IE Sugar Forum

[QUOTE=ClimbingUp;6741536]Ace, can you start up a new thread for " IE Sugarbaby Intel " or similar? I tried but didn't have access. Trying to share some SB Intel and reports. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shoot47;6742613]I second that.[/QUOTE]Here you go. Geographically speaking, the IE is much bigger than LA, OC, SD, and SFV combined. I consider the western border to be the 71 fwy to Pomona, the southern limit to Temecula, the northern border to be the Apple Valley, and the eastern border to be Palm Springs.

SB-wise, I have had plenty of success in the IE. About 90% of my sugaring is between OC and IE and the other 10% LA and SD.

I work in Riverside at times, and it is a good way for me to meet up w / SBs out of my home base. I have a few I saw in the past year, none of them I would like to release into the wild.

Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. There seems to be lots of potential in the area that I'm targeting. Pretty much if you drew a triangle from San Bernadino to Riverside to Claremont. One successful connection so far with a kinky low 30's single mom. Casual meet and greet first and then a couple 300 ppm trysts. I do covered by choice but the experience is still a fun change up from the usual mechanical AMP or escort experience.

I'm curious what kind of mileage you guys are getting and with what typical donations. I'm pretty up front about 300 ppm and so far getting decent interest from cute curvy latinas around 25-35 yo. A decent amount of girls still want 500 but I don't feel the need to entertain that unless they are a true bombshell. I've stopped bothering with the bombshell dancer level girls because they seem to all demand way too much. I'd rather escort if it's going to take 500 plus addition date fees.

Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould [URL]https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US[/URL] and [URL]https://www.dayuse.com/[/URL] that has some availability around ontario airport area.

[QUOTE=ClimbingUp;6750894]Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. There seems to be lots of potential in the area that I'm targeting. Pretty much if you drew a triangle from San Bernadino to Riverside to Claremont. One successful connection so far with a kinky low 30's single mom. Casual meet and greet first and then a couple 300 ppm trysts. I do covered by choice but the experience is still a fun change up from the usual mechanical AMP or escort experience.

I'm curious what kind of mileage you guys are getting and with what typical donations. I'm pretty up front about 300 ppm and so far getting decent interest from cute curvy latinas around 25-35 yo. A decent amount of girls still want 500 but I don't feel the need to entertain that unless they are a true bombshell. I've stopped bothering with the bombshell dancer level girls because they seem to all demand way too much. I'd rather escort if it's going to take 500 plus addition date fees.

Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould [URL]https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US[/URL] and [URL]https://www.dayuse.com/[/URL] that has some availability around Ontario airport area.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info about DayBreak. I have used the other one, and hotelsbyday, before, but it is always tough to get a place in the right city at the right price. I have rigorous opsec, so I have the girl book the room and then reimburse in addition.

I have been giving 300 or 400.

[QUOTE=ClimbingUp;6750894]Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. There seems to be lots of potential in the area that I'm targeting. Pretty much if you drew a triangle from San Bernadino to Riverside to Claremont. One successful connection so far with a kinky low 30's single mom. Casual meet and greet first and then a couple 300 ppm trysts. I do covered by choice but the experience is still a fun change up from the usual mechanical AMP or escort experience.

I'm curious what kind of mileage you guys are getting and with what typical donations. I'm pretty up front about 300 ppm and so far getting decent interest from cute curvy latinas around 25-35 yo. A decent amount of girls still want 500 but I don't feel the need to entertain that unless they are a true bombshell. I've stopped bothering with the bombshell dancer level girls because they seem to all demand way too much. I'd rather escort if it's going to take 500 plus addition date fees.

Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould [URL]https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US[/URL] and [URL]https://www.dayuse.com/[/URL] that has some availability around ontario airport area.[/QUOTE]I do 300-400, but it seems 70% of the girls I've been chat wants 500+.

[QUOTE=Shoot47;6751812]I do 300-400, but it seems 70% of the girls I've been chat wants 500+.[/QUOTE]If you negotiate $ online, before meeting, that is what you should expect. You have to M&G them, never talk $ before that. Have a little gift (a single rose, $5 at Albertsons) for the M&G, make her swoon, make her think you don't think she's a hooker.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6751838]If you negotiate $ online, before meeting, that is what you should expect. You have to M&G them, never talk $ before that. Have a little gift (a single rose, $5 at Albertsons) for the M&G, make her swoon, make her think you don't think she's a hooker.[/QUOTE]I posted this on the LA forum. But I recently resigned up with SA. I've had 2 very successful arrangements. One ended up living with me for a year until she decided to move for school. I've sent out 99 messages and not a single message back. WTH. What's your approach? Do I just send out a message with a number or what? I've tried to hit 8 D in the beginning but stopped to messaging 3's and 4's just to get message back. But still nada. Help a brother out.

[QUOTE=ClimbingUp;6750894]Oh yeah, any tips for hosting options? I fould [URL]https://www.daybreakhotels.com/US/en-US[/URL] and [URL]https://www.dayuse.com/[/URL] that has some availability around ontario airport area.[/QUOTE]Plenty of hourly motels in the IE. I have used about 10 or 12 in the last decade of mongering. As far west as Upland and as far east as Palm Springs. However, I only used them in a pinch for escorts who can only do outcall. For my SB's I always use chain hotels. I have hundreds of thousands of Rewards and VIP freq flyer points that I can literally stay for an entire month at any Hilton or Marriott property and the entire stay will be comped. Since taking a SB to the FC involves a lot of planning, I can use my points to get a room. But as you know, check in is after 4 pm. So if I am banging an Hx girl or a PD chick and she can only do outcall at 11 am, then these hourly motels come in handy.

I sugar in the PNW and also in Henderson during my business trips. Since I am already staying at a Marriott, I already have a private FC room for my POTs and M&G girls.

Begins with one baby step forward.

[QUOTE=ClimbingUp;6750894]Thanks for starting the thread Ace.

I'm about one month into SA and it's been worth it so far. [/QUOTE]You got a long way to go LOL. I started using Hx pretty heavy in 2011, seekingarrangement in 2016, and privatedelights in 2018.

Hundreds and hundreds of escorts, hoes, and sugar babies notched in my nasty bedpost ha ha ha!

In the Air Force you need 5 confirmed kills to be labeled an "Ace". What does this make me? I am the fucking Red Baron of commercial pussy!

[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;6754706]Since taking a SB to the FC involves a lot of planning, I can use my points to get a room. But as you know, check in is after 4 pm. So if I am banging an Hx girl or a PD chick and she can only do outcall at 11 am, then these hourly motels come in handy.[/QUOTE]A couple of things that might be useful to you Ace (and others, obviously).

- First off is that, like you, I've got tons of nights worth of points with Hilton, Marriott, and Wyndham. As a byproduct, I've also got status in each of these programs that provides early check-in and / or late check-out. Both can be hugely useful for a daytime tryst.

- When availability for the above isn't working, I use [URL]dayuse.com[/URL] and [URL]hotelsbyday.com[/URL] Both have their own frequency programs (although often hotels will also award regular points for a stay, even though they're not actually supposed to). They're generally about $ and for a clean, modern room, I think that's a fair value vs the hourly no-tell spots.

In any event, I kinda get off on leaving a day-use room with the sheets on the floor and a giant wet spot on the bed. LOL.

All the seeking girls chatted this week are all looking for 600+ , some are asking high amount for M&G, at the same time they are just average looking girls. Am I behind the times too much or what?

Just last year I could still meet good looking young girls with nice body for $300-400?

[QUOTE=Shoot47;6834295]All the seeking girls chatted this week are all looking for 600+ , some are asking high amount for M&G, at the same time they are just average looking girls. Am I behind the times too much or what?

Just last year I could still meet good looking young girls with nice body for $300-400?[/QUOTE]That's crazy. Prices are only going up like this because people are willing to pay it. Guys should say no these prices. I stick to AMPs anyways as I like to stay anonymous. Manny.

[QUOTE=Shoot47;6834295]All the seeking girls chatted this week are all looking for 600+ , some are asking high amount for M&G, at the same time they are just average looking girls. Am I behind the times too much or what?

Just last year I could still meet good looking young girls with nice body for $300-400?[/QUOTE]That is excessive, but if you are trying to negotiate sugar via electronic messaging, you'll get their top price. I only ever talk $ at the M&G, and I never agree to $ in advance for that. However, if the M&G goes well, I do give a gift card, like from Victoria or Sephora. If a girl won't agree to my scenario, she is too much a pro for my taste. Treat her nice and as if you are trying to date her, not bang her, and it will pay dividends.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6835423]Treat her nice and as if you are trying to date her, not bang her, and it will pay dividends.[/QUOTE]This is the way.

I only go for SBs that I WOULD actually date (if 50+ yo me were to suddenly be attractive to 20-30 something women). If I just want to get laid right now. I go to HX, etc. If I'm going the sugar route, I slow roll. M&G with no PPM, then if we hit it off, an actual date with PPM but no sex (at least that's usually my plan). Then, if that goes well, sex on 3rd meetup.

I've been seeing a decently attractive 28 yo girl from SA now for about a month and we've seen each other four times. Once was M&G, which ended with a some first date style kissing / groping. Then second date had more of the same. Third date was a 3 hour fuck fest and fourth date, she spent the night. Each of those was $200. So, for $600, I've had two sex dates, totaling about 9 waking hours which, even with hotel and meals, translates to about $100/ hour. I consider that exceptional value for money, especially for BBFS-CIP with anal.

If you only go for 8-10's, then I'd agree, SA isn't the place anymore. Honestly, if that's your goal, the sweet spot now is porn star escorts. At least you know what you're getting for your $1500.

[QUOTE=ColoHobbyist;6836475]This is the way.

I only go for SBs that I WOULD actually date (if 50+ yo me were to suddenly be attractive to 20-30 something women). If I just want to get laid right now. I go to HX, etc. If I'm going the sugar route, I slow roll. M&G with no PPM, then if we hit it off, an actual date with PPM but no sex (at least that's usually my plan). Then, if that goes well, sex on 3rd meetup.

I've been seeing a decently attractive 28 yo girl from SA now for about a month and we've seen each other four times. Once was M&G, which ended with a some first date style kissing / groping. Then second date had more of the same. Third date was a 3 hour fuck fest and fourth date, she spent the night. Each of those was $200. So, for $600, I've had two sex dates, totaling about 9 waking hours which, even with hotel and meals, translates to about $100/ hour. I consider that exceptional value for money, especially for BBFS-CIP with anal.

If you only go for 8-10's, then I'd agree, SA isn't the place anymore. Honestly, if that's your goal, the sweet spot now is porn star escorts. At least you know what you're getting for your $1500.[/QUOTE]I have had two dates w / SBs lately, one traveling and one in town. Both were 30's and definitely 8's or greater. And, yeah, I'm old. My own goal is to nail as much high quality pussy as I can, emphasis on the quality. The road baby I gave 600. The local one 450 for the first date, w / the promise of 1200/ mo for weekly meetings. But of course I also had to cover the hotel for this one. So about the same.