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I so agee with you both
I feel that both of our wise SM below are right concerning UTR's and their movement through the ranks. All of them seem to pickup a sponsor who works with them to school them in the ways of the mongering world. I have done several and it is really fun and a joy to watch them blossom. They are always so thankful and my reward is their learning to be better. It is most important that their income keeps up with their needs or they will be lost to C / L or BP. Jack ManWhoWill.
[QUOTE=Vbgent4u2c;3541220]I would agree with everything except the title. I would suggest it is the de-evolution of UTRs. Especially when a monkey gets involved.[/QUOTE]
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UTRs
So with all the UTR discussion. If you have a bad experience then don't return. I view it like crapy service from a car mechanic; bad service drives me to another shop or dealership. There are definitely no gaurantees in this hobby. Some great providers I have seen in the past have had bad days which turn out to be a just a bad day. If it is slide to the darker side of the hobby that just means its time to find a new mechanic.
For my part, UTRs are definitely a better option than someone that routinely posts on any site except for maybe the X or EROS. But most ladies you dream with on there will definitely run a few more pennies and are usually a GREAT GFE type dream.
As Henry said in post 1440 bitching about a UTR publicly will definitely dry up the well of generosity. I would suggest you discuss the issue with the member who gave you the UTR privately and see if it may have been something you did. Some UTRs do reach back to the members saying "WTF are you givng my number to that asshole". It happens. You have an idea in your head what the UTR should be offering and the UTR has a different idea of what they will offer. If they are not similar then most people call it a bad experience.
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Hailey
So was given this UTRs contact info and I reached out to schedule a meeting and wound up having a great dream with just one exception. I floated over to her location for a hhr dream and was greated by a attractive shorter woman in her early 30's. Very friendly greeting and nice soft lips. As I drifted deeper into this dream she demonstrated some great mic skills almost fully taking me in. There was plenty of attention to the boys and a bit of attention even lower. After about 10 minutes I suited up, lay back and watch her climb aboard and ride. After about 5 minutes I decided to stand up and pick her up for a bunny hop session in front of the mirror that looked great and she seemed to enjoy. Being an old man myself my back was getting tired so we chose to goto her favorite spot in doggy. As stated in previous posts she definitely likes to have her ass smacked; harder were her words. After a couple of more minutes I finished the dream and was very satisfied. The only drawback I had was the location smelling of smoke and maybe a little hint mold. The rest of the day sucked for me since my sinuses were so swelled up from my allergies but I still had a greta dream. Hopefully she has changed location but if you get the chance definitely run and see her.
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Hailey Location
Her location has definitely changed and she's not going to be available for a hot minute. Sadly, she's on vacation (all expenses paid).
[QUOTE=LeeLow1965;3542541]So was given this UTRs contact info and I reached out to schedule a meeting and wound up having a great dream with just one exception. I floated over to her location for a hhr dream and was greated by a attractive shorter woman in her early 30's. Very friendly greeting and nice soft lips. As I drifted deeper into this dream she demonstrated some great mic skills almost fully taking me in. There was plenty of attention to the boys and a bit of attention even lower. After about 10 minutes I suited up, lay back and watch her climb aboard and ride. After about 5 minutes I decided to stand up and pick her up for a bunny hop session in front of the mirror that looked great and she seemed to enjoy. Being an old man myself my back was getting tired so we chose to goto her favorite spot in doggy. As stated in previous posts she definitely likes to have her ass smacked; harder were her words. After a couple of more minutes I finished the dream and was very satisfied. The only drawback I had was the location smelling of smoke and maybe a little hint mold. The rest of the day sucked for me since my sinuses were so swelled up from my allergies but I still had a greta dream. Hopefully she has changed location but if you get the chance definitely run and see her.[/QUOTE]
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UTR Understanding
Thanks to all who commented on my "UTR Misconception" post. First of all, I have had a couple good experiences and a couple bad experiences with UTRs. I did not publically down anyone and mentioned no names in my generic report. I simply shared a couple of UTR experiences with the community that were not so great and asked a simple question about when a provider is no linger considered a UTR. The "Evolution of a UTR" post clearly answers my question and at the same time backs my point which is that UTR providers can be exactly like BP providers accept they do not post publically. It seems I met a couple of UTRs that were at a particular stage in their evolution where they were seeing more Johns than I would have liked. The explanations of the evolution of these girls given in the posts below makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing your insight.
As far as my status now as being questionable or not trustworthy for posting that. That's fine. I understand that this community has a unique, sometimes weird etiquette that I may have overstepped. As stated above, no names were mentioned and the report was generic. But if others choose not to assist me in the future, I understand. I honestly do not need assistance to get laid, as I was simply testing out the UTR waters. The report I posted sparked some great conversation and insight form senior members which is one of the perks and purposes of this forum.
Yours truly,
MinuteMan.
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Well Stated
MM,
If you have a bad experience, post about it. Just because it's a UTR doesn't mean she's untouchable. Unfortunately, some get put on a pedestal but we all have different tastes. I've done it before and I even mentioned the name. I didn't trash anyone (nor did you) but I gave an honest assessment and ended it with a probably not a repeat. Keep posting brother.
CB.
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Re: Evolution Of UTRs
[QUOTE=MinuteMan757;3542704]The "Evolution of a UTR" post clearly answers my question and at the same time backs my point which is that UTR providers can be exactly like BP providers accept they do not post publically. It seems I met a couple of UTRs...[/QUOTE]Thank you for clarifying your point and now that you have I totally disagree with your assessment.
The differences between UTR Ladies and BP Ladies are too numerous to list.
The advertising is of course the biggest one with the risk of going to see a BP lady over a UTR a close second.
One personal issue for me is volume. A BP lady could easily see 5-10 guys a day where a true UTR might see 1 a week or even less. One BP lady that I went to see (back when I risked messing around on BP) found her drunk off her ass told me that she wanted to hurry up with me cause I was #20 for the day and she was "tired". Needless to say I was NOT #20!
What you are referring to are the few exceptions. For a definition of a UTR you can find specifics early in the forum. As for your question when do they lose their UTR status well that is obviously when they don't meet the definition of a UTR any longer.
Saying all UTR's are exactly like BP ladies except for the advertising is simply ridiculous.
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Julia
Has anyone heard from Julia recently? Haven't got a response from her in over a month.
Lee.
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UTR Definition
Vb gent,
Thanks for backing up my point. Please read my paragraph again. I stated that UTRs "can" be just like BP chicks.
I did not say "ALL" UTRs, or "every" UTR, or "in every case" .
Like you said, the differences are too many to list.
What you stated makes sense. Thanks.
MM.
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Re: Julia
[QUOTE=LeeLow1965;3544708]Has anyone heard from Julia recently? Haven't got a response from her in over a month.
Lee.[/QUOTE]She texted me today. Said she was busy with personal stuff but she hasn't found another job as yet.
Enjoy as she is luscious.
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[QUOTE=MinuteMan757;3542704]Thanks to all who commented on my "UTR Misconception" post. First of all, I have had a couple good experiences and a couple bad experiences with UTRs. I did not publically down anyone and mentioned no names in my generic report. I simply shared a couple of UTR experiences with the community that were not so great and asked a simple question about when a provider is no linger considered a UTR. The "Evolution of a UTR" post clearly answers my question and at the same time backs my point which is that UTR providers can be exactly like BP providers accept they do not post publically. It seems I met a couple of UTRs that were at a particular stage in their evolution where they were seeing more Johns than I would have liked. The explanations of the evolution of these girls given in the posts below makes perfect sense. Thanks for sharing your insight.
As far as my status now as being questionable or not trustworthy for posting that. That's fine. I understand that this community has a unique, sometimes weird etiquette that I may have overstepped. As stated above, no names were mentioned and the report was generic. But if others choose not to assist me in the future, I understand. I honestly do not need assistance to get laid, as I was simply testing out the UTR waters. The report I posted sparked some great conversation and insight form senior members which is one of the perks and purposes of this forum.
Yours truly,
MinuteMan.[/QUOTE]Some of why'all (not you MM) take this stuff way too seriously. If it makes you feel better to refer to someone as a UTR then a BP girl than more power to you but at the end of the day they all take $$$ to meet guys, whether it's 2 guys a week or 100. It's all semantics.
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[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;3548153]Some of why'all (not you MM) take this stuff way too seriously. If it makes you feel better to refer to someone as a UTR then a BP girl than more power to you but at the end of the day they all take $$$ to meet guys, whether it's 2 guys a week or 100. It's all semantics.[/QUOTE]What you say is true. However, I am not paying these girls so I can sleep with them. I pay them so I can get up and leave right after I dump a load off and not think twice about it. At least that's my story and I am sticking with it. LOL.
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UTR Definition
[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;3548153]Some of why'all (not you MM) take this stuff way too seriously. If it makes you feel better to refer to someone as a UTR then a BP girl than more power to you but at the end of the day they all take $$$ to meet guys, whether it's 2 guys a week or 100. It's all semantics.[/QUOTE]And if some of why'all think that BP girls and UTR's are the same we will just have to agree to disagree.
End of story.
Let's get back on topic.
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They Are Out There!
Been friends with a young lady on FB for over a year. Just stayed in touch with her from time to time asked how she was doing and most of the time she wouldn't reply or she would just say "I'm good. " until yesterday. Said she was having some $ problems, had to move in with mom and of course her phone is going to be shut off.
Asked if I could help and she asked if I could help her with her phone bill. Said I could if she would do something nice for me. At first she said she didn't do "that stuff", but after a few messages she wanted some details and set a date.
This lovely is young (22), has a rockin body and very pretty. Her phone bill is a little more than I normally would part with but something tells me she is going to be worth it. A lot of time and effort to make it happen, but it looks like it is going to happen.
They are out there and Christmas is just 3 short months away. FB and CL will start heating up.
Have fun!
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Sexy Caramel Beauty
Gents,
I have a sexy 21 y/o caramel beauty who is in need of a little assistance. BBBJCIM (she spits) and full covered sex. No anal period. She hosts. If interested please PM. Serious inquiries only. If you don't plan to see her then don't waste my time PMing me.
Blak sends.