General Reports

Okay. So this isn't a typical monger report. I have a legit friend I am seeing almost every day. Mentioned her before. Devout Buddhist and got robbed a couple weeks back. Today was her day off and I took her to the Chicago Art Institute. I am very glad I did. I never saw anybody so enthralled with the place. Giddy, actually. Took her to the Chinese artwork (of course) and the Buddhist artwork. Modern art. French Impressionists. American Realists. She loves nature and paintings of nature. So I showed her that sort of stuff. I suppose most people know the Chicago Art Institute is one of the great art museums in the world. So I told her, before she moves away. Before she returns to China, I wanted to leave her with a special memory. It is interesting to see a person from the other side of the world enjoying the same things that we enjoy. Sort of a universal language. Yeah we did kiss in some dark corners of the museum.

Now, one other thing you should know. Admission is [U]free for Illinois residents[/U] until Feb 11, weekdays. Best deal I can think of. Normally $25 per person.

Now did I get laid after going there? No. At least not yet. But if you have a friend and you want to do something nice on their day off. Consider the Art Institute. Bob.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2753314]Okay. So this isn't a typical monger report. I have a legit friend I am seeing almost every day. Mentioned her before. Devout Buddhist and got robbed a couple weeks back. Today was her day off and I took her to the Chicago Art Institute. I am very glad I did. I never saw anybody so enthralled with the place. Giddy, actually. Took her to the Chinese artwork (of course) and the Buddhist artwork. Modern art. French Impressionists. American Realists. She loves nature and paintings of nature. So I showed her that sort of stuff. I suppose most people know the Chicago Art Institute is one of the great art museums in the world. So I told her, before she moves away. Before she returns to China, I wanted to leave her with a special memory. It is interesting to see a person from the other side of the world enjoying the same things that we enjoy. Sort of a universal language. Yeah we did kiss in some dark corners of the museum.

Now, one other thing you should know. Admission is [U]free for Illinois residents[/U] until Feb 11, weekdays. Best deal I can think of. Normally $25 per person.

Now did I get laid after going there? No. At least not yet. But if you have a friend and you want to do something nice on their day off. Consider the Art Institute. Bob.[/QUOTE]Geeze, Bob, This belongs in the Christian Mingle section. Your affections are going in the direction of dating or LT relationship. I guess we all have to draw our own line when it comes to respect and developing a relationship with a provider. Personally, I prefer to have a connection with a provider but I don't ever want it to become something that is so comfortable that I feel as though I could take her home to meet mom.

Maybe the real test for you is 1) have you told her about your previous mongering activities? And 2) does she know (or have you continued) to seek relief from other providers?

Yeah. You are right. I have not come clean about any of my activities with any person about any other person. So clearly my moral compass is broken. The only honest thing I have done is tell each one I am married and that we can't ever go beyond being friends. This friend has told me she will leave Chicago some day. So, in this case we both understand the relationship is temporary. Correctly, this is not mongering, so I accept your points 100%.

My real motivation in writing the post was to mention the free admission to the Art Institute for the next 30 days. A few guys have told me take girls out on their day off. Normally, this place is a bit expensive. But now it is free. Who knows how many massage girls care about art. But I was astonished at the way this outing affected my friend. Maybe somebody else will discover the same thing with their friend. That was my only motivation. Bob.

[QUOTE=Truthfu11;2753514]Geeze, Bob, This belongs in the Christian Mingle section. Your affections are going in the direction of dating or LT relationship. I guess we all have to draw our own line when it comes to respect and developing a relationship with a provider. Personally, I prefer to have a connection with a provider but I don't ever want it to become something that is so comfortable that I feel as though I could take her home to meet mom.

Maybe the real test for you is 1) have you told her about your previous mongering activities? And 2) does she know (or have you continued) to seek relief from other providers?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;2753563]Yeah. You are right. I have not come clean about any of my activities with any person about any other person. So clearly my moral compass is broken. The only honest thing I have done is tell each one I am married and that we can't ever go beyond being friends. This friend has told me she will leave Chicago some day. So, in this case we both understand the relationship is temporary. Correctly, this is not mongering, so I accept your points 100%.

My real motivation in writing the post was to mention the free admission to the Art Institute for the next 30 days. A few guys have told me take girls out on their day off. Normally, this place is a bit expensive. But now it is free. Who knows how many massage girls care about art. But I was astonished at the way this outing affected my friend. Maybe somebody else will discover the same thing with their friend. That was my only motivation. Bob.[/QUOTE]I like the way you think! Quick real story w / o the blah blah blahs (which I do get carried away!) Met a pro on eros when I first came to chi (from the burbs. But born here). Played the usual back and forth emails, calls then decided not to engage in her services. Actually we became email / phone friends (I was given certain details about her real life, guessed the rest). Well in reality she had no real friends. Just tricks. And of course fam that didn't know about her "life". Well I bought her a pair of jimmy choo heels (not cheap by any means). She bought me a nice gold bracelet. Then I took her out on a nice real date on thanksgiving. Treated her like a woman and not a provider. Spent good money, tipped well and she loved every minute of it! Was it real? Not really real because I knew of her as a hooker and that is how we met! I applaud what some of you guys are doing by treating these providers like women when it applies!

[QUOTE=Bob521;2753563]Yeah. You are right. I have not come clean about any of my activities with any person about any other person. So clearly my moral compass is broken. The only honest thing I have done is tell each one I am married and that we can't ever go beyond being friends. This friend has told me she will leave Chicago some day. So, in this case we both understand the relationship is temporary. Correctly, this is not mongering, so I accept your points 100%.

My real motivation in writing the post was to mention the free admission to the Art Institute for the next 30 days. A few guys have told me take girls out on their day off. Normally, this place is a bit expensive. But now it is free. Who knows how many massage girls care about art. But I was astonished at the way this outing affected my friend. Maybe somebody else will discover the same thing with their friend. That was my only motivation. Bob.[/QUOTE]As you mentioned, The Art Institute is a world-class art destination. It's very, very popular and visitors from overseas are always thrilled to see the collection.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2753563]Yeah. You are right. I have not come clean about any of my activities with any person about any other person. So clearly my moral compass is broken. The only honest thing I have done is tell each one I am married and that we can't ever go beyond being friends. This friend has told me she will leave Chicago some day. So, in this case we both understand the relationship is temporary. Correctly, this is not mongering, so I accept your points 100%.

My real motivation in writing the post was to mention the free admission to the Art Institute for the next 30 days. A few guys have told me take girls out on their day off. Normally, this place is a bit expensive. But now it is free. Who knows how many massage girls care about art. But I was astonished at the way this outing affected my friend. Maybe somebody else will discover the same thing with their friend. That was my only motivation. Bob.[/QUOTE]Bob, I think we all have a broken compass that does not point true north.

If I am not mistaken, the AIC has free Wednesdays all year around. Maybe not appropriate for an Asian national, but Hot Wok Cold Sushi across the street is a great place for lunch before or after your visit to AIC.

Perhaps worth viewing with your "not so domestic" partner is the Netsuke collection or other erotic art throughout the museum. Might get her curiosity peaked. LOL. Maybe we need a mongers night out event!

OMG. Maybe Professor Dart might read this thread and find some socially redeeming benefits of mongering!

[QUOTE=Riina;2752317]Guys, I have a hobbyist dilemma. With all these fresh off the boat Euros I meet, the opportunity to raw dog their outside keeps presenting itself. I'm very comfortable with the risks of BBBJ but genital to genital contact is just not sitting well with me. It feels so right during the moment and so wrong when driving away. The thing is that when they allow it, they like it and get really turned on making for a hot session.

What do you guys think? I'm under the impression if it feels wrong, it probably is wrong.[/QUOTE]Just to be clear, I meant rubbing and sliding my raw penis on the outside of a girls pussy. Nobody at 262 or 323 has ever offered me bareback vaginal sex.

[QUOTE=Riina;2753856]Just to be clear, I meant rubbing and sliding my raw penis on the outside of a girls pussy. Nobody at 262 or 323 has ever offered me bareback vaginal sex.[/QUOTE]Riina, if you're that close to her bun warmer you might as well go all the way in. If it was me I'd go right in. Not judging on the aspects of BBFS. Just saying.

I have never understood why any hobbyist would want to have any genital contact without a cover. I get the feelings of skin to skin are better and that's exactly why you can have that type of experience with your spouse / gf / fwb. Whatever. I'd never, ever do it with a play friend in the hobby. BBBJ I feel differently about. Although there are still risks, they are more manageable for me. Do what you're comfortable with but the smart thing is to always use a cover and don't let yourself get carried away in the moment.

[QUOTE=Riina;2752317]Guys, I have a hobbyist dilemma. With all these fresh off the boat Euros I meet, the opportunity to raw dog their outside keeps presenting itself. I'm very comfortable with the risks of BBBJ but genital to genital contact is just not sitting well with me. It feels so right during the moment and so wrong when driving away. The thing is that when they allow it, they like it and get really turned on making for a hot session.

What do you guys think? I'm under the impression if it feels wrong, it probably is wrong.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member202;2756775]I have never understood why any hobbyist would want to have any genital contact without a cover. I get the feelings of skin to skin are better and that's exactly why you can have that type of experience with your spouse / gf / fwb. Whatever. I'd never, ever do it with a play friend in the hobby. BBBJ I feel differently about. Although there are still risks, they are more manageable for me. Do what you're comfortable with but the smart thing is to always use a cover and don't let yourself get carried away in the moment.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I will follow your advice.

Guys, yesterday I met 262 Inessa and I have to say that I have never been so emotionally connected from paid fun in this country. We are like two young girls talking about girls, boys, and sex. Chemistry aside, she gives the best covered BJ ever. It's better than Megans and I would prefer it over the Ava Alex uncovered. She is considering porn and when you get the blowjob, you can understand why.

She was a lost soul when she arrived to the scene. She knew that she was young and sexual but she did not know she had the power to wrap an older man around her little finger. Daddy Riina knew what she was when he laid eyes and he invested his time slowly waiting for her true Slavic nature to show itself.

Hi, I'm new to this site. What is 262?

[QUOTE=Riina;2757866]Guys, yesterday I met 262 Inessa and I have to say that I have never been so emotionally connected from paid fun in this country. We are like two young girls talking about girls, boys, and sex. Chemistry aside, she gives the best covered BJ ever. It's better than Megans and I would prefer it over the Ava Alex uncovered. She is considering porn and when you get the blowjob, you can understand why.

She was a lost soul when she arrived to the scene. She knew that she was young and sexual but she did not know she had the power to wrap an older man around her little finger. Daddy Riina knew what she was when he laid eyes and he invested his time slowly waiting for her true Slavic nature to show itself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TaurusRam;2759923]Hi, I'm new to this site. What is 262?[/QUOTE]Well, you should RTFF, especially checking out his old posts. But in this case, Riina hardly posted the actual info about this established agency.

So here is an example URL from BP.

[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lovely-ladies-available-today-new-young-inessa/28393829[/URL]

By the same token, I don't want to see another question about 323, you should be able to figure that one out.

Welcome.

Guys,

I am convinced Ukrainians go to cock sucking school. I met new girl 262 Pamela. She's a twenty year old Ukrainian blond with the most beautiful natural jugs I ever sucked on. I just dear someone to go meet her and report back they were not the best titties ever. The BJ was a beautiful expression of art. She's a tall girl and I licked her tiny college girl pussy.

They say London is the best place to meet a Polish hooker. I'm beginning to think Chicago is the best place to meet a Ukrainian hooker.

What is 323?

[QUOTE=CoolPatrick;2761974]Well, you should RTFF, especially checking out his old posts. But in this case, Riina hardly posted the actual info about this established agency.

So here is an example URL from BP.

[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lovely-ladies-available-today-new-young-inessa/28393829[/URL]

By the same token, I don't want to see another question about 323, you should be able to figure that one out.

Welcome.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Riina;2763197]Guys,

I am convinced Ukrainians go to cock sucking school. I met new girl 262 Pamela. She's a twenty year old Ukrainian blond with the most beautiful natural jugs I ever sucked on. I just dear someone to go meet her and report back they were not the best titties ever. The BJ was a beautiful expression of art. She's a tall girl and I licked her tiny college girl pussy.

They say London is the best place to meet a Polish hooker. I'm beginning to think Chicago is the best place to meet a Ukrainian hooker.[/QUOTE]Thank you for all the reports on 262 and 323. Just curious why you don't see any of the 773 ladies? I had good experiences with Joanna (now goes by Karina) in the past but haven't tried any of the others.

I'm thinking about doing the 262 Inessa Pamela twofer. We have never had the opportunity in Chicago to do a double with two authentic twenty year old Ukrainians.

[QUOTE=Riina;2763981]I'm thinking about doing the 262 Inessa Pamela twofer. We have never had the opportunity in Chicago to do a double with two authentic twenty year old Ukrainians.[/QUOTE]For those who have used the 262 already, are there donations and then "tips" or just donations? If you get my drift.

[QUOTE=Gomi01;2763874]Thank you for all the reports on 262 and 323. Just curious why you don't see any of the 773 ladies? I had good experiences with Joanna (now goes by Karina) in the past but haven't tried any of the others.[/QUOTE]Hi, good question. I don't do business with men. I'm sure the agency you refer is a fine group supportive of helping girls get by.

[QUOTE=Gomi01;2763874]Thank you for all the reports on 262 and 323. Just curious why you don't see any of the 773 ladies? I had good experiences with Joanna (now goes by Karina) in the past but haven't tried any of the others.[/QUOTE]Saw BIANKA at 773 usual rate for half. Ok body about a 6 face was maybe a 3. I should've walked but the little head was thinking. She wanted it doggy. Didn't cost much extra. Nice round ass good for spanking.

With all these Ukrainians I've been meeting these past couple months, I'm having some sweet memories from my past travels to the motherland. I remember the girls doing such a good job of pretending to be your girlfriend. They would come hang out in your apartment for hours just drinking beer and smoking cigarettes. You had to repeatedly tell yourself that you are just a good customer to keep things in perspective and real. Two reasons for this, obviously more chemistry means more money but most importantly, the girls never wanted to feel like prostitutes. If you had a job in Frankfurt where all forms of sex venues are legal, you will not miss this when you return USA. But if you had a job in Kiev, this would hurt when you leave.

For the record, I don't advise travel to Ukraine. Even if you have a deep wallet and the time, you got to be the kind of guy that rolls well with the punches.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2763554]What is 323?[/QUOTE]Wait, I honestly don't expect the question coming from you. But, in respect, here is the BP link of this agency, you can find them by any typical search.

[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-brook-marina-megan-4hands-today-come-and-find-out-how-it-feels-likeeuropean-masseuse/12226646[/URL]

Anyone have experience with this place?

[URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-escape-the-hottest-new-girls-in-newly-renovated-locale-call-and-make-an-appt/33709764[/URL]

Some good looking talent, especially Lana.

Since Riina mentioned Frankfurt, I thought I'd chime in.

Decades ago, Germany had the most organized sex trade I ever saw. Naturally, everything was regulated up the keister, and legal in designated areas.

A couple of Frankfurt memories:

*In the legal sex-trade areas, there would be really hot women driving around in high-end vehicles, like Porsches. Just like reverse streetwalking. Gave the nod to one once and she takes me back to her apartment for knookie. Then, drives me back. Imagine that on Cicero.

*"Dated" one hottie for months. One day she says "I won't be around as of next week. " Why? I asked. "I'm going to prison for murdering my BF. " Okay.

Plus all the other cities, Hamburg, Cologne, Munich.

Amazing in the day.

[QUOTE=OlderChap;2765928]Since Riina mentioned Frankfurt, I thought I'd chime in.

......

*In the legal sex-trade areas, there would be really hot women driving around in high-end vehicles, like Porsches. Just like reverse streetwalking. Gave the nod to one once and she takes me back to her apartment for knookie. Then, drives me back. ....[/QUOTE]This was also the case in Texas many years ago. Really hot looking women driving around providing service. Those were the days.

Be careful driving around 51st & Cottage Grove. I'm giving driving lessons again. Two different Chinese women. (Different times, not a four-hand driving lesson.) Goddam, it is scary watching them steer my car randomly around the parking lot. But I will say, if you are willing to throw caution to the wind, and put your car at risk, its quite the aphrodisiac. Bob.

I was in the break room with a legit MT friend. Shop was empty. Its after dark. We were listening to music and kissing. Front door opens. (I'm out of sight) and a guy asks price. Promises to return, etc. Another couple guys come in. Similar result. Then a third guy arrives. Half hour massage. I'm getting ready to go home. She comes back in and says, "Please stay half hour, I'm scared. " So I stay. They are in the room next door. Can't really hear them. Feeling a mixture of jealously and concern. At one point I hear her say: "No no no no. " I start to get up in case she needs me. But it calms down and he goes maybe 10 minutes later. So I will assume that he was at least civilized about the rejection. When she returns, she apologizes and thanks me profusely. I ask "Are you ok?" Yes. She says "He was a bad man". I have to leave. But I'm left with a feeling of sadness that she has to wait alone, for God-knows-what every night. Pissed at the owner for leaving her unprotected. And feel some hypocrisy, yeah major hypocrisy for my activities.

Many members might then say: "Get out of the business. " That's probably true, except she's a legit MT in a legit place. She not working at an HE place.

And you know, that customer didn't really do anything wrong. He just asked for the wrong thing in the wrong place with the wrong woman. Read that story every day on this forum. And he stopped when she told him to. So my message is to those guys. Who sort of stumble into the wrong place. And fumble around. And waste their hard-earned money. Don't just randomly go into a place. Try to do some research. I replied to a first time poster in Aurora just now. Same topic. Same advice. (So I won't repeat it here.) If you want to test the water, leave the towel off. If she covers you up, she is sending a message. If she does not put the towel on you, it's a different message. Most of my friends are legit MTs. But over time, you get close. And anything is possible. But don't expect to score on the first visit. Bob.

Drove down 47th. Saw a HSW. Curly haired. She gave me the look but I kind of chickened out. Didn't see signs of LEO around then.

May start entertaining outcalls soon. Seeing if anybody can vouch for any hotels / motels with the following:



Don't require CC.
Preferably doesn't require I'd.
Discreet; Nobody "Hanging out" outside or in the halls; doesn't look like it could be raided at any moment.
Goes without saying but, relatively clean on the inside (no bloodstains, rot, bedbugs, leaks, etc).



Looking in primarily 2 locations:


Chicago North of I55 (and close Burbs)
South/Southwest Burbs and NWI (close to 80 or 294).



Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=StayPuff;2768108]May start entertaining outcalls soon. Seeing if anybody can vouch for any hotels / motels with the following:



Don't require CC.
Preferably doesn't require I'd.
Discreet; Nobody "Hanging out" outside or in the halls; doesn't look like it could be raided at any moment.
Goes without saying but, relatively clean on the inside (no bloodstains, rot, bedbugs, leaks, etc).



Looking in primarily 2 locations:


Chicago North of I55 (and close Burbs)
South/Southwest Burbs and NWI (close to 80 or 294).



Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]There is a place just to the west off cicero and I believe it's south of 47th also. Anyway I was ckg out the area during the daylight myself over the holiday and stopped there. It's on the south side of that east and west street. Sorry again, next time I will take a phone pic to I'd. You can see it from cicero heading south say from 47th. Looks like you go right into the room and that immediate area has nothing especially after work hours. Now as far as off the radar my experience with that has been some clerks will take "cash on the side" at a better rate. That amount goes into their pocket, unreported and the room is yours either temp or for the night. Have done this myself at 2 locations, however they are both in niles so out of your area. Again needs to be felt out imo. Cameras in front by the desk, around the entrance and rooms as well as who else is around. At the place I mentioned I saw no one hanging around and just a semi curious maid as I was parked in that factory lot and she probably gave it a 2nd thought (being a holiday) good luck and also looking for a WSW area where an outcall like mentioned is available.

My favorite place is on Harlem (south of 55, not north). Near Toyota Park. 3 hrs $30. Cash. (2 hrs / $25 & 4 hrs $40) No I'd. Registration card, but they don't even look at it. Clean, with fridge & microwave. Table & 2 chairs. Clean towels / linens for a shower. Discrete parking. I know this is not precisely the location you asked for. But its much nicer than other places I've found. To be clear, I only take friends to this place. I never pay them. For the record, I trust nobody would consider using the place for anything other than a casual nap with a close friend. Bob.

[QUOTE=StayPuff;2768108]May start entertaining outcalls soon. Seeing if anybody can vouch for any hotels / motels with the following:



Don't require CC.
Preferably doesn't require I'd.
Discreet; Nobody "Hanging out" outside or in the halls; doesn't look like it could be raided at any moment.
Goes without saying but, relatively clean on the inside (no bloodstains, rot, bedbugs, leaks, etc).



Looking in primarily 2 locations:


Chicago North of I55 (and close Burbs)
South/Southwest Burbs and NWI (close to 80 or 294).



Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;2768434]For the record, I trust nobody would consider using the place for anything other than a casual nap with a close friend. Bob.[/QUOTE]I like the way you put it, Bob!

Good to know about such a place in that area if ever any out call situation arises.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2766456]Be careful driving around 51st & Cottage Grove. I'm giving driving lessons again. Two different Chinese women. (Different times, not a four-hand driving lesson.) Goddam, it is scary watching them steer my car randomly around the parking lot. But I will say, if you are willing to throw caution to the wind, and put your car at risk, its quite the aphrodisiac. Bob.[/QUOTE]You are crazy! Even the ones with a license are an accident waiting to happen. Every time I have to go to Chinatown which is about 2x a week I just cringe. Look at the cars parked on the side streets, they are all beat up with dents everywhere.

That's no aphrodisiac, that's a fucking nervous breakdown.

[QUOTE=Bob521;2766456]Be careful driving around 51st & Cottage Grove. I'm giving driving lessons again. Two different Chinese women. (Different times, not a four-hand driving lesson.) Goddam, it is scary watching them steer my car randomly around the parking lot. But I will say, if you are willing to throw caution to the wind, and put your car at risk, its quite the aphrodisiac. Bob.[/QUOTE]My Car is a 6 speed manual transmission. No way a woman will learn to drive a manual transmission car.

[QUOTE=Gomi01;2763874]Thank you for all the reports on 262 and 323. Just curious why you don't see any of the 773 ladies? I had good experiences with Joanna (now goes by Karina) in the past but haven't tried any of the others.[/QUOTE]I went to see aga from this 773 agency. [URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/BodyRubs/1st-day-new-aga-the-european-green-eyedstar-incalloutcall-full-body-massage-and-more/7279323[/URL].

Nice Polish girl. Med student. Even offered me a beer. That kinda threw me off. This was after I tried and failed to set something up with the 262 and 323 agencies because this was my first time with an euro agency.

They need phone books to see over the steering wheel they so short. LOL.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2768610]You are crazy! Even the ones with a license are an accident waiting to happen. Every time I have to go to Chinatown which is about 2x a week I just cringe. Look at the cars parked on the side streets, they are all beat up with dents everywhere.

That's no aphrodisiac, that's a fucking nervous breakdown.[/QUOTE]

I quite agree I am insane. I've taught four girls now. With two more friends starting this week. Plus my son and daughter. Yesterday, I said to the woman that does acupressure and ED treatment for me. "I trust you with my health. I trust you with my life. Of course I trust you with my car. " She tears up. It's true, actually. As general point, NOBODY does this for Chinese woman, except $500 driving coaches. Based on what I've hear, those guys are a scam. Limited, quickie instruction. Sends them out on the road quite unprepared. Since I actually care about these people, I want them to succeed and be safe. I go to deserted parking lots. Not the open road. I want them to be able to handle a car precisely in a safe place, with "precision" maneuvers, staying in parking lot lines and making precision turns and stops. I tell them up front. Only the parking lot. That way, when they do hire the coach, they can deal with traffic without worrying about remembering how to steer the car. Finally, I say to them. Some day, years from now. You will remember me and the lessons I gave you. You wonder why these people don't charge me for sex? Because we are friends and sex is fun and passionate. Not a business transaction. Bob.

[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2768610]You are crazy! Even the ones with a license are an accident waiting to happen. Every time I have to go to Chinatown which is about 2x a week I just cringe. Look at the cars parked on the side streets, they are all beat up with dents everywhere.

That's no aphrodisiac, that's a fucking nervous breakdown.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Bob521;2769481]I quite agree I am insane. I've taught four girls now. With two more friends starting this week. Plus my son and daughter. Yesterday, I said to the woman that does acupressure and ED treatment for me. "I trust you with my health. I trust you with my life. Of course I trust you with my car. " She tears up. It's true, actually. As general point, NOBODY does this for Chinese woman, except $500 driving coaches. Based on what I've hear, those guys are a scam. Limited, quickie instruction. Sends them out on the road quite unprepared. Since I actually care about these people, I want them to succeed and be safe. I go to deserted parking lots. Not the open road. I want them to be able to handle a car precisely in a safe place, with "precision" maneuvers, staying in parking lot lines and making precision turns and stops. I tell them up front. Only the parking lot. That way, when they do hire the coach, they can deal with traffic without worrying about remembering how to steer the car. Finally, I say to them. Some day, years from now. You will remember me and the lessons I gave you. You wonder why these people don't charge me for sex? Because we are friends and sex is fun and passionate. Not a business transaction. Bob.[/QUOTE]Your inbox is full, FYI.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2768824]They need phone books to see over the steering wheel they so short. LOL.[/QUOTE]I always find it amusing when seeing a 5' Asian gal steps out from a full size SUV in one or even two steps. They still need a phone book to see over the wheel and enjoy the higher line of sight of the big ass SUV.