[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn;1184175]In real life am averse to danger but riding around after midnight going to places I'd not set foot in during the daytime to score a hooker while avoiding the Police is like a drug.[/QUOTE]I agree. We need a support group!
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[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn;1184175]In real life am averse to danger but riding around after midnight going to places I'd not set foot in during the daytime to score a hooker while avoiding the Police is like a drug.[/QUOTE]I agree. We need a support group!
[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn;1184175]In real life am averse to danger but riding around after midnight going to places I'd not set foot in during the daytime to score a hooker while avoiding the Police is like a drug.[/QUOTE]Have to agree. There is something great about this stuff. Especially when you score nice.
[QUOTE=Smyrnaguy1980;1183567]Anything in the Cheshire Bridge / Faulkner Road area?[/QUOTE]There are many trannies in this area. Be careful.
[QUOTE=Smyrnaguy1980;1183567]Anything in the Cheshire Bridge / Faulkner Road area?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen trannies in this area. But they can be anywhere, but usually up Buford Highway toward PP. CB used to almost always have 1-3 out anywhere from the Tara to the Chevron that is on the other side of Piedmont. I used to have luck during the afternoons too, but I haven't seen anything out there since last October, but I haven't be mongering there much either. Best place used to be the hotel just before you got to Piedmont (coming from La Vista) , but I understand mgmt. Chased the girls out. Still there is a dark parking lot over there that I used to find some.
I too would appreciate any intel. Times / days that are best.
I visit Atlanta often and last week scored a BSW on the gas station at piedmont and Ponce De Leon. This week, visited it again and came across a latin SW called Maria. Drove to couple of blocks for her to suggest a place and she got out to confirm the place and vanished. I am not sure but now I think back and that maybe a Trannie. How to weed them out?
No need to chase street walkers with these gas prices.
When you are Cheshire Bridge / Faulkner Road area go to little wings. It is 80 bucks but yu can fuck as much as you want for 3-4 hours. Talent varies. 1st timer are hit by membership fee of 150. Still cheaper then escorts!
[QUOTE=Smyrnaguy1980;1183567]Anything in the Cheshire Bridge / Faulkner Road area?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Aakaps; I am not sure but now I think back and that maybe a Trannie. How to weed them out? [/QUOTE]I live and work nearby. I am thru there several times a week, at all times of day. I have played there more than a few times in the past. Here's the scoop on Ponce:
For a couple of blocks east & west of the intersection of Ponce & Boulvard / Monroe, you can almost always find skanky FEMALE W & BSWs. They often stay at the Ponce Hotel, and score drugs at those apartments by the Taco Bell. If you see a nice looking lady in that area, she's most likely a sting.
Further west on Ponce, around Piedmont, you may find an occadional skanky female, but if she's halfway decent looking at all, chances are she's a tranny. The best way to spot trannies. If they're wearing typical "ho" looking clothes, they're most likely men (playing dress up is part of the thrill for them). Real chicks will be wearing ordinary jeans, Tshirts, etc.
They are pay to play? I figured places like that pretty much kept out single males that don't look like movie stars.
Are there pros inside, mixed with the couples or what?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Dudenextdoorfl; 1187334]No need to chase street walkers with these gas prices.
When you are Cheshire Bridge / Faulkner Road area go to little wings. It is 80 bucks but yu can fuck as much as you want for 3-4 hours. Talent varies. 1st timer are hit by membership fee of 150. Still cheaper then escorts! [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alabamakmg;1187582]They are pay to play? [/QUOTE]He's probably talking about their monthly afternoon gangbangs, where there's at least one "hostess" taking on all cummers, and often a few others too. The ladies that do these aren't always the hottest looking, but damn they're all very fine fucks!
One caveat. You have to be OK with performing in a room full of other guys, some of whom might be getting orally serviced while you're pounding her.
There's another group that's been hosting almost weekly daytime bangs too. Swinging Atlanta. Some of their ladies have been top-shelf. But they're always crowded as hell!
[QUOTE=Dudenextdoorfl; 1187334]No need to chase street walkers with these gas prices.
When you are Cheshire Bridge / Faulkner Road area go to little wings. It is 80 bucks but yu can fuck as much as you want for 3-4 hours. Talent varies. 1st timer are hit by membership fee of 150. Still cheaper then escorts! [/QUOTE]Ok yeah I seen that, and I was considering hitting that place up. How are single men treated there? I went to trapeze and I tell ya, unless you are throwing money around and look like a Ken doll single men have almost no chance. But yeah little wings is on my radar.
There are a couple of clubs that do this, Little wings and Studio Eris. The girls at little wings aren't the best looking but they usually have at least 2 girls ready to take on anyone. Studio Eris only has one girl guaranteed but they are pretty damn hot. As a matter of fact they have one next Thursday, a week from today with Stacy. There were some posts about her on here a month or 2 ago, she is definitely worth checking out. It is 60 for a single guy and yeah you do have to be able to do your thing with about a dozen people sitting around watching you.
The Studio Eris ones are put on by the group Swinging Atlanta;
http : / / groups dot yahoo dot com slash group slash swinging_atlanta
[QUOTE=Ren Man; 1187829]He's probably talking about their monthly afternoon gangbangs, where there's at least one "hostess" taking on all cummers, and often a few others too. The ladies that do these aren't always the hottest looking, but damn they're all very fine fucks!
One caveat. You have to be OK with performing in a room full of other guys, some of whom might be getting orally serviced while you're pounding her.
There's another group that's been hosting almost weekly daytime bangs too. Swinging Atlanta. Some of their ladies have been top-shelf. But they're always crowded as hell! [/QUOTE]
Have tried a couple of weekday late night swings in the Old National area with no sightings at all. Anyone have tips on the right time of day to check out this area?
Club Venus, little wings and swinging Atlanta.
I enjoyed their afternoon gangbangs. Prices about the same.
They are not too far from eachother!
These are all day events and it is a sure thing. You will get laid.
[QUOTE=Adamwest333; 1188124]There are a couple of clubs that do this, Little wings and Studio Eris. The girls at little wings aren't the best looking but they usually have at least 2 girls ready to take on anyone. Studio Eris only has one girl guaranteed but they are pretty damn hot. As a matter of fact they have one next Thursday, a week from today with Stacy. There were some posts about her on here a month or 2 ago, she is definitely worth checking out. It is 60 for a single guy and yeah you do have to be able to do your thing with about a dozen people sitting around watching you.
The Studio Eris ones are put on by the group Swinging Atlanta;
[url]http[/url] ://groups dot yahoo dot com slash group slash swinging_atlanta[/QUOTE]
Most of the girls on Old Nat have started to work the various clubs on the street. A quick drive through the telly parking lots could score for you around dusk 'til midnight.
[QUOTE=Columbo1492;1188270]Have tried a couple of weekday late night swings in the Old National area with no sightings at all. Anyone have tips on the right time of day to check out this area?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Columbo1492;1188270]Have tried a couple of weekday late night swings in the Old National area with no sightings at all. Anyone have tips on the right time of day to check out this area?[/QUOTE]I came up on a young big booty female at one of the gas stations across from the WH and Hotels. I think its a Chevron buts is right behind Kilroys. Caught her and a friend walking from the hotels to the gas station to get newports. This was during the day and I have seen others walking but I just so happened to be in the strore and I knew they was working. .40 for some dgp style and I was on my way. Chicked name was Risky if I remember didn't get digits. I have also came up on the mexican spot and jr crickets. Old Natl can be good hunting
[QUOTE=Dudenextdoorfl; 1188606]Club Venus, little wings and swinging Atlanta.
I enjoyed their afternoon gangbangs. Prices about the same.
They are not too far from each other!
These are all day events and it is a sure thing. You will get laid. [/QUOTE]The little wings website stated they are only open at night. Is the single male rate of $150 all you need to spend for FS?
[QUOTE=Shazbot1960;1188954]The little wings website stated they are only open at night. Is the single male rate of $150 all you need to spend for FS?[/QUOTE]Just join their Yahoo group and read the lists for awhile. You'll find out all you need to know. The Afternoon Delights are special events, promoted separately from the rest of the club events.
[QUOTE=Big Bluff;1184779]I agree. We need a support group![/QUOTE]I thought we were already one. LOL
[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn;1184175]In real life am averse to danger but riding around after midnight going to places I'd not set foot in during the daytime to score a hooker while avoiding the Police is like a drug.[/QUOTE]Agreed! I started in the hobby 3 years ago when I had just turned 18. Inspite of getting all the action I needed, I found the need to chase this adventure. Started off at Orange Blossom Trail in Orlando. Got mugged one night and didn't partake but about over a month, but sooner than you know it, I was back! Now here in ATL, although the variety isn't as much as OBT, the adventure is still alive! .
Ok I don't have many adventures to report on here lately so forgive the lameness of this one but I thought it was funny. So I was working the Lakewood area and I spotted a chic down from the infamous gas station. She was one of those "looked good from 150 yards but now that she's standing next to my window I'm not sure what the hell I was thinking" types! LOL!
She was WSW a lot on the chunky side but still passable in the face. It was a slow day so I said hop in. My first warning sign was her voice. Ghetto as hell. I'm black by the way so don't start that shit but I hate when a WSW tries to talk like she is more black than me. I don't know black women who talk like this so where the hell do you get off. Ok on with the story.
So she invites me to her spot. I can only imagine so I pass and say I'm only looking for BBBJ. She starts with. 25. I know the area I know the game but I wasn't having it. I told her all I had was. 10 and that was my final offer.
All of a sudden Becky, Sue, Jane and Jennifer came busting out all at the same time from the ghetto mess I was hearing before. The only voice I could compare it to would be Alicia Silverstone in Clueless! LOL!"Do I look like a crackhead? Do I look like a freaking crackhead oh my gosh!" She is screaming at the top of her lungs and the contrast in the voice made me stop in the middle of the street with my mouth wide open. At this point she is screaming and it's the middle of the day so I'm just making my way back to where I got her and she is going on and on."The guy behind you might have paid me. 50 or something and you only got. 10 freaking dollars." "I freaking hate you and your damn. 10" LOL!
By the way trust me if you see this girl and pay anything over. 10 you are robbing yourself.
Went to the Skyway last Wed. After hanging out at Fannies until closing. Tried to get takeout at Fannies, girl agreed went in the back and never came back (I didn't give her any money. So no biggie). At Skyway checked in and some guy called "Fat" (who was tall and skinny) was asking if I needed anything. I said sure. Came back with a decent looking BSW and off to the room we went. She was good and performed well. I forget her name. Got done with her. Walked the halls and found another BSW who was pretty hot (I was suprised). Got her back to the room and it went down hill from there. She just sat there texting on her phone and did nothing. Told her to get out. She gave me a hard time, but I managed to get her out. Damage for the first one was 60 and I paid nothing for the other one. At that point it was time for me to get back to my other hotel and get ready to a days worth of meetings I had planned. So I left. All in all I was surprised on how easy it was to pick up a girl here. They were all over the place. Seemed pretty safe as well. But busy and loud all night long. I would not expect to get much sleep here. Was talking to the desk guy when I left and he was telling me that business was painfully slow and out of the 5 floors (I think that is what he said) only one floor was rented and the others for completely empty and it was like this every night. So not sure how long they are going to stay in business. He must be getting kick backs for the "extra" activities that go there.
This is pretty accurate. I do not recommend ponce for mongering.
[QUOTE=Ren Man; 1187568]I live and work nearby. I am thru there several times a week, at all times of day. I have played there more than a few times in the past. Here's the scoop on Ponce:
For a couple of blocks east & west of the intersection of Ponce & Boulvard / Monroe, you can almost always find skanky FEMALE W & BSWs. They often stay at the Ponce Hotel, and score drugs at those apartments by the Taco Bell. If you see a nice looking lady in that area, she's most likely a sting.
Further west on Ponce, around Piedmont, you may find an occadional skanky female, but if she's halfway decent looking at all, chances are she's a tranny. The best way to spot trannies. If they're wearing typical "ho" looking clothes, they're most likely men (playing dress up is part of the thrill for them). Real chicks will be wearing ordinary jeans, Tshirts, etc.[/QUOTE]
Decided to indulge in the hobby at a time I was certain to not find anything interesting at all. After a good 3-4 rounds around FIB, I decided to stop by and say howdy to a friend who owns a gas station there. Didn't realize it was 3:30 am on a Sunday night and that the store would probably be closed. However, there was a girl in an older tan Toyota Camry that was parked outside the gas station. We waited there for a bit, then got the girl's attention and asked her a few random questions. As there were no cops in sight at all that night, we fancied our luck and asked her what she was doing in the parking lot this late. She said she has to get to a shoot early in the morning so she was just doing her makeup. We asked her if she was an actress and her reply was "of a sort". Upon insisting on knowing what kind of shoot it was and if we could come, she said something about VH1.
After being a little more comfortable we asked her if she would help us out for some money. She asked how much money we were talking, I said what will take your pants off, her reply was,"I am wearing a skirt, and $500." Being a smartass my friend replied,"Aren't skirts easier to take off though?" After a few snide comments back and forth she agreed to FS back to our place for $200 each. Although I would give her a 7 in the face. 8 in the body, it wasn't worth@$200. Not quite sure if someone encountered this before. She certainly wasn't a streetWALKER. But it was FIB, therefore I posted it here.
Other than this, considering the time we were out, no walkers, no coppers. A couple of pimps at TI that kept waving, an older and extremely wrinkly WSW dressed quite sexy but still quite ugly :P We then proceeded to the North Druid Hills area, Shallowford Road and Ponce. There was someone at the Chevron walking. Looked like a trannie with a blonde wig. We drove as far as the Kroger, and there was a crack addict lookin' WSW, extremely skinny, that kept waving.
It is safe to say that my Sunday night drive-thru didn't yield anything exciting, but it was quite interesting for some future endeavors.
Out mongering on Friday afternoon. Ran into the HOT late teen early 20 year old WSW that I've seen recently. She usually walks on Shallowford, Plaster, and Dresden. She has a dynamite body, usually doesn't have a place to go but on Friday she did. However I missed out on the opportunity because I had to hit the ATM and by the time I got back uncle LEO from Dekalb and Chamblee was all over the place. I routinely see her in the area and she is HOT. Usually she doesn't have a place and I'm too old to do anything in the car anymore. She usually is out from about 3pm. 5pm during the week. I have seen her later in the evening but usually she is not working. I think she lives with her mom in one of the extended stay hotels. She has a HOT body and is sometimes walking with a BF who is also hot.
A few weeks ago I was out cruising post midnight on a Friday night and saw two HOT latino chicks working in between the Mexican Bar and the Pool hall right down from the the strip club. It was obvious what they were doing, but being short of roses I decided not to partake. I heard a report of guys dressing up as girls in the area, but these were no guys. I stopped and talked to them briefly and it was obvious they were the real thing and looking for fun. Has anyone else had any experiences on Buford Hwy near North Druid Hills? Thanks!
Started this weekend, and will continue for a while. Be carefull and watch your backs.
Wet Dreams, PW
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The red four-door sedan pulled slowly into a tiny strip-mall parking lot on Ponce de Leon and idled as a man in a plaid shirt approached the window.
'I'm trying to get into a little somethin. You look like someone I usually deal with, ' the man in the plaid shirt said to the male driver.
He opened the door on the passenger side and got in, and the red car pulled onto Ponce. The driver barely went a block before the man in the plaid shirt offered sex for money. $20. That was all he needed to say to have two Atlanta police patrol cars to rush up and a team of officers surround the car and arrest him.
'You got me man, you got me, ' he repeated three times to the driver as the blue lights flashed behind him and officers swarmed the car.
The arrest, made late on a Thursday night was part of 'Operation Summer Heat. '
For the next three days, officers with the APD's vice unit; the Atlanta Proactive Enforcement & Interdiction (APEX) squad; and cops who are assigned to the Midtown area arrested prostitutes and johns walking the streets.
The operation, which started May 5, netted a total of 69 arrests, including 50 suspected male prostitutes. 11 female suspected prostitutes and eight suspected johns, according to information the APD released Monday afternoon. Each of those people arrested may face additional charges.
Police also made five arrests for selling marijuana and five for selling cocaine. Officers impounded seven cars and seized a total of $1, 000 in cash.
Most of the arrests were made in and around Peachtree and Cypress streets and Ponce de Leon, the APD said. The operation is the first of others that will be done throughout the city.
'We've received many complaints about hustling and prostitution in these corridors, ' Chief George Turner said. 'We hope these arrests send a signal to the community that the APD is listening, and to lawbreakers that we are not going to tolerate this conduct. '
The idea was to send a message to the prostitutes that the police are out there. The residual impact may be greater.
'The element we see, they also break into cars, homes and have an extensive criminal history, ' he said.
'A lot of people think it's a victimless crime, ' Lt. Scott Kreher said. 'But they commit other crimes. '
Kreher said he started organizing the 40-officer team about a month ago to coincide with warm weather – that's when prostitution picks up and the APD's phones start ringing with complaints from residents and businesses.
Kreher emphasized how dangerous undercover work is for police officers. But prostitutes and johns are likely going to run – or at least move away from an area – if they see a marked police car driving down the street.
'It's very difficult for a uniform officer to control this type of crime because they are in a patrol car, ' said Kreher, the commander of the vice unit.
Hope none of you SW trollers are in the pokey!
[QUOTE]Nearly 70 prostitutes, johns stung in APD operation.
The arrest, made late on a Thursday night was part of 'Operation Summer Heat. '
For the next three days, officers with the APD's vice unit; the Atlanta Proactive Enforcement & Interdiction (APEX) squad; and cops who are assigned to the Midtown area arrested prostitutes and johns walking the streets.
The operation, which started May 5, netted a total of 69 arrests, including 50 suspected male prostitutes. 11 female suspected prostitutes and eight suspected johns, according to information the APD released Monday afternoon. Each of those people arrested may face additional charges.
[url]http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/nearly-70-prostitutes-johns-947855.html?cxtype=rss_news_128746[/url] [/QUOTE]
After hearing about all the arrests I decided to be a foolish daredevil and actually go drive around FIB. Well the entire boulevard was dead at 9:30pm. Uncle Leo was at the gas stations, in the parking lots of Skyway, Super8 / Knights Inn, Days Inn (on the other side of I-20). Whilst driving, one of you mongers almost rear ended me and I think the loud screeching noise attracted quite a good bit of attention. So to avoid any more attention after driving around for a bit, I decided to stop and get dinner at Waffle House. When I got out around 10, the scenario had changed completely. Uncle Leo was gone, SWs were back out in the parking lot at the Skyway and TI, however there was this one SW trying to flag down cars from the Citgo. I noticed a couple of unmarked Challengers in the McDonalds right at the moment when I was going to turn for her, but decided to pass. Drove up to Ponce, it was dead, as were Shallowford / Buford. I finally ended up getting my action at an AMP. More on that under that topic.
Just finished a late night / early morning run. Wasn't planning on partaking but was out and about but not tired yet. Started out on the Shallowford / Dresden area. Did one loop, seeing nothing, but spotted an older WSW on Shallowford just before the interstate. Partaking was not planned, but figuring she was bargain priced made the decision to stop ahead and see if she caught up. She did, and after a short drive / Leo check agreed on. 25 for half and half at "her" place. After a quick security sweep we got down to business. She was well past her prime, but put good effort into her work and left happy with no drama (always a plus). She said her name was Cici and she frequented Shallowford near the interstate but did not have a phone.
The Bluffs was next. Top side was quiet. JEL was HEAVY with LE parked on the side streets waiting for who knows what. Once past there took a right on Simpson / Boone and also checked out JEL south of the Bluffs. Both areas had a decent number of BSW out and about. Nothing too impressive, but they were younger and did not look too street worn.
Last stop was FIB. No signs of leo, but by this time it was around 2am. Skyway, KI and TI all had girls out for business. Saw one decent looking spinner WSW walking just past the clubs that I would have picked up if I hadn't already taken care of business a little earlier.
All in all, not a bad run for so late on a weekday and the weather being so unseasonably cool.
Gents,
I will be in your fair city next week and I am staying in area of the Galleria in Smyrna. How close am I to the best street action. Any advise would be great.
[QUOTE=Basket; 1196587]Gents,
I will be in your fair city next week and I am staying in area of the Galleria in Smyrna. How close am I to the best street action. Any advise would be great. [/QUOTE]Closet street action is Fulton Industrial Blvd and I-20.
I was in town for the week, and took a drive out wendesday night and ran into a nice spanish girl by the motel. She didn't speak a bit of english, but new what to do once she was in the car. BBBJCIM for a Jackson, and she was thrilled. Probably the hardest working person I've been with, she was determined!
Thursday night went back and ran into a white girl on shallowford by the gas station, maybe 30-40 and a 6 or so depending on the light, real nice good attitude, big titties, shaved down below, and again BBBJCIM for a Jackson.
All in all it was a very good week in town. Some LE around buford and on shallowford, but it wasnt that bad.
Good, this animal got what he deserved!
[QUOTE]Pimp gets 12 years after caging woman.
By Steve Visser
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
5:50 pm Thursday, May 19, 2011.
Pimp David Lee Walker was sentenced to 12 years in prison Thursday for human trafficking in a case where he ordered a prostitute beaten and then forced the wounded woman to sleep in a dog's travel cage.
The then- 21-year-old had escaped from Walker's stable of prostitutes and he and two confederates had tracked her down to Midtown in April of 2010, said Fulton County prosecutor Shondeana Morris.
When she tried to flee again, Walker warned her to stop, Morris said."He said, 'Running is only going to make it worse for you. ' "
Walker took her back to his motel on Fulton Industrial Boulevard where he lived with his prostitutes and henchmen and ordered other streetwalkers to beat their recalcitrant co-worker.
Walker then locked her in the dog kennel overnight.
The crime probably would have passed unnoticed, but Fulton County police discovered the victim when searching all the motel rooms in an unrelated case, Morris said.
It was the latest sexual trafficking case brought by District Attorney Paul Howard, who promised to crack down on human trafficking and child prostitution nearly a decade ago. His has brought 43 cases since 2005, including one that went to trial in February that resulted in a life sentence for pimp Shun Pierre Pinkston. 43, for rape, child molestation and pimping in a case involving a 15-year-old girl.
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[QUOTE=ShortFoot;1197890]Good, this animal got what he deserved![/QUOTE]Throw away the key for these fuckers. And give 'them a tomato plant and tell them to keep it alive for food so we don't have to foot the bill for their meals.
Two WSWs standing at the Chevron with a truck keeping a close watch from the Citgo across the street. Also a cop car parked outside Skyway Inn and the Super 8.
Undercover sting at TI. On the second floor on the front, two men eyeing all the cars that come in and talking into their sleeves. Working with them is one WSW with dyed blonde hair. Also a man in a red t-shirt walking between the parking lot, the citgo and the chevron, also talking into his sleeve.
Negligible activity around 1:30 am. After one of the cops left the Super 8, quite a few BSWs started walking out into their parking lot.
Hey I'm just move back to atlanta but what is the 5 dollar ho-tel on FIB. Who do guys have to pay five too. Or is it just a hourly rate hotel?
Thanks for the report about the sting. I will be intown next week and I'll be sure to stay away from F. I. B. I visit this track every time that I am in Atlanta and very rearly see white streetwalkers. It would make more sense for A. P. D. to use black streewalkers becuase in my limited experience most of the streetwakers in this area are black. In this area I think that white streetwakers look very out of place and most mongers will smell a sting a mile away. If I am not correct about this please forgive me, again I have very little experience on the F. I. B. Track.
Thanks,
Gents
[QUOTE=Bob3163;1198408]Hey I'm just move back to atlanta but what is the 5 dollar ho-tel on FIB. Who do guys have to pay five too. Or is it just a hourly rate hotel?[/QUOTE]Just go to sky motel on top of the hill. Pick your girl and she will tell you where to pay $5.
[QUOTE=Drive By; 1197597]I was in town for the week, and took a drive out wendesday night and ran into a nice spanish girl by the motel. She didn't speak a bit of english, but new what to do once she was in the car. BBBJCIM for a Jackson, and she was thrilled. Probably the hardest working person I've been with, she was determined!
Thursday night went back and ran into a white girl on shallowford by the gas station, maybe 30-40 and a 6 or so depending on the light, real nice good attitude, big titties, shaved down below, and again BBBJCIM for a Jackson.
All in all it was a very good week in town. Some LE around buford and on shallowford, but it wasnt that bad.[/QUOTE]I've lived in this area all my life and never seen any SW's.