General Reports

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;6281988]For a bit of nostalgia, when the USA Adult Classifieds was an invaluable ad resource up to May 2020. This is a rate guide that I collected informally by surveying providers who advertised there. The average half hour rate was 120 and full hour rate was 175 (the QV rate was not captured). The most common provider requests were 100 for half hour and 200 for full hour. It's a small trip down the rate memory lane.

Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,. ,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]On that pic of the high end, who is above CC and to the left of Torri? Looks familiar and can't tell exactly who it is.

[QUOTE=DrJack51;6282357]On that pic of the high end, who is above CC and to the left of Torri? Looks familiar and can't tell exactly who it is.[/QUOTE]That higher-end rate would be "Sabrina/SabrinaKnox". I used to see her for 100 .,.,.,., unlimited time, including hanging out in downtown Knoxville, when she was on SA before going mainstream (she began demanding 250 for a single hour after going pro).

Happy hunting. ,. ,. ,. ,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=DosenJager;6281998]Do you negotiate? For me, if they post a price and it is equal to the offering I go with that or move on. What I am not doing is haggling and I am very experienced in haggling because I feel even if you work down the price they just reduce the offering. Better to move on to another offering and not create a sullen date or use a different location with more competition.

Maybe I have been doing it wrong? Maybe I am denying my value as a monger to play into the value equation and I have been denying providers with another signal that they are not the worth what they are posting. Or I need counter offer on the time, offering, ect. I'd like to hear how many of you haggle vs. How many move demand away to another provider or service type.[/QUOTE]Too many white Knights have catered to these providers, thinking they will get one up on the next man, when really, all he is doing is playing himself by being a providers lackey. We need to put the power back in our hands because we have the money. Look at these girls overall. . is anyone of them really worth $150/ hhr or $200/ hr? Contact them and offer them a more reasonable rate, and if they refuse, let them starve. They will eventually get desperate for their next fix and accept the offer. Too many guys have forgotten that in this game, money is king. That's why these girls are doing it, for the money. They either want what's being offered or they can go without. These prices are out of hand, its time for us to take control back. If not, prices are only going to get worse.

[QUOTE=DosenJager;6281998]Do you negotiate? For me, if they post a price and it is equal to the offering I go with that or move on. What I am not doing is haggling and I am very experienced in haggling because I feel even if you work down the price they just reduce the offering. Better to move on to another offering and not create a sullen date or use a different location with more competition.

Maybe I have been doing it wrong? Maybe I am denying my value as a monger to play into the value equation and I have been denying providers with another signal that they are not the worth what they are posting. Or I need counter offer on the time, offering, ect. I'd like to hear how many of you haggle vs. How many move demand away to another provider or service type.[/QUOTE]Honestly man, call it what you want. At least in my mind, "haggling" is not what I am doing. To me, I am simply making an offer. I do not low-ball the girls, I do not raise my offer, I simply make an offer. If it is accepted, great.

To be bluntly honest, initially I get laughed at or insulted about 50 percent of the time-initially. It's cool. My psyche is not one that gives much credence or weight to working girls trying to pry more money out of me.

Pretty much every time (with a few exceptions of course), I get a text within a day or two telling me my offer is Ok and asking when I can meet-for them preferably ASAP.

Once the deal is done, if it's worth repeating-that price is locked in with the provider for a while. Honestly, I haven't noticed any major differences in performance. Those who have done well are generally the ones who get good reviews from the rest of the board. Those who have half assed it are generally those who get poor reviews from other members also.

People paying whatever the girls ask is how we got in this mess of fat or otherwise defective girls demanding $120 for a half assed Qv. As I said in another post recently, I don't even blame the girls. Guys are the ones responsible for this point blank.

Could I pay them more without impacting me? Of course. Will I? Nope. Everything for me has a value. When that value is exceeded by the asking price, I simply don't buy. Very simple. If I am truly desperate, this is East TN. You can't throw a rock around here without hitting a larger girl in need of some loving. By that I mean girls who are by today's vernacular, a bit "thick". I don't mess around with true fat asses. Little charm can go a long way. Usually, they cook me a nice dinner. My "expenses" are more often than not gas to go there and back.

[QUOTE=Tommy5888;6281599]Met up with the one and only Britt recently. Lovely as always.[/QUOTE]Tommy, sent you a PM. Please LMK Thanks.

[QUOTE=Enigma2015;6282455]Too many white Knights have catered to these providers, thinking they will get one up on the next man, when really, all he is doing is playing himself by being a providers lackey. We need to put the power back in our hands because we have the money. Look at these girls overall. . is anyone of them really worth $150/ hhr or $200/ hr? Contact them and offer them a more reasonable rate, and if they refuse, let them starve. They will eventually get desperate for their next fix and accept the offer. Too many guys have forgotten that in this game, money is king. That's why these girls are doing it, for the money. They either want what's being offered or they can go without. These prices are out of hand, its time for us to take control back. If not, prices are only going to get worse.[/QUOTE]My personal opinion is I'm willing to pay more for quality. If girls who are missing teeth, over weight, & cracked out are charging 80-100 for a QV, then I actually feel like I'm getting a discount when I girl who is legitimately hot as hell only charges 120-140 for a qv. I've met girls that were NOT my type & felt like I over paid big time & I've met girls that are knockouts who only charge a little more & sometimes even less. I'm not very active in the hobby, but I feel the junkie girls getting too much just drives up the cost of the hot girls in the hobby.

[QUOTE=KnoxDiggler;6282731]My personal opinion is I'm willing to pay more for quality. If girls who are missing teeth, over weight, & cracked out are charging 80-100 for a QV, then I actually feel like I'm getting a discount when I girl who is legitimately hot as hell only charges 120-140 for a qv. I've met girls that were NOT my type & felt like I over paid big time & I've met girls that are knockouts who only charge a little more & sometimes even less. I'm not very active in the hobby, but I feel the junkie girls getting too much just drives up the cost of the hot girls in the hobby.[/QUOTE]Honestly man, I have mongered around the world. Probably including a few places most people never heard of.

Fifteen years ago, I coulda told you about any one of 100 cities around the world where a man could secure a knockout (by Knox standards) companion for the night for $20 or so plus a $10 tip in the morning if sbe knocked your socks off.

Cheap, clean hotel with AC for about the same price. Beers were like $1 or so. You literally could have an all night threesome with as many pops as you could muster and still spend under $100 a day including your hotel. Nowadays it's a different game. Go to those places today and you might get a quicky for $100. The cheap but effective hotels gone and replaced by $300/ night resorts. Why? I mean some of it is the passage of time, but most of it lies with the consumer. Guys were happy to play with a knockout for pennies, but things changed. People became more expecting and depending on luxury.

In the parlance of overseas mongering, you would be referred to as a "2 week millionaire". Somebody who wants EXACTLY what you want-damn the price. It's cool, I get it. You have a great trip, go back the next year and the prices are like 50% more and so on and so forth. Eventually, you can't even afford to vacation there and live like a "2 week millionaire" any longer, so you stop going. Then you sit around and ***** about how expensive things have gotten when you are the reason for the increases.

Prices never go down in the mongering world once they are established and seemingly accepted by the consumer. Simple economics.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting or anything. Just seen this scenario play out before my very eyes more times than I can count.

FYI-in most of the spots I am referring to-there is a decent expat community. They still get the goods for about $20 when a tourist is most likely going to have to pay hundreds. Why? Because time is on their side. Never underestimate the power of time my friend. Money gets tight and their expectations plummet faster than a girls panties after prom These same girls you are paying $150 for a few minutes of their time are most likely fucking many guys like me for much, much cheaper. Can also tell you 90%+ of the working girls in this city have major drug issues, whether they are obvious or not-including some of the higher end girls. Some are just better at hiding it than others


Once again, no offense intended. Treat any posts here by me or anyone with a grain of salt. Just my two cents if you will on the situation. What works for me may not work for others, but at the end of the day any contribution I have made to the skyrocketing price problem has been nil.

[QUOTE=AcquaDeJim;6282995]Honestly man, I have mongered around the world. Probably including a few places most people never heard of.

Fifteen years ago, I coulda told you about any one of 100 cities around the world where a man could secure a knockout (by Knox standards) companion for the night for $20 or so plus a $10 tip in the morning if sbe knocked your socks off.

Cheap, clean hotel with AC for about the same price. Beers were like $1 or so. You literally could have an all night threesome with as many pops as you could muster and still spend under $100 a day including your hotel. Nowadays it's a different game. Go to those places today and you might get a quicky for $100. The cheap but effective hotels gone and replaced by $300/ night resorts. Why? I mean some of it is the passage of time, but most of it lies with the consumer. Guys were happy to play with a knockout for pennies, but things changed. People became more expecting and depending on luxury.

In the parlance of overseas mongering, you would be referred to as a "2 week millionaire". Somebody who wants EXACTLY what you want-damn the price. It's cool, I get it. You have a great trip, go back the next year and the prices are like 50% more and so on and so forth. Eventually, you can't even afford to vacation there and live like a "2 week millionaire" any longer, so you stop going. Then you sit around and ***** about how expensive things have gotten when you are the reason for the increases.

Prices never go down in the mongering world once they are established and seemingly accepted by the consumer. Simple economics.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be insulting or anything. Just seen this scenario play out before my very eyes more times than I can count.

FYI-in most of the spots I am referring to-there is a decent expat community. They still get the goods for about $20 when a tourist is most likely going to have to pay hundreds. Why? Because time is on their side. Never underestimate the power of time my friend. Money gets tight and their expectations plummet faster than a girls panties after prom These same girls you are paying $150 for a few minutes of their time are most likely fucking many guys like me for much, much cheaper. Can also tell you 90%+ of the working girls in this city have major drug issues, whether they are obvious or not-including some of the higher end girls. Some are just better at hiding it than others


Once again, no offense intended. Treat any posts here by me or anyone with a grain of salt. Just my two cents if you will on the situation. What works for me may not work for others, but at the end of the day any contribution I have made to the skyrocketing price problem has been nil.[/QUOTE]AcquaDeJim, Well said, completely agree.

H19.

[QUOTE=Tommy5888;6281599]Met up with the one and only Britt recently. Lovely as always.[/QUOTE]Is this the same britt that used to work out of her appt on papermill while her BF was at work? I saw her a few times back in 2018 or 19 then she dropped off. If we are talking about the same girl I would love to get back in touch.

Can you guess some of my favs.

Damn. What happened 😭.

[QUOTE=Harleysg;6287448]Is this the same britt that used to work out of her appt on papermill while her BF was at work? I saw her a few times back in 2018 or 19 then she dropped off. If we are talking about the same girl I would love to get back in touch.[/QUOTE]This is Britt's Ex trying to get info. Tommy58888.

[QUOTE=WhiskySellar;6289610]This is Britt's Ex trying to get info. Tommy58888.[/QUOTE]Which Britney are we talking about there's way too many of them as well as ambers and the other one that everybody's referring to is red maybe we need to start giving identification numbers out of their name like Amber 1 Amber 2 Amber 3.

Hey this is to the guy I had a3 some with dee. I lost your number please text me. Thanks.

Hey I'm looking for a cool new bi friend. So if you are interested let me know.