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Prices
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1259918]I'm up for helping fellow mongers with info and such when I can -- with "such" potentially meaning many things -- but I think it's going to far to criticize others for what they choose to pay. We all come to the hobby from different situations, whether it's finances, confidence, and all other sorts of things that come into play when negotiating and ultimately paying. I don't think many of use are thinking, when decision-time comes in a haggling situation, "how will this affect my fellow mongers." In the end, you have to deal with yourself and the girl. I'm not saying it's not good to hold prices down if you can, but no point in berating fellow mongerers for their decisions.[/QUOTE]Compare the number of mongers who are on here in the Detroit forum, with number of fellow mongers out there and that why it will be hard to control prices. Strip Clubs and escort services running ads promising women they will make $1500 a week. Bottom line knowledge is power, newbies unless they come here first are going to get overcharged in the strip club or on BP.
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[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1259918]I'm up for helping fellow mongers with info and such when I can -- with "such" potentially meaning many things -- but I think it's going to far to criticize others for what they choose to pay. We all come to the hobby from different situations, whether it's finances, confidence, and all other sorts of things that come into play when negotiating and ultimately paying. I don't think many of use are thinking, when decision-time comes in a haggling situation, "how will this affect my fellow mongers." In the end, you have to deal with yourself and the girl. I'm not saying it's not good to hold prices down if you can, but no point in berating fellow mongerers for their decisions.[/QUOTE]I don't berate others for what they pay. I might mention to someone that they paid a lot more for a provider than the provider has been documented to be willing to take. But if a girl is hot enough and sharp enough to get a little extra on a given day, that's between the provider and customer. Neither of them owes me anything.
That's why I don't go to clubs or to higher-priced AMPs (M1). I know they're significantly more expensive than SWs and I don't like spending that kind of $$ unless it's absolutely terrific and a dead certain sure thing.
But I appreciate that the clubs and AMPs have to pay rent, the utilities, all the overhead and the workers. Just like SWs have to pay for a place to live, for food and yeah even for their medicine. The $$ we pay keeps them showing up at work. Drive the prices down too far and they close up shop. Would I be happy if prices were lower? Yeah, but ultimately, I decide what I am willing to pay. You guys don't owe me a thing.
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BT's
[QUOTE=Plumber2;1261547]I stopped in today for lunch. Nothing over a 5 in my opinion. I've read good things about the place so I had to check it out. I was immediately approached by two girls. One was dancing for the first time that day. Pretty black girl, very nice and polite. The other was a skinny dark haired white girl who seemed pretty stoned on something. She didn't even gtfo when my lunch came. She even asked if she could have some of my fries. She also offered to share some coke with me, and not the kind you drink. She wanted to go in the back and play but I happily declined. She was painful to talk to.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I plan to check it out this weekend or early next week. Any one with names to look for yet?
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Negotiate!
[QUOTE=Bigboi47;1261254]Compare the number of mongers who are on here in the Detroit forum, with number of fellow mongers out there and that why it will be hard to control prices. Strip Clubs and escort services running ads promising women they will make $1500 a week. Bottom line knowledge is power, newbies unless they come here first are going to get overcharged in the strip club or on BP.[/QUOTE]The key thing to note here is the negotiate, negotiate, negotiate! While some of the girls might not be willing to come down, there are more than a few that will. During my last visit a couple of weeks ago, the prices dropped considerably. A lot has to do with how busy the club was, and I was lucky because there were more girls than customers. One quoted me $$ off the bat and I just laughed. She asked how much I had and I told her and she ended up "cutting me a deal".
They will come down fairly quickly.
Side note. All of you Detroit natives enjoy what you have for the price! The rest of the country is not that good!
Stay Safe.
Moputt
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[QUOTE=Drlickaclit; 1256955]Well I'm glad that someone had a good time at bogarts because I definitly did not. I stopped by on Fri night, their were several good looking girls and the place was packed. I was aproached by several girls but all of them wanted 200 for FS and BBBJ. I was like no way, and countered with 100. They all looked at me like I was crazy. But tell me why would I pay 200 for FS and BBBJ in a strip club when I can get a fine girl from BP for an entire hr with good reviews who does all of that for 150? The finest girl there was this 18 yr old named leah who just started working and she doesn't even do any extras! I guess its all about supply and demand. Their were so many guys in the club that I'm sure several of them were willing to pay 200+. I left with a pocket full of money cause it was no way that I was going to pay that.
As I visit more and more clubs in the area, I'm starting to suspect that nothing can really top deanna at h8s. She does BBBJ with cim for 100 and every time I go some place else I end up wishing that I had just gone there and gotten a dance from her. In my opinion, I think that overall h8s is better than bogarts. Its true bogarts has slightly better looking (and younger) girls but they don't all do extras. Plus, the bartenders at bogarts seem to be more anoying that at h8s (and thats saying something cause the bartenders at h8s bug the hell out of you!). I was there for about 2 hrs and I bought 3 drinks and the girl still basicaly asked me to leave because I wasnt ordering any thing. WTF? I'm here to look at TITS AND ASS, not buy $7 beers! What these bartenders don't seem to understand is that when they ask us to leave, they are taking money away from the strippers. Empty barstools don't put dollar bills in g-strings.[/QUOTE]If you think the best is Deanna, you may need to try a few more clubs. BT's or Coli for example. Many girls there will do the whole enchilada for 100 or less. BT's has the stupid bouncer tax, though. I am not saying Deanna isn't good, but there are equals and better. Not to mention better looking or younger.
As for the bartenders and high-priced beers; bear in mind that the clubs are there to sell alcohol. The staff is there to make tips off of selling food and alcohol. They really don't care if you are taking money away from the strippers. No alcohol and food sales = no strip club. Empty barstools don't put money in the bar. Can't tell you how many stories that I have heard from the staffs at the three Hamilton joints about how cheap some bastards are who will nurse a water or beer for several hours and not tip the staff a dime. That is just wrong.
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[QUOTE=Plumber2;1265561]I've been propositioned many times at the coliseum, but it is usually starting at $200.[/QUOTE]Car dealers also start with a high price quote; then what happens? You begin negotiations.
First pointer, when they start at 200, they don't expect to get 200 (unless they find a rube, and as I surmise, there are plenty of them sitting in SCs, maybe even some who visit here?
Next step; when they start at 200, and unless they are smokin' hot. Literally laugh out loud, or spit out some of your beer as you stifle your laugh and disbelief).
Then, say that is way too high and far more than you usually spend. Or if you are really playing poker, just tell them that you would like some fun, but only have "xx" amount of cash on you, as you weren't planning on getting dances, but since you think she is so hot, you wished that you had come with more cash. Quickly dismiss the ATM and CC cash advance.
The rest is up to you.
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BT and H8S
Went out Friday for the day shift. Hit BT's first. Was met at the door by a younger PorterRican girl. I lucked out there, she was the best in the club. Most were 4's, she was a 6. She ask about a dance and I tried to negotitate but she said she didn't know me, maybe I was LE, bla bla bla. I said fine. Went back and had fun, the longer I was back the more that happened. I was back there for 5-6 songs and then she says you owe me $250. I said nope, I told you to agree to a price but you didn't want to. It's $20 or $25 a song, and I had fun, so here is $120. I walked out and she was counting the money. She couldn't even add was the sad part.
Left and went south to H8S. Not a lot to chose from at all. Deanna was there at least but busy. I met a thin girl named Joy I think. She offered it all for $200 and I said no way, I understand she is liekly worth it, I just don't spend money like that. She said how about $100, I hesitated a while and she said we can take 7-8 songes if needed. So I went for it and was pleased with the attitude and effort.
When did H8S get curtains on each VIP booth up? Nicer to be able to stand up and lean the girl over the chair instead of sitting and no room for elbows and knees. Funny I keep trying other places mentioned on here but always end up happier at H8S.
Later all.
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H8
[QUOTE=Truck Engineer; 1265958]Went out Friday for the day shift. Hit BT's first. Was met at the door by a younger PorterRican girl. I lucked out there, she was the best in the club. Most were 4's, she was a 6. She ask about a dance and I tried to negotitate but she said she didn't know me, maybe I was LE, bla bla bla. I said fine. Went back and had fun, the longer I was back the more that happened. I was back there for 5-6 songs and then she says you owe me $250. I said nope, I told you to agree to a price but you didn't want to. It's $20 or $25 a song, and I had fun, so here is $120. I walked out and she was counting the money. She couldn't even add was the sad part.
Left and went south to H8S. Not a lot to chose from at all. Deanna was there at least but busy. I met a thin girl named Joy I think. She offered it all for $200 and I said no way, I understand she is liekly worth it, I just don't spend money like that. She said how about $100, I hesitated a while and she said we can take 7-8 songes if needed. So I went for it and was pleased with the attitude and effort.
When did H8S get curtains on each VIP booth up? Nicer to be able to stand up and lean the girl over the chair instead of sitting and no room for elbows and knees. Funny I keep trying other places mentioned on here but always end up happier at H8S.
Later all.[/QUOTE]I was at H8 on Fri for the day shift too. I was actually pleased with the selection of women there. There was this cute little phillipino girl named Yuke there. She is a 10/10. Has anyone ever had a dance from her? There was also this very curvy blond girl in her 30s there. She had tits and ass for days! I don't know her name but I know someone has tried her out. She went back to the VIP several times when I was there. Any reports on her? And of course there was Deanna. She was very busy. I tried to get a dance from her too but she had just come out of the VIP and she had this other dude already waiting on her, so I went with this other girl named marisa or something like that. Got a BBBJCIM for 100, she also gave me the digits too for future carry out. Her head game was ok, but deanna is better.
And yeah, I know exactly what you mean, I too have been trying to find other places but always end up happier at H8s. Once I had a excellent time at hustler but the last two times have sucked. I think its really hit or miss with a lot of these clubs. It really depends on the time of day and who is working.
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[QUOTE=Deckape; 1265140]If you think the best is Deanna, you may need to try a few more clubs. BT's or Coli for example. Many girls there will do the whole enchilada for 100 or less. BT's has the stupid bouncer tax, though. I am not saying Deanna isn't good, but there are equals and better. Not to mention better looking or younger.
As for the bartenders and high-priced beers; bear in mind that the clubs are there to sell alcohol. The staff is there to make tips off of selling food and alcohol. They really don't care if you are taking money away from the strippers. No alcohol and food sales = no strip club. Empty barstools don't put money in the bar. Can't tell you how many stories that I have heard from the staffs at the three Hamilton joints about how cheap some bastards are who will nurse a water or beer for several hours and not tip the staff a dime. That is just wrong.[/QUOTE]Give me some names of girls that give a good BBBJ at BT and coli and I will gladly stop by. And yeah I know that the bartenders need to make money but I feel like if I am getting one or more drinks an hr then that is more than enough especially if I'm spending money tipping the strippers and taking them to VIP. Besides, asking me to leave is not going to increase their cash flow, its not like theres a drunk outside waiting for me to leave so he can come in and buy $7 beers.
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[QUOTE=Drlickaclit;1266086]Give me some names of girls that give a good BBBJ at BT and coli and I will gladly stop by. And yeah I know that the bartenders need to make money but I feel like if I am getting one or more drinks an hr then that is more than enough especially if I'm spending money tipping the strippers and taking them to VIP. Besides, asking me to leave is not going to increase their cash flow, its not like theres a drunk outside waiting for me to leave so he can come in and buy $7 beers.[/QUOTE]$7 a beer is way to high. By the time you pay cover, order your beer, get the wristband. They are making close to $25-30, that's before you even start ordering dances. Add on a couple more beers and they get close to $50. I could buy close to 4 12 packs for that. Most of these place are dirty and nasty, if they would at least roll some of that money into remodeling I would mind so much. Imagine going to the VIP at bogarts with a UV light. LOL
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ATM scams at strip clubs
[QUOTE=Deckape; 1265670]Car dealers also start with a high price quote; then what happens? You begin negotiations.
First pointer, when they start at 200, they don't expect to get 200 (unless they find a rube, and as I surmise, there are plenty of them sitting in SCs, maybe even some who visit here?
Next step; when they start at 200, and unless they are smokin' hot. Literally laugh out loud, or spit out some of your beer as you stifle your laugh and disbelief).
Then, say that is way too high and far more than you usually spend. Or if you are really playing poker, just tell them that you would like some fun, but only have "xx" amount of cash on you, as you weren't planning on getting dances, but since you think she is so hot, you wished that you had come with more cash. Quickly dismiss the ATM and CC cash advance.
The rest is up to you.[/QUOTE]I agree people should "NEVER" use the ATM at a strip club. Or the CC Cash advance. The fee's are outrageous.
I've witnessed a scam at the H8S ATM where the machine was kicking out one dollar bills instead of 20's every so often about 2 years ago.
There are no regulations on those machines. And they are all rip offs. Go down the road and find a legit one at a bank if you need more cash.