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Courtney at Panacea
[QUOTE=BenNorth;5870262]I have been to Panacea once before and had a great experience. So when I found myself in the neighborhood with some free time the other day I decided to drop in and grab a quick massage. I drew Courtney for a half hour and it was a pretty disappointing experience. She talked tip almost as soon as she walked in the door and wanted $150 for nude HJ with the price going up from there. I told her that wasn't happening, she got a little snippy with me but we did settle on $80 for a topless HJ. Hindsight I should have walked but was already there and in the mood. Lesson learned.
She gave me the most lackluster massage I have ever received and didn't say a word to me other than flip over. And while I know we are not necessarily there for the massage but it is nice when a little effort is put into it. I am not sure if that's normal for her or only because I wouldn't give agree to her initial rate. The HJ was fine but I was pretty turned off at this point. She sort of cleaned me up, again all without speaking and then left. I got dressed and saw my way out. I am not writing off Panacea by any means but definitely will never see her again and will be sure to see only reviewed girls from now on.
BenNorth.[/QUOTE]When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, fiv, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.
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Panacea
[QUOTE=Gene2;5870576]Every once in a while I get to feeling a bit taken for granted at my personal favorite spot, BodyworkByUs. Not often, but it happens. It's probably just me. Maybe I can't get an appointment scheduled with my selected girl, or maybe I have to wait hours for a response.
But then a post like this comes along, and reminds me that all is well in my world. I have so many selections available at BBU. And all of them play by the same rules with regard to costs. It's kind of exciting to see a new girl, but if the experience is simply a negotiation, that's just not what I'm after. My life is full of negotiating and deals. I want to escape the reality for 45 minutes of pure enjoyment and pleasure and fantasy.
To hear that negotiating results in a salty provider speaks to me. And it says "stay away". And I guess that's what makes this board so helpful.
So thanks for posting this review. I will take a hard no pass on Courtney, or anyone else at Panacea who hasn't been reviewed and cleared as a "non-negotiator."
I'm hitting the BBU website now and getting an appointment scheduled!
G2.[/QUOTE]Yes, definitely lesson learned. I am still relatively new to this so I appreciate all the advice that has been given. This board has been incredibly helpful and has given me the confidence to walk out should it ever happen again. Sometimes its hard to pass on the excitement of someone new. I won't write off Panacea but I will stick with girls who have been reviewed in the positive.
Thanks and stay safe everyone.
Ben.
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[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5871617]When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, fiv, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.[/QUOTE]You should go to bodywork's by us.
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[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;5871617]When will these girls ever learn? WTF!! I've said it a million times, the girls that make the most money at these parlors are the ones that never EVER bring up tip amounts during the session, it's such a mood killer! Natasha was the absolute best that Panacea ever had and that girl couldn't even fit all the cash in her purse at the end of each work day. She never ever even said the word tip and she got completely comfortable right at the start without having to ask her to and she knew how to be sexy and have a playful time that kept all of us cumming back, day after day, week after week! The door fee of either 50 hh, or 80 hour should automatically include getting completely nude and the HE. The extra tipping comes into play when there is complete roaming, FIV, face sitting, etc. And sometimes more. P.S. I always match the door fee and always get what I think is fun and fair for me and the lady.[/QUOTE]I've heard Courtney no longer works at Panacea!
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Amy at Asian Ivy AMP
The location is a directly across from Mediterranean island on Kalamazoo near 44th. Was interested in trying the table shower and meeting Amy for the first time based on previous good reports. I scheduled with Amy using the main website phone number and by text only. No issues with the arrangements, starting on time or the amount of time. All were as expected. The table shower was nice and for a 20 min body wash at 10, it was worth it. I followed this with a 60 min massage typical real massage you expect from an AMP with oil and deep with forearms used. I established a friendly rapport during the shower that carried into the massage. What you often expect from an AMP is a legit massage and the HE is a very mechanical bang-it-out session. I heard Amy was different. Better. I can report IMO, she was fantastic. Slow and attentive. You don't really get the GFE and a lot of talking like you would at BBW, but is a great option if you really need the massage and want an quality HE. Never a request for tip, but I like to give freely for excellent service. Total: table shower 10, 60 min 60 (70 up front), tip 40. YMMV, but suggest being kind and respectful. Works for me.
Cheers and stay safe! Tdawg.
[URL]https://www.asianivymassage.com/[/URL]
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Stand up shower
Anybody know if there's and MT, AMP or otherwise, that offers standup shower with pre-game warmup? Either in GR or Lansing? Feel free to PM me.
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Lauren
[QUOTE=WestMI;5871107]Anyone know what has happened to Lauren? She has been MIA now into this second week. She okay?[/QUOTE]Lauren told me she was going on vacation the last time I seen her which was a few weeks ago.
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LA Spa
[QUOTE=LandRover20;5872609]Anybody know if there's and MT, AMP or otherwise, that offers standup shower with pre-game warmup? Either in GR or Lansing? Feel free to PM me.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there, they had a stand up shower and were quite attentive. It's been a few years so you may want to confirm with others. It's at exit #73 on I-96 in Portland. You can't miss it.
Simon.
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Specific requeat
[QUOTE=Swcdt;5870679]I quit doing walkins at Panacea over a year ago because of problems like this. So then I figured I will just call ahead to see who is working and setup an appointment. But everytime I call to ask who is working they get kinda pissy like you're bugging them or something. So. Now I don't go there at all. There's a few good ones there that I do miss seeing. But there's too many other good options in town to deal with rudeness on the phone or terrible service on a walkin.[/QUOTE]
I've been wondering how to deal with this myself. When I used to frequent Panacea I'd call and ask for someone in particular, either because of previous good reviews or good past experience, but usually just to avoid a poor past experience provider. If she wasn't available, I'd ask who's available, and I'd get that pissy or rude attitude. So then I'd basically take who was available; a few were good, some with an attitude. Like you I now refuse to patronize Panacea: high price to value, poor attitudes, talk of and expectations of tips, poor massage skills, etc.
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Asian Ivy. Worth it
It's been a while since I tried the place. Staff has not been consistent. Recently tried and had a great massage. Full time given. Great Asian traditional massage. Great technique on the final few minutes. Definitely a pro. $60 door plus tip. All worth it. You'll float out of there. She's no spring chicken but amazing hands. So strong and smooth.
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Jasmine at Luxe
She's a gem. Down to earth, easy conversation and fantastic body. Setup was simple, new location is good. The building itself has a lot of businesses in it but the room was easy to find. The massage was above average. Worked my whole body and took her time to flip which I appreciated. On the flip, lots of more massaging and clothes coming off. Tits are fantastic. The massage / tease at the point could have gone the whole session and she wanted me to let her know when I was ready which was nice instead of slipping and going right to it.
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Asian Ivy. Agree
[QUOTE=Bham07;5873362]It's been a while since I tried the place. Staff has not been consistent. Recently tried and had a great massage. Full time given. Great Asian traditional massage. Great technique on the final few minutes. Definitely a pro. $60 door plus tip. All worth it. You'll float out of there. She's no spring chicken but amazing hands. So strong and smooth.[/QUOTE]Agree with you, Bham. Best AMP option in GR if you're looking for a great Therapeutic Massage. Don't get me wrong, I love Brit And the BBW girls, but you aren't there for a deep tissue massage. A different goal. And as a benefit, Asian Ivy is best AMP HE I've experienced in GR to date. Wasn't the quick jack hammer but slow build with some edging. Amy was probably late 30's which is relatively young for what you often find in an AMP. Allowed some nice under clothing roaming as well. They all claim they're 35, but I suspect many are closer to 60. LOL. Check my review from yesterday.
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Arii
Try to see Ari. She replied and said she was working today. Said she had a Private Studio near Pacific. Well made appointment at 11:30 am. Ask for address but no response. Went down the crossroads she mentioned and texted her again and no response after that. Ghosted. Not sure if it was really Ari or someone else using her ad. But it was the 313 number from her ad.
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Relax Massage
After Arii not working out I headed to Relax but ended up disappointed. Tried to go to healing hands but the parking lot was full(Saw 2 dudes in trucks pull up at the same time so decided not to go there as it was busy) I got the same older asian lady from last time visit to Relax. I kinda feel like some of the younger girls left. Last three times got older ladies and there still wearing mask. Next time will probably try Asian Ivey or go to Tuina instead.
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Eris and Kenzie
Hey,
I had another fantastic visit with Eris recently, and wanted to pass along the good word and some fun news.
So if you haven't seen her recently, go. As fun as ever, and the new place is great, very well done. Comfortable, modern, cool. Eris just seems to get more fun and relaxing with every visit. And I believe she has some time available tomorrow, Saturday. She's not in on the weekends very often, so for those of us who have the best opportunity to visit on the weekend, now might be a great chance to see her.
And also, Eris' sister Kenzie is back. She was in briefly this week, and is planning to take duos on Wednesdays over the next few weeks. Definitely check her out, she is amazing.