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[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2793611]I shortened you post to the part I disagree with. So $100 is the market value of a hh and paying more is messing up things? I would love it if that was the going rate but you can't just pick a number you like and say that is what providers are worth. I am sure the guys calling and asking for a $20 special would say people paying $100 are messing things up too.
[/QUOTE]It's not picking a random number it's picking a price we're willing to pay or walk away and asking others to go along with it or something close. Although basic rules of economics don't really apply here, the market rate of a good or service is often determined by a combination of factors such as scarcity, number of customers, what customers can afford and quality. Large numbers of guys holding the line at no more than 120 for a hh with BP girls will eventually result in lower prices.

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I have heard so many providers say how much they hate lowballers.[/QUOTE]They complain about everything because most of them are entitled, have an inflated sense of self-worth and think simply posting an ad makes them a high class escort. $100/ hh is far from lowballing because even doing 3 hh / day on average (most do far more) will result in a more than reasonable living.

It's no mystery that they don't want guys negotiating or setting rates amoung ourselves since most of them are greedy and see escorting as quick and easy money.

Look pay what you want but realize that as a group we stand a better chance of getting good prices an service than we do as individuals.

[QUOTE=PangShalom;2792968]Too bad about the Katy situation. I do feel bad. Becca did help me with not beating myself over it. I know better next time than to point a girl to the boards. It's too much for a girl to handle. Guys are rough.[/QUOTE]It wasn't your fault. I saw her and her attitude was pretty shitty to begin with. It's also not like she was called dirty names. Guys just pointed out that she flakes and was not punctual. Most people don't have hours to wait around for some provider.

By the way what did you think of Becca?

[QUOTE=JonMr2015;2793897]Can someone remind me who IJE is on BP? Uncle took her pick again yesterday. Nikki??[/QUOTE]Thank looks like Sara (biker babe) also saw a AMP looks familiar is she BP girl as well?

I like Becca. She's Fayetteville mostly. When she visits our town, I visit her. Every time.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;2793935]It wasn't your fault. I saw her and her attitude was pretty shitty to begin with. It's also not like she was called dirty names. Guys just pointed out that she flakes and was not punctual. Most people don't have hours to wait around for some provider.

By the way what did you think of Becca?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ILoveDeams;2793936]Thank looks like Sara (biker babe) also saw a AMP looks familiar is she BP girl as well?[/QUOTE]

Edit: Removing my comment about AMP for my own safety. Indirectly knows who I am thanks to members here.

Edit: Can't believe IJE got booked again, had just seen her booked for walking her pet demon.

I had a dream with the provider below, but in Tampa. I have family there so I go quite often. I'm not saying she isn't here visiting, and it wasn't. 4 when I saw her. I would recommend her if the pics aren't stolen. We live in an age of advanced transportation, but unless teleportation is available I think her being here is highly unlikely. Good luck hunting.

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[QUOTE=ILoveDeams;2791098]Thanks for TOFTT. Good job bud!! What was the damage?[/QUOTE]100 QV. It lasted about 20 minutes.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;2793933]It's not picking a random number it's picking a price we're willing to pay or walk away and asking others to go along with it or something close. Although basic rules of economics don't really apply here, the market rate of a good or service is often determined by a combination of factors such as scarcity, number of customers, what customers can afford and quality. Large numbers of guys holding the line at no more than 120 for a hh with BP girls will eventually result in lower prices.

They complain about everything because most of them are entitled, have an inflated sense of self-worth and think simply posting an ad makes them a high class escort. $100/ hh is far from lowballing because even doing 3 hh / day on average (most do far more) will result in a more than reasonable living.

It's no mystery that they don't want guys negotiating or setting rates amoung ourselves since most of them are greedy and see escorting as quick and easy money.

Look pay what you want but realize that as a group we stand a better chance of getting good prices an service than we do as individuals.[/QUOTE]I agree with this response more. Well justified the reason we should all stand together to keep it max 120 for hh. It's definitely not low balling. Guys, I have seen amazing low volume providers for 100. Awesome GFE, fresh, clean repeated many times and attitude never change. Don't PM me asking me for reference. It's not here in Raleigh. And if you must know, I have seen a 2 girls Misty and Holly where charlotte have a seperate thread for them. They both are the most beautiful girls and it's a jackpot if you get to see them. I see them in their apartment for both of them unbelievable porn star experience for 140. Ofcourse they knows their worth. They charge $300 for qv. But I talked out of them, and once they see me and the way I treat them being nice and everything, they reciprocate. It's extremely unfortunate for charlotte mongers that these girls quit and got into their life. I am happy for them though. As long as they were there, I have seen them and kept them busy. Most amazing experience. One of them looks exactly like cameron diaz, other one has beautiful rack, amazing tummy, they both are bi. Ok, I can't sleep nowthinkign about them.

Point is, we can work together to make this happen. 120 is not at all bad.

When you lowball a good provider, please don't come here to ***** about how shitty the service was. Chances are she gave you shitty service on purpose. Sure, some girls have entitlement issues but this doesn't apply to all of them. There are GOOD providers that are worth every penny they command. If you cannot afford such providers, then you have to slum it, just don't ***** about the slum because it is what it is.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;2793933]It's not picking a random number it's picking a price we're willing to pay or walk away and asking others to go along with it or something close. Although basic rules of economics don't really apply here, the market rate of a good or service is often determined by a combination of factors such as scarcity, number of customers, what customers can afford and quality. Large numbers of guys holding the line at no more than 120 for a hh with BP girls will eventually result in lower prices.

They complain about everything because most of them are entitled, have an inflated sense of self-worth and think simply posting an ad makes them a high class escort. $100/ hh is far from lowballing because even doing 3 hh / day on average (most do far more) will result in a more than reasonable living.

It's no mystery that they don't want guys negotiating or setting rates amoung ourselves since most of them are greedy and see escorting as quick and easy money.

Look pay what you want but realize that as a group we stand a better chance of getting good prices an service than we do as individuals.[/QUOTE]

I can see it now. Hooker Hobbyist anonymous meetings. Give me a break. Nobody is going to "work together".

As long as their is available cooter and johns willing to pay, you'll never control the price.

On another note, this video reminded me of a lot of you dudes here.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPMRvPr6MFM[/URL]

[QUOTE=MikeLittle;2794170]I agree with this response more. Well justified the reason we should all stand together to keep it max 120 for hh. It's definitely not low balling. Guys, I have seen amazing low volume providers for 100. Awesome GFE, fresh, clean repeated many times and attitude never change. Don't PM me asking me for reference. It's not here in Raleigh. And if you must know, I have seen a 2 girls Misty and Holly where charlotte have a seperate thread for them. They both are the most beautiful girls and it's a jackpot if you get to see them. I see them in their apartment for both of them unbelievable porn star experience for 140. Ofcourse they knows their worth. They charge $300 for qv. But I talked out of them, and once they see me and the way I treat them being nice and everything, they reciprocate. It's extremely unfortunate for charlotte mongers that these girls quit and got into their life. I am happy for them though. As long as they were there, I have seen them and kept them busy. Most amazing experience. One of them looks exactly like cameron diaz, other one has beautiful rack, amazing tummy, they both are bi. Ok, I can't sleep nowthinkign about them.

Point is, we can work together to make this happen. 120 is not at all bad.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JonMr2015;2793897]Can someone remind me who IJE is on BP? Uncle took her pick again yesterday. Nikki??[/QUOTE]Also NAL (miami) 2/11/16. Please include a date with initials. Much easier to find.

[QUOTE=MrSmithwick;2794197]I can see it now. Hooker Hobbyist anonymous meetings. Give me a break. Nobody is going to "work together".

As long as their is available cooter and johns willing to pay, you'll never control the price.

On another note, this video reminded me of a lot of you dudes here.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPMRvPr6MFM[/URL][/QUOTE]If what you are saying is true, then this board is unnecessary to share reports, and so rip off reports thread. Video demonstration is good. Except that ***** got an attitude. If you are a businessman who would walk into a car show room and keep your mouth closed and just pay the price of an luxury car -well it perhaps suits you. Not everyone of us. I do negotiate, and I don't care. And my negotiation is FAIR. I don't ask for $20 ride neither a free ride. It's not being cheap but being cautious. I myself got ripped off several times. Doesn't matter if I see a lot or new to this hobby. There are ladies who charge premium price and say bye bye. So it's not just money is the reason we have YMMV. Anyways, it's not worth arguing on this point.

To keep it straight.

I would pay $. 8 for hh with Noa, and 3 or 4 for an hour. Because they value my time, don't flake, provide a class experience.

I would NOT pay 2 for hh with Jewels even if that pu $$why is made of gold. It's not because of the service or appearance. It's overall attitude. Overall experience. Where she stays. How clean she keep up with the room. List goes on. So she is a $100 provider.

Hope it make sense now. If not, that's fine. Because when I say we work together it's just a saying. Doesn't actually mean we all can meet at a bar and discuss over this. Seriously?

[QUOTE=MrSmithwick;2794197]I can see it now. Hooker Hobbyist anonymous meetings. Give me a break. Nobody is going to "work together".

As long as their is available cooter and johns willing to pay, you'll never control the price.
[/QUOTE]I got to agree with SmithWick here. I've been on the other end with providers plenty of times when they are holding the phone next to me and texting back mongers and I've seen it in front of my eyes where providers will text back and say, I can't right now, I already have an appointment. Text from a monger comes back, forget him, I'll give you $$. 5 Previous guy who is halfway there is cancelled.

I've also been with providers get call after call with guys only willing to give up. 4 and the depending on the girl she insists, "No, . 6 or. 8 or $ is the lowest I can go" It is really fucking tiresome for them. But from what I am hearing I guess they give in or at least a steep discount is had a lot of times.

Since diametrically opposed strategies work for different mongers I doubt we will be working together anytime soon.

[QUOTE=FatLever;2794232]I got to agree with SmithWick here. I've been on the other end with providers plenty of times when they are holding the phone next to me and texting back mongers and I've seen it in front of my eyes where providers will text back and say, I can't right now, I already have an appointment. Text from a monger comes back, forget him, I'll give you $$. 5 Previous guy who is halfway there is cancelled.

I've also been with providers get call after call with guys only willing to give up. 4 and the depending on the girl she insists, "No, . 6 or. 8 or $ is the lowest I can go" It is really fucking tiresome for them. But from what I am hearing I guess they give in or at least a steep discount is had a lot of times.

Since diametrically opposed strategies work for different mongers I doubt we will be working together anytime soon.[/QUOTE]We can close this topic and points noted. Thank you!

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