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[QUOTE=Jay23;5772545]I don't get it, they don't want to make money, or do they get some regulars who come and drop 1 K every night.[/QUOTE]Depending on what you're offering, they might not be making any money. If it is going to cost them $80 in house fees and you're offering $100, it just isn't worth their time.
[QUOTE=CakeComa;5769227]Her stage name is Madison.[/QUOTE]She also caught my eye on Instagram. If anyone has any info / past experience with her, please send me a pm through my inbox or a reply on here is fine too.
Thank you in advance!
[QUOTE=NorinRad;5771465]Does anyone have Contact info for Sam Samantha at Bogarts?. Was hoping to make a trip up tomorrow Friday, but was hoping to confirm she might be there?. Feel free to PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]No contact info, but odds are she will be there. Only time I visited Bogarts and Samantha wasn't there, she was at H8 that night.
[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;5773304]Depending on what you're offering, they might not be making any money. If it is going to cost them $80 in house fees and you're offering $100, it just isn't worth their time.[/QUOTE]Some of them would rather go to the VIP once a night and make $400 that day than go back 6 times for $1000.
[QUOTE=DonnyBrasco;5769904]This has never worked. They either say yes to everything to get you to come in or they say "we don't give that information".[/QUOTE]Don't ask whether so and so is working. Ask who is working tonight. Keeps them from just saying yes.
[QUOTE=Beer30;5774016]Don't ask whether so and so is working. Ask who is working tonight. Keeps them from just saying yes.[/QUOTE]Unless they know you, they are unlikely to tell you who is working. Look at it from their point of view (which I understand is hard for the plurality of posters in this forum); imagine the time it would take to read off who the dancers are. Additionally when you call a strip club, not everyone there knows which dancers are working. The ones who know the most are bouncers for VIP and DJs, and they're kinda busy, and they work for tips.
More importantly the clubs realize that there are more than a few stalker-types among their customers, and believe it or not, the safety of their dancers is more important than some money from an anxious customer. Though this is anecdotal, I've spoken with managers who have relayed that information.
The only club that used to tell me if a dancer was there was Bogart's, and that was because I knew the bartenders and would announce my name when calling.
The only club that I know that publishes their dancers on a given night, is Dreamgirls in LP.
LS had eleven dancers, five black and six white, with scattered customers. Overall, a disappointing roster. Besides Ivy and Violet, the rest were veteran dancers. Violet provided multiple great sessions at BT's in 2020. I didn't feel like waiting for Ivy, a petite white brunette, to become available.
H8 had eight dancers, four black and four white, with sporadic customers. Alana, Angel, Cash, Coco, Dream, Kay, Secret, and Vixen were the names. Just an okay-looking lineup.
Cash is mid-20's, black, dark hair, natural C or D-cup tits, nice backside, medium build, and has tats. Her uncovered head game wasn't notable, although the main event was good / inspired. I likely wouldn't repeat. If you dig younger black talent, then I'd recommend Shy or Yara at BT's day shift over Cash.
Total damage at Hanks was 145 for cover charge, a beer, VIP fee, and dances. Attached are labeled pictures of Shy, Violet, and Yara for reference. I don't have a pic of Cash.
[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;5773304]Depending on what you're offering, they might not be making any money. If it is going to cost them $80 in house fees and you're offering $100, it just isn't worth their time.[/QUOTE]Exactly for example the tip out at BTS is $140 day shift, LS is $185 day shift, and $200+ for FC plus FC has all of these outrageous fees they charge the dancers per shift. If you are paying less than these rates you're likely #2 or beyond for the day or she's desperately trying to make tip out before shift change.
[QUOTE=Tobey23;5774602]Exactly for example the tip out at BTS is $140 day shift, LS is $185 day shift, and $200+ for FC plus FC has all of these outrageous fees they charge the dancers per shift. If you are paying less than these rates you're likely #2 or beyond for the day or she's desperately trying to make tip out before shift change.[/QUOTE]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5775226]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.[/QUOTE]That's an outrageous tip out for sure especially for day shift. Clubs must have good lawyers as that wouldn't be legal to charge that much tip out in many states. I realize most clubs in Michigan have a 1099 "Independent Contractor" arrangement with dancers, but still seems excessive to have to pay a guaranteed amount regardless of number of customers just seems to invite more OTC opportunities and dancer quality decline at all the clubs that charge that much so called "tip out". What happens if they don't pay? Rotate to other clubs or get those "atta boy" kneepads out??
[QUOTE=Jay23;5775226]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.[/QUOTE]That's an outrageous tip out for sure especially for day shift. Clubs must have good lawyers as that wouldn't be legal to charge that much tip out in many states. I realize most clubs in Michigan have a 1099 "Independent Contractor" arrangement with dancers, but still seems excessive to have to pay a guaranteed amount regardless of number of customers just seems to invite more OTC opportunities and dancer quality decline at all the clubs that charge that much so called "tip out". What happens if they don't pay? Rotate to other clubs or get those "atta boy" kneepads out??
Does anyone know what days Violet usually works?
Thinking of heading up from Toledo after work to try and catch her.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5775226]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.[/QUOTE]The clubs outside of Detroit know they can charge those kind of prices now that private booths are a thing of the past in the city.
[QUOTE=Tobey23;5774602]Exactly for example the tip out at BTS is $140 day shift, LS is $185 day shift, and $200+ for FC plus FC has all of these outrageous fees they charge the dancers per shift. If you are paying less than these rates you're likely #2 or beyond for the day or she's desperately trying to make tip out before shift change.[/QUOTE]Boys,
Just to be clear the tip outs are not fixed. So if a girl tells you her tip out, that depends on when she arrives.
The tip outs are lowest for dancers who arrive at the start of a shift 12:00 for day shift and 7:00 for night shift. They escalate every hour, figure on adding at least $20 per hour after the start of shift.
Therefore a girl who arrive on Night shift between 9:00 and 10:00 pays 1 and 1/2 time what a girl who arrived at 7:00 pays. And a girl who arrives after midnight pays double what a girl who arrived at 7:00 pays.
There is a vicious cycle. Girls don't want to come to the clubs at the start of the shift because there are fewer customers, and then since there are fewer girls that reinforces fewer customers. Ideally a girl who comes at the start of the shift pays a lower tip out, can do more stage dances and VIP. If she makes her money she may even pay a penalty to leave before the end of the shift.
MM.
Found this [URL]https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forum.php[/URL] , a forum for strippers. Interesting reads.