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Reply on CGs
[QUOTE=Baffin]First of all thanks for all the info gents. I'll be in Vegas in Nov/Dec and have a couple of questions. I've read a large part of the thread but it's huge. I get the impression that if one is careful, the risk of getting busted is minimal. However ...
What types of things would I have to say to an undercover cop that would be considered incriminating particularly on the casino floor? Would I be doing this just by saying "yes, I'd like some company". Or is it by negotiating a price explicitly for a stated service before we get to my room. Or is it at the point when I give her the money inside my room that I am "busted"?
Also, I've read that CGs sometimes want assurances that you're not a cop. What do they ask for? And is there a way to ensure that she's not a cop other than to assume that she probably isn't if she goes to your room?
Also, to what extent can an undercover cop "lead" a perspective client before she crosses the line into "entrapment".
I plan to search in casinos/hotels that I'm not actually staying at and bring them back to my room (if they are agreeable) so based on what I've read that's probably the "safest"?
I have noted the good basic information such as "lock up everything" before you bring anyone back, how and where to find them etc. One thing that encourages me is that I'm in my fourties, balding and overweight which seems to make me a CG magnet from what I've read here. Never thought that would pay off :)
Also, I'm from Canada and our laws seem to be somewhat different so I'm just trying to figure out how to best protect myself.
Thank guys, I look forward to sharing my experiences, if I can get access to the internet from jail :) j/k[/QUOTE]
First of all I really wouldn't be overly worried about a LE sting in casinos since, if anything, they would go after the girls that may annoy some visitors and rip off others. Not to say LV doesn't have stings but they are typically more directed to people cruising for SWers than actually in casinos. That being said never hurts to be safe. Here are my rules:
(1) Wait for them to initial conversation
(2) Don't discuss anything too explicit in public
(3) If possible avoid price but that is almost impossible since a deal must be struck before anything can happen.
(4) Never go to her room
(5) Make sure any valuables are in a safe or otherwise locked up and, if possible, never leave her along in your room (like when you are in the bathroom).
Have fun, be safe and let us know how it goes.
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[QUOTE=Ncnite Owl] (2) Don't discuss anything too explicit in public [/QUOTE]Thanks Ncnite Owl!
One last question, what if she starts speaking explicitly first? Am I "safe" or is that unlikely to happen in the first place?
One of reasons I ask is because I'd like to find out a few things before going to my room i.e. I'd be looking for GFE particularly DFK (although based on what I read in this thread it's quite unlikely).
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[QUOTE=Baffin]Thanks Ncnite Owl!
One last question, what if she starts speaking explicitly first? Am I "safe" or is that unlikely to happen in the first place?
One of reasons I ask is because I'd like to find out a few things before going to my room i.e. I'd be looking for GFE particularly DFK (although based on what I read in this thread it's quite unlikely).[/QUOTE]
Just ask her if she likes to kiss... It is unusual to find a willing CG (at least in my experience) but its not illegal.
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Reply to Baffin
[QUOTE=Baffin]Thanks Ncnite Owl!
One last question, what if she starts speaking explicitly first? Am I "safe" or is that unlikely to happen in the first place?
One of reasons I ask is because I'd like to find out a few things before going to my room i.e. I'd be looking for GFE particularly DFK (although based on what I read in this thread it's quite unlikely).[/QUOTE]
On the explicit talk, my experience with CGs (dozens of them) is that say things like "do you want to have fun", "what plans do you have for the night", etc. When you agree on a price that usually covers at least CBJ and CFS. Some allow DATY and some allow DFK but they are the exception. Also, while these girls are as back as crack addicted SWers, they are also well below (IMHO) established escorts and I would partake of DATY or DFK with a CG. Just my preference.
Good luck
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[QUOTE=Ncnite Owl]... Also, while these girls are as back as crack addicted SWers, they are also well below (IMHO) established escorts and I would partake of DATY or DFK with a CG. Just my preference.
Good luck[/QUOTE]Thanks to Alan and Ncnite Owl for your replies.
Ncnite Owl - I'm not sure what you're getting at with the quote above. If it's not too much trouble would you please clarify that one for me. Thanks!
I finally got through the entire CG thread. It's a really interesting and informative read. "I couldn't put it down" :) Thanks to all posters.
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Bellagio
Bellagio is back in play, $$, baccarat bar. The world seems right again.
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[QUOTE=Baffin]Thanks to Alan and Ncnite Owl for your replies.
Ncnite Owl - I'm not sure what you're getting at with the quote above. If it's not too much trouble would you please clarify that one for me. Thanks!
I finally got through the entire CG thread. It's a really interesting and informative read. "I couldn't put it down" :) Thanks to all posters.[/QUOTE]
Heh. I know the feeling.
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[QUOTE=GatorsDen]Bellagio is back in play, $$, baccarat bar. The world seems right again.[/QUOTE]
Fantastic. I'm heading out there in a couple weeks. Hope it's still in play.
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I believe...
[QUOTE=Ncnite Owl]Some allow DATY and some allow DFK but they are the exception. Also, while these girls are as back as crack addicted SWers, they are also well below (IMHO) established escorts and I would partake of DATY or DFK with a CG. Just my preference.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
That he is talking about the quality of girls in question.
"Also, while these girls aren't as bad as crack addicted SWers,"
Personally I am not a huge fan of DATY but to each his own I guess. I don't really think there is a huge difference in Casino girls and and Indies. Either way, some are going to be clean and others dirty.
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Did some strolling around last night and the girls were out just not in great numbers. Saw a few in Flamingo and some nice ones in Venetian. Ended up with a nice petite BCG named Monica. 1.5 for all with a nice BBBJ at the end. I have digits for senior members.
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There were a TON of lower end ho's out on the FSE late last night...around 3am. From pimped girls on down to trailer toothless wonders. I've never seen it like that before.
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Weekend of the 12th
I'm a little behind on getting this entered, but I was in town for the NFL opening weekend so that I could sit in the sports book and drink too much beer on that Sunday and Monday. Of course along with that I had to try my luck at the CG game as well.
As usual I stayed at the South Strip this time in the MGM.
Thursday I only watched the game and was tired and went to bed, but I did wander around (just the MGM) and didn't see too much CG activity.
Friday. Gambled most of the night and walked around the four corners but did not see any that I was interested in and again called it a night fairly early.
Saturday. Wandered around all 4 corner casinos and the Luxor as well and again there were not many out. I did however end up talking to a blonde girl "Tori" at the NYNY for a while and went back to my room. $$ and it was quite rushed. By this time I was wishing I had not left the numbers for my few favorites at home.
Sunday. Walked ALL over the 4 corners, Luxor, and MB. Did that route a few times and only saw 3.4 the whole time. None of whom I ws interested in. Ended up back in my room by myself again (3 out of 4 nights this trip).
Monday night. Watched the games and then started walking around after my friend started gambling. Just like the previous few nights, there were not many out there. I ended up running into Natalie who I have seen a couple of times before and went back with her. $$, not rushed, and good conversation as well. Definitely the best of a slow weekend.
This was by far the slowest weekend I have seen in terms of CG's. I did not see any of my favorites, and really wish that I had there numbers with me. Definitely not one of my better weekends playing the CG game.
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Got it under my skin
Ok gentlemen, wasn't due to go back until March, can't hold out that long so planning a trip now for January (motivation for a strong end of the year push). Now, question for the room: got my choice between some dirt cheap hotels in mid January: exc (had some great luck there before, see previous report), harrah's and bally's (completely untested and know very little about them) and IP (yeah I know, but its cheap). MGM (had some bites there previously, but never reeled in any fish from that lake). Any suggestions? This is going to be in mid January so the weather will be in the 60's.
As always, info is appreciated and reciprocated.
R
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[QUOTE=Rileym]Ok gentlemen, wasn't due to go back until March, can't hold out that long so planning a trip now for January (motivation for a strong end of the year push). Now, question for the room: got my choice between some dirt cheap hotels in mid January: exc (had some great luck there before, see previous report), harrah's and bally's (completely untested and know very little about them) and IP (yeah I know, but its cheap). MGM (had some bites there previously, but never reeled in any fish from that lake). Any suggestions? This is going to be in mid January so the weather will be in the 60's.
As always, info is appreciated and reciprocated.
R[/QUOTE]
MGM is way nicer than Harrahs Ballys or IP. But yeah, cg's can be hit and miss and if its miss, you are stuck there.
Ballys north tower rooms are nice enough. IMO there is no difference in staying at any of the Harrahs properties as all you have to do is walk a couple blocks down LV Bl.
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[QUOTE=Rileym]Ok gentlemen, wasn't due to go back until March, can't hold out that long so planning a trip now for January (motivation for a strong end of the year push). Now, question for the room: got my choice between some dirt cheap hotels in mid January: exc (had some great luck there before, see previous report), harrah's and bally's (completely untested and know very little about them) and IP (yeah I know, but its cheap). MGM (had some bites there previously, but never reeled in any fish from that lake). Any suggestions? This is going to be in mid January so the weather will be in the 60's.
As always, info is appreciated and reciprocated.
R[/QUOTE]
I prefer the MGM as you can check in and get your room key at the airport!