Good points there Cee. Thanks.
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Good points there Cee. Thanks.
I had the opportunity to hook up with "misty" too. She acted a bit nervous when she first got into my car. After the car ride to the motel she actually showed a very cute personality. Cute face, and hot little body. She really didn't get into the sex that much and kind of ruined the BBBJ with all of the gagging she was doing. I didn't get her number, but I'm sure when the weather gets warmer she will be out on the street again.
[QUOTE=Mr Boombastic; 1104760]I almost yelled out "Oh Hell NO. He Didn't pay a street SW $60 buck. Say it ain't so. I bet she would have taken 30, but now she knows she can get 60, and that killed it for everyone else with her. Man paying that and you are a Senior Member w / over 100 post of merit. When you do this the other naive member feel it is okay to pay the same or more.
I have heard "WordUp, Giani, Harpo, and More" post about paying more than 30bucks for any reason. Once we start paying more than word gets out and they will ask for more, and the service will never improve, but the pay will. I have seen several SW's out there who are more than happy with 30, and call me for more. I just found a SEXZ WSW, who is 25y / o who I meet at Findlay Market 2 weeks ago. I saw her talking to a BSW I have been with and one thing lead to another. Turns out she remembered me from a friend of hers I use to see that was a part-timer. Reliability means a lot to P / T SW's, because they need to know they can rely on you in a pinch.
You don't need a lecture from me. But I don't understand why "YOU" would give up 60, for any reason. Even 40buck is a bonanza on the streets.
Anyway. I guess you can pay what ever you can afford to, but everything has a standard, and it makes it much harder maintain a standard on the streets, especially in this economy.
New Subject:
Has any one caught up to the older Misty from NKy. I have been looking for her for a while, and have been just missing her by hours or days. She is a Ding-Bat, but I can deal with her even when she is drank or high. There was a thick WSW named Christy I liked to see, but she turned into a Drug Crazed Addict. She was wanting money up front to buy drugs for a fix, and was always in a drug induced mental fog. She was always just on the edge of being unmanageable. If you have info please PM me. No need to post the info unless that is what you want to do.
Lastly with all the bad weather, and snow, be certain to ask for digits, that work, because it will save a ton of money not having to drive around, and be certain to find out is your SW is Bi, because if she is then you can be set, for something good. And be certain to ask if she is willing for refer you to her friends, for service, which will help out your contact list, through the Cold Months.
BE BOLD ALWAYS ASK. ANY QUESTION. JUST USE unCOMMON SENSE! [/QUOTE]
Meet a Girl named Amanda / Daisey in Covington Young and cute! It was very cold out when I picked her up. Took her about 30 min to get warm enough to do anything. Gave a BJ / HJ about a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10. I want to give her the benefit of a doubt because it was so cold. About 12 deg outside Will try again,
I am a new member here. I am pleased that I have found this forum. I have picked up a few SW's on McMicken. However, after reading some of the posts her, I am probably lucky that they were truly SW's. What are the some the rules and checks that I should be doing? I know obviously to never talk through the window. I have had a couple of girls give their numbers, but I was so nervous and afraid I have since lost them. The only things I have done are car dates. I have had BBBJCIM and bbbjcimws. I have not done anything else. I have read a few peole go to the hotels; is that worth the extra cost and what I would assume is a reduced risk of getting caught?
Any help or suggestions are appreaciated.
Be careful downtown. Tons of activity around the theater. Saw some people being surrounded by tons of cars today.
[QUOTE=Upullandpay;1106454]Meet a Girl named Amanda / Daisey in Covington Young and cute! It was very cold out when I picked her up. Took her about 30 min to get warm enough to do anything. Gave a BJ / HJ about a 4 on a scale from 1 to 10. I want to give her the benefit of a doubt because it was so cold. About 12 deg outside Will try again,[/QUOTE]Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets.
[QUOTE=Jalex; 1107045]Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets. [/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing that up Jalex! My opinion of young and cute is Champagne, whom Supereloquent has been posting pics of in the photo gallery. Now that my friends is smoking!
Even more reason why 60 was too much. She wasn't even worth the money to begin with, man that is crazy. This is not going to kill the market out there, but it is a start in the wrong direction. I have SW, friend who talk about getting the Foolish Johns to pay more, for a lot less. They see it as a game, and see the men as push overs even if they really aren't. Once they peg you at being one, they will treat you with less respect, and still want respect to them from you. They know you are thinking with your balls, and not you thinking head.
EveryOne. And I mean everyone learns that early lesson. A few of us learn it from others, but we all learn it in some way. So knowing how to play the game is just that. Knowing how to play the game. And with a pocket ful of 20s you still could have only even her 40 not 60, especially for not getting exceptional service.
At this point the issue is over, and what is done is done. It where happens in the future that counts, or what others can learn from. This is a lesson to learn for everyone. Keep small bills in your pockets, and if you stop at the ATM, go to the corner store, and break a few 20's. Stop at Alabama's and get a fish dinner or even at Riches, but keep several 10s. 5s. 1s. Good to pay a tip to help the cause.
I have found some diamonds, but I don't get the lack of cell phone time. I even have a few that refuse to get a cell phone, and several that have a phone plan and minutes will bug the hell out of you about getting together. I even had one call my throw down phone at 5am wanting a date and wanted me to pick her up in NKy for a date in Cincy according to her voice mssg. I had to put her in check, QUICKLY!
IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE CERTAIN. That you apply the techniques and information posted in all the reports. It is a lot to read, and it will take some time, but it is will worth the effort. And read the Archives too, they have answers to questions most FAQ.
Lastly don't think this is some type of get on Getnati post. This is more to alert others that you don't have to pay more than 30 at anytime to get very good service from 90-95% of the SW's out there. If you pay 40 for any reason then you better be making some Big Azz Demands are made for that extra 10. But still don't pay 40. The going rate is 25 including tip, if she is good. But most will accept 20 with a smile.
They expect you want something big for your money. Make certain you get it. They need you really more than you need them so act like it. There are more men willing to pay than there are decent SW's, but to play with. So don't get it twisted, as long as you have the MONEY, You Have the POWER.
[QUOTE=Getnati;1105155]Ah geez, did I mention currency in my post? Here we go. Let me explain before before everyone thinks I'm ruining the game! Would I give her. 60 again after my previous experience with her? No. Would I give. 40? Maybe. She didn't look like your average SW. She was young and so fresh and so clean looking. Although unfortunately her looks didn't match the service. There are a couple of factors that play out for me. First off, .02's are mostly what I carry. Yeah, yeah, yeah the mongers wallet. Sometimes, but it's just not convenient for myself. If I have the. 01's on me, I might negotiate a little more. I give a cute looking girl the benefit of the doubt on the first go around expecting better then normal service. Bargaining can also RUIN the experience in some cases. This economy isn't driving up the going rate for drug addicted SW's in Cincinnati and neither did my latest splurge. Trust me, if I didn't think I found a diamond, I wouldn't have offered that much. To prove my point, and free up the supply chain with this young lady, I'll make sure I go a second round with her soon and give no more than .3 to .4 tops.[/QUOTE]
Tooling around yesterday, (did not have time to sample the wares) , things looked better on the cruise, to an extent.
On Elm near Henry (yes, one of the hottest spots in former days, I felt like I was in a time machine) , there were *TWO* SWs: one tall with long blonde hair in a light jacket, and one medium height, with a dark hoody. The hoody-girl looked really good, pleasant smile, bright eyes, as she waived. Could not stop, though I wanted to.
At the end of McM nr MLK, another SW, smoking a cig at the bus stop. At first I was not sure she was working. She looked a little POed, but worthy of exploration. Dark haired, with only a light sweatshirt, I am pretty sure she was working (she gave me half the look, but unenthusiastic). She had opportunity to walk up to the car, but did not make an obvious move. She looked inviting enough, but not nearly as much as the hoody-girl.
Returning to the East, passed the corner of Elm and McM (again--felt like old times--OTR has been SO dry lately), and there was the same long haired blonde, waiving and smiling. She looked better on the second pass (that seldom happens) , but again, the time was not right.
If anyone has had experience with any of these three probable providers, we would all be grateful. Describe the SW with as much detail as you dare. The bottom line is that none of these were 'discards.' All worthy of exploration.
My shy friend said he is going to send me a description of a positive experience of a week or so ago with an Angel. When he gets it together, will post it for him.
Still-be VERY careful out there, know the rules (the video posted recently of how to recognize an LE sting was right on (sorry I don't remember who posted it).
I expect that these observations are not news to LE. Do you have observations which LE probably knows, but which readers of the board might not? I hope the board comes back to life soon.
Giani
[QUOTE=Jdiegs; 1106492]I am a new member here. I am pleased that I have found this forum. I have picked up a few SW's on McMicken. However, after reading some of the posts her, I am probably lucky that they were truly SW's. What are the some the rules and checks that I should be doing? I know obviously to never talk through the window. I have had a couple of girls give their numbers, but I was so nervous and afraid I have since lost them. The only things I have done are car dates. I have had BBBJCIM and bbbjcimws. I have not done anything else. I have read a few peole go to the hotels; is that worth the extra cost and what I would assume is a reduced risk of getting caught?
Any help or suggestions are appreaciated. [/QUOTE]Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.
22 Rules for Street Mongering
1. IS SHE WORKING?. It ain't like in the movies.They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy!. Then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you) , be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.
18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ. 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more". The word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it!) , and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means,"I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your #. Which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe
[QUOTE=Jalex; 1107045]Don't waste your time, IMO. 4/10 is just about right.
I'm curious what you other experiences have been like, because Daisy isn't all that young (about 30) , and definitely not worthy of a "cute!". There are MUCH better options out there, even on the streets. [/QUOTE]Not that much, Only 2 other SW and they were both in there 30s. I felt Daisy was around the 25 year old range, I am in my 50s so that is young to me. I have only seen 1 Escort in this area and that's Candy. A Red head I seen about 1 year ago. Talked to her lately but she is Pregnant and not real active right now.
Golfcart:
Thank you very much for the reply. As I have said in my previous post; the hotspot I have always hit up is McMicken. I know several have talked about Covington. Are there any other big spots? Is there any spots towards Colerain or Oxford that anyone is aware of?
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1107786]Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.
22 Rules for Street Mongering
1. IS SHE WORKING. It ain't like in the movies. They wear ordinary clothes, and are just walking alone, with no bags, or maybe making a phone call at a pay phone (but if you checked, there's no one on the line). Believe it or not, a girl walking alone and without shopping bags on a hobbyist street is almost always a SW.
2. If you aren't sure, come back in a few minutes. Non-pros who happen to be walking are going somewhere, which isn't up and down the same stretch of road. And on hobbyist streets, the local women tend to avoid looking like they might be in business, unless they are!
3. If she is watching traffic, she's probably a SW.
4. If she makes eye contact with you, she's probably a SW.
5. If she then smiles at you, she is a SW. After all, you're just some dude driving by.
6. If she's with a "boyfriend", who disappears when you come around again, he's pimping her. Be careful! Don't unlock the door until she's ready to get in, with him nowhere to be seen! If you follow these rules, you're in control of the situation.
7. MAKING THE PICKUP. Pull over at the next parking lot, or around the next corner and park nearby. If you're sure she saw you. Smile back at her, dummy. Then feel free to pull further down the block, so it's not so easily observed by LE. She'll casually turn down your block, walk past. And then suddenly walk up to see if you're letting her in. Keep eye contact, keep smiling. Invite her in.
8. Lock the other doors! You're in a crime-filled neighborhood!
9. AVOIDING LE STINGS. Do not EVER EVER EVER discuss anything with a girl who isn't seated in your car, except to offer her a ride. THAT'S ALL YOU'RE DOING! IT'S LEGAL! Just being a nice guy. On every board I've seen, LE always tries to make the bust without the F LE risking her ass by getting in. READ THIS RULE AGAIN! IT'S IMPORTANT!
10. This is the perfect time for LE to pull you over for rolling through a stop sign, just to harass your ass. Drive like a preacher! It's an effective way of intimidating we hobbyists, and they'll use any opportunity if they're watching.
11. Make a turn or two before discussing $$, just in case. Watch your rear view. You can bet she will, too! I've never heard of LE getting in the car, with a follower, but better safe than sorry. A known LE trick. She doesn't get in, but directs you to meet her around the corner. Guess who's waiting there, instead of her? If she doesn't get in right away, move on!
12. AVOIDING SCAMS. If you do a car date, and you let her pick the spot (she'll try to direct you) , be aware that she may be setting you up for a robbery. Don't settle for her spot. Or at least, force her to come up with a second choice. Her boyfriend can't be in two places at once.
13. If you go back to a hotel, and she picked it, be aware that this could be a setup for cash&dash, or her pimp busting in & robbing you.
14. If you go back to her place. Are you mad? The "boyfriend busting in mad, waving a gun" scam probably happens a lot. Since the victims won't report the robbery, they get by with it, even though the victims know where the robbers are staying!
15. If you go back to your hotel, um, have fun! (OK, that's not a rule. If you go back to your hotel, be discreet so the mgmt doesn't call LE on you.)
16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?
17. YOUR WALLET. Do not leave your wallet within her reach. If you think you know a clever spot to hide it, remember that 100's of others have thought of it, too. While you're distracted, her free hand can be working.
18. YOUR MONEY. Do not have more in your pocket than you want to spend. She (and your dick) will talk it out of you. If she's really worth an extra few dollars, you can go get it (out of the trunk, the ATM, your other pocket, whatever). Current street rates are 20 for BJ. 40-50 for FS, and you can tip later if you think it's worth it. Remember, it isn't worth it just because you came. She'll always demand a tip, if she thinks it's coming. Many will claim they "usually charge more". The word on this board is: they don't. But, hey, some of these girls are hard-working, quality-driven providers, even though they're SW (really. I mean it!) , and they deserve a break.
19. HUNTING HOURS. They're out at all times, in most weather. I've heard of them walking as early as 4:30am, and well past midnight. They work the lunch hours for guys on lunch, afternoons for guys on early shifts, mornings for guys who'll be late for work, and all through the evening and night. If it's lightly raining, there will be less, but there will be some. Most of these girls are drug addicts; their addiction doesn't have a "M-F, excluding legal holidays" schedule.
20. CFS! Carry a condom. Usually, they don't have one (which I think is so fuc*ing stupid, but then, if they had a clue they wouldn't be SW-ing). You don't want to be tempted to skip the cover because that pussy is so fine.
And the freebie: Every time some SW claims "I'm the best! I'm worth more", it really means,"I'm a lame-ass lying lazy talent less junkie!" The good ones don't have to brag; they'll get your return business.
21. Don't let her use your cellphone. It's a very common request. She'll call her friend, or her own phone, and that will give her access to your. Which might set you up for unexpected & inopportune calls for business or bail money.
22. Be friendly. As has been noted in other threads, these are people with feelings, not just automaton sex dispensers. If you're friendly, chatty, and warm, she'll open up, relax, and probably be more generous with her service, in all the little ways that matter most. Remember, if she's never hooked up with you before, she's worried that you might be either LE, or some psycho SW-stalker.
As always Play Safe[/QUOTE]
Just wanted to help Golfcart and others out (no criticism meant). Golfcart copied them into his post for reference, but I wanted everyone to know that there [B][I]is [/I][/B]a link to the "22 Rules for Street Mongering" on the main page ([url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php[/url]).
It's on the left hand side. Directly to the left of the "Threads with Recent Reports" which is the main center section, there is the Hotlinks section. First is a link to "All The Forums" and then links to specific cities. Under that, there are some other hotlinks and the "22 Rules" are the 9th item down.
Here is a direct link to the page, which also has the "19 Rules for Street Walkers" and "Streetwalker Rules by Piker"
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_mongeringrules&title=22%20Rules%20for%20Street%20Mongering[/url]
Hope that helps some.
Be well and Merry Christmas!
JR
[QUOTE=Golfcart;1107786]Jdiegs, Jackson has 22 Rules for Street Mongering. This is our Bible. The site is currently undergoing a software upgrade and unfortunately the list is not currently posted on the Home page. So Jdiegs, for you, here they are. Read and follow every one without exception.[/QUOTE]
Jry Wild1,
Thank you very much for your help. I have not been following several of those rules. I am glad to have come across others that will help me. I mean while and try to better understand how to use this forum to help me both get better dates and avoid LE.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Jry Wild1; 1108409]Just wanted to help Golfcart and others out (no criticism meant). Golfcart copied them into his post for reference, but I wanted everyone to know that there [B][I]is [/I][/B]a link to the "22 Rules for Street Mongering" on the main page
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/index.php[/url]
It's on the left hand side. Directly to the left of the "Threads with Recent Reports" which is the main center section, there is the Hotlinks section. First is a link to "All The Forums" and then links to specific cities. Under that, there are some other hotlinks and the "22 Rules" are the 9th item down.
Here is a direct link to the page, which also has the "19 Rules for Street Walkers" and "Streetwalker Rules by Piker"
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_mongeringrules&title=22%20Rules%20for%20Street%20Mongering[/url]
Hope that helps some.
Be well and Merry Christmas!
JR[/QUOTE]
As promised, my shy friend who is worried about traceability of posts wrote up a recent experience for me to post. Here is his directly quoted description:
"Picked up an Angel on McM near D&D (remembering how HOT that spot is, I pulled around the corner to let her come to me. She looked good from a distance, medium height and fairly slim, and wearing a dark hoody which made her not immediately recognizable. She came around the corner directly to the car and jumped right in. Yes, she needed a ride... She was friendly, open to discussion. After we exchanged feels (no $ mentioned!) , we headed for a parking garage. As we approached the garage, we agreed on BBBJCIM for 0. 2. No argument, no bargaining, just straight up.
Once we parked in a relatively isolated area, she attended very nicely to business, responding well to direction about roughness (not rough) and speed (slow!). I especially liked that she lingered after the cumming event.
If you meet her, be very nice. She is a sweetie, worthy of respectful treatment, and in my case, well worth a 0.05 tip. She was grateful for the interaction."
Wow. I wouldn't mind meeting such an "Angel" myself. Thanks to my shy friend for the message.
Giani