Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Jay23;5690987]I was at Bograts last night, around 8. 30 PM. Looks like a dancer shortage, finally flagged down one (at this point I am desperate).[b] I always get a few dances to test them out[/b], we go upstairs and she says "I will give you 6 dances for $100", "and you have to pay me in advance". At this point we are in the booth, my Jr has taken over my brain activity, I hand over the cash. The dance was too mediocre, she wanted another 100 for a lap dance. At this point 2 songs in, I told her "Thanks hon" and walked out wasting a 100. I don't remember her name. 35 years of going to strip clubs and I still have a lot to learn.[/QUOTE]The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

Better luck next time.

[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5691144]The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

Better luck next time.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. And honestly, I've never had to ask "if" at Bogies LOL. It's just about the details and negotiations.

Agree 100%, as I said this is what happens when you let the little guy make choices for you.

[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5691144]The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

Better luck next time.[/QUOTE]

Since the topic came up recently and this is an active thread I will throw my 2 cents in.

From my basic understanding since I don't go back many, many years with strip clubs at one point many years ago there were no tip outs then the began maybe about the late 1990's.

I think club owners, management & other employees maybe became jealous of what some dancers could earn during the peak of peak times. Others said its to encourage dancers to do extras, but many places unlike Detroit don't have any extras at all.

I know if I were a Dancer I would not want to pay to work. I suppose good dancers at the right clubs can handle tip outs no problem, but for many dancers it can be a hindrance and cause them to quit.

[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5691144]The first thing you need to do is stop that test them out crap. How do you get a stripper to fuck for a 100 if you just gave her 50 for doing nothing? The only reason why guys do this is because they are too shy to ask her at the table if she fucks and sucks for money. She's a stripper not Mother Teresa, you won't offend her.

Better luck next time.[/QUOTE]Also, never, never ever pay money up front! She now has your dough and does not need to deliver the goods! You can show her the money and just say I will pay when were done.

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;5691832]Also, never, never ever pay money up front! She now has your dough and does not need to deliver the goods! You can show her the money and just say I will pay when were done.[/QUOTE]This is 100 percent correct, I don't go to clubs often, maybe 1 or 2 times a quarter. I used to go only to LS after testing the most of the 8 mile clubs and going monthly to legends when I worked downtown, all pre Detroit curtain rules. Then realized the bang for the buck and non pretentious vibe at Hamilton's places, so now I only go to those LOL. Hold for a bachelor party.

Anyways I let the dancer chat with me, ask if I want a few VIP dances and then point blank whisper what I'm looking for. Have them give me a price, hesitate saying I just stopped in because I drove by only have xxx usually I bring around 200 total, troll tax, a club soda and tip, cover, then rest for the dancer. The only time FS wasn't had for this price was an older 40 ish 7 or 8 MILF I've not seen her again, said no FS. Let me eat her ass during BJ and was a good time for sure.

I pay more than some and less than some but I don't want to spend over an hour inside, I live and work about an hour west otherwise I'd go more.

[QUOTE=Bmarr77;5690381]They want 300-600 at BT's these days? Wow, prices have gone up quickly![/QUOTE]Dayshift is $100-$200.

Nightshift is $200-$400.

Only one or two will holdout for $500+, bc they have regulars that pay it. The rest are trying to finesse you and will take $300 on average.

[QUOTE=RainMan5;5691559]Since the topic came up recently and this is an active thread I will throw my 2 cents in.

From my basic understanding since I don't go back many, many years with strip clubs at one point many years ago there were no tip outs then the began maybe about the late 1990's.

I think club owners, management & other employees maybe became jealous of what some dancers could earn during the peak of peak times. Others said its to encourage dancers to do extras, but many places unlike Detroit don't have any extras at all.

I know if I were a Dancer I would not want to pay to work. I suppose good dancers at the right clubs can handle tip outs no problem, but for many dancers it can be a hindrance and cause them to quit.[/QUOTE]Looooongtime strip club devotee, I began in 1981.

Tipouts, house fees, stage fees, almost all the same thing. Some clubs had house fee, then separate tip-out to DJ, door, VIP attendant, etc so that club didn't pay those workers, the dancers did.

In the 80's the dancers were paid an hourly rate plus tips. The hotter the girl, the higher the wage. When Tycoons opened (late 80's) the girls didn't even have to do table or inceeasingly, lap dances to make money. It was several years before Tycoons made a VIP room that was one big room with upholstered benches ringing the walls, there was no VIP fee, and the dances were lap dances with hands at your side.

I could probably write a history book of the evolution of strip clubs in Detroit from the 80's to present.

There is a long road from girls dancing on tables, to tableside, to lapdance at tables, to lapdances in designated VIP room, to sex in communal VIPs, to private booths of today. Of course there is the regression in Detroit proper from booths to open VIP areas.

[QUOTE=HarryDude;5691937]This is 100 percent correct, I don't go to clubs often, maybe 1 or 2 times a quarter. I used to go only to LS after testing the most of the 8 mile clubs and going monthly to legends when I worked downtown, all pre Detroit curtain rules. Then realized the bang for the buck and non pretentious vibe at Hamilton's places, so now I only go to those LOL. Hold for a bachelor party.

Anyways I let the dancer chat with me, ask if I want a few VIP dances and then point blank whisper what I'm looking for. Have them give me a price, hesitate saying I just stopped in because I drove by only have xxx usually I bring around 200 total, troll tax, a club soda and tip, cover, then rest for the dancer. The only time FS wasn't had for this price was an older 40 ish 7 or 8 MILF I've not seen her again, said no FS. Let me eat her ass during BJ and was a good time for sure.

I pay more than some and less than some but I don't want to spend over an hour inside, I live and work about an hour west otherwise I'd go more.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately for me, most every strip joint is within 30 minutes of me, and over the years my workday would often end near strip clubs, or within minutes of them. I do NOT wish to calculate the expenditure over the years.

[QUOTE=Passenger;5692169]I could probably write a history book of the evolution of strip clubs in Detroit from the 80's to present.[/QUOTE]Please do!

What makes day shift cost less, women with kids who cant work night shifts?

[QUOTE=JPayne213;5692006]Dayshift is $100-$200.

Nightshift is $200-$400.

Only one or two will holdout for $500+, bc they have regulars that pay it. The rest are trying to finesse you and will take $300 on average.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainMan5;5691559]Since the topic came up recently and this is an active thread I will throw my 2 cents in.

From my basic understanding since I don't go back many, many years with strip clubs at one point many years ago there were no tip outs then the began maybe about the late 1990's.

I think club owners, management & other employees maybe became jealous of what some dancers could earn during the peak of peak times. Others said its to encourage dancers to do extras, but many places unlike Detroit don't have any extras at all.

I know if I were a Dancer I would not want to pay to work. I suppose good dancers at the right clubs can handle tip outs no problem, but for many dancers it can be a hindrance and cause them to quit.[/QUOTE]I posed the original question on tip outs because of a situation I ran into recently in Kalamazoo. I was at a club called Angles, and met a 10/10 spinner, hot girl. It was pretty slow that day, and I went back for a couple of dances with her. I asked about extras and she said not in the club. I asked about OTC and she said if I will pay her tip out for the night she would do outcall to my hotel. She said she needed 500 to make her tip out. I paid it and she spent the better part of the night with me, multiple shots on the goal. I thought that sounded high for a tip out, but I guess in retrospect, I would have paid nearly that much with an Eros girl, and I wouldn't have got 5+ hours.

[QUOTE=JPayne213;5692006]Dayshift is $100-$200.

Nightshift is $200-$400.

Only one or two will holdout for $500+, bc they have regulars that pay it. The rest are trying to finesse you and will take $300 on average.[/QUOTE]I never pay these numbers at BT's. Day or night shift, I always offer anywhere from $100 (minimum) to $200 (maximum). I would say my success rate at 100 is about 30%. And at 200 its at least 75%. Most girls will take 200. But usually I offer between 140-160 and it usually works. Of course, there's always a girl or two that has "golden pussy syndrome", but I just ignore those and move on to the next. If you're paying more than $200 max at BT's, you're driving up the market costs. Most will take less if you're a good negotiator. Especially if you don't plan to be back there for a dozen songs. I'm usually fairly quick and let them know that we might only be 4-5 songs.

Is anyone planning on heading out to Henry's North or Bogart's tonight? I've been thinking about going, because I figure there will be a lot of dancers there, needing last minute Christmas money. Still, I'd anticipate it being quite crowded as well. If anyone sees this post and goes up there tonight, hopefully, you wouldn't mind posting an update? Specifically, I'd be interested in seeing Ashley or Sunflower at North.

What I'm really in the mood for tonight is some Greek cuisine. I know it isn't on available with Sunflower and I'm not sure about Ashley. If anyone knows of any other candidates with that menu option at either club tonight, I'd certainly being interested in knowing who is.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5692632]Is anyone planning on heading out to Henry's North or Bogart's tonight? I've been thinking about going, because I figure there will be a lot of dancers there, needing last minute Christmas money. Still, I'd anticipate it being quite crowded as well. If anyone sees this post and goes up there tonight, hopefully, you wouldn't mind posting an update? Specifically, I'd be interested in seeing Ashley or Sunflower at North.

What I'm really in the mood for tonight is some Greek cuisine. I know it isn't on available with Sunflower and I'm not sure about Ashley. If anyone knows of any other candidates with that menu option at either club tonight, I'd certainly being interested in knowing who is.[/QUOTE]Well sorry to disappoint you but Ashley's hanging out with me tonight, and we might stop at Henry's north a little later for a drink, but going too have a great night.