Massage Parlor Reports (Formerly Pine)

I tried the new place on Dundee in BG, about a block west from Anne's, which I reported on in Dec. It's in the worst looking little strip mall in a long time. The front of the spa itself I had to look hard to find. Low key is the word here. But mammasan lets me in and the inside is very nice. Nice room, table shower, washroom, etc. She put me in there and told me someone would be along. 5 minutes latter a tall Korean woman walks in, about 32 but put together nice. Sofie. She asks if I'd been there before, of course. I say no, but you've only been open a few weeks, right? She laughs and says yes. All very getting to know you sort of thing. Table shower was nice but standard. Massage was good. On the flip she sits down on my chest to massage my head, leaning over so the twins were a mere inch away from my nose. Then "all done". It took a few tries to get her to trust me. And after that it was just a very standard finish. Not sure I'll be back unless I hear better.

Now has a table shower. They mention it in the massage section of BP, but not in the body rubs section. When I went, it was not offered to me, so I asked and had to pay an additional ten. Helen was the MT.

[QUOTE=MrLittle;2477507]Now has a table shower. They mention it in the massage section of BP, but not in the body rubs section. When I went, it was not offered to me, so I asked and had to pay an additional ten. Helen was the MT.[/QUOTE]They used to have a super cute 26 year old girl. Who I had a blast with. Helen is very very vanilla. Ts is 10 extra but its a solid 15 20 min really good scrub! I go here a lot. Lisa gives an amazing massage and fun too. No FS unless you are really on your game LOL.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;2327824]I'm not specifically talking about Pine, but when you see a new ad for an old spa that says Under New Management, take it with a grain of salt. In my unhappy experiences, what it really means is.

We treated you nice before, then we burned you by shorting you on the time, the shower, and gave you Moses' first girlfriend as your MT. Then we upsold like crazy, counting on your little head to make your big head stupid. When you left, you felt burned. So we're going to tell you New Management, hoping the little head will do the thinking for you once again. But you'll never meet the management that supposedly changed, and we'll pretend we can't understand you if you ask. So come on back![/QUOTE]I wrote this in January, about how a spa that has gotten a rep for burning its customers tries to lure those customers back with ads that read "Under New Management", as if that will change everything. You expect that for spas that have been around for years. But get this.

[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-new-owner-gem-asian-spa/27301581[/URL]

They've only been open for a little over two weeks. We haven't said much about them here, so why do they need to posts ads like this? I swear it's all cut and paste with these ads from one spa to another. You expect the pictures and promises of Best Service to be copied from place to place. But the New Owner tag already?

[QUOTE=SamSpade;2480102]I wrote this in January, about how a spa that has gotten a rep for burning its customers tries to lure those customers back with ads that read "Under New Management", as if that will change everything. You expect that for spas that have been around for years. But get this.

[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-new-owner-gem-asian-spa/27301581[/URL]

They've only been open for a little over two weeks. We haven't said much about them here, so why do they need to posts ads like this? I swear it's all cut and paste with these ads from one spa to another. You expect the pictures and promises of Best Service to be copied from place to place. But the New Owner tag already?[/QUOTE]Give 'them the benefit of the doubt. "New Owner" might not have changed the management.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;2480102]I wrote this in January, about how a spa that has gotten a rep for burning its customers tries to lure those customers back with ads that read "Under New Management", as if that will change everything. You expect that for spas that have been around for years. But get this.

[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-new-owner-gem-asian-spa/27301581[/URL]

They've only been open for a little over two weeks. We haven't said much about them here, so why do they need to posts ads like this? I swear it's all cut and paste with these ads from one spa to another. You expect the pictures and promises of Best Service to be copied from place to place. But the New Owner tag already?[/QUOTE]That is crazy. I posted about the inflated price and supremely average service just recently, almost immediately after my visit. Within a couple hours, and they were literally still building the interior.

Who knows, maybe they keep an eye on this forum!

If that is the case, then I have a few words of advice. If your door fee is 20 over regular market, then offer something that justifies it.

Gem is no different than the other places nearby, and an 80 door fee needs to have justification behind it. I am not paying that when the service is standard fare you can get anywhere.

For the mongers who remember, a place like dragon spa across from cozy is what I expect for that price. A fantastic assisted stand up shower in a large bathroom, a great sauna with massage in the sauna as you warm up, with some playfulness in the sauna.

It is about a half hour of shower, sauna, and chilling with the ladies before you get to the room, and you get a full unused hour massage before anything else. And the fun part was you always got at least 5 to 10 min of 4 hand. Mm the other girl would come in and rub and chat me up and flirt and tease.

On the flip, they gave you a nice facial, they put a ton of effort in the massage experience and then always finished up really well.

I was always in there for about 2 hours for a 1 hour massage. Best place ever.

So gem, how about going the extra mile for the extra fee. Bring in an extra girl for a limited amount of time for a 4 hand during the hour. I wouldn't mind my Mt leaving for a few to do that, as long as I got a good 4 hand payoff as a bonus.

I usually try new AMPs several times before cutting them off, but I will not go to gem unless they drop the price or add to the experience. Shit. They didn't even offer me water or have a dish of candy!

[QUOTE=Rabble;2482911]That is crazy. I posted about the inflated price and supremely average service just recently, almost immediately after my visit. Within a couple hours, and they were literally still building the interior.

Who knows, maybe they keep an eye on this forum!

If that is the case, then I have a few words of advice. If your door fee is 20 over regular market, then offer something that justifies it.

Gem is no different than the other places nearby, and an 80 door fee needs to have justification behind it. I am not paying that when the service is standard fare you can get anywhere.

For the mongers who remember, a place like dragon spa across from cozy is what I expect for that price. A fantastic assisted stand up shower in a large bathroom, a great sauna with massage in the sauna as you warm up, with some playfulness in the sauna.

It is about a half hour of shower, sauna, and chilling with the ladies before you get to the room, and you get a full unused hour massage before anything else. And the fun part was you always got at least 5 to 10 min of 4 hand. Mm the other girl would come in and rub and chat me up and flirt and tease.

On the flip, they gave you a nice facial, they put a ton of effort in the massage experience and then always finished up really well.

I was always in there for about 2 hours for a 1 hour massage. Best place ever.

So gem, how about going the extra mile for the extra fee. Bring in an extra girl for a limited amount of time for a 4 hand during the hour. I wouldn't mind my Mt leaving for a few to do that, as long as I got a good 4 hand payoff as a bonus.

I usually try new AMPs several times before cutting them off, but I will not go to gem unless they drop the price or add to the experience. Shit. They didn't even offer me water or have a dish of candy![/QUOTE]This Dragon Spa sounds like what Mich's could of been, back in the day. Mich's also had high prices, but when I was a regular, there was great service to justify the prices. Longer than usual shower time with flirting and lots of hospitality from the mamsan. Sometimes the girl would sit with me in the sauna and chat for a bit. And from time to time, during the massage other girls would pop into the room and flirt and play around.

It seems more places these days are cookie cutter service with almost an "assembly line" feel. Yuns is probably the closest place to one of the "old school" spas, but their staff changes to frequently. Once I get comfortable with a girl there, she moves on and I never see them again.

To the Admin:

I can't say all users would agree, (but I bet they agree) if possible, can the Admin change the name of the "Pine" Thread to Massage Parlor Reports, as it is organized in the rest of the Chicago area? Also, recently, the Pine Thread was moved into the User Blogs section. But it really covers all Massage Parlors in the North Chicagoland area. So the Thread Name should be changed and it should be moved back up to the Administrator. Moderated Area. Thanks. Bob.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2503997]To the Admin:

I can't say all users would agree, (but I bet they agree) if possible, can the Admin change the name of the "Pine" Thread to Massage Parlor Reports, as it is organized in the rest of the Chicago area? Also, recently, the Pine Thread was moved into the User Blogs section. But it really covers all Massage Parlors in the North Chicagoland area. So the Thread Name should be changed and it should be moved back up to the Administrator. Moderated Area. Thanks. Bob.[/QUOTE][BLUE]Since this thread has been the de facto thread for massage parlors here in Waukegan I went ahead and changed it to that and stuck it up top.

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Does anyone know where the staff of Mich's Spa ended up? Now that they're gone I really miss them.

[QUOTE=SamSpade;2505941]Does anyone know where the staff of Mich's Spa ended up? Now that they're gone I really miss them.[/QUOTE]I was hoping someone could help me with this info too.

Fizz.

I know they miss you guys too. LOL.

[QUOTE=Fizzman;2507364]I was hoping someone could help me with this info too.

Fizz.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamSpade;2505941]Does anyone know where the staff of Mich's Spa ended up? Now that they're gone I really miss them.[/QUOTE]Ginny is back in NYC from what I know. She's the only one I keep in contact with, yet sparingly. Last I heard that they still want to open up again in Chicagoland area but idk if they have a site picked out yet. As soon as I know where, the board will be the first place I go!

I don't think the other girls are around Chicago any more. I pushed Ginny awhile back to "help me out" in her absence hoping to get some Chicagoland connections from her, but she wouldn't give me any leads. Not sure why not? Ginny and I get along well so I didn't want to push too much and turn her away.

Be safe.

Joe.

Never know where to put these so I'll just share the link here.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5814-McHenry-Crystal-Lake-[/URL](McHenry-County-Area)&p=2511879&viewfull=1#post2511879.

From my personal experience trying to help a couple girls set up new spas, (Northwestern Subs) it is a very time consuming process. A lease is hard to come by and in certain towns zoning approval is almost impossible. A preexisting spa is expensive to purchase. So that is why spas seem to change owners so often. If one place goes out of business there is always another owner waiting to buy the old spa.

On a separate note, I will be traveling to Europe for a couple weeks, including England, Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Russia. I'll report back if I find any good EMPs. (LOL). Take care. Bob.

[QUOTE=Joe6009;2508851]Ginny is back in NYC from what I know. She's the only one I keep in contact with, yet sparingly. Last I heard that they still want to open up again in Chicagoland area but idk if they have a site picked out yet. As soon as I know where, the board will be the first place I go!

I don't think the other girls are around Chicago any more. I pushed Ginny awhile back to "help me out" in her absence hoping to get some Chicagoland connections from her, but she wouldn't give me any leads. Not sure why not? Ginny and I get along well so I didn't want to push too much and turn her away.

Be safe.

Joe.[/QUOTE]