Great report MM and excellent club advice.
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Great report MM and excellent club advice.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5535797]I can't speak for Flight Club, but at bts, you are allowed to go with the shot girl. The way that is works, is she has to change her designation from shot girl to dancer. Then you have to pay her tip out, which is typically around $200, then you negotiate with her for dances and VIP activities and pay that separately directly to the dancer. Typically taking a shot girl will cost you double the money for taking a dancer and that is why it is rarely done. I did it once and I thoroughly enjoyed my time with the shot girl, in fact I had so much fun a took her to the VIP a second time that same night. I would do it again but only for a special girl that was my perfect fantasy.
As for shot girls, the whole purpose of the shot girl is to convert them to dancers. Typically they run ads for waitresses, then when girls apply they say they only have shot girl positions open now, and shot girls can make more money than waitresses. As a shot girl she has to buy all her shots in advance. If she does not sell them during the night, she can be out more money than she brings in. However if she sells multiple trays during the night the second and third tray are all profit to her. The way the club works there are busy nights and slow nights. On a slow night if she is not making enough money they offer her to go on stage and dance, and then they have a new dancer for the next few weeks. It is an efficient system, and not all shot girls will become dancers, but I encourage you to be friendly with them, because once they start dancing you can be one of their first customers.
MM.[/QUOTE]One other piece to consider when trying to snag a shot girl. Some dancers will switch back and forth between dancing and serving, depending on the time of the month. If you find a real hottie serving shots and are wondering why she isn't on stage, that could be the reason.
I too am leery of strippers who go from club to club as I can just imagine some of the reasons why, and not many of those reasons I can imagine are good, I also recall a girl named Loriana at FC, she went up to me and almost every other guy in the club the night I was there, decent looking but definitely high volume.
[QUOTE=SpasRhealing;5531454]Hey gents any extras / details on Raven at Coliseum. Dark hair with tattoos?? Tia.[/QUOTE]Man I'd love to sample that.
[QUOTE=MrBarton;5534414]Got a chance to check Vixen out towards the end of her shift. Extra thick borderline BBW but pretty enough. Had a nice conversation and headed to the back. Started out with some dances, first song top off, second song bottoms off. After a little more playing said she wanted to fuck and quoted $. 5. I said I wanted head too and she said sure. BBBJ was decent, but needed a little more suction. Didn't take too long before cover went on, but I honestly think she wanted to fuck. Hit it doggie and she can take a pounding.
Honestly, she's a fun time, but she's no Cashmere. That girl was a unicorn. Total freak that loved to fuck. If she would've been local I would've fucked her 7 days a week. But Vixen is a good time and I'll definitely repeat when I catch her working on day shift.[/QUOTE]Ah shit, now there is a name I haven't thought of in a while. Wonder how she's doing.
Also, I clearly need to take a trip up to see Vixen.
Friday Night.
First stop was an extremely disappointing trip to Criket's. The club went all in on thick gals. The two or three decent sized gals I might have considered, had an attitude that they didn't want to be there, so off to Henry's.
Henry's had around 8 dancers, each one more appealing than most at Criket, which isn't good for Criket. Got a dance from Vaida, who still remembered me, even though I hadn't seen in over 2 years. She had just gave birth two months ago, and it was only her 3rd day back. Vaida was not her old confident self, concerned about how her body came back from her pregnancy.
Other than some slight flab on her lower abdomen, slightly slightly above her pussy, I would not even known she had recently given birth if she hadn't told me. Her dance started was a bit awkwardly, asking a few too many times, "is this good?" or "do like that?" Eventually she got her rythme going.
Saturday I head over to the Landing Strip day shift, with only 8 dancers. Two were more in line with H8 and Bogarts, the rest among the hottest I saw the entire trip. I ask a tall blond with a decent body and C or D cup tits named Airya to stop by, and while quite friendly wanted far too much so I declined.
Thankfully, a very thin blonde, named Violet who I had met several times, but was always too busy was there. Violets's has with a tight body, the tiniest waste. Today even though she was till quite busy, I was determined to get a dance. While I waited I got some dances from a dancer I have tried before named Unique. As far as I can tell she doesn't offer extras, she's still a good warmup.
Eventually I get a dance with Violet and it was quickly obvious why she was so popular. I barely lasted five minutes under her expert oral care.
Sunday.
I head over to Flight Club, where I have had good and bad visits, including a semi decent trip in June. Today was a complete waste, and likely my last. The first few I asked were way too high even for FC. Eventually a tall hot asian dancer named Thai stopped and while starting quite high, I was surprised when she agreed to $200 for CFS. Right when things were getting good we had to stop at four when she was called to the stage. I had noticed her say something to the bouncer as we entered, so I wonder if this was some sort of scam on her end. She had only been on stage 5 or six songs earlier, so there should have been at least 15 songs before she was up again.
I head across the street to Bogarts, which had 7 dancers, ranging from an old asian dancer named Lisa Lisa, three decent looking dancers and the rest typical past their prime dancers. I get a dance from a thin dancer with a-cup natural breasts and some tattoos named Marissa. Who would be a decent 7 in any club. She orally treats me to a very good round of what she termed "foreplay" almost as good as Violet, but took her three songs to finish the deed. As I was leaving she asks me if I am staying around or leaving. I tell her, "no, you left nothing else in me. " She laughs and says "good, I like to hear that. ".
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;5537780]Friday Night.
First stop was an extremely disappointing trip to Criket's. The club went all in on thick gals. The two or three decent sized gals I might have considered, had an attitude that they didn't want to be there, so off to Henry's.
Henry's had around 8 dancers, each one more appealing than most at Criket, which isn't good for Criket. Got a dance from Vaida, who still remembered me, even though I hadn't seen in over 2 years. She had just gave birth two months ago, and it was only her 3rd day back. Vaida was not her old confident self, concerned about how her body came back from her pregnancy.
Other than some slight flab on her lower abdomen, slightly slightly above her pussy, I would not even known she had recently given birth if she hadn't told me. Her dance started was a bit awkwardly, asking a few too many times, "is this good?" or "do like that?" Eventually she got her rythme going.
Saturday I head over to the Landing Strip day shift, with only 8 dancers. Two were more in line with H8 and Bogarts, the rest among the hottest I saw the entire trip. I ask a tall blond with a decent body and C or D cup tits named Airya to stop by, and while quite friendly wanted far too much so I declined.
Thankfully, a very thin blonde, named Violet who I had met several times, but was always too busy was there. Violets's has with a tight body, the tiniest waste. Today even though she was till quite busy, I was determined to get a dance. While I waited I got some dances from a dancer I have tried before named Unique. As far as I can tell she doesn't offer extras, she's still a good warmup.
Eventually I get a dance with Violet and it was quickly obvious why she was so popular. I barely lasted five minutes under her expert oral care.
Sunday.
I head over to Flight Club, where I have had good and bad visits, including a semi decent trip in June. Today was a complete waste, and likely my last. The first few I asked were way too high even for FC. Eventually a tall hot asian dancer named Thai stopped and while starting quite high, I was surprised when she agreed to $200 for CFS. Right when things were getting good we had to stop at four when she was called to the stage. I had noticed her say something to the bouncer as we entered, so I wonder if this was some sort of scam on her end. She had only been on stage 5 or six songs earlier, so there should have been at least 15 songs before she was up again.
I head across the street to Bogarts, which had 7 dancers, ranging from an old asian dancer named Lisa Lisa, three decent looking dancers and the rest typical past their prime dancers. I get a dance from a thin dancer with a-cup natural breasts and some tattoos named Marissa. Who would be a decent 7 in any club. She orally treats me to a very good round of what she termed "foreplay" almost as good as Violet, but took her three songs to finish the deed. As I was leaving she asks me if I am staying around or leaving. I tell her, "no, you left nothing else in me. " She laughs and says "good, I like to hear that. ".[/QUOTE]Is this [URL]https://img2.lodef.net/imgs/d/c/c/9/dcc993c79ced3b1b0855e3a77347c908_f.jpg[/URL].
Is this Marissa?
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;5537780]Friday Night.
First stop was an extremely disappointing trip to Criket's. The club went all in on thick gals. The two or three decent sized gals I might have considered, had an attitude that they didn't want to be there, so off to Henry's.
Henry's had around 8 dancers, each one more appealing than most at Criket, which isn't good for Criket. Got a dance from Vaida, who still remembered me, even though I hadn't seen in over 2 years. She had just gave birth two months ago, and it was only her 3rd day back. Vaida was not her old confident self, concerned about how her body came back from her pregnancy.
Other than some slight flab on her lower abdomen, slightly slightly above her pussy, I would not even known she had recently given birth if she hadn't told me. Her dance started was a bit awkwardly, asking a few too many times, "is this good?" or "do like that?" Eventually she got her rythme going.
Saturday I head over to the Landing Strip day shift, with only 8 dancers. Two were more in line with H8 and Bogarts, the rest among the hottest I saw the entire trip. I ask a tall blond with a decent body and C or D cup tits named Airya to stop by, and while quite friendly wanted far too much so I declined.
Thankfully, a very thin blonde, named Violet who I had met several times, but was always too busy was there. Violets's has with a tight body, the tiniest waste. Today even though she was till quite busy, I was determined to get a dance. While I waited I got some dances from a dancer I have tried before named Unique. As far as I can tell she doesn't offer extras, she's still a good warmup.
Eventually I get a dance with Violet and it was quickly obvious why she was so popular. I barely lasted five minutes under her expert oral care.
Sunday.
I head over to Flight Club, where I have had good and bad visits, including a semi decent trip in June. Today was a complete waste, and likely my last. The first few I asked were way too high even for FC. Eventually a tall hot asian dancer named Thai stopped and while starting quite high, I was surprised when she agreed to $200 for CFS. Right when things were getting good we had to stop at four when she was called to the stage. I had noticed her say something to the bouncer as we entered, so I wonder if this was some sort of scam on her end. She had only been on stage 5 or six songs earlier, so there should have been at least 15 songs before she was up again.
I head across the street to Bogarts, which had 7 dancers, ranging from an old asian dancer named Lisa Lisa, three decent looking dancers and the rest typical past their prime dancers. I get a dance from a thin dancer with a-cup natural breasts and some tattoos named Marissa. Who would be a decent 7 in any club. She orally treats me to a very good round of what she termed "foreplay" almost as good as Violet, but took her three songs to finish the deed. As I was leaving she asks me if I am staying around or leaving. I tell her, "no, you left nothing else in me. " She laughs and says "good, I like to hear that. ".[/QUOTE]Does Marissa have face tats and piercings?
[QUOTE=Kesaneco;5538064]Does Marissa have face tats and piercings?[/QUOTE]Tattoos yes, but not face tats or piercings.
[QUOTE=Sid63;5537910]Is this [URL]https://img2.lodef.net/imgs/d/c/c/9/dcc993c79ced3b1b0855e3a77347c908_f.jpg[/URL].
Is this Marissa?[/QUOTE]No, that's not her. She was thin, but not nearly as than as that gal.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;5536030]I too am leery of strippers who go from club to club as I can just imagine some of the reasons why, and not many of those reasons I can imagine are good, I also recall a girl named Loriana at FC, she went up to me and almost every other guy in the club the night I was there, decent looking but definitely high volume.[/QUOTE]It depends on how often they switch clubs and what clubs they switch from. A few just either want variety, or leave a club in pursuit of more customers and money.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;5536030]I too am leery of strippers who go from club to club as I can just imagine some of the reasons why, and not many of those reasons I can imagine are good, I also recall a girl named Loriana at FC, she went up to me and almost every other guy in the club the night I was there, decent looking but definitely high volume.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of good reasons to from club to club. The new girl at a club gets all the attention and thus makes more money, maybe they are an average girl at a high end club and can make more money as the hottest girl at Bogarts, the management at these clubs are all pretty shitty so maybe she doesn't want to deal with an asshole manager, maybe a key regular customer of hers decided he likes a different club, maybe she is bouncing club to club to follow specials and the crowds, maybe different clubs have different rates for the kickback depending on the night, maybe her friend works at a different club and she wants to work with her friend.
In the end, these aren't employees. They are contractors and like contractors in any profession have no obligation to one location over another and will always chase the money. If they want loyalty from them, they need to make them actual employees like at Deja Vu.
[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;5539234]There are plenty of good reasons to from club to club. The new girl at a club gets all the attention and thus makes more money, maybe they are an average girl at a high end club and can make more money as the hottest girl at Bogarts, the management at these clubs are all pretty shitty so maybe she doesn't want to deal with an asshole manager, maybe a key regular customer of hers decided he likes a different club, maybe she is bouncing club to club to follow specials and the crowds, maybe different clubs have different rates for the kickback depending on the night, maybe her friend works at a different club and she wants to work with her friend.
In the end, these aren't employees. They are contractors and like contractors in any profession have no obligation to one location over another and will always chase the money. If they want loyalty from them, they need to make them actual employees like at Deja Vu.[/QUOTE]My experience is there are two major reason dancers change clubs.
For dancers don't provide good VIP sessions, they have used up all the customers in the current club, failed to convert enough to regulars, and are not making any money, so they move to green pastures and quickly burn through the clientele at the new club.
For dancers who do provide good VIP sessions, and have built up a regular customer base. They typically change clubs because they got into a fight with another dancer, or as a successful VIP provider the less successful girls have started stealing from her or generally harrassing her. The club management rarely deals with this kind of internal politics, and it is easier for the dancer to take a small economic hit for short time and change clubs. Once at the new club since she offers value she is able to quickly build up a loyal following there also, and in my case I will follow a good dancer from club to club.
MM.
So WTF, happened to be in Detroit this past Saturday and hit a few clubs, NO action sadly. Should have taken Carrena up when I was there earlier before the Tiger's game. Thought about stopping at The Landing Strip on the way home, parked legally on the street, started to head inside, and "Skipper" proceeds to greet me, (nice guy) and tell me that he needs my keys, that it's Mandatory valet to come inside? Well I'd had a couple Vodka Tonics, but was still clear headed, thought about it a second and said, no thanks.
WTF. I've been to clubs all over the country, never cry a tear about cover charges, VIP room charges, Watered down liquor, and over priced dances, but some dude wants my keys when I'm parked a block away, legally on a public street?
WOW, well said, almost my exact same experience at Flight Club. Yes, some beautiful girls, but how they quote $$ for a few songs and private time with a straight face is almost beyond me laughing out loud. Have had some fun on day shift there at a reasonable rate, and have gone back at night when in town, just for a few drinks but no real expectation of fun. Have not been to BT's lately, perhaps a better chance of scoring there??
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5535831]I have been to Flight Club numerous times and they have many bad policies as you described, but nothing much different than the majority of other clubs.
I typically only go once a year or so, because the prices I am quoted there are ridiculously high. Perhaps money is not an issue for you like it is for me.
There are some attractive dancers but in general I find the quality similar to bts. Many dancer dance at both Flight club and bts, or Flight club and Criket. I typically even avoid Flight Club dancers at other clubs. One of the question I like to ask girls is where else they worked and when the say Flight Club I know their expectation about price are too high and their service levels are too low. I recently met a girl at bts named Loriana she told me she was ex Flight Club, and she asked for a tip just for talking to me. I told her she should go back to Flight Club where that kind of hustle might work.
Occasionally I have had a good time at Flight Club, but typically it is with a girl I met at a different club first and then she moved to Flight Club.
If I didn't like need to negotiate with 8-10 girls to find a decent priced VIP session I would go to Flight Club more often, but the way the pricing is there it is too stressful negotiating all night and possibly walking out with out doing a VIP session.
I haven't been back since October 2020 and I did make it in the VIP that night but it was with an average looking girl who provided a horrible VIP experience.
MM.[/QUOTE]