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Ok I'll be honest. After years of this I'm open to finding a new path.
Honestly the talent pool keeps getting smaller anyways.
Curious any of you try and stop mongering? Any tricks that.
Anyone has? Really not great for home life and I want to.
Hang up my cleats if I can.
[QUOTE=OrlandoRob;7110726]Ok I'll be honest. After years of this I'm open to finding a new path.
Honestly the talent pool keeps getting smaller anyways.
Curious any of you try and stop mongering? Any tricks that.
Anyone has? Really not great for home life and I want to.
Hang up my cleats if I can.[/QUOTE]I looked for something serious on SA and lucked out. Some say their looking for LT but then will hit you with the PPM unitl were comfortable crap that's a red flag for me. If their serious about LT money usually isn't even discussed on date 1. Not saying that's the best path but it worked for me. I've been tempted to monger from time to time but theirs literally nothing not on my womens menu for makes it hard to justify.
Thanks for the reply. I'm at the same point. Find a utr regular and get out.
Of the rat race.
[QUOTE=Justin321;7110916]I looked for something serious on SA and lucked out. Some say their looking for LT but then will hit you with the PPM unitl were comfortable crap that's a red flag for me. If their serious about LT money usually isn't even discussed on date 1. Not saying that's the best path but it worked for me. I've been tempted to monger from time to time but theirs literally nothing not on my womens menu for makes it hard to justify.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OrlandoRob;7111506]Thanks for the reply. I'm at the same point. Find a utr regular and get out.
Of the rat race.[/QUOTE]Ditto- also clean yourself up, get into a gym / healthy lifestyle. You can easily bag normal woman from church and the gym and even volunteering. I know a monger here who met his SO that way and he still plays on the side.
Being married makes it almost impossible to go in any other direction. Can't get on Tinder. Can't bag a woman from a local bar and etc. I would love to stop paying for it, but I don't see a viable option.
[QUOTE=OrlandoRob;7111506]Thanks for the reply. I'm at the same point. Find a utr regular and get out.
Of the rat race.[/QUOTE]A good UTR would be great but hard to find (hence the name LOL).
I think about going square again but then I meet a civvie and the games they play begins.
So off I go to the AMP for a stress free sure thing.
[QUOTE=OrlandoRob;7110726]Ok I'll be honest. After years of this I'm open to finding a new path.
Honestly the talent pool keeps getting smaller anyways.
Curious any of you try and stop mongering? Any tricks that.
Anyone has? Really not great for home life and I want to.
Hang up my cleats if I can.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlMongerer;7112016]Being married makes it almost impossible to go in any other direction. Can't get on Tinder. Can't bag a woman from a local bar and etc. I would love to stop paying for it, but I don't see a viable option.[/QUOTE]Based on my experience if you are married and become addicted to this lifestyle it is very difficult to turn back on your own. The only option that does help a bit is to join an SLAA group and consistently participate. It helped me for awhile but at my age I couldn't see myself doing that for the rest of my life to stay sober. It's a tough gig to break especially if you're into variety.
[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;7112457]Based on my experience if you are married and become addicted to this lifestyle it is very difficult to turn back on your own. The only option that does help a bit is to join an SLAA group and consistently participate. It helped me for awhile but at my age I couldn't see myself doing that for the rest of my life to stay sober. It's a tough gig to break especially if you're into variety.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback and advice. I think you nailed it and I probably do have to take steps by first admitting I have an addiction and joining a group like that. I have tried breaking the habit but I always end up going back to my regulars.
Find a different, straight hobby. Like join a softball league or something that puts your energy elsewhere.
[QUOTE=OrlandoRob;7110726]Ok I'll be honest. After years of this I'm open to finding a new path.
Honestly the talent pool keeps getting smaller anyways.
Curious any of you try and stop mongering? Any tricks that.
Anyone has? Really not great for home life and I want to.
Hang up my cleats if I can.[/QUOTE]
Damn bro! It's so funny you mention this, but so true at the same time. If people would know how easy it is to fuck women in church, specially the married ones. I know that this sounds horrible, but I've already had about four affairs with women at church, and I'm talking about beautiful women who wouldn't look at average guys like me outside of that environment. Church women feel unattended by their husbands and crave attention and I don't exaggerate when I say that this applies to 90% of them. You basically befriend them at the congregation, and they start talking to you about their matrimony issues, and after that it's a wrap, 2-3 weeks later you are fucking their brains out. I just fail to understand how almost no men have discovered this hack. Quite impressive.
[QUOTE=TRowePrice;7111578]Ditto- also clean yourself up, get into a gym / healthy lifestyle. You can easily bag normal woman from church and the gym and even volunteering. I know a monger here who met his SO that way and he still plays on the side.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NeoMax;7113073]Damn bro! It's so funny you mention this, but so true at the same time. If people would know how easy it is to fuck women in church, specially the married ones. I know that this sounds horrible, but I've already had about four affairs with women at church, and I'm talking about beautiful women who wouldn't look at average guys like me outside of that environment. Church women feel unattended by their husbands and crave attention and I don't exaggerate when I say that this applies to 90% of them. You basically befriend them at the congregation, and they start talking to you about their matrimony issues, and after that it's a wrap, 2-3 weeks later you are fucking their brains out. I just fail to understand how almost no men have discovered this hack. Quite impressive.[/QUOTE]Now that's interesting! I take it you are single?
As a wise man once said: Pussy is awesome, Pussy is the greatest!
[QUOTE=OrlandoRob;7110726]Ok I'll be honest. After years of this I'm open to finding a new path.
Honestly the talent pool keeps getting smaller anyways.
Curious any of you try and stop mongering? Any tricks that.
Anyone has? Really not great for home life and I want to.
Hang up my cleats if I can.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Captainv;7113707]As a wise man once said: Pussy is awesome, Pussy is the greatest![/QUOTE]Damn right it is! Its my drug / addiction. Just sad that the market pricing has gone so high that I can no longer afford it.
Indeed I am a single man, which gives me a Huge advantaged over married men, but nevertheless, married men can do this as well, if they play their cards correctly. The thing is that people don't have a clue of how easy it is to do it. It's almost like if the women themselves come at you seeking attention. You just need to be friendly and listen to them.
[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;7113396]Now that's interesting! I take it you are single?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlMongerer;7112620]Thanks for your feedback and advice. I think you nailed it and I probably do have to take steps by first admitting I have an addiction and joining a group like that. I have tried breaking the habit but I always end up going back to my regulars.[/QUOTE]Crazy how this has come up. I was thinking the same thing a few days ago. I've been in this for 20 years. It's easy to go hog wild with all these chicks that are available. But at the end of the day you're bank account is drained and you're still alone with or without a SO that doesn't want or do what you want. I've stopped for a few months but find myself driving to one of my regulars and banging the hell out of her and driving off day WTF man. But also, flip the coin, can these girls ever stop and stay with just one guy? I'm sure many have just like us. But I'm thinking more have not and can just like us. Thanks for this thread.
Fletch.
[QUOTE=NeoMax;7113832]Indeed I am a single man, which gives me a Huge advantaged over married men, but nevertheless, married men can do this as well, if they play their cards correctly. The thing is that people don't have a clue of how easy it is to do it. It's almost like if the women themselves come at you seeking attention. You just need to be friendly and listen to them.[/QUOTE]You meet them at Mass or at church events? Lmao.
Considering getting out of the hobby as well. It filled a hole in my life, as my marriage is great in all facets but one. Wife will kiss, fondle and say she wants me, but the deed is rarely done. We're in our 50's so some letdown is expected, but is this too much?
Old guys (over 45 anyways!) - Do you still have sex with your wife on a regular basis?
[QUOTE=RatPack21;7197817]Considering getting out of the hobby as well. It filled a hole in my life, as my marriage is great in all facets but one. Wife will kiss, fondle and say she wants me, but the deed is rarely done. We're in our 50's so some letdown is expected, but is this too much?
Old guys (over 45 anyways!) - Do you still have sex with your wife on a regular basis?[/QUOTE]What you're saying is exactly what happens with me too. My wife is definitely pre menopausal and also deals with fibroids. Her menstrual cycle is all over the place but she is being stubborn about going to a doctor. Exact same she will kiss we will play around some but that's it. Last time I tried even fingering her she started crying saying it hurt.
But mongering is getting to be a hobby that is getting $$ right now. My few regulars are maintaining their prices but sometimes I want something new. Tried the SB and they usually want more. Idk if its worth it anymore.
[QUOTE=OdinsBeard78;7198335]What you're saying is exactly what happens with me too. My wife is definitely pre menopausal and also deals with fibroids. Her menstrual cycle is all over the place but she is being stubborn about going to a doctor. Exact same she will kiss we will play around some but that's it. Last time I tried even fingering her she started crying saying it hurt.
But mongering is getting to be a hobby that is getting $$ right now. My few regulars are maintaining their prices but sometimes I want something new. Tried the SB and they usually want more. Idk if its worth it anymore.[/QUOTE]Totally agree! I had 3 regulars but my favorite seems to have vanished, and the other 2 are getting monotonous. And new friends seems to cost more than old friends. I'd step away if my wife became my "girlfriend" again. And I bet I'm not alone in thinking this.
[QUOTE=RatPack21;7198505]Totally agree! I had 3 regulars but my favorite seems to have vanished, and the other 2 are getting monotonous. And new friends seems to cost more than old friends. I'd step away if my wife became my "girlfriend" again. And I bet I'm not alone in thinking this.[/QUOTE]You're not.
[QUOTE=RatPack21;7198505]Totally agree! I had 3 regulars but my favorite seems to have vanished, and the other 2 are getting monotonous. And new friends seems to cost more than old friends. I'd step away if my wife became my "girlfriend" again. And I bet I'm not alone in thinking this.[/QUOTE]This is true- I have to say the latter is what is driving my semi retirement (well that, and age). Those with wives need to talk to them and figure out what works. A co-worker of mine said she told her husband she is fine with a threesome and going to secrets but he has the issue with his plumbing. Another one said its fine to face f* as her lady bits are not in proper working order.
For me, I lack the patience needed to deal with new relationships and my expectations of increased. I may try to salvage an old one but most gals who leave rarely come back. If they do, it is so low key, its not worth mentioning on a board.
[QUOTE=RatPack21;7197817]Considering getting out of the hobby as well. It filled a hole in my life, as my marriage is great in all facets but one. Wife will kiss, fondle and say she wants me, but the deed is rarely done. We're in our 50's so some letdown is expected, but is this too much?
Old guys (over 45 anyways!) - Do you still have sex with your wife on a regular basis?[/QUOTE]I've been debating about adding to this forum and finally said to myself, what the hell, chime in. First and foremost my wife is my best friend. We've been together getting close to 50 years. She has always been very vanilla in the bedroom in that no bbj and she doesn't like daty so there's not much foreplay leading to the main event. It's always been just straight sex with me in mish, until we both get our moment of pleasure. As time has crept up on both of us her drive has decreased and although mine is still strong I can only muster up MSOG with the right lady and every now and then I find her out here in the hobby land.
She is now in her late 60's and I'm now early 70's and we haven't been intimate in a year which is the longest we've ever gone. I'm not saying she doesn't want it because she does, it's just that I know how it will be and it's hard to get turned on thinking about it so I have a difficult time getting it up with her anymore. Hence the need for me to continue what I'm doing to fill that void or need since my drive is still fairly high for my age. That's kind of where I'm at right now.
[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;7200666]I've been debating about adding to this forum and finally said to myself, what the hell, chime in. First and foremost my wife is my best friend. We've been together getting close to 50 years. She has always been very vanilla in the bedroom in that no bbj and she doesn't like daty so there's not much foreplay leading to the main event. It's always been just straight sex with me in mish, until we both get our moment of pleasure. As time has crept up on both of us her drive has decreased and although mine is still strong I can only muster up MSOG with the right lady and every now and then I find her out here in the hobby land.
She is now in her late 60's and I'm now early 70's and we haven't been intimate in a year which is the longest we've ever gone. I'm not saying she doesn't want it because she does, it's just that I know how it will be and it's hard to get turned on thinking about it so I have a difficult time getting it up with her anymore. Hence the need for me to continue what I'm doing to fill that void or need since my drive is still fairly high for my age. That's kind of where I'm at right now.[/QUOTE]Wanted to add my 2 cents. My wife has had no sex drive as well used to beg all the time and got tired of begging, which is why I got into mongering, had she put out I probably would not have got into this. 2 years ago, she finally got off her ass and went to a hormone doctor and began hormone therapy. It took about a year to get her hormones in check and I have to say she is a totally different woman today. The Dr told her when she got her on the right therapy it would change her life stops hot flashes, her mood swings and a sex drive etc.
She is 57 and she will fuck everyday now, so there is hope for our SO's if they would go to the Dr. My problem is I like the variety so much now I can't stop myself maybe an addiction LOL. I always say I'm going to stop when she is calling me to come fuck her then I log into this site and I change my mind.
Happy Hunting Fellas.
[QUOTE=OrlandoRob;7110726]Ok I'll be honest. After years of this I'm open to finding a new path.
Honestly the talent pool keeps getting smaller anyways.
Curious any of you try and stop mongering? Any tricks that.
Anyone has? Really not great for home life and I want to.
Hang up my cleats if I can.[/QUOTE]Due to an unrelated issue, I had to stop mongering for quite a while last year. I joined Sex Addicts Anonymous (SAA) and actually had really good success. It was nice meeting other people that all shared the same urges as I did. I didn't (and don't) consider it an addiction, but the program helped nonetheless. I can point you to some local chapters if you want, or if you just google Orlando SAA you'll find some resources.
I have a long time SO and got into this hobby for a little variety. It was only very rarely and then only L1, that was reasonable for me to justify no harm no foul. Over the years it became a bit more frequent and then it was L1+ and sometimes L2. It was like a slow creep into more and more. I'd do L1 AMPs and Indy's but sometimes the Indy's would get naked or do fiv or BBBJ or daty. I started getting picky with their looks and such and it was reaching a crescendo and all the time my level of guilt to my SO was getting higher and higher. Then I began looking to for L2 and FS and although I never pulled the trigger on FS I was pretty damn close and that scared me. I was seeing one famous Indy who was giving me L2 sessions that could have been in a porn video, some wild memories and that's when I decided to call it quits. I had gotten away with it for so long and had some crazy experiences and decided I'd pushed it far enough. So I quit! That was two years ago.
Until I restarted, slowly and just a little here and there and it quickly creeped up to L2 again and I quit again just recently.
[QUOTE=Aeroxly;7201198]Due to an unrelated issue, I had to stop mongering for quite a while last year. I joined Sex Addicts Anonymous (SAA) and actually had really good success. It was nice meeting other people that all shared the same urges as I did. I didn't (and don't) consider it an addiction, but the program helped nonetheless. I can point you to some local chapters if you want, or if you just google Orlando SAA you'll find some resources.[/QUOTE]Sorry, couldn't pass that one up.
[QUOTE=Sparky1984;7201027]Wanted to add my 2 cents. My wife has had no sex drive as well used to beg all the time and got tired of begging, which is why I got into mongering, had she put out I probably would not have got into this. 2 years ago, she finally got off her ass and went to a hormone doctor and began hormone therapy. It took about a year to get her hormones in check and I have to say she is a totally different woman today. The Dr told her when she got her on the right therapy it would change her life stops hot flashes, her mood swings and a sex drive etc.
She is 57 and she will fuck everyday now, so there is hope for our SO's if they would go to the Dr. My problem is I like the variety so much now I can't stop myself maybe an addiction LOL. I always say I'm going to stop when she is calling me to come fuck her then I log into this site and I change my mind.
Happy Hunting Fellas.[/QUOTE]Like you, I've also got to where I enjoy the variety and can't stop myself, especially when I have a divorced friend who sends me a text telling me she's in the mood to fuck. She will do everything my wife won't in the bedroom and will let me pleasure her in all the ways that do nothing for my wife. It's been a symbiotic relationship since the two of us horny people have no desire to change our current situations just a need for primal sex every now and then. The variety is still nice though since I don't think I'm wired to be monogamous when it comes to physical sex.
Sounds like you got a good setup with your friend.
The only concern I would have for you is that in my experience women have a harder time separating emotions and tend to eventually need more than your current setup. That is when things get screwed up.
Hopefully this doesn't happen to you.
[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;7201978]Like you, I've also got to where I enjoy the variety and can't stop myself, especially when I have a divorced friend who sends me a text telling me she's in the mood to fuck. She will do everything my wife won't in the bedroom and will let me pleasure her in all the ways that do nothing for my wife. It's been a symbiotic relationship since the two of us horny people have no desire to change our current situations just a need for primal sex every now and then. The variety is still nice though since I don't think I'm wired to be monogamous when it comes to physical sex.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bjceb;7202098]Sounds like you got a good setup with your friend.
The only concern I would have for you is that in my experience women have a harder time separating emotions and tend to eventually need more than your current setup. That is when things get screwed up.
Hopefully this doesn't happen to you.[/QUOTE]WOW!! I didn't know there were people going through what I'm going through. My SO is my best friend and has been for decades! But the lack of sex in the bedroom Has put me here. It's maybe two positions and that's all. I to started with just L1 and slowly creeped to L2 and felt horrible!! But I'm always chasing the pussy with my SO ad I'm tired of it. I've talked with her about it but nothing happens. Then I started L3 and so on and just like you guys I kinda like the variety. At the same time I'm thinking bro!! You're crazy!! All of what you have could vanish if you get caught!! You really want to start over at your age?? Not sure what to do. I've always said this is it I'm out!! But come right back again in a few weeks. Pussy is strong my brothers. It's the driving force.
[QUOTE=IrwinFletcher1;7114379]Crazy how this has come up. I was thinking the same thing a few days ago. I've been in this for 20 years. It's easy to go hog wild with all these chicks that are available. But at the end of the day you're bank account is drained and you're still alone with or without a SO that doesn't want or do what you want. I've stopped for a few months but find myself driving to one of my regulars and banging the hell out of her and driving off day WTF man. But also, flip the coin, can these girls ever stop and stay with just one guy? I'm sure many have just like us. But I'm thinking more have not and can just like us. Thanks for this thread.
Fletch.[/QUOTE]Just like every other vice in my life, I'm slowly aging out of the hobby for many reasons. I was 17 years old in 1981 when I first became intrigued with the hobby. Since those days I've seen alot good, bad, and indifferent. During my active years, I had less than a hand full of encounters that could have ended badly in terms of LEO or an unstable individual. As an older guy I'm smart enough to realize new vulnerabilities could become a disadvantage. I'm much more selective and patient these days.
[QUOTE=Plzd269;7202240]Just like every other vice in my life, I'm slowly aging out of the hobby for many reasons. I was 17 years old in 1981 when I first became intrigued with the hobby. Since those days I've seen alot good, bad, and indifferent. During my active years, I had less than a hand full of encounters that could have ended badly in terms of LEO or an unstable individual. As an older guy I'm smart enough to realize new vulnerabilities could become a disadvantage. I'm much more selective and patient these days.[/QUOTE]I've been doing this since 2005.maybe it's my age now. But I'm finding myself more and more of thinking of just hanging it up. I know my bank account would love it. Plus I owe it to my SO. Maybe she's doing the same and I'm just oblivious? I've found myself in not so good situations and have been able to tip toe away and have had some experiences that even porn movies couldn't come close to it. Ok that one was a stretch, but I think I would've won an award. Don't have an answer for all this.
[QUOTE=Plzd269;7202240]Just like every other vice in my life, I'm slowly aging out of the hobby for many reasons. I was 17 years old in 1981 when I first became intrigued with the hobby. Since those days I've seen alot good, bad, and indifferent. During my active years, I had less than a hand full of encounters that could have ended badly in terms of LEO or an unstable individual. As an older guy I'm smart enough to realize new vulnerabilities could become a disadvantage. I'm much more selective and patient these days.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IrwinFletcher1;7202288]I've been doing this since 2005.maybe it's my age now. But I'm finding myself more and more of thinking of just hanging it up. I know my bank account would love it. Plus I owe it to my SO. Maybe she's doing the same and I'm just oblivious? I've found myself in not so good situations and have been able to tip toe away and have had some experiences that even porn movies couldn't come close to it. Ok that one was a stretch, but I think I would've won an award. Don't have an answer for all this.[/QUOTE]I've been at this since 2004 and from my own experience it has been very difficult for me to just age out of the hobby or slowly stop doing what I'm doing. At this point it takes a support group to help and I tried that for a year but got tired of hearing the same old stories and decided to bow out of the group. I've been able to convince myself that being 71 with a very active drive I might as well use it since I'm in the last 1/4 of my life and what do I have to lose at this point. I wish I could stop but unfortunately my needs are too strong to let go.
[QUOTE=IrwinFletcher1;7202187]WOW!! I didn't know there were people going through what I'm going through. My SO is my best friend and has been for decades! But the lack of sex in the bedroom Has put me here. It's maybe two positions and that's all. I to started with just L1 and slowly creeped to L2 and felt horrible!! But I'm always chasing the pussy with my SO ad I'm tired of it. I've talked with her about it but nothing happens. Then I started L3 and so on and just like you guys I kinda like the variety. At the same time I'm thinking bro!! You're crazy!! All of what you have could vanish if you get caught!! You really want to start over at your age?? Not sure what to do. I've always said this is it I'm out!! But come right back again in a few weeks. Pussy is strong my brothers. It's the driving force.[/QUOTE]If your SO isn't interested in giving you sex anymore in the bedroom, even after you've made it apparent your interested in a lot of sex, they are selfish. They want to be in an exclusive relationship with you and not let you have sex with anyone else, but don't want to give you sex either is pretty psychologically manipulative. The purpose of being in an exclusive relationship is so that you don't have to turn to other people for sex. Otherwise you can just be friends. There no different than your homies LOL. That lack of interest is a sign that they aren't attracted to you and you should bounce LOL, and find someone that is willing to drop their panties for you.
[QUOTE=Blazingblue;7203802]If your SO isn't interested in giving you sex anymore in the bedroom, even after you've made it apparent your interested in a lot of sex, they are selfish. They want to be in an exclusive relationship with you and not let you have sex with anyone else, but don't want to give you sex either is pretty psychologically manipulative. The purpose of being in an exclusive relationship is so that you don't have to turn to other people for sex. Otherwise you can just be friends. There no different than your homies LOL. That lack of interest is a sign that they aren't attracted to you and you should bounce LOL, and find someone that is willing to drop their panties for you.[/QUOTE]While I agree with you on some of this. It also has to do with the SO age. Women go through the change and it makes their lives miserable as well as ours. And that change can last for many years. I've tried to help in the past and that went over like a brick to the head. Soooo here I am. We will see what plays out. From reading all of this I'm sure most guys on here know what I'm and she are going through.
Do you guys think the girls who work the AMPs like Milk, MY, Tokyo, etc are trafficked? As in working against their free will?
It doesn't seem like they are to me but idk for sure. I think it's a tough gig with the hours they work and amount of guys they see, but the girls seem to know what they're in for and are okay with it because they make a lot of money.
In the past I have also had girls tell me during lean times (like the Milk bust or when the new FL laws passed) that girls didn't want to come here and work because of LEO. Which would imply that they have a choice about it.
Curious to know everyone's thoughts though. PM is fine too if you're more comfortable that way.
[QUOTE=StyleNProfile;7229433]Do you guys think the girls who work the AMPs like Milk, MY, Tokyo, etc are trafficked? As in working against their free will?
It doesn't seem like they are to me but idk for sure. I think it's a tough gig with the hours they work and amount of guys they see, but the girls seem to know what they're in for and are okay with it because they make a lot of money.
In the past I have also had girls tell me during lean times (like the Milk bust or when the new FL laws passed) that girls didn't want to come here and work because of LEO. Which would imply that they have a choice about it.
Curious to know everyone's thoughts though. PM is fine too if you're more comfortable that way.[/QUOTE]I talk to all the ones I see and they do this by choice and can come and go as they please. No one is forcing them.
[QUOTE=IrwinFletcher1;7204286]While I agree with you on some of this. It also has to do with the SO age. Women go through the change and it makes their lives miserable as well as ours. And that change can last for many years. I've tried to help in the past and that went over like a brick to the head. Soooo here I am. We will see what plays out. From reading all of this I'm sure most guys on here know what I'm and she are going through.[/QUOTE]You are better off getting a divorce and be a bachelor. If you aren't getting any sex out of it, you might as well dump the broad and not have to worry about sneaking around anymore. It'll save you a lot of money, and on top of that less headache. Hell if you tell her you want to divorce her for not having sex with you and sticking to those vows you had at marriage, that actually might make her wet. You got to have a backbone and tell her you won't tolerate it anymore, otherwise you will be looked at the bad guy if you ever get frustrated in the relationship. Word of advice man, just do it, guys are better off not marrying in 2025, since we all know these hoes ain't loyal not even in the bedroom.
[QUOTE=IrwinFletcher1;7204286]While I agree with you on some of this. It also has to do with the SO age. Women go through the change and it makes their lives miserable as well as ours. And that change can last for many years. I've tried to help in the past and that went over like a brick to the head. Soooo here I am. We will see what plays out. From reading all of this I'm sure most guys on here know what I'm and she are going through.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of 60 yr old women that are horny don't make excuses for her. Why does she get excited about other things, but no longer gets excited about you? Also you make a great point, why be with someone getting older whose just going to get worse with age and give you zero sex, when you can be with someone younger who is willing to have sex with you 5-6 times a day. Its a no brainer man. Do yourself a solid and bounce. Unless she's the breadwinner, You did way too much as a man in the relationship, to be dealt that hand.
[QUOTE=Blazingblue;7233646]There are plenty of 60 yr old women that are horny don't make excuses for her. Why does she get excited about other things, but no longer gets excited about you? Also you make a great point, why be with someone getting older whose just going to get worse with age and give you zero sex, when you can be with someone younger who is willing to have sex with you 5-6 times a day. Its a no brainer man. Do yourself a solid and bounce. Unless she's the breadwinner, You did way too much as a man in the relationship, to be dealt that hand.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I have contemplated that way. But I have over 3 decades invested with us. It cuts both ways in the vows. But again why am I saying vows when I'm dipping out. There's a lot more involved in all this. Responsibilities in the marriage. What I know is there is no easy answer. And you're right about todays relationships, don't get married. They only want what you can provide them. Thank you.
[QUOTE=IrwinFletcher1;7234173]Thanks for the advice. I have contemplated that way. But I have over 3 decades invested with us. It cuts both ways in the vows. But again why am I saying vows when I'm dipping out. There's a lot more involved in all this. Responsibilities in the marriage. What I know is there is no easy answer. And you're right about todays relationships, don't get married. They only want what you can provide them. Thank you.[/QUOTE]You would think 3 decades of marriage means something to a girl but it doesn't, if anything she should be more in love with you based on the time why'all spent with each other. But sadly, that's how things work, attraction falls off and so does interest. And holding 3 decades of things that tie you together isn't worth keeping if she doesn't want to honor the literal most fundamental point of being in an exclusive relationship which is sex with your partner. Other than that I don't see the point in being in a relationship unless you want to have kids with someone. And even then its not worth it. She's having her cake and eating it too. She's making you provide for all her securities and benefits, and in return you get nothing out of it. She's manipulating you and the only reason your holding on to this relationship is because of some fond memories why'all made together which mean nothing now. Because I'm willing to bet a women that is not interested in sex with you anymore is probably also disrespecting you and starting fights with you as well. Which to me means she doesn't think highly of you. I would definitely say dip out now, so you can save face and be the one that leaves vs her and that way you can start all over again without dealing with a heavy loss. But make sure you have your financial situation in order during the split and things lined up. Otherwise if she decides to divorce you first out of no where, you will be the one in trouble. If there's no kids involved, its easier to do, if not I would still push for it, because its the last card you can play. Trust me, I know so many guys in your situation, and it always ends badly for them.