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Anyone have any luck with this one? Super hot but not sure she ever meets or does anything physical.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea460d7a/view?interests-my-favorites[/URL]
With the increased LEO attention on the hobby, I've Ben trolling the SDSB sites.
I've found that there are lots of girls with profiles, they are miles behind your typical hobbyist in the P 4 P concept. Frankly, they just don't know what they're doing.
You have to invest so much time in the texting and chatting. My conclusion is to find a good provider and leave the amateurs behind.
[QUOTE=BigBubbaBobby;2313757]Anyone have any luck with this one? Super hot but not sure she ever meets or does anything physical.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea460d7a/view?interests-my-favorites[/URL][/QUOTE]Dreamed with Ana in early October, she was delightful and attentive to my needs. While it is true that she is somewhat thicker than desirable she knows how to please and I will repeat next time I visit Nashville.
If you just want a hole to put your Dick in, stay away from the SD / SB sites. Which is why I'll continue to put in the efforts.
[QUOTE=CaptainY;2316404]With the increased LEO attention on the hobby, I've Ben trolling the SDSB sites.
I've found that there are lots of girls with profiles, they are miles behind your typical hobbyist in the P 4 P concept. Frankly, they just don't know what they're doing.
You have to invest so much time in the texting and chatting. My conclusion is to find a good provider and leave the amateurs behind.[/QUOTE]
I met a girl last year on a Sugardaddy website. She was AMAZING. Single mom. For baby food, diapers, etc, I ended up more than happy! DATY, GFE, DFK, etc. Everything that I wanted. In fact, I ended up giving her money because I didn't feel that I was being fair to her. We talked a lot besides the sex stuff. It evolved, and she was never pushy. The oddest thing was that eventually I learned that I was Facebook friends with her grandmother!
We ended up in a real relationship. I have pics, including some great nudes, but out of respect for her I wouldn't post any on here. It was the BEST package anybody could want. We dated from May through September. I am mid-40's, and she was 21 at the time. Alas, she eventually moved away to another state far, far away so she could be near family that moved out there.
I noticed recently that she started advertising again on the SD site out there. Some lucky dude is going to land a great girl. I post this not to brag, but to point out that there are success stories using SD sites.
Frankly, I'm looking for one girl that I can spend some drama-free time with like this girl.
Long time lurker on here. I'm active on some other boards.
I read through the Knoxville SA thread and it inspired me to try out SA. I went ahead and did a 1 month membership. So far, I've been texting with a few and should start meeting some over the next week.
I'll post an update once I've met a few.
Good luck to everyone:).
Does anyone have advice or experiences they can share from that site? I recently joined is based upon finding it mentioned here. So far seems interesting, a little more work, but interesting.
FYI, this is my first post on here with this account, used to be another one, but honestly probably only had around 10 posts on that account.
I do have a good bit of experience in the SB / SD arena. There is def. Mutual availability there, but it requires an amazing amount of time, energy and in some cases $$ up front to get something going. The vast majority of the girls are just scamming and tire kicking. The really young hot chicks want an allowance $1500-$2000 K a month plus shopping and extravagant gifts for a guaranteed nothing in return. Um not me. I have never gone that route, I have in the 3 years or so of dabbling in the sport landed two that were sweet, sincere and affordable, but honestly spent way too much time to get the connection going. It is however NOT illegal, just like paying for your girlfriends Apt. Gas money etc. If you are exceptionally vulnerable and could not accept the consequences of the fallout of an interaction with LE in the escorting scene it is an alternative. The convenience is not good, you have to pre-plan all visits as these girls in most cases have real lives they have to work around too. I have seen a few providers listed on the SD sites as well so there you go it rolls both ways.
As always be safe.
F&G.
[QUOTE=RebelKnight13;2316811]I met a girl last year on a Sugardaddy website. She was AMAZING. Single mom. For baby food, diapers, etc, I ended up more than happy! DATY, GFE, DFK, etc. Everything that I wanted. In fact, I ended up giving her money because I didn't feel that I was being fair to her. We talked a lot besides the sex stuff. It evolved, and she was never pushy. The oddest thing was that eventually I learned that I was Facebook friends with her grandmother!
We ended up in a real relationship. I have pics, including some great nudes, but out of respect for her I wouldn't post any on here. It was the BEST package anybody could want. We dated from May through September. I am mid-40's, and she was 21 at the time. Alas, she eventually moved away to another state far, far away so she could be near family that moved out there.
I noticed recently that she started advertising again on the SD site out there. Some lucky dude is going to land a great girl. I post this not to brag, but to point out that there are success stories using SD sites.
Frankly, I'm looking for one girl that I can spend some drama-free time with like this girl.[/QUOTE]
I've been on [URL]SA.com[/URL] for over a year now.
I agree most of the ladies are tire kickers and have no intention of meeting or get scared and bail, even after texting.
I never pay for a Meet and Greet and don't help her financially until after sex. This is where alot of them bail or say they are not ****** LOL. If she wants money up front she is probably an UTR hooker.
The success rate is not good and it does require alot of effort, but when you find a special girl it is kinda like having a GF and you are able to help out a young girl.
I'm enjoying, at the very least, browsing the girls on SA. I've got a couple if conversations going, with the hope of meeting this week for the first time. I'm staying away from girls in college. Seems like trouble and also that they need some more "life" under their belt to know how to approach this type if situation.
What's strange is that some girls seem to treat it like a dating site. Others, though, seem to know the game with some subtext in their profiles. I just haven't figured out if they know what they're saying.
I just can't figure out how to properly monetize this. I guess I let them set the price, and let them open the bidding. I'm hoping to have a fwb for about 2-3 meets a month, with physical on 1-2 of those.
Side note: I've been playing on AM for two months, and what a waste of time. I'm youngish, good looking, and have a little game, but holy crap. There are so many men on there versus women that you can't get any traction. Then, on the hot ones (and non-crazy too) that I've got on emails, we have great connection, and then they chicken out and delete their accounts and stop emailing.
It's been frustrating. At least on SA, the guys have more leverage.
[QUOTE=MoostacheTN;2317364]Does anyone have advice or experiences they can share from that site? I recently joined is based upon finding it mentioned here. So far seems interesting, a little more work, but interesting.
FYI, this is my first post on here with this account, used to be another one, but honestly probably only had around 10 posts on that account.[/QUOTE]Screen, screen, screen, then move fast or move on. SD4 Me seem to have quite a few with criminal records. Love when you've been talking to a girl for a week then she hits you up for her PO fees when she was supposed to be on her way to meet for lunch. :/ (happened with a brunette from Murfreesboro).
If you have trouble with chemistry or control, prob best to stick to provider side of things.
But when it works, it's an unbelievable experience! Had 3 of them that lasted over a year, 2 ended when they finally decided on a real relationship, 1 still ongoing. Every once in a while, life gets in the way and makes things difficult (schedules, emergencies, etc. You either have to budget for her emergencies or finding a new one every once in a while), and I lean back to the provider side of things, but overall, just can't beat a hot, fun sugar baby that's into you.
[QUOTE=TNtimer;2318931] But when it works, it's an unbelievable experience! Had 3 of them that lasted over a year, 2 ended when they finally decided on a real relationship, 1 still ongoing. Every once in a while, life gets in the way and makes things difficult (schedules, emergencies, etc. You either have to budget for her emergencies or finding a new one every once in a while), and I lean back to the provider side of things, but overall, just can't beat a hot, fun sugar baby that's into you.[/QUOTE]This sounds great, but what's the general idea of cost? Per date (at first)? Monthly?
I don't know how to monetize it, so I'm going into a M & G with a girl I've vetted and am going to see what she proposes.
[QUOTE=CaptainY;2318883]I just can't figure out how to properly monetize this. I guess I let them set the price, and let them open the bidding. I'm hoping to have a fwb for about 2-3 meets a month, with physical on 1-2 of those. [/QUOTE]Always set the price yourself. I always do it upfront but some guys like to M&G first and then hit them up with their offer at the end of the M&G.
I'm seeing some if the same girls I saw on AM when I search on SA. What's cool is that, on SA, they're reaching out to me.
I think it's strange that, if you asked a civilian girl about escorting, they'd act like you asked them to murder a puppy. But, then, on SA, they're not that far away from what we do here.
[QUOTE=CaptainY;2320045]I'm seeing some if the same girls I saw on AM when I search on SA. What's cool is that, on SA, they're reaching out to me.
I think it's strange that, if you asked a civilian girl about escorting, they'd act like you asked them to murder a puppy. But, then, on SA, they're not that far away from what we do here.[/QUOTE]So murdering puppies is off the menu now?
Good to know.
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;2320115]So murdering puppies is off the menu now?
Good to know.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]Damnit! I guess I better shut down the mill.
[QUOTE=Cullen;2320258]Damnit! I guess I better shut down the mill.[/QUOTE]I've noticed that an unusual number of providers profess their love of pit bulls, maybe you should keep a litter or two around for barter?
Might help with the SB's. They can pretend they aren't playing for pay. . . Who could begrudge them a cute pup from a mysterious benefactor?
-Jeepster1.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2319934]Always set the price yourself. I always do it upfront but some guys like to M&G first and then hit them up with their offer at the end of the M&G.[/QUOTE]On average, I try for 4, with 3 BCD / physical.
Budget around 800.
However, sky's the limit, and you sometimes find the one who truly is just looking for a nice guy and fb, who doesn't want anything much more than that.
To the other suggestions below.
You'd defiantly be better off establishing a "goal" for the girl before you meet up to avoid wasting your time. Nothing worse than meeting a very agreeable Co-ed that has a bad case of GPS.
My norm is to budget around $1. 2 per month. That can / will be adjusted depending is she has a place or not. In addition it can be increased if non-cash gifts are given.
I go for weekly meetings, depending if she has transportation. The last one depended on Uber, I had to go to her, after class which was inconvenient, so the rate was adjusted down.
Alternatively, my prior (to that one) came down to me from Clarksville around lunch each week. Very convenient so the price went up for me.
All depends on what you want and what your comfortable with. Get the "logistics" out of the way early as not to try yourself to a potential, that will be hard (pun) to make work. There are too many to fuck with those.
What works well for me is to meet, plant the seed (idea) and sit back, let them come at you. If you've established your particulars, she will know what's she's getting into. I tend to go for the younger set (gasp!) and they have a general idea what this (SD / SB) is, but tend to get second thoughts about letting a good looking, well endowed, older guy fuck them for sport! Not until they are in a real financial bind do they submit and find that it actually works to their advantage.
He'll, I've lost track of how much tuition I've paid for these girls!
[QUOTE=CaptainY;2319753]This sounds great, but what's the general idea of cost? Per date (at first)? Monthly?
I don't know how to monetize it, so I'm going into a M & G with a girl I've vetted and am going to see what she proposes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HossCartwright;2320866]To the other suggestions below.
You'd defiantly be better off establishing a "goal" for the girl before you meet up to avoid wasting your time. Nothing worse than meeting a very agreeable Co-ed that has a bad case of GPS.
My norm is to budget around $1. 2 per month. That can / will be adjusted depending is she has a place or not. In addition it can be increased if non-cash gifts are given.
I go for weekly meetings, depending if she has transportation. The last one depended on Uber, I had to go to her, after class which was inconvenient, so the rate was adjusted down.
Alternatively, my prior (to that one) came down to me from Clarksville around lunch each week. Very convenient so the price went up for me.
All depends on what you want and what your comfortable with. Get the "logistics" out of the way early as not to try yourself to a potential, that will be hard (pun) to make work. There are too many to fuck with those.
What works well for me is to meet, plant the seed (idea) and sit back, let them come at you. If you've established your particulars, she will know what's she's getting into. I tend to go for the younger set (gasp!) and they have a general idea what this (SD / SB) is, but tend to get second thoughts about letting a good looking, well endowed, older guy fuck them for sport! Not until they are in a real financial bind do they submit and find that it actually works to their advantage.
He'll, I've lost track of how much tuition I've paid for these girls![/QUOTE]Thank have my first M&G tomorrow night.
My suggestion as to M&G's.
Keep it light. I prefer lunch or coffee. If it turns bad you can take it to-go! Ha!
Don't press hard, if at all on the P4 P aspect of an arrangement.
[QUOTE=MoostacheTN;2321431]Thank have my first M&G tomorrow night.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HossCartwright;2321891]My suggestion as to M&G's.
Keep it light. I prefer lunch or coffee. If it turns bad you can take it to-go! Ha!
Don't press hard, if at all on the P4 P aspect of an arrangement.[/QUOTE]My preference as well, but this one is just a drink. Should be safe.
[QUOTE=MoostacheTN;2322458]My preference as well, but this one is just a drink. Should be safe.[/QUOTE]Thought I would follow up on my experiences so far. Had 2 M&Gs after quite a bit of talking. The 2 are completely different in terms of what they are looking for. One is quite a freak and look for the occasional gift, the other looking for more of someone to help in the business world. Both are very nice.
First post on this site, but I had to chime in on SA. As a side note, I've dreamt of a couple ladies after reading reviews on here. Both were excellent, albeit somewhat different experiences. (Adrien and Candy Redd).
Back to SA. I've been on there a very short time. Less than a couple weeks. I actually purposely left most of my info vague. With one G rated private photo set. I have to say, it's a bit like trying to drink from a fire hose. I've talked with women that offered straight up pay for play, to ones just looking for a good time / fb situation.
The pay for pay chick is smoking hot, but I haven't jumped on that. Little head may take over at some point.
1st meet and greet, mid thirties blond, maybe a 7, actually looked like her pics. Ended up back at her place after a few drinks, spent the next few hours banging the headboard against the wall. Wild one. Just about wore me out. Total investment a couple drinks. Plan to see her again for sure. No discussion of "arrangement".
2nd meet and greet, younger, post college single mom type. Also not bad looking, amazing rack on her. After coffee and some discussion ended up with her lips around mr happy in my car. No discussion of "an arrangement".
3rd meet and greet, another mid 30's woman. Met her and was a little stunned. Actually looked better in person than her pics. Without having seen the unwrapped package, I'd say a solid 8. Maybe better. Seriously hot. Great evening, drinks and dinner. Little making out, but nothing more that time. Skirted around discussing arrangement. She decided we could figure it out later. Definitely plan on seeing her again.
Have another m&g set for this weekend. After that, I'm going to have to cut it down to a couple. LOL. And stop answering messages on there.
It's been a blast already.
[QUOTE=MoostacheTN;2325303]Thought I would follow up on my experiences so far. Had 2 M&Gs after quite a bit of talking. The 2 are completely different in terms of what they are looking for. One is quite a freak and look for the occasional gift, the other looking for more of someone to help in the business world. Both are very nice.[/QUOTE]If you decide to pass on the freaky one, feel free to send a link to her profile!
Had one I was interested in from Belmont, but she dropped off.
[QUOTE=SteelTony36;2325821]First post on this site, but I had to chime in on SA. As a side note, I've dreamt of a couple ladies after reading reviews on here. Both were excellent, albeit somewhat different experiences. (Adrien and Candy Redd).
Back to SA. I've been on there a very short time. Less than a couple weeks. I actually purposely left most of my info vague. With one G rated private photo set. I have to say, it's a bit like trying to drink from a fire hose. I've talked with women that offered straight up pay for play, to ones just looking for a good time / fb situation.
The pay for pay chick is smoking hot, but I haven't jumped on that. Little head may take over at some point.
1st meet and greet, mid thirties blond, maybe a 7, actually looked like her pics. Ended up back at her place after a few drinks, spent the next few hours banging the headboard against the wall. Wild one. Just about wore me out. Total investment a couple drinks. Plan to see her again for sure. No discussion of "arrangement".
2nd meet and greet, younger, post college single mom type. Also not bad looking, amazing rack on her. After coffee and some discussion ended up with her lips around mr happy in my car. No discussion of "an arrangement".
3rd meet and greet, another mid 30's woman. Met her and was a little stunned. Actually looked better in person than her pics. Without having seen the unwrapped package, I'd say a solid 8. Maybe better. Seriously hot. Great evening, drinks and dinner. Little making out, but nothing more that time. Skirted around discussing arrangement. She decided we could figure it out later. Definitely plan on seeing her again.
Have another m&g set for this weekend. After that, I'm going to have to cut it down to a couple. LOL. And stop answering messages on there.
It's been a blast already.[/QUOTE]My new hero!
Looking foward to more posts as your adventures continue.
-Jeepster1.
Thanks jeepster.
Yeah my biggest problem to this point has been finding time to work them all in. If only I didn't have to work during the day. Ha.
Well the M&G Friday night didn't pan out, should have known, 20 year old "college" student. No showed. No biggie had a coffee and went on about my night.
Set up a M&G for Saturday night. This one had a case of GPS. Great looking girl, mid 20's. Was expecting 1. 5 k a month plus gifts each visit. Two visits a month. With the other prospects currently in the loop, not jumping on it.
Working out a playtime visit with the solid 8 this week.
Messages from several others that are basically just straight up pay for play.
On the younger ones. Admittedly they are the flaky type. They do most often require more effort to make it work.
HOWEVER.
Play it the right way and they will know where to go for that little extra when they REALLY need it. Case in point: I've let my membership to SA expire. Sometime in Nov if I remember correctly. Last week, a great little spinner (19 YO MTSU Student, ex-cheerleader, spinner) from Franklin sent a text wanting to see each other again. I'd met her for lunch / dinner a few times, gave her some funny money each time ($40 x3). I'd think she got skittish of the whole idea of a SD / SB arrangement and really became flaky when it was time to try out the Benefits in FWB. Crossed her off the "must bone" list and moved on.
Fast forward to last week, met for Dinner, she in her cute voice tells me that she wants to move out of her parents house this semester. Full load at MTSU, part time gig, yeah. She's hard up for cash. Later, we discuss things more intimately. Great DFK session ending with BBBJCIM and an agreement to weekly meets all for the price of rent money.
Hmmm, weekly meets, should be 1-2 hours per meet all for $600? Yeah, I think I can do that.
[QUOTE=SteelTony36;2328531]Thanks jeepster.
Yeah my biggest problem to this point has been finding time to work them all in. If only I didn't have to work during the day. Ha.
Well the M&G Friday night didn't pan out, should have known, 20 year old "college" student. No showed. No biggie had a coffee and went on about my night.
Set up a M&G for Saturday night. This one had a case of GPS. Great looking girl, mid 20's. Was expecting 1. 5 k a month plus gifts each visit. Two visits a month. With the other prospects currently in the loop, not jumping on it.
Working out a playtime visit with the solid 8 this week.
Messages from several others that are basically just straight up pay for play.[/QUOTE]
Say thank you to the guy driving the Black Cadillac Escalade. You sir, have single handily added more SB's to my small harem over the last year.
Just did a meet and' greet and she mentioned you again!
I'm new and just need to find some good times. Don't kno how to get the first one.
[QUOTE=MelWhiteBee;2340466]I'm new and just need to find some good times. Don't kno how to get the first one.[/QUOTE]I am new as well, but it takes time and a little luck. Believe it or not, I have run into quite a few that are frustrated with how few of the guys are serious. Also, don't be afraid to look at some that are out of town but within a couple or three hours drive.
[QUOTE=MoostacheTN;2341002]I am new as well, but it takes time and a little luck. Believe it or not, I have run into quite a few that are frustrated with how few of the guys are serious. Also, don't be afraid to look at some that are out of town but within a couple or three hours drive.[/QUOTE]Screen for time wasters. If they're not willing to meet up with in a few days of first talking, prob best to move on. If I knew whether A2 and this board's personal admin would allow it, I'd see if we could post profiles and intelligence on them- but have seen that backfire on other forums before too, so understand if verboten.
Don't be overly crass. Feel free to state what you're lookin for, and do so early in the convo, but don't beat her over the head with it.
Met one yesterday- had a couple of drinks at lunch, she felt comfortable, we parted ways- then I got a text soon as I pulled in the driveway wondering if I had time to play.
Well worth the ass chewing I took for leaving work early.
Making them feel comfortable, treating them decently, but being upfront about expectations, you can cut the wheat from the chaff, and find a diamond.
[blue]Not sure what you're talking about with "I'd see if we could post profiles and intelligence on them" you can PM me and talk about it if you want.
A2[/blue]
Last night, 48 Hours had a case that dealt with a couple who had met off SA, although they didn't maintain that was the cause of the alleged muder. It was just a piece of the whole puzzle, but it showed a bit of the inner workings.
[QUOTE=Jeepster1;2326762]My new hero!
Looking foward to more posts as your adventures continue.
-Jeepster1.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TNtimer;2342317]Screen for time wasters. If they're not willing to meet up with in a few days of first talking, prob best to move on. If I knew whether A2 and this board's personal admin would allow it, I'd see if we could post profiles and intelligence on them- but have seen that backfire on other forums before too, so understand if verboten.
Don't be overly crass. Feel free to state what you're lookin for, and do so early in the convo, but don't beat her over the head with it.
Met one yesterday- had a couple of drinks at lunch, she felt comfortable, we parted ways- then I got a text soon as I pulled in the driveway wondering if I had time to play.
Well worth the ass chewing I took for leaving work early.
Making them feel comfortable, treating them decently, but being upfront about expectations, you can cut the wheat from the chaff, and find a diamond.
[blue]Not sure what you're talking about with "I'd see if we could post profiles and intelligence on them" you can PM me and talk about it if you want.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Manners and decency go a long way with most of these girls. As does being straightforward about what you are looking for, without being crass about it.
I'm having ALOT of fun on SA.
Some guys can be just as shady as the girls on SA. You have to be prepared to weed through the ones who aren't really serious. - experienced sugar baby.
[QUOTE=GirlLila;2353715]Some guys can be just as shady as the girls on SA. You have to be prepared to weed through the ones who aren't really serious. - experienced sugar baby.[/QUOTE]Would love to hear more from your perspective! This site is always better with feminine contributions.
-Jeepster1.
Something to be said about Spinners!. Say hello to Kimmie!
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Posting this comment is akin to saying a day without sunshine is like night!? At.
No harm intended, but we've communicated on that site prior, short tit-4-tat. Even without knowing you posted on this site, I could easily tell you were a "pro". Most SD's are not interested in the P (four) P type simply because its not just the act that we are after. Its an all encompassing relation, albeit short term (per meeting).
You look great, I'm certain that you provide a great experience and I do agree that we have to weed through a large volume of crap to glean those that enjoy a SD / SB relation. I am not saying that you cannot be "converted" mind you. It's just difficult for the average SD to do so. Once most figure out that you are a "pro" they get guarded. With the history of BNA and "pro's" can you blame them?
[QUOTE=GirlLila;2353715]Some guys can be just as shady as the girls on SA. You have to be prepared to weed through the ones who aren't really serious. - experienced sugar baby.[/QUOTE]
After some so so experiences, tonight was exactly what I was looking for. Young, pretty, nice and she is very interested. It takes more time, but I am very happy with the experience.