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Hello hobbyists
After absorbing some great info from the forums, I dreamed about hitting SB tonight between 2 and 4. Not much to see. But then N of ShermW I spied BSW Toya who waved me down.
Sexy and young (early 20s?) w/ great legs and ass on display w/ her blue miniskirt. Half/half car date for .5. CBJ was okay duration and performance. Mish was subject to a slight rush attitude, but she's sexy enough to overcome that. Breasts seem small, but dunno for sure -- didn't dream of her with her top off. Ass/legs are top notch, but a bit too loose for me where it counts. Granted, I'm no freak of nature, but I'm avg which means I'm used to feeling a bit more friction in the act.
Looks 8
Attitude 6
Performance 5
Still, prettiest dream I've had in a while, especially with slim pickings tonight. Got digits. May dream up a room next time for a DS spin and see if it improves quality.
Until then, happy mongering. Safe dreams.
Cruised SB at about 2:30 this afternoon. About 4 pimped girls out. One bsw. one not sure....bsw or lsw. One wsw named Melanie. I had picked her up about a year ago on Century. Saw her walking on SB towards the shopping center where Jons is. Pulled into the parking lot. Some chump had pulled over in front of me, near the bank. She did not get into his car, but did immediately get into my car. No negotiation or anything. Thats definitely the safe way.
Anyway, she is about 20. Pony tail, shes about 5'5, nice long legs and thin body. Very cute. She was wearing a blouse and a very short mini skirt that showed off her ass, along with high heels. We started away, and she wanted $1/2 for half and half. I said no. I countered at $. She said ok, but wanted me to get a room. Since I live nearby, I wanted to go back to my place. We came to a standstill and I was going to drop her off. She called her pimp and he said it was ok to go back to my place. Off we went.
Standard Sunset treatment. CBJ. Mish, then doggy. Nothing spectacular, but its always nice to bang a cute young girl. She does have kinda a bad body. She is not fat or anything, but saggy breasts and stretch marks due to having had a kid and lack of exercise. I'll probably repeat. She lives near me, and is more than cute enough.
Was in the left turn lane on Magnolia to turn on to SB at 4 yesterday afternoon. While waiting, an 8-9 BSW crossed by, shortly followed by a 6-7 WSW being dropped off.
Was in a hurry so no time to partake, but will give it a shot soon.
Anyone have any luck picking up this hot little LSW heading north on SB just before Sherman Way by the John's supermarket around 2 pm today?
Made a few attempts but she wouldn't come my way???
So headed south on SB and at about SB/Oxnard noticed this little spinner ASW chatting on her phone doing that walk, pulled over picked her up, nice girl not the most attractive though, settled on $50 FS...parked, CG till finish.
Very sweet girl which makes up for her lack in looks, maybe cause she wasn't made up? Tight little body though, she mentioned she loved anal and would do it fo $100, had to get her digits...will be calling back!
I really would've loved to hit that LSW though!
Maloso
Sepulveda Nordoff to Victory; Friday Dead 1 Flat Faced half asian half unknown, no BSW between 5-7 if I remember right. No BSW on this end although 1 did get dropped off and gone in a heartbeat, think she rolled off with pimp. Did see hot Latinas cruising around but None were s/w's for sure. I will have to head up farthe down the track and check it out.
[QUOTE=Webcams]Sepulveda Nordoff to Victory; Friday Dead 1 Flat Faced half asian half unknown, no BSW between 5-7 if I remember right. No BSW on this end although 1 did get dropped off and gone in a heartbeat, think she rolled off with pimp. Did see hot Latinas cruising around but None were s/w's for sure. I will have to head up farthe down the track and check it out.[/QUOTE]
Webcams,
That sounds like the asian I picked up...good service.
Maloso
Brothers,
I finally got empowered by Jackson today to change my User Name. So the Irie Sadist Patrick Bateman Member #2997 has a new name. I combined two of my favorite historical figures. Vlad Tepes or Dracul translated "Vlad the Impaler" of Hungary. And Marquis de Sade of France. Two incredibly sick human beings. Capable of awesome acts of depravity...
Speck, Webcams & maloso1 this sounds encouraging...
I have avoided SB for months during my work missions. I felt it was a wasteland. I see I am wrong. This is sweet news indeed. W/all the hot weather I will start mongering on the SB again. I will report all that I see.
I hope to find the Asian and the hot Latina Maloso & Webcams saw a couple of days ago. Anybody get the Asians contact info? If so please PM me. I love Asians. Duh. Who doesn't.
I have seen alot of hot girls on my daily drives thru the valley floor. Damn, we got some hotties up in here. I wish they were all tricks. Okay, I will keep my radar up and I'll report when I score.
Also, I am still seeking to find a "real KAMP" somewhere in the 818. Wish me luck... And if YOU guys got the hook up please PM me the vital intel. Fed Ex & I are going nuts up in here!!!
Laterz, V da Sadist
Saw what looked like a WsW On Sepulveda today near Sherman Way just drove by, but the radar went way off she was wearing a little denim skirt if anyone has info please post !
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]Brothers,
I finally got empowered by Jackson today to change my User Name. So the Irie Sadist Patrick Bateman Member #2997 has a new name. I combined two of my favorite historical figures. Vlad Tepes or Dracul translated "Vlad the Impaler" of Hungary. And Marquis de Sade of France. Two incredibly sick human beings. Capable of awesome acts of depravity...[/QUOTE]
A belated congratulations on your new nom de plume! If you ever decide to venture behind the orange curtain I have an AMAZING provider for you. She is rather...submissive. I have never throat-fucked a girl with such ferocity. And she is not only willing but encourages it. Definitely my favorite kind of girl.
Take care my brother!
Joe
[QUOTE=Joe Monger]A belated congratulations on your new nom de plume! If you ever decide to venture behind the orange curtain I have an AMAZING provider for you. She is rather...submissive. I have never throat-fucked a girl with such ferocity. And she is not only willing but encourages it. Definitely my favorite kind of girl.
This definately looks like something I have been pursuing for a long time! I'd love to know the details!
[QUOTE=Joe Monger]A belated congratulations on your new nom de plume! If you ever decide to venture behind the orange curtain I have an AMAZING provider for you. She is rather...submissive. I have never throat-fucked a girl with such ferocity. And she is not only willing but encourages it. Definitely my favorite kind of girl.
Take care my brother!
Joe[/QUOTE]
Very nice. It's not too often that you find them quite that willing.
[QUOTE=Cres Prophet]Very nice. It's not too often that you find them quite that willing.[/QUOTE]
Hit me up then bro. She's not cheap, but then quality never is.
Joe
Joe,
Whats up bro? How are ya doing?
Brother, thanks for the intel. Yeah, I'd venture behind the Orange curtain for that!
I'm sorry if YOU get a bunch of lame PM's from a bunch of horny newbies who also want her #...
I'll PM ya
laterz, da I Sadist
Where do the 9-10 quality providers reside at? For god's sake the best you can get in the valley is a 6-7 lately. How did all the amps close at once ? this is getting to be a pain in the ass, I am tired of driving to Inglewood for good service. Love the lamps with cute young latinas lined up for your picking.
Vlad, Speck Marlowe, Everyone. Friday Afternoon From 2-5 I counted one roving crew of S/w's Headed by the Blonde black girl with the big ass, she had 3 Latina & one bsw with her all between Sherman Way and Victory On Sepulveda as well as three other bsw in the area and one Latina who was by herself who was 19 and smokin I couldn't make a connection all day though as I couldn't decide and when I did another monger beat me to it.
Rain will proably chase them all away, but when it clears up it's worth a drive.
Mongers,
I had a strange Wed this week. It was a full day of missions thru the SFV. Needless to say I cruised many a stroll purposely.
Late afternoon, 3pmish, I trolled Glenoaks from Polk to Paxton. Nada, nada, nada... Then I exited the 118 at SB and I cruised south to Vanowen. Nada, nada, nada... From Vanowen and SB I rolled west to Balboa. I took Balboa north to Roscoe. I was now heading west via Roscoe across the valley. I was tired, laden w/contraband and very high! I was also about to give up...
I was on my cell phone distracted and dissapointed, at what the streets had to offer, when I thought I spied a bsw walking east. Seriously, as I crossed Winnetka, I saw a bsw walking east on Roscoe in front of the lodge motel. I was shocked! So I flipped a b***h and and headed east after her. She was nearly a 10 in my book. I got off of my cell ASAP and rolled down my passenger window. "Hey do YOU need a ride?" "Oh no, I got a room here at the lodge. Pull in and park honey." (Now my monger radar is on high alert) "Hey, I'm cool have a great night sweetie." I got the f**k out of there quick.
I crossed Winnetka and made another uturn at the old Eden S&P mini mall lot. I then retraced my route crossing Winnetka again looking for the sting. I found nothing! So I went home confused. Did I just blow the opportunity of a life time? Or did I just escape a possible sting or ROB operation?
F**ked if I know. Maybe she is an independent escort freelancing, an up and coming porn star or just a rouge bsw far from the normal track. Any comments mongers? Any intel on this chick? Okay, the weather should clear up. I was busy working today so I missed out on SB. How was it? I'll hit the track next week starting Mon afternoon. If the rain has gone away...
Laterz, da I Sadist
PS: Webcams, did the Latina look like Jessica the hot, young, teenager from last summer? She loves to smoke da KINE! She is petite, tight w/nice curves, wavy shoulder length blk hair, light skinned and cute in a girl next door way. Damn, I miss her...
vlad de sade it has always been my understanding that if a track hoe is on the real she is always stomping the pavement right? can't make no money standing in one spot, what kind of shoes was she wearing ? hey man keep those spidey senses working, they will keep you out of the grip.T59
They always have a room in a rat-hole motel nearby where they can arrest you quickly and easily. The motel usually has only one way in and out, so you have no escape route, and the pork can impound your car.
The pork makes the neighborhood look bad by parading those decoys on the streets. The PD decoys are usually so fugly they get turned down by most men, even dogs, therefore they relish the chance to slam the horny mongers. I bet the PD decoys could not get sex for years except weith their worn out dildos and vibrators.
While the porks are out busting mongers, their wives are home fucking all their neighbors for free.
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]Mongers,
She was nearly a 10 in my book. I got off of my cell ASAP and rolled down my passenger window. "Hey do YOU need a ride?" "Oh no, I got a room here at the lodge. Pull in and park honey." (Now my monger radar is on high alert) "Hey, I'm cool have a great night sweetie." I got the f**k out of there quick. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=One Wing Low].....The pork makes the neighborhood look bad by parading those decoys on the streets. The PD decoys are usually so fugly they get turned down by most men, even dogs, therefore they relish the chance to slam the horny mongers.[/QUOTE]Easy one wing low; Lately I have seen a few decoys that were to good to be true, Yes maybe borrowed from somewhere else maybe young recruits who knows, but these two were fine, never ever forget your basic rules of what to say and when to say it, no matter what she looks like. but your right Most of the LE women are dike looking and about 20 years out of there prime, and cop wives usually are pretty big sluts, I remember fucking one pigs girfriend in his bed after a party, looking back I just wish I would have blown a load on his pillow hehe. :)
One thing is funny to point out though your right on bringing the decoys out during the day, people don't know there decoys and it makes the area look bad, sometimes there out in areas not usually known for s/w's, so they call the cops, then they justify the campaign by using the complaints about the girls out to further there cause. What a world. Reminds me of the complaints of Condoms in the area outside strip joints, have you ever seen alot of condoms outside a strip joint? I have never seen any. Afterall Strip joints have bathrooms. Unless those are outlawed too
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]
I crossed Winnetka and made another uturn at the old Eden S&P mini mall lot. I then retraced my route crossing Winnetka again looking for the sting. I found nothing! So I went home confused. Did I just blow the opportunity of a life time? Or did I just escape a possible sting or ROB operation?
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I think you made the right decision.
There are only three things going on here...most likely none of them good for you:
1.) Cop sting.
2.) Setting you up with some m-fers in her room who will rob you when you get there.
3.) New to the scene and unfamiliar with safest practices for ho's. Basically, she is scared to get into cars.
Speck,
Brother, #3 is a good point. I never even figured she was a newbie afraid of car dating. It never even crossed my mind. Duh!
And here I was terrified to follow her into the one way motel lot. And she was probably terrified to get into my ride and leave her saftey zone. WTF. We both lost out on a possibly great sexual experience.
I do agree w/YOU all better safe than busted or robbed. My spider senses freaked when she refused the ride and countered w/follow me here... I figured I was busted just for pulling over and talking to her. My mongering senses told me to flee for my life and so I did.
Yet, she was walking, she was to hot to be LE IMHO, and it was sort of a good place for her to be working. I guess its similar to working Roscoe & De Soto. I'm still confused by this incident. However, I am free and thats all that matters. I hope she finds SB this coming week. I wanna nail her if its at all possible...
Laterz, da I Sadist
Vlad, is just pulling over and offering a ride illegal? It didnt sound like anything about sex or money was mentioned, so what was illegal? From what I've seen on shows they get the guy to commit before they offer the room, so when he gets there, he's already committed the crime.
If you go to her room, and she starts wanting you to make offers without some kind of samples, thus alieving your doubts, then I'd say sorry, I just was asking a pretty girl, i guess I should go.
Am I wrong in assuming that so long as no mongering terms are used like 'date' and no money has been offered, your are safe?
But as for any concerns about safety, well those are valid, and times I've gone to their rooms, I stand outside the door and look in, I listen for someone else, I look to see if she gets jumpy like expecting something to go down. If I feel ok, I go in but stay by the door, usually the rooms are small enough for you to check it out. Walk to the bathroom and peek in. Once the place is empty, I put the bolt on the door so someone cant come in while you are distracted.
There is certainly an element of danger in going to a room, but no more than pulling over in the side of the road. Least if busted in a room, you don't get lewd conduct or public indecency charges I would think.
Hell if she was hot enough, maybe you could have gotten your own room and seen how that went.
All in all though, I have always trusted my instincts and have done the same as you, it didn't feel right and I left.
[QUOTE=Vlad De Sade]
Yet, she was walking, she was to hot to be LE IMHO, and it was sort of a good place for her to be working. I guess its similar to working Roscoe & De Soto. I'm still confused by this incident. However, I am free and thats all that matters. I hope she finds SB this coming week. I wanna nail her if its at all possible...
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Guys thinking that LAPD undercover vice officers are bow wow's are sadly mistaken. They tend to recruit really hot looking, young officers to work the undercover vice assignments, and they switch them out a lot so that the same ones are not recognized over and over again.
Hotness of the sw is really not a consideration in whether a sw is an undercover or not.
The only two things your really have to go on are that she was walking and that she would not get in your car.
Seems like a obvious sting to me.....Just remember if you to her room you will have incriminate yourself at some point if you want to do her. You can bet that the cops have listening devices in the room. Your only protection is to ask if you can grab her when she is in the room.
It's better to avoid the hotel room unless she get's in your car or you know her.
I once read the actual laws on the books about prostitution and while I don't remember the details of everything cause it was in dense legalize, I do remember that I was struck by the fact that, in so many words, a monger can get busted for "intention" to monger. And "intention" comes in many forms:
1. Sure, if you negotiate and agree to a price for a sex act with an undercover LE, it's iron-clad. Intention is clear and they gotcha! But anybody with a week's experience isn't gonna hopefully do that!
2. If they stop you in a neighborhood "known for prostitution" and legally do a search for drugs/guns and find condoms, lube, viagra, etc, they got a case.
3. If you have a "known prostitute" (someone who has a record of prostitution) in the car or in a motel room and they stop you to investigate, they got a case.
4. If they simply observe you "cruising" in an area "known for prostitution", they got a case.
#4 is why the Pig is so dangerous, especially for a white guy. LE stops you and asks, "Are you lost? What are you doing here?" and it could be trouble, if you arouse suspicion for mongering. WTF are white guys cruising the Pig for anyway? Duh. If the ho's on the street are waving at you, it's a safe bet the vice or the LE in the cruiser sees you too! It's only a matter if they want to get into to it and bust your chops.
Basically, IMHO the best deal is avoiding LE period! While you're cruising. While you're picking up (even legitimate SWs). And while you're doing the deed, even in a notel. Can it be done 100% of the time? Not really. It's all about LUCK! And the fact that there aren't 100's of LE vice lurking on most tracks. Except on The Pig. I do worry that they are ALWAYS few cars THERE!
While most of the busts you hear about come as the result of "decoys", there are other flavors out there. And I don't believe there are any hard and fast rules that will protect you from getting busted all the time---like using monger slang like "date" or "100 roses" or any of that bullshit.
For me, I follow the monger commandment that says, "a street walker walks....she doesn't sit on bustop", even though some are lazy and do exactly that! And if they won't get in the ride right away, it's not going to work for me. No long conversations through the window or answering questions like, "What did you have in mind?" If that happens and she doesn't get in right away, I'll say, "Sorry, I must have you confused with someone else." And then finally...I also pray to the god of luck...that there are no po-po watching the scene at the time I'm picking up.
I hope some of this is helpful.
Good luck and stay safe in all ways!
Keeping the faith,
#2128
"4. If they simply observe you "cruising" in an area "known for prostitution", they got a case."
While cruising Sepulveda between Roscoe and victory, I just have a cover story ready, that I am looking for Classy Lady off one of these side streets. Will it hold? I dunno, but if I stick to it, and don't waver, what can they do. It's a solid reason to be driving around the area and making turns and going down sidestreets. I had been there long ago, and I am supposed to meet a friend there, and I forgot which side street it was on. Happy to say I've never had to use it. Point is, have a reason for driving back and forth other than just being out for a drive, I heard that that in itself can be a crime, dunno which one, but the laws are so jacked I wouldn't doubt it.
Your info is somewhat inaccurate:
2. Yes you can be busted for carrying loaded weapon. No you cannot be busted for simply cruising if you have a condom. You can be busted if you are seen stopping for a prostitute. This is how the Costa Mesa busted a few guys last year for criminal intent to solicit. There is some question as to legality, becuase it was being challenged in the Californial supreme court system. I have not heard any news recently, but it seems as though the cops had fairly slim evidence.
3.It's possible, but not probable...You can be cited for lewd conduct in a public place if they catch you in the act in a car. The cops may impound your car if they catch your if they catch in the act for "civil intent to solicit". The cops also use this rarely, because this is being challenged as well.
4. No, refer to answer 2.
The best thing to do is know the situation and your area. If you are uncertain just park and hang out. If there is sting or the cops are cracking down it will quickly be apparent. Sometimes I will just walk around to see what is happening.
Let's take a look at a few things, and then You decide! First if she won't get into your car, does that make her a cop? Yes and no, That is my rule anyways, I don't want to end up in jail or have my ride impounded so It's simple for me My rule that can't be denied is simple if she doesn't ride I don't say a word I have seen girls wearing skirts that don't cover there ass and see through shirts before who were no doubt working, but I do my best to stick to my rule, here's why. LE Won't get into your car and drive around the block, why because if you are a wacko maniac who pulls out a gun and shoots them in the face there dead, and LE has come to the conclusion it is not worth the risk to allow undercovers into the car, at least in this area other areas states might be different, that and the fact that you could simply be involved in a high speed chase with a little piglet in the car.
A few reasons s/w's don't want to go before they find out how much you have is simple allot of guys want f/s gfe cum in mouth 5 hour sessions... For $20, that get's old. Mostly the new girls will be dumb enough to ask you how much you got & if u want a date, Only problem with that is that the only date you or they end up with is sometimes is a Court date, don't be confused, Arrested whether you get a ticket or a ride to jail both are the same, and convicted are much different but in the end a married guy getting arrested whether he's convicted or not is bad enough and none of us can afford to pay a lawyer 2500 to 25000 to fight a case even if were innocent by that I don't mean we don't have money but the complete waste of money is my point. Now let's look at legality of there charges, LE has simply decided, that the risk, citing and arresting people for bs charges "Intent To Solicit" and wasting there time and money although blatantly Illegal and false in some or most instances, is the best way to combat prostitution. Sure some reverend who pulls over to preach is just as likely to get charged as any monger but they don't care sure you could pull over to ask directions and get cited, so they don't care. LE is pretty lazy in that all they do is ride down the street if they see girls standing on the sidewalk in certain areas, walking or not they will stop them and issue them a citation, this will continue until they get sued and get an order from the court telling them that's a no no.
Again LE shitting on the US Constitution, they don't care. They don't see it that way, they think there just helping the community.
S/w's Quality has declined; As stupid as it sounds, the pimps are to blame, now I'm no advocate of pimping , but back in the day the pimps wouldn't let the girls smoke, drink, sit or do damn near anything but work the track, you got what you paid for with most and they did the best they could because the pimps were watching, they knew they had to do a good job or they would get shit if they didn't, now these guys are in there 20's no nothing about the game other then how to get the $, and don't make the investment in there girls, some still do I have seen a few guys who's girls are dressed proper and walk the track the way they should, but for the most part it's not the same game.
Motels: to go or not? I Never get a girl and go to her room, nor do I ever even consider the girls who are working outside of them, First it could be a ROB, Second it could be LE, either way it's not worth it to me. Easier if you don't want a car date to find your own.
As mentioned earlier it really is luck, LE can stop you as you pull over to talk to a girl but that's not enough, how you handle the situation can be enough,
First NEVER admit to anything, is it Illegal to stop to talk to half naked hotties? No, if all you were doing is talking, once she get's in your car it's a toss up you must never admit to shit, just giving her a ride because she said some guys were chasing her, whatever. Just don't admit to shit. If negotiations were made she WILL tell the pig, and it's your word against her's.
LE will pull you both apart and work you against each other stand firm.
I myself never drive down dead end streets or go into Motels with one way in out unless I pick them, who knows what is lurking on the other side.
Just in case you haven't noticed although we don't live in Iran, our freedom of speech, and our other personal freedoms have been getting attacked from the right wing wackos who are for banning abortion and the liberal politicians are rolling right along with them, attacking prostitution like it is a form of terrorism. I still am a little confused as to how we can wipe out prostitution, but can't find a 7 foot tall saudi wearing a god damn turban on his head? Shouldn’t that be easy to do?
All My Rant Aside, Don't waste your time with girls who aren't walking the track or who won't get into your car. To legally carry a Weapon it must be Unloaded, and have the ammunition or magazine locked in a separate area of the vehicle I.E. Trunk, and the weapon may not be locked in the glove box it must be in a Locked container. Most of the time you can get away with it, if you’re glove box locks, and you have a separate trunk.
I have heard if you get busted for Lewd Conduct in a public place you may be required to register as a Sex Offender, and I am sure you have seen how those guys get treated.
As for "Cruising Laws", If you pass the same point within a two or four hour period more then once or twice it is a violation, I thought there had to be Sign's Posted for that law to be enforced not sure.
Just remember we all do it difffrent although our end goal is the same, and if your really concerned with the legality of a situation contact a Real Lawyer, If you want to know the law on most things just call your local Police Station, ask them how to carry a weapon etc. They will tell you.
1. Never deal with girls who refuse to go in your car.
2. Never follow girls into their rooms.
3. Never propose to a girl until you checked out the place, and had your hands thoroughly check out her tits, pussy, clit...
etc...
Simples rules, but I know an old attorney and experienced monger who was busted twice in the last couple years, despite knowing all these little safety rules. The pork can sometimes be very creative setting you up for the bust, and when one is too horny, the big head sometimes stops working and the little head takes over....
I read about an old judge in Pomona Superior Court who had sexual liaison with the wife of a Chinese undergoing trial in his court, ended up losing his job in disgrace. That proves free pussies can be very expensive and damaging. The old fart would probably have done fine if he could go to bordellos and pay for his little fun while bragging about his power in court etc...
Fuck the stupid hipocrisy in the US. I bet sexual frustration has driven a lot of sane men to violent crimes or other serious addictions, which can be far worse to society in consequence.
We need to commisison some serious researches into the true costs and consequences to society arising from the policy of prostitution prohibition, and suggest better alternatives. You think George and Arnold would back us up?
What about the 14th Amendment guaranteeing all Americans their constitutional rights to buy and sell sex?
[QUOTE=Member #2128]While most of the busts you hear about come as the result of "decoys", there are other flavors out there. And I don't believe there are any hard and fast rules that will protect you from getting busted all the time---like using monger slang like "date" or "100 roses" or any of that bullshit.
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That's the TRUTH.
But I don't believe all this OTHER nonsense such as;
1. "If it's too good to be true...".
Yeah right. ;) There are TONS of hot girls who want to go and do dangerous undercover work. I know this observation is entirely subjective (define "hot") but I've NEVER seen a female cop who was above a 7 on my scale. HOT girls can get real jobs like the following; model, stripper, escort/hooker/wh0re, waitress/actress/porn star, trophy wife, ect. And you will NEVER see a decoy with titty and/or ass hanging out.
2. "Girls that stand in the same place are sketchy. Beware."
Somewhat true. I know that LE decoys will usually stand in one place. Typically near a motel. But legit girls do it too. I had a girl explain it to me once. It makes sense to stay in a specific location (parking lot, storefront, bus stop, ect.) because of the following; mongers will know where they can find you which leads to faster dates especially if the hotel manager is cool with the girl working there, their pimp can keep an easy eye on them and they feel safer, and trails of cars following a girl walking (re. Sunset) is just a BAD idea-you may as well hold up a sign that says "Hi pigs! I'm here!", and staying in one spot/vicinity limits their exposure to the eyes of LE.
The only hard and fast rule I follow is to check out the area I'm cruising before I make any moves. Countless hours of driving, watching and listening have sharpened my "spidey senses". That's the best advice I feel I can give to anyone who partakes in this hobby - cruise, cruise, cruise. Know the terrain. And be prepared to let some nice looking pussy walk away because it just doesn't feel right. As a Sadist might say it; that's my rule. YOURS may be different.
Joe
[QUOTE=One Wing Low] The pork can sometimes be very creative setting you up for the bust, and when one is too horny, the big head sometimes stops working and the little head takes over....
....What about the 14th Amendment guaranteeing all Americans their constitutional rights to buy and sell sex?[/QUOTE]
One Wing we forgot to mention one other important point; after all our hard work LE can just as easily Lie and SAY that we solicited a girl and bust us just the same.
14th ammendment really doesn't apply because they give us our alleged [i]due process[/i], How much of this fervor is a result of the Janet Jackson breast incident? After that indecency wackos got a huge leg up.
... about LE decoys being old, haggard or unattractive, I have personally seen with my own eyes LE and their small group of decoys on a known track here in LA and they were NOT bad looking at all.
While driving up a known track I spotted not one but two decent looking sw's, 1 bsw and 1 lsw. The bsw was cute and had a nice slim figure and the lsw was a little on the thick side but still good looking. Neither looked older than 24. Neither one was glued to one spot either. They did not travel far but they were moving.
The lsw had sparked my interest so I turned up a side street to make a block wrap around, instead of a risky u-turn. The street she was on was a major LA street, but the side street I was coming down was residential so I crept up very slowly, scanning the entire area for anything suspicious. Funny thing was I didn't have to look very far. About midway down this small side street was an unmarked LE crown victoria, with one LE officer (shiny badge visible even at night) and 3 more (attractive younger) girls standing outside of his car, one in his passenger seat, looking down towards the SW's on the corner. He had his radio up to his mouth when we made eye contact with each other and needless to say I left the area immediately. But this revealed to me 2 things; 1) LE decoys can be particularly deceptive as they were not stunning 10's nor were they old fat pigs as some have suggested. and 2) that LE is active in this particular area looking to bust mongers.
[QUOTE=AverageJohn]... about LE decoys being old, haggard or unattractive, I have personally seen with my own eyes LE and their small group of decoys on a known track here in LA and they were NOT bad looking at all. [/QUOTE]
I'm not saying that all decoys look like dogs. But have you ever seen decoys that look like these?
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No way. All I'm saying is that it's pretty easy to determine if a girl is a decoy or not. There are three ways that come to mind;
1. Open your car window and see if you can detect the smell of bacon.
2. Scope her out. Scope out the area. Do the necessary recon. If something's going on you'll find out soon enough.
3. You will NEVER see a decoy wearing a skirt that shows ass, a shirt that's so low that titties are almost popping out, ect.
Consider how dangerous this hobby is and how much we have to lose by getting busted. If you don't have 15, 30, or even 45 minutes to waste cruising an area before you make your move then you deserve to get busted.
Joe
Here in the Valley (staying with the thread!) Everyone today focuses on "decoys". LE Stings with "decoys" waving in parking lots. At bus stops. Is she LE? Is she SW? Too good-looking to be LE! Blah...blah and blah.
However, in the heyday of the Sunset days, pre-Bratton, when vice was not something mongers worried about 24/7 like today, I picked up a "new friend" in Hollywood WHO WAS STANDING ON THE CORNER and we drove to my favorite no-tell on Western, where I had been dozens of times without trouble or incident. After we were in the room about 10 minutes, there's a loud knock on the door and 3 vice officers storm inside, flashing badges and yelling "Police Officers!" Then..."Did you know this woman is a known prostitute?" "Did you give her any money?"
They separated us to ask questions and soon get conflicting stories and basically, I'm busted. She was no decoy. She was real, but LE was hanging out somewhere in the shadows----watching her and waiting for some fool like me to pick her up....and then following us. She wasn't LE, but because she wasn't moving, they used her like a decoy anyway! BSW bobbing on the corner like bait, looking real tasty to a young trout like me. I guess they hooked their fish.
Today times have changed.
Watch your ass brothers! And watch it good!
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Sorry to hear you got busted. Awhile back I remember that the cops were conducting a sting. The decoy refused to get in the car, so turned her down. This other guy pulled up and was thinking of warning him. The guy fell for the trap and got busted.
You made a several mistakes, which is easy to do. Under the law the you are not required to answer the door unless the cops have a warrant. You should have remained silent unless you had a lawyer. You should probably look into getting a lawyer who specializes in sex related cases. I will search when I get the chance and post his info.
Webcam,
You are right. If the cops hate you, they can be very personal and ugly. The whole precinct would lie like dogs to get you locked up.
If you want justice in America, you need to pay lots of dollars to high-price attorneys to get you off the hook.
[QUOTE=Webcams]One Wing we forgot to mention one other important point; after all our hard work LE can just as easily Lie and SAY that we solicited a girl and bust us just the same.
14th ammendment really doesn't apply because they give us our alleged [i]due process[/i], How much of this fervor is a result of the Janet Jackson breast incident? After that indecency wackos got a huge leg up.[/QUOTE]
Was the BSW mentioned below a decoy or just in the area? I wonder, has anyone ever seen a black policewoman, of any looks or age? In LA or anywhere else? I'm not sure if I ever have. Private security yes, but not an actual policewoman that I can recall. That doesn't mean there aren't any just becuase I haven't seen it, but I think they might be pretty rare. Does anyone know if LAPD has statistics easily available on that kind of thing, maybe published somewhere in response to questions about their equal employment opportunity and recruiting practices? I'd be curious about it, becuase it affects my calculation of SOME of my risks whether there are say as many as 300, or only 3 in the whole LAPD, since I usually prefer BSWs.
On liars: in my opinion there is no legitimate excuse for not having dash cams and recording devices as standard equipment on every single LE vehicle to document every public contact without exception. Every honest cop wanting to do a good job should not only welcome that but demand that it be done yesterday for their own protection, and the only possible reason for any LE organization not to do it is becuase of fear of revealing something sleazy. Seems to me that demanding that is something nobody could honestly oppose no matter what political point of view they hold, since it can only serve to objectively document the truth, yet while some LE agencies have done it, some others have been reluctant to let their work be recorded. I would consider that a good clue as to what kind of organization a local LE agency really is and wants to be.
[QUOTE=Member #2128]However, in the heyday of the Sunset days, pre-Bratton, when vice was not something mongers worried about 24/7 like today, I picked up a "new friend" in Hollywood WHO WAS STANDING ON THE CORNER and we drove to my favorite no-tell on Western, where I had been dozens of times without trouble or incident. After we were in the room about 10 minutes, there's a loud knock on the door and 3 vice officers storm inside, flashing badges and yelling "Police Officers!" Then..."Did you know this woman is a known prostitute?" "Did you give her any money?"
They separated us to ask questions and soon get conflicting stories and basically, I'm busted. She was no decoy. She was real, but LE was hanging out somewhere in the shadows----watching her and waiting for some fool like me to pick her up....and then following us. She wasn't LE, but because she wasn't moving, they used her like a decoy anyway! BSW bobbing on the corner like bait, looking real tasty to a young trout like me. I guess they hooked their fish.[/QUOTE]
Sorry to hear that you got busted. And yes, you ARE right. Sometimes experience and preparation are negated by luck. Good or bad. And for all the concern over LE I'd be willing to bet that our worst enemys are;
1. Ourselves.
2. ROB's/Pimps.
Just keeping it REAL.
P.S. To everyone that assumes a hotty SW just HAS to be TGTBT, please continue to NOT pick them up. You're just leaving more pussy for the rest of us.
An UC·LEO will *always* wear what I call "sensible shoes"
By this I mean flat·soled shoes that cover the entire foot , like tennis shoes
If a girl is wearing 'sensible shoes' , she may or may not be a LEO — but if she's wearing some·thing like open·toed sandals , platform pumps , or spiked heels = she is NOT a Cop
EXAMPLES = the girl "ButterFace" pictured here is NOT a Cop , guaranteed ; nor are the girls in shot 512.jpg . The girl in 511.jpg is wearing sensible shoes , so approach her with Caution =
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[QUOTE=Wastrel]Was the BSW mentioned below a decoy or just in the area? I wonder, has anyone ever seen a black policewoman, of any looks or age? In LA or anywhere else? .... I'd be curious about it, becuase it affects my calculation of SOME of my risks whether there are say as many as 300, or only 3 in the whole LAPD, since I usually prefer BSWs.
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The LAPD has roughly 9,000 police officers . Among the largest law enforcement agencies in the country , women comprise only 13.8% of all sworn law enforcement positions; women of color hold 6.0%.
Extrapolating from these figures , the LAPD has ~ 540 black female LEOs ; and probably at least a few of those are good·looking enough to serve as Decoys