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[QUOTE=ManWhoWill;3532575]
This SM (ME) has a reputation of bringing along some of the greats in the past and present and I know Donna will be among the greats. Jack (ManWhoWill).[/QUOTE]Can we get get a list of these greats Jack?
[QUOTE=ViktorVaughn;3532956]Can we get get a list of these greats Jack?[/QUOTE]Hahah that's great.
I was under the impression that UTRs were Low Volume and usually more normal that crazy BP chicks. This is not always the case. Actually, they can sometimes be very high volume and have just as many problems. Based on what I am reading, it looks like a chick loses her UTR classification when she begins posting on CL or BP. Is this correct? Additionally, I have seen several UTRs that were recommended on this site. I have been slightly disappointed each time. The UTRs I have seen are going through major issues in their life and are very hard up for money (whether for their kids, or drugs or who knows what). One UTR wanted me to call the hotel she was staying at and give them my credit card number to pay for the room so that she would not be kicked out. Yeah, sure, I'll put my credit card down for your room. Really? We've fucked once and you want my CC number? The same UTR asked me to pick up WAWA sandwiches for her before each visit and she wanted like 12 toppings on there. I pick her up a sandwich (without toppings), get to her place and she looks like she hasn't eaten in days. There is a crippled old guy in the apartment watching TV as I walk in and follow her to the bedroom. The place is a wreck. She scarfs the sandwich down in front of me as we talk (not attractive). I ask her what the living situation is and she tells me she rents a room in the apartment with the crippled guy. Bathroom was off limits. I spend an hour with her. Decent time once we got going. Called her again the following week and she was jumping around from hotel to hotel. Stopped calling her because nothing she told me added up to any sort of truth.
Another UTR I saw told me she was saving money for an apartment. I believed her. Place (hotel) was a wreck, smoky and after a few strokes, I could not bare the smell of her bottom. Blew my load in 10 minutes and left. She offered multiple pops, but I could not stay.
You get the picture. I just want to clarify to any newbies that some UTRs are just like some BP chicks, except they do not post on BP. If you find a great UTR chick, keep her. Mine moved away.
If anyone has a nice, clean friendly, honest UTR that needs some assistance, please PM me. I am no nonsense, drama free and looking for something stable and consistent. Thanks to those that shared UTR info with me thus far. They were all nice girls.
MM757.
Well not sure what your point is here but:
1. There are exceptions to every rule including UTRS.
2. Part of the problem is you're getting UTRs secondhand from other mongers.
Keep in mind these ladies are doing this not because they enjoy having sex with you but because they have bills to pay kids to feed tuition and yes probably most use drugs.
To get a "true" UTR you will have to find her yourself but once a lady starts down that path she won't be a UTR long ehen she realized how easy she can make $ and how much.
So enjoy her while you can.
Also if a guy shares a UTR with you the last thing I would do is complain about it because whatever she is she is better than anything else out there in most cases.
[blue][Arrest/Conviction/Incarceration/Release Report deleted by Admin][/blue]
[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because it was a report regarding an individual who was [u]arrested[/u] / [u]charged[/u] / [u]awaiting trial[/u] / [u]convicted[/u] / [u]awaiting sentencing[/u] / [u]incarcerated[/u] / [u]released[/u] / [u]on probation[/u] for engaging in commercial sex activities or any other non-violent crime.
I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea: Posting the names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status and/or the release dates of people who have been arrested for engaging in commercial sex activities is really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people.
Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names, mugshots, case status, incarceration status, or release dates.
[i]Thanks![/i][/blue]
[QUOTE=Vbgent4u2c;3537006]Well not sure what your point is here but:
1. There are exceptions to every rule including UTRS.
2. Part of the problem is you're getting UTRs secondhand from other mongers.
Keep in mind these ladies are doing this not because they enjoy having sex with you but because they have bills to pay kids to feed tuition and yes probably most use drugs.
To get a "true" UTR you will have to find her yourself but once a lady starts down that path she won't be a UTR long ehen she realized how easy she can make $ and how much.
So enjoy her while you can.
Also if a guy shares a UTR with you the last thing I would do is complain about it because whatever she is she is better than anything else out there in most cases.[/QUOTE]Being negative about a lead will only cost you in the long run, it will be remembered.
[QUOTE=MinuteMan757;3536342]I was under the impression that UTRs were Low Volume and usually more normal that crazy BP chicks. This is not always the case. Actually, they can sometimes be very high volume and have just as many problems. Based on what I am reading, it looks like a chick loses her UTR classification when she begins posting on CL or BP. Is this correct? Additionally, I have seen several UTRs that were recommended on this site. I have been slightly disappointed each time. The UTRs I have seen are going through major issues in their life and are very hard up for money (whether for their kids, or drugs or who knows what). One UTR wanted me to call the hotel she was staying at and give them my credit card number to pay for the room so that she would not be kicked out. Yeah, sure, I'll put my credit card down for your room. Really? We've fucked once and you want my CC number? The same UTR asked me to pick up WAWA sandwiches for her before each visit and she wanted like 12 toppings on there. I pick her up a sandwich (without toppings), get to her place and she looks like she hasn't eaten in days. There is a crippled old guy in the apartment watching TV as I walk in and follow her to the bedroom. The place is a wreck. She scarfs the sandwich down in front of me as we talk (not attractive). I ask her what the living situation is and she tells me she rents a room in the apartment with the crippled guy. Bathroom was off limits. I spend an hour with her. Decent time once we got going. Called her again the following week and she was jumping around from hotel to hotel. Stopped calling her because nothing she told me added up to any sort of truth.
Another UTR I saw told me she was saving money for an apartment. I believed her. Place (hotel) was a wreck, smoky and after a few strokes, I could not bare the smell of her bottom. Blew my load in 10 minutes and left. She offered multiple pops, but I could not stay.
You get the picture. I just want to clarify to any newbies that some UTRs are just like some BP chicks, except they do not post on BP. If you find a great UTR chick, keep her. Mine moved away.
If anyone has a nice, clean friendly, honest UTR that needs some assistance, please PM me. I am no nonsense, drama free and looking for something stable and consistent. Thanks to those that shared UTR info with me thus far. They were all nice girls.
MM757.[/QUOTE]The irony is that the UTRs are closer to being pimped out than many of the backpage regulars.
Although possible, in most cases, I disagree. Here are my opiniins and observations to date. The most common scenario is that a UTR is discovered or developed by a monger. In the beginning, he is able to quench her thirst for money but as the money comes in and she discovers how easy the money is, the thirst goes up (especially if she has a pet monkey). The monger then introduces her to a few friends and keeps her quiet. This may last for a few weeks, months, or indefinitely. Sometimes, that's not enough and the small group is unable to keep her in enough money to satisfy her needs. This is when she is offered up in here to SM. Usually that is enough to keep them going rogue but a few venture out on their own with dollar signs in their eyes (Red is an example) because on BP they can pull a higher price per monger. Some will do well but the risk goes up and they have to grind harder because the repeat business goes down as a lot of mongers are looking for that one time bucket list item.
It may seem they get pimped out but as far as I know, the mongers offering these girls up in here gain nothing from it (except the goodwill from providing a stream of mongers and thus income to that particular girl). I'm sure some of the more senior members will chime in if I've missed anything or if I'm way off base.
CB.
[QUOTE=EGray;3538585]The irony is that the UTRs are closer to being pimped out than many of the backpage regulars.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChuckyB;3538735]Although possible, in most cases, I disagree. Here are my opiniins and observations to date. The most common scenario is that a UTR is discovered or developed by a monger. In the beginning, he is able to quench her thirst for money but as the money comes in and she discovers how easy the money is, the thirst goes up (especially if she has a pet monkey). The monger then introduces her to a few friends and keeps her quiet. This may last for a few weeks, months, or indefinitely. Sometimes, that's not enough and the small group is unable to keep her in enough money to satisfy her needs. This is when she is offered up in here to SM. Usually that is enough to keep them going rogue but a few venture out on their own with dollar signs in their eyes (Red is an example) because on BP they can pull a higher price per monger. Some will do well but the risk goes up and they have to grind harder because the repeat business goes down as a lot of mongers are looking for that one time bucket list item.
It may seem they get pimped out but as far as I know, the mongers offering these girls up in here gain nothing from it (except the goodwill from providing a stream of mongers and thus income to that particular girl). I'm sure some of the more senior members will chime in if I've missed anything or if I'm way off base.
CB.[/QUOTE]Bravo and well said!
Absolutely spot on. This is the evolution of the provider. Funny / sad thing is the sexier / better performing the girl is the faster the process goes. And it usually ends poorly for the girl because the dedicated circle of repeat mongers usually lose all interest once a girl goes BP full time. After she has run through the one and done mongers she has a really hard time even making the money she did with the original monger. So her service gets worst and her client base becomes non existent. I know myself and a few of my monger brothers have schooled a few UTRs but the story always ends the same. They either disappear from the hobby for a while or get a new pet monkey that makes them completely erratic, or both.
[QUOTE=ChuckyB;3538735]Although possible, in most cases, I disagree. Here are my opiniins and observations to date. The most common scenario is that a UTR is discovered or developed by a monger. In the beginning, he is able to quench her thirst for money but as the money comes in and she discovers how easy the money is, the thirst goes up (especially if she has a pet monkey). The monger then introduces her to a few friends and keeps her quiet. This may last for a few weeks, months, or indefinitely. Sometimes, that's not enough and the small group is unable to keep her in enough money to satisfy her needs. This is when she is offered up in here to SM. Usually that is enough to keep them going rogue but a few venture out on their own with dollar signs in their eyes (Red is an example) because on BP they can pull a higher price per monger. Some will do well but the risk goes up and they have to grind harder because the repeat business goes down as a lot of mongers are looking for that one time bucket list item.
It may seem they get pimped out but as far as I know, the mongers offering these girls up in here gain nothing from it (except the goodwill from providing a stream of mongers and thus income to that particular girl). I'm sure some of the more senior members will chime in if I've missed anything or if I'm way off base.
CB.[/QUOTE]
I have been laying low for the last few months. Not quite retired but just unfortunately too busy to hunt. But I am making my return to the hobby. Hope my brothers are doing well. BG, Salty, Brother Vic glad to see you all are still crushing them out there.
CB, The evolution process you outlined is absolutely correct. The idea of UTRs being pimped is funny, yes I'm sure it's certainly possible. But I've never sought after a woman in a public domain (actual or digitally) who told me to consult with her pimp first. If that were to happen, I'd walk. And rest assured there are few if any kickbacks for referrals of those UTRs listed here.
Salty.
[QUOTE=ChuckyB;3538735]Although possible, in most cases, I disagree. Here are my opiniins and observations to date. The most common scenario is that a UTR is discovered or developed by a monger. In the beginning, he is able to quench her thirst for money but as the money comes in and she discovers how easy the money is, the thirst goes up (especially if she has a pet monkey). The monger then introduces her to a few friends and keeps her quiet. This may last for a few weeks, months, or indefinitely. Sometimes, that's not enough and the small group is unable to keep her in enough money to satisfy her needs. This is when she is offered up in here to SM. Usually that is enough to keep them going rogue but a few venture out on their own with dollar signs in their eyes (Red is an example) because on BP they can pull a higher price per monger. Some will do well but the risk goes up and they have to grind harder because the repeat business goes down as a lot of mongers are looking for that one time bucket list item.
It may seem they get pimped out but as far as I know, the mongers offering these girls up in here gain nothing from it (except the goodwill from providing a stream of mongers and thus income to that particular girl). I'm sure some of the more senior members will chime in if I've missed anything or if I'm way off base.
CB.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EGray;3538585]The irony is that the UTRs are closer to being pimped out than many of the backpage regulars.[/QUOTE]I do not see that at all. Pimping out would suggest taking something, money, and having control over the provider. In my limited experience, that has not ever been the case.
[blue]So many of these idiots just like calling guys pimps. They call people who answer phones for chicks pimps AND complain about other chicks who never answer their phones.
It's stupid, there are pimps, and pimps suck, but not everybody who might offer services to working girls are pimps.
For you OCD guys, obviously I'm not talking about the letter of the law.
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[QUOTE=ChuckyB;3538735]Although possible, in most cases, I disagree. Here are my opiniins and observations to date. The most common scenario is that a UTR is discovered or developed by a monger. In the beginning, he is able to quench her thirst for money but as the money comes in and she discovers how easy the money is, the thirst goes up (especially if she has a pet monkey). The monger then introduces her to a few friends and keeps her quiet. This may last for a few weeks, months, or indefinitely. Sometimes, that's not enough and the small group is unable to keep her in enough money to satisfy her needs. This is when she is offered up in here to SM. Usually that is enough to keep them going rogue but a few venture out on their own with dollar signs in their eyes (Red is an example) because on BP they can pull a higher price per monger. Some will do well but the risk goes up and they have to grind harder because the repeat business goes down as a lot of mongers are looking for that one time bucket list item.
It may seem they get pimped out but as far as I know, the mongers offering these girls up in here gain nothing from it (except the goodwill from providing a stream of mongers and thus income to that particular girl). I'm sure some of the more senior members will chime in if I've missed anything or if I'm way off base.
CB.[/QUOTE]I would agree with everything except the title. I would suggest it is the de-evolution of UTRs. Especially when a monkey gets involved.