in awhile.
Thanks
The Velvet Touch near Portland (off 98A of I-96) is still open and still has women.
However...
Velvet Touch salons are nothing but utter rip-offs. All you get is an overpriced handjob. Nothing more. If you really want a good time, just drive a few more miles down the road and hit Hawaii Spa instead. You'll get more bang for your bucks. Literally.
[QUOTE=Big Hick]Recently went to Hawaii. Haven't been there in a while, but decided to kill some time. OK massage from a late 30's/early 40's, probably a 6 on the AMP scale. Didn't really want full service and wasn't offered. Did get a HJ for .60.
Probably won't go back for a while until the girls get a little younger.[/QUOTE]
Well, unless there's really been some changes, you might have just gotten unlucky or someone didn't know you. As recently as last month got FS from girl close to 30. If you look at some of the posts, you can pick up some of the names and know who to ask for. ... of course, maybe things really HAVE changed ... it can happen quickly.
It's amazing they've stayed going with that pathetic service ... man, I was taken there for my so-called batchelor's party 23 years ago (!!!) and it was the same back THEN!
[QUOTE=Pathetic Loser]The Velvet Touch near Portland (off 98A of I-96) is still open and still has women.
However...
Velvet Touch salons are nothing but utter rip-offs. All you get is an overpriced handjob. Nothing more. If you really want a good time, just drive a few more miles down the road and hit Hawaii Spa instead. You'll get more bang for your bucks. Literally.[/QUOTE]
Your better off going anywhere but the velvet touch, biggest fippoff in town, always has been.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Well, unless there's really been some changes, you might have just gotten unlucky or someone didn't know you. As recently as last month got FS from girl close to 30. If you look at some of the posts, you can pick up some of the names and know who to ask for. ... of course, maybe things really HAVE changed ... it can happen quickly.[/QUOTE]
Decided to finally get back there, and was upsold big time. cbbjcim and daty for
$2. On top of the house fee, too! Biggest bunch of crock I got was because I happen to be well hung, Yung (watch out for this one) didn't want to do FS for anything less than $$ and didn't want to damage herself riding a big one. Either there are a lot of guys with small ones going in there, or these old ladies are just too old to handle it anymore. While i was there it was pretty busy (Friday afternoon) and they only had Yung and another girl, didn't get to see what she looked like though. So enjoy Hawaii fellas, I was a little too insulted to be going back anymore.
I stopped doing the AMPs around Lansing because it was getting so the service was over priced and bad. It all started going down hill when the AMP closed in Grandledge.
You can find better prices and better service in Flint.
I think that is because Flint almont has a AMP on every street corner.
If we stop going ahead and spending the money the the AMP around Lansing the prices should go down and or the services should get better.
You also have to dicker with the girls in the AMPs and don't be afraid to walk out with no extra services. Most times the girl will give in on price.
[QUOTE=The Darq Ryder]Decided to finally get back there, and was upsold big time. cbbjcim and daty for
$2. ....[/QUOTE]
Wow, sorry to hear bad experience ... wonder if new mamasan or what. I used to see Sandy a few times over the winter. I think it was more like $1.6 on top of fee ... Haven't been since Feb., though (I don't think).
[QUOTE=Harmonic]I stopped doing the AMPs around Lansing because it was getting so the service was over priced and bad. It all started going down hill when the AMP closed in Grandledge.
You can find better prices and better service in Flint.
I think that is because Flint almont has a AMP on every street corner.
If we stop going ahead and spending the money the the AMP around Lansing the prices should go down and or the services should get better.
You also have to dicker with the girls in the AMPs and don't be afraid to walk out with no extra services. Most times the girl will give in on price.[/QUOTE]
Didn't even know there WERE AMPs in Flint ... don't think the Flint board mentions em, or at least not much. Hope to hear more about this! It would be nice if you posted some of them somewhere. Bay City has a couple ok ones, but didn't know about Flint.
A monger posted this on the Flint forum in 6/2006
"You wont find much in Flint any more. I heard there is a couple up on M13 by Bay City but havent experienced them. Hawaii is good on west side of Lansing off 69 or M1 in Redford."
I haven't been through Flint often enough myself to do research through driving, newspaper, phone book, whatever ... I've cruised for SW, but that's about it.
Is this true? The Hawaii Spa building is up for sale? Bummer. I don't get to that area very often, but it was nice knowing it was there.
[QUOTE=The Darq Ryder]Decided to finally get back there, and was upsold big time. cbbjcim and daty for
$2. On top of the house fee, too! Biggest bunch of crock I got was because I happen to be well hung, Yung (watch out for this one) didn't want to do FS for anything less than $$ and didn't want to damage herself riding a big one. Either there are a lot of guys with small ones going in there, or these old ladies are just too old to handle it anymore. While i was there it was pretty busy (Friday afternoon) and they only had Yung and another girl, didn't get to see what she looked like though. So enjoy Hawaii fellas, I was a little too insulted to be going back anymore.[/QUOTE]
I have to second Darq Ryder. I was there in April and the service sucked. Ended up with a HJ only and she bitched the entire time about how long I took.
It's sorta difficult to get into it when the provider is making noise the entire time. I'm done with that place.
Well, I also tried Hawaii this past weekend, at the end of a trip where I also went to LA Spa (see other post coming), and I, too, was disappointed.
Sandy, who many of us liked, is on vacation. Same mamasan and little terrier dog, but some different girls, maybe. I'd never seen anyone but Sandy in the 3-4 times I've gone in the last year, so I can't compare well, but ...
Anyway, that was the first thing I did, is ask for Sandy. Mamasan definitely remembered me. Usually if that's the case and a girl is gone, she makes sure you get a good girl. It was late and instead of offering me the choice, she said "half-hour $40," which I thought she did because it was late, but not the case ...
I got "Young," who was decent-looking, but I could immediately tell was no Sandy. I tried to be nice, friend, complimentary, etc., like I usually am, but it was hard to help but think this was going to turn out great. The bar was set high with Sandy. TS was ok, but not much attention to nethers.
I had decided I was going to lay down 1.4, which is high, but not incredibly high. For better or worse, I said "This is what I give Sandy." She took it with kind of an odd look on her face, but she took it.
I got CFS, CBJ, a little bit of rimming I asked for ... but she occasionally complained and I never felt truly comfortable like with Sandy. I had a hard time getting there and the mamasan started making a ruckus, which really ticked me off. I'd barely been there 30, if that. At one point, before I finally "finished," she made some comment about $20 more. Yet here she was having insisted on 30 min in the first place.
Came to find out from Young that mamasan was trying only to make 30 min sessions because she was a girl short. But there were still 2 or 3 girls there and it was after 12 on Sunday night. Come on.
Young was a little embarrassed about the mamasan. It was kind of strange because she was half saying that I should have paid more, and kind of miffed herself, but at the same time kind of apologetic. I told her the service had gone downhill and people were going to hear about it.
I probably would have rated it an average experience, but like I said, Sandy had set the bar high and GFEs were the norm with her. I won't go back for awhile, if ever.
Check out my review of L.A. Spa on the Portland thread on this Lansing section. LA is definitely better than Hawaii right now. I was at both in period of four days. We should all dump Hawaii and hit LA. Hell, they're only 15 minutes apart.
Just made a trip to Mich. my old stomping grouds its been ten years.
Jumped on the board and heard about, Hawaii . I was verrrry happy I stopped, took care of all my buggered up joints before making the long trip back. Guy's 4 out of 5 stars, they could have had 5 stars but the prices were a bit of a bump. great service, KICK-N body, and no rush.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Well, I also tried Hawaii this past weekend, at the end of a trip where I also went to LA Spa (see other post coming), and I, too, was disappointed.[/QUOTE]
Went back to Hawaii for first time in a while the other day and was happy to see Sandy again. Last time I went there, she was on vacation. It wound up being a bit of a strange visit, though.
Got there about 11 p.m. or so. I think Mamasan recognized me, but she's not as nice anymore. Had a long wait after asking for Sandy. Probably had to wake her up. Also long waits before TS, after TS. Sandy seemed glad to see me and recognized me by name. I've seen her 3-4 times before. TS was above average.
Although I was glad to see her and get her, I didn't feel quite as close to her as in past and the reverse seemed true. She gave me a fairly long massage, but that's not her strong suit. Finally she laid down next to me. There was some GFE, but not quite like before. Then I gave her a bit of a massage. The little head got a little too excited and tried to make a too-early entry, which made her mad a little. Then after we got into some heavy MP, I couldn't quite finish the job and had to get HR while DATY. During that time, the mamasan called "Time," which she has started doing the last few times I've been there. She's getting to be a real clock watcher.
So, all in all, it wasn't the sweet experience Sandy has been before, though not necessarily her fault. I was also a bit on the grungey side, which the TS somewhat took care of, but not completely. She could tell I was kind of disappointed and we had some awkward words, but I tried to smooth it over.
I may not go back. Part of it is I just like Penny in Bay City and Hanna in Jackson better now. Sandy's really good looking, but ... I dunno ...
Anyway, I donated 1.6, which was probably too high, but I sensed a hassle if I went much lower and I wasn't up for that.
Now that my digs are in the LAN, I can visit my fave spots more, as long as the $ hold out. Going broke via AMPing ... what a concept ...
Anyway, had a groovy time with Anna at LA Spa last night. 2nd time I've seen her (see 5/1 report in Portland). I had a mediocre time with Penny last time there, with Anna being busy (that I didn't report; was probably in June), so I was very glad Anna was available.
We all know YMMV, but the strange experience last time, lots of charm and good will this time, and I think I'm maxing out this girl. It was GFE from the get-go, with her jumping in the shower with me (standup shower; they lack TS), with lots of fun mutual washing.
There was no real massage, which I guess was ok this time because I didn't really ask for one. She started with some light stuff and crawled on the table and started using her tongue. A nice AR session followed. After a bit, we switched and I showed her how to really do it. It was funny, because at first she was putting on a bit of a show about getting off, then it was real (the involuntary spasms are a giveaway).
She got back on top and let me suck her little bees for a bit while she recovered down there, then she started into CG, then MP. To this point, we'd done some light kissing, but I managed to charm my way into some DFK ("I dont' do that with anyone," she said). When my lack of finishing power kicked in, I withdrew, unsheathed and she jacked it on her belly just above her landing strip. Nice.
This girl can be a hustler and kinda mechanical if she doesn't know you. She likes to tease me (done this twice) about paying $$ tip on top of door - which seems to be the going rate on average in Lansing now. But I give her the look and she tells me I'm ok at $.5 (which is still high). Showering w/her, AR, DFK, etc., make it worthwhile, I guess.
She still isn't up on my list with Penny of Bay City or Hanna of Jackson ... well, maybe with Penny now.
p.s. I know this is Portland report on Lansing board, but we need to merge these together. It's basically a Lansing-area spa and Portland doesn't deserve a thread just for one place.
Hi,
I am traveling to Lansing next week on business and would like to visit the Hawaii Spa which has numerous reports here. Any recommendations, advice, tips for visiting? Am I at a disadvantage being an unknown when I walk in the door?
Thanks!
Another good visit at L.A. Spa. Anna was busy when I got there and I didn't want to see Penny, so I came back 30 min. later. She gave good GFE again with basically the same stuff I said before. It's always good if you can get to know em, which is why YMMV most of the time.
Hate to be repetitive, but another great time with Anna. She's been busy as I always have to wait. But a lot of GFE action, though she's still pretty firm on the price (.6+1.5), but she makes it pretty much worth it. Although there's always something to be said for the hunt and trying new girls, there's equally alot to be said for being a regular, where the mama knows you, the girl knows you, there's as much trust as can be had, and no question about services.
I dreamt I've been here a few times; Sandy still gives a good massage & etc, was never asked about TS?! besides her others aren't as entertaining.
LA Spa was fun recently with anna; would like more on the chest, but she makes up for it with good AR, and BLS (which was awesome).
I had a bad experience in Hawaii Spa last fall, so I avoided them for a while, but decided to try them again in the last two weeks and was very pleased. First time seen Jackie, late 30's to early 40's, she really worked hard for the money. Good massage, let me take my time, after FS (good) offered me to give her massage and then tried to give me an additional HJ (I really had not recharged yet, but appreciated the effort). .4 at the door and 1.6 in the room. Gave her 1.4 first, but she didn't seem happy, so I added another .2, and things were good from then. Was good enough for me to come back and did not regret. Saw Coco, I'd say late 20's, very cute and enthusiastic, an excellent GFE. Good TS, massage just OK, but from then on couldn't wish for better. BBBJ, let me feed on her naughty bits, changed positions a couple of times, seemed to be really enjoying herself. Whoever did her boobs did not do a great job, but she has the cutest little behind, unlike many Asian women that don't seem to have any butt at all. It's probably good that I am moving away, I'd be tempted to go back more often than I can afford. Oh yes, same thing, .4 for at the door and 1.6 in the room. She asked me how much I paid the previous time and I told her, so that was the whole negotiation thing.
Hey yeah I know the is the lansing forum
But I had to let pl know about this
There is a new AMP in gr area and it the shiet
No more 40yr+ girls
All are around there 20's and they switch girls very often I havent seen the same girls twice and have been there very often
They are not ging to advertise like other places like hawaii or la and will spread by word of mouth only
Prices are very resonable and much cheaper then others in the area
Senior member and ONLY senior members may pm me for contact info.
Thinking of checking out the H. spa. anyone have onfo on the age/look scale that is currently there? Will b going tonight. Only thing worth your time where I live is Sun Spa and four seasons. same 40 year olds been both places for a couple of months. They are bad though.
Just be sure to bring plenty of money, its always an upsell unless your a good negotiater. Thought all the Fort Wayne amps were busted, not that I've been but i do check alot of diffrent forums?
I stopped at the Hawaii Spa just after midnight this morning. They close at 1:00am and I was told just a half hour massage would be available. A petite masseuse name Lisa serviced me. She did not appear to be Korean and had an unusual accent. I don't know what her nationality was. She was attractive and friendly. The massage was just average but I got a real nice HR. I was pretty tired and thats all I wanted. Total damages were $40. 00 and $50. 00 for the tip. I certainly will go back. I have been going to this spa off and on since the early 90's. Over the years I have probably been there 25 or 30 times. The quality of the service and girls has always been consistently pretty good. I only remember once a long time ago being disatisfied when the girl I got was really chubby.
Does anyone know of an AMP where young women are available (i.e. under 30)? If so, do you know the names of any good-looking women under 30 to ask for? I'm a young guy and am not particularly interested in girls over 40.
[QUOTE=Matchbook85]Does anyone know of an AMP where young women are available (i.e. under 30)? If so, do you know the names of any good-looking women under 30 to ask for? I'm a young guy and am not particularly interested in girls over 40.[/QUOTE]
If you read the forum, you'll get a pretty good idea of what we know.
Haven't had time to do a mid-Mich. spa in several weeks due to travel, so finally got out before the snow Saturday and spun the wheel. It landed on L.A., which is close by, so decided to see what was the haps there. I'd had pretty good experiences with Anna and Penny there; in fact, Anna was kind of a fave for awhile, but she had been on a long vacation.
I'm very familiar to the mama there; in fact, she's my fave mama of all. But this time, I didn't ask for a girl. I was kind of hoping for a new one. But it was Anna. Hadn't seen her in some months, but 4th or 5th time overall. She recognized me right away and there was some nice hugging, kissing, etc.
Other than the familiarity factor, though, not really that thrilled with her any more. She doesn't do BBBJ or DFK, so it gets kind of ordinary. Paid .6 + 1.4. She's slender, with small tatas and well, I'm ready to move on from her. I wouldn't mind Penny another time. Anna said there was also a 3rd girl there, but don't know anything about her.
Haven't had many spa reviews here lately. Has anyone been to Hawaii and not reported yet? Wonder if it's the same girls there now. I don't think they've been advertising in the paper as much, so wondering what's up.
BTW, no one was at L.A. when I got there around 5 (I think), but it got real busy afterward.
Wanted to do some more pre-Xmas AMPing the other day and decided to make the trek back to Hawaii. Hadn't been there for months, choosing L.A. or other Mich. spas instead. Wondered if they were even open, since there's been a dearth of ads in the LSJ and not many reviews from us. Wondered if Sandy, the other girls, the temperamental Mama and that stupid dog were still there ... stay tuned ...
1) They were most definitely open. I got there and the lot was empty, but sign was on.
2) When the door was answered, at first I thought it was the same Mama, but no, this woman was older, heavier and shorter than the one I knew from 6 mos. ago. She also seemed friendlier. Saw no sign of the mutt, but later it made its presence known by yapping up a storm.
3) With the spa empty, I decided not to ask Mama for anyone and see who she sent me. If it was Sandy, I'd keep her; if it was Young, I'd ask for Sandy; if it was someone else, I'd make a split second decision on whether to ask for Sandy or go with the new face.
4) After kind of a lengthy wait, in walks a gal who introduced herself as Lisa. If I'd read old Hawaii posts more recently, I'd have remembered that she's a long timer here. But I'd never seen her. Decided to go for it ... and as it turned out, Sandy had just gone on vacation.
5) So here's where things got kind of interesting for me. As you guys know, I like to max things out and get the best treatment and GFE if possible. My first impression of Lisa was business-like and might be a hard shell to crack. I put on my best charm-school uniform and went to work. Soon we had a bit of a nice rapport and I was getting a few smiles and Little Brother was getting tickled and tugged.
Then came the strange part. After the TS, giving her 1.4 tip to start, and a few more minutes of waiting, the doorbell started ringing. I don't know about you guys, but with all due respect, it's nice to have the joint to yourself, you know? Well, it rang at least 5 times the rest of my visit. I almost jumped out at one point and said, hey guys, forget the girls, let's just have a sausage fest (j/k)! It got real busy, real fast.
I hear a guy go into the room next to me and ask for Lisa. Suddenly, Lisa is in the room and asking me if she can take care of the other guy first. I thought about being indignant for about a nano-second, then realized the sweet way she was asking and saying it would just be 15 min., etc., was indicating that I would get some good treatment when she was done. So I asked for a blankie, turned out the light, and listened to the loud music and muffled sounds of next door for 15-20 min. Definitely a new experience for me. The part where I didn't hear her pounding his back was short, so I figured a little HR and run for my fellow monger.
About 20 min. later, just as I'm dozing off, she comes in, kisses my neck, and we get bizzeeeeee. I started out rubbing her back, but soon my mouth is everywhere on her. Now these girls are good actors, but when 30 min later she is in a heap at the other end of the table, not moving for several min and saying she feels like she's drunk ... I think I found her sweet spot.
Anyway, we had fun, even though my Little Brother wasn't real cooperative and took a hands-on effort to finally give it up after she got hers.
I will see her again. For those of you for whom Lisa is a familiar face - I'd appreciate any feedback on continuing to get in good with her.
Merry Xmas!
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother]Wanted to do some more pre-Xmas AMPing the other day and decided to make the trek back to Hawaii. Hadn't been there for months, choosing L.A. or other Mich. spas instead. Wondered if they were even open, since there's been a dearth of ads in the LSJ and not many reviews from us. Wondered if Sandy, the other girls, the temperamental Mama and that stupid dog were still there ... stay tuned ...
1) They were most definitely open. I got there and the lot was empty, but sign was on.
2) When the door was answered, at first I thought it was the same Mama, but no, this woman was older, heavier and shorter than the one I knew from 6 mos. ago. She also seemed friendlier. Saw no sign of the mutt, but later it made its presence known by yapping up a storm.
3) With the spa empty, I decided not to ask Mama for anyone and see who she sent me. If it was Sandy, I'd keep her; if it was Young, I'd ask for Sandy; if it was someone else, I'd make a split second decision on whether to ask for Sandy or go with the new face.
4) After kind of a lengthy wait, in walks a gal who introduced herself as Lisa. If I'd read old Hawaii posts more recently, I'd have remembered that she's a long timer here. But I'd never seen her. Decided to go for it ... and as it turned out, Sandy had just gone on vacation.
5) So here's where things got kind of interesting for me. As you guys know, I like to max things out and get the best treatment and GFE if possible. My first impression of Lisa was business-like and might be a hard shell to crack. I put on my best charm-school uniform and went to work. Soon we had a bit of a nice rapport and I was getting a few smiles and Little Brother was getting tickled and tugged.
Then came the strange part. After the TS, giving her 1.4 tip to start, and a few more minutes of waiting, the doorbell started ringing. I don't know about you guys, but with all due respect, it's nice to have the joint to yourself, you know? Well, it rang at least 5 times the rest of my visit. I almost jumped out at one point and said, hey guys, forget the girls, let's just have a sausage fest (j/k)! It got real busy, real fast.
I hear a guy go into the room next to me and ask for Lisa. Suddenly, Lisa is in the room and asking me if she can take care of the other guy first. I thought about being indignant for about a nano-second, then realized the sweet way she was asking and saying it would just be 15 min., etc., was indicating that I would get some good treatment when she was done. So I asked for a blankie, turned out the light, and listened to the loud music and muffled sounds of next door for 15-20 min. Definitely a new experience for me. The part where I didn't hear her pounding his back was short, so I figured a little HR and run for my fellow monger.
About 20 min. later, just as I'm dozing off, she comes in, kisses my neck, and we get bizzeeeeee. I started out rubbing her back, but soon my mouth is everywhere on her. Now these girls are good actors, but when 30 min later she is in a heap at the other end of the table, not moving for several min and saying she feels like she's drunk ... I think I found her sweet spot.
Anyway, we had fun, even though my Little Brother wasn't real cooperative and took a hands-on effort to finally give it up after she got hers.
I will see her again. For those of you for whom Lisa is a familiar face - I'd appreciate any feedback on continuing to get in good with her.
Merry Xmas![/QUOTE]
Tb thanks for the review, I may have to make it over that way soon!
I went back to the Island again last night, hoping for another 'gasmic encounter with Lisa. Again, a slightly odd experience. I get there late to an empty spa (silly dogs outside, jumping on me and running to the door with me) and asked for Lisa. I could tell the girls were sleeping or just about down for the night (it was just before 12), but finally Lisa comes in and says she can only do a half-hour (I like the full hour treatment) because she's getting ready to go home (NYC) for the weekend (probably the early LaGuardia flight from Bishop, LOL).
She was sweet and was saying she would do me for 1/2 hr but was also recommending Sandy (back from vaca already?) or Jackie. Well, I could tell Lisa's heart wasn't in it, so I asked for Jackie.
Well, I guess I'm glad I did. I think Lisa gave me good props, because Jackie was huggy and kissyface from the start, gave me good TS, and okay massage. Then I climbed on her for massage and that quickly turned into more. After the deed, lots of snuggling, massaging and DFK. The usual .6+1.4.
A note about these Hawaii girls - having had 4 of them now (I don't know if Young is still there, but thinking of Sandy, Lisa, Jackie), I'm a little disturbed about something. I remember Sandy (several months ago) saying she needed to lose weight, even though she was pretty slender in my book. Lisa didn't say anything like that, but she's even more slender. Then Jackie ... well, guys, she scares me. I have experience over the years, in different areas of my life, with anorexics, and she seems that way. She's got nothing but skin and bones for hips and no butt, even by Asian standards. Her arms are ok, but her legs are sticks. I wanted to take her to BK with me and introduce her to The King and a double whopper with cheese.
But seriously, she doesn't look healthy at all. That said, she was still nice and sweet and tender ... and I'd probably see her again. I don't really know a way to broach an issue like that to a girl there ... or if I should.
I know all three girls have been at Hawaii awhile (not much turnover there) and a lot of you have seen more than one of them. I wouldn't mind some feedback to what I said, either on here or by PM. Thanks.
(p.s. another interesting thing about these three - they've all been in the states quite a while; 10 years plus)