Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Passenger;5692169]...I could probably write a history book of the evolution of strip clubs in Detroit from the 80's to present.

There is a long road from girls dancing on tables, to tableside, to lapdance at tables, to lapdances in designated VIP room, to sex in communal VIPs, to private booths of today. Of course there is the regression in Detroit proper from booths to open VIP areas.[/QUOTE]Good list of the long road!

Worth mentioning that the practice of employing dancers as "private contractors" and charging them to dance in the club begain in Detroit. In fact, a few legal actions of the practice made it to the NLRB and is discussed in labor law scolar efforts.

So I came up for a visit to see what was available, compared to where I'm from in OH, the diversity and sheer number of girls is always a good thing, this time however I was dare say disappointed in what was available.

Day shift.

Silver Criket. About 8 girls working all black / latino / biracial up my alley but I had just arrived in town for a beer, in hindsight should've stayed.

BT's. Dead as fuck, 5 girls were working, all look bored as hell and none I would skeet inside of.

Night Shift.

Henry VIII- Onto the more interesting part, in H8 there were about 6 girls working, 1st I saw a Lacey, blonde, older, bolt-ons, I ask how much for FS, she says 300, I counter with 150, she said she could do a CBJ for $100, no thanks. Next is a red head from texas with BD and a great ass for a white girl. She says she doesn't do FS. 3rd we have Riley, young, tatted up, brunette / black hair "spinner" as people like to describe. She quotes me 120 for a BJ with no condom but she doesn't have sex, I just say fuck it, BJ was a 7/10 outside of the fact I couldn't nut in her mouth.

After dinner closed out my night at Bogarts, I did not know they were having a holiday party and it was wall to wall (need to get a covid test too). I see Harmony, mid to late 20's, fat ol ass for a white girl (Russian) and tatted up. In the VIP I ask for FS, she quotes me 200 and doesn't budge, I ask for bareback on the BJ, FS and if she lets fingers inside of her, she goes on a slight rant saying she is the cleanest girl in there, after 2 songs I just give her 40, I left an hour later.

All in All I think with Christmas this week the girls are feeling the pressure for more money for the holiday, at least this is what I think. Are women really averaging 200 at bars, even HVIII and Bogarts?

I think silver cricket is the best bang for your buck, middle ground women with decent atmosphere and pricing.

Little late with the post, but was out 12/21 night.

Started at the Cricket. Probably 6 customers and 8 dancers. 1 sat at a table with what appeared to be her boyfriend. 3 sat by themselves in a booth and never interacted with any customers while I was there. Two Latina appearing dancers on stage looked enticing, but given the overall vibe that night seemed to be that nobody was interested in making any money, I finished my beer and went to Landing Strip.

More dancers as LS, also more customers. Definitely better vibe. A little Latina mix girl going by Emerald sat down with me. She was fun, and we went to VIP. The service was fantastic, BBBJ, covered FS, finished with BBBJCIM (spit). This is where she ruined it though. I went for my wallet, and she told me "You already paid me. Right at the start". Now, I had only had a couple of beers, so I was not so drink that I'd have paid her and forgot (This may or may not have happened before, LOL). Also, I came in with around $500 in my wallet, and wasn't planning on spending all of that on one session. I can only conclude that while removing my jeans, she grabbed all the cash in my wallet. Knowing how any sort of confrontation in this situation ends, I chose to just pay my tab and leave. It's really an unfortunate end to the night, I would have tipped her well anyway, the service was incredible, but it was ruined by one sketchy act. Based on that she has lost me as a repeat customer. Overall, I would say that the service was amazing, and would actually recommend taking her for a ride. Just keep your hand on your wallet.

Strippers are very bad money managers, the first week of the month is always good as that's when they are late on rent money.

Silver cricket night shift is gheto.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;5693436]

All in All I think with Christmas this week the girls are feeling the pressure for more money for the holiday, at least this is what I think. Are women really averaging 200 at bars, even HVIII and Bogarts?

I think silver cricket is the best bang for your buck, middle ground women with decent atmosphere and pricing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gerjon;5692183]Please do![/QUOTE]I will start jotting down old stories as I recall them, before the memories completely leave me. I should start a new sub-thread for Motor City strip club history and memories so it doesn't clutter up this thread.

Working title ideas:

Motor City Peelers.

Stripping in the D.

8 Mile and Beyond.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5693552]I will start jotting down old stories as I recall them, before the memories completely leave me. [b]I should start a new sub-thread for Motor City strip club history and memories so it doesn't clutter up this thread[/b].

Working title ideas:

Motor City Peelers.

Stripping in the D.

8 Mile and Beyond.[/QUOTE]Just post it here, I can't see the topic being more then 30 or 40 posts.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5693552]I will start jotting down old stories as I recall them, before the memories completely leave me. I should start a new sub-thread for Motor City strip club history and memories so it doesn't clutter up this thread.

Working title ideas:

Motor City Peelers.

Stripping in the D.

8 Mile and Beyond.[/QUOTE]Remembering the days when Leggs Lounge still had a "downstairs" and the day shift between Thanksgiving and Christmas was flush with "mercenaries" there for Christmas money. There were weekdays with something like 20 or more dancers on the day shift. Driving down prices and pissing off the regular dancers.

So all most $500 for a single session?

[QUOTE=MacStuffin;5693473]More dancers as LS, also more customers. Definitely better vibe. A little Latina mix girl going by Emerald sat down with me. She was fun, and we went to VIP. The service was fantastic, BBBJ, covered FS, finished with BBBJCIM (spit). This is where she ruined it though. I went for my wallet, and she told me "You already paid me. Right at the start". Now, I had only had a couple of beers, so I was not so drink that I'd have paid her and forgot (This may or may not have happened before, LOL). Also, I came in with around $500 in my wallet, and wasn't planning on spending all of that on one session. I can only conclude that while removing my jeans, she grabbed all the cash in my wallet. Knowing how any sort of confrontation in this situation ends, I chose to just pay my tab and leave. It's really an unfortunate end to the night, I would have tipped her well anyway, the service was incredible, but it was ruined by one sketchy act. Based on that she has lost me as a repeat customer. Overall, I would say that the service was amazing, and would actually recommend taking her for a ride. Just keep your hand on your wallet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Devin226;5692595]I never pay these numbers at BT's. Day or night shift, I always offer anywhere from $100 (minimum) to $200 (maximum). I would say my success rate at 100 is about 30%. And at 200 its at least 75%. Most girls will take 200. But usually I offer between 140-160 and it usually works. Of course, there's always a girl or two that has "golden pussy syndrome", but I just ignore those and move on to the next. If you're paying more than $200 max at BT's, you're driving up the market costs. Most will take less if you're a good negotiator. Especially if you don't plan to be back there for a dozen songs. I'm usually fairly quick and let them know that we might only be 4-5 songs.[/QUOTE]I agree that $200 is the sweet spot for 90% of the girls. The range of prices includes the girls with GPS. You said you "never pay more than $200" then also said "I just move on to the next". Well there you go. No matter how good of a negotiator you are, you don't pay more than $200 because you don't go back with the 10%.

[QUOTE=Jay23;5693819]So all most $500 for a single session?[/QUOTE]That's what it ended up being, since that's what I had on me.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5692169]Looooongtime strip club devotee, I began in 1981.

Tipouts, house fees, stage fees, almost all the same thing. Some clubs had house fee, then separate tip-out to DJ, door, VIP attendant, etc so that club didn't pay those workers, the dancers did.

In the 80's the dancers were paid an hourly rate plus tips. The hotter the girl, the higher the wage. When Tycoons opened (late 80's) the girls didn't even have to do table or inceeasingly, lap dances to make money. It was several years before Tycoons made a VIP room that was one big room with upholstered benches ringing the walls, there was no VIP fee, and the dances were lap dances with hands at your side.

I could probably write a history book of the evolution of strip clubs in Detroit from the 80's to present.

There is a long road from girls dancing on tables, to tableside, to lapdance at tables, to lapdances in designated VIP room, to sex in communal VIPs, to private booths of today. Of course there is the regression in Detroit proper from booths to open VIP areas.[/QUOTE]You have been around for a long time!!

[QUOTE=JPayne213;5693828]I agree that $200 is the sweet spot for 90% of the girls. The range of prices includes the girls with GPS. You said you "never pay more than $200" then also said "I just move on to the next". Well there you go. No matter how good of a negotiator you are, you don't pay more than $200 because you don't go back with the 10%.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I just ignore the 10% that requires more than 200. I usually offer 140-160 as a starting bid, but go up to 200 maximum if I find her attractive. I don't go with GPS girls.

[QUOTE=JPayne213;5693828]I agree that $200 is the sweet spot for 90% of the girls. The range of prices includes the girls with GPS. You said you "never pay more than $200" then also said "I just move on to the next". Well there you go. No matter how good of a negotiator you are, you don't pay more than $200 because you don't go back with the 10%.[/QUOTE]My range is a bit higher topping off at $300 for 10's, and $250 for hot dancers, but percentage wise it's about the same. Like the original poster around 10 to 15% depending on the club refuse $200, and around 5 to 7 refuse $300. I found that those who want more really aren't worth it. Of the few times I agreed, I am 0 for 4 from the 10%.

[QUOTE=DooMama7;5693436]All in All I think with Christmas this week the girls are feeling the pressure for more money for the holiday, at least this is what I think. Are women really averaging 200 at bars, even HVIII and Bogarts?[/QUOTE]Yep at most bars $200 to $250 is the sweet spot for CFS. Bogarts and Henry's you can still get $150 to $175 for CFS, and $80 to $100 for BJ if the dancer remembers you. My problem is I am only in town every few months and few remember me.

[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5693607]Just post it here, I can't see the topic being more then 30 or 40 posts.[/QUOTE]Over the years when folks have reminisced, others have gotten perturbed that the sub-forum was being cluttered with posts that aren't about current clubs and dancers, and I can understand and respect that. So when I get around to it, it will be in a separate area.