Thanks for the primer course.
[QUOTE=Tommey;5959630]Thanks to Benz for the reminder about the newbie guide. Lots of good info there. Yet, I did a quick scan and didn't see much on negotiating. This post was the only one directly on point: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide&p=4532668&viewfull=1#post4532668[/URL].
I suppose there may be more buried in some of the other content there.
For Gene and others' benefit, it may help if members share some more thoughts about getting started with negotiations.
First off, the best advice I have is, just do it. What works for some won't work for everyone, and you simply need to start doing it. After some practice, you will find an approach that works for your voice and conversational style. So start pushing back on price.
It will not ruin the mood, negotiating. The women doing this work are quite accustomed to it. And you can learn a lot about a provider based on how she handles talk of money.
And, of course, always be prepared to walk away. When the money requests get crazy, there is a time to just bag it, and walk away.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the pointers. It would appear I have a lot to learn in this aspect and have been approaching this from the wrong vantage point and my methods have been fundamentally flawed. I await further nuances from those of you who are skilled in negotiating, not just cost, but also level of services or extras provided. I need to become an ardent student of the game.
Thank you all in advance for your continued assistance in the ongoing education of this dude.
G2.
Understanding my limitations.
[QUOTE=Benz1;5960139]Tommey is right, always be willing to walk away, I've done it many times.
Remember the person in charge is the one with the money. Give her the money and you've lost all control of the date.
If I see an escort that tells me there will be cim and she hands me a cover, I head for the door. Most of the time she'll change her mind before I put my hand on the door knob. If she already had the money I would be getting ripped off.
Negotiations are easy at the salon too.
If they know you're worried about mood kill, they will upcharge and rip you off.
The easiest way to negotiate is by only bringing in what you plan to spend. Let them see it but don't give the money until you're satisfied with service.
When they upsell, tell them I only have X.
Be willing to accept whatever they have to offer for your X. If you don't like their offer for X, counter offer and let them know you can do it yourself and save the whole tip. Once you start jerking off in front of them, they usually see their tip disappearing and they join in.[/QUOTE]Normally I consider myself an educated and fairly intelligent man. However, at this time, my woeful lack of skill and basic understanding of the art of this game is painfully evident. While this is a bit embarrassing, I stand ready to learn and realign my expectations and approaches. It appears I need to take a much "longer range" viewpoint to the activities I desire. I need to learn that amount paid or tipped doesn't necessarily translate to better service or extra activities being made available.
I find solace that perhaps numerous other dudes here are in my shoes. And while they may remain silent, they too can learn from this sharing of information and methodologies.
Thank you.
G2.
