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Guys have been out of the hobby for a little while and forgot my logon I'd and password so I had to create a new one. Anyway I contacted Amber and she is back in.
Business. It is good to see she is back, she is one of few reliable ladies out there. I will keep you posted on how it goes.
[QUOTE=Rectumrocket;2773269]Appreciate it. The problem is that she continues to daily contact me for about a week now. Also, I wasn't trying to talk her down. She quoted a price that I did not have on me at the time. I was not trying to talk her down. I think it is their body and we should honor their prices. She just suddenly dropped her price and has stuck with it. That seems to come off as desperate to me. Desperation makes me nervous in light of some of the reports of track marks. Personally I do everything covered for safety, and I am not so naive to think there is no risk involved. Needle come with a higher probability of disease though. All of those things combined have my spider sense going off. Just wondering what others might think before I pull the trigger or holster my gun.[/QUOTE]I said I wasn't trying to criticize you but let me elaborate. Your post actually just touched on a point that I had been thinking about for a while now. From the number of responses it seems like a good topic for discussion. Just let me say the negotiating thing wasn't directed at you personally but it seemed a good time to breech the subject.
I have had a couple providers over text me trying to get me to make an appointment. Usually AFTER the first appointment so who could blame them, hehe. I don't think she is desperate but merely following a lead, sales 101. Always go with your gut! But, you obviously like her looks and she wants you to come see her. If the tracks are a deal breaker ignore her and she will drop you. That's a personal call. It wouldn't stop me but I would be 100% safe. Please post if you do see her.
Good luck!
Any info on these two? I'm in the mood for a double whopper tonight LOL.
Anna.
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Gabriela.
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[QUOTE=XHippie;2773349]I'll chime in and give my two cents as most know my post are about Asian pussy on the massage board. At the beginning of every year I get 5 or 6 $50 Visa cards and distribute them to a very few select girls at a selective time. Why Visa? Why not just cash, because my cash gets stuffed with everybody's cash and my tip is forgotten before I can get a mile down the road, But when she see's the Visa card and spends it she remembers who that tip came from. Since I usually deal with Asians I pass these out around Christmas but especially Feb. 8 . This is the Chinese New Year, this is a huge Holliday for them. Like I said it is with someone that I've known and not just here for a few months. I always wait to give it to her right before I walk out the door, so this is the last memory she has of me. Of course I give her the regular tip but the card is one hell of an investment for future visits, Will this work with American BP girls? Maybe but like I said you need to be very selective the Chinese take a sign of respect and compliment serious it's all in the timing and delivery. Oops giving away my secrets.[/QUOTE]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.
Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.
PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.
PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773850]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.
Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.
PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.
PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers[/QUOTE]Go to your happy place.
Sing a song? Know (I feel pretty)?
Moooosefaahvaaah Mooooosefaahvaaah.
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773850]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.
Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.
PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.
PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers[/QUOTE]Some good points in here but to each is own. To everyone on this board, do whatever you want when it comes to tipping and spending. Your life and your money. If you're having fun and feeling like you're "winning" then keep up what you're doing. If you have to think too much about how you're spending and trying to figure a way to convince the expensive girl to be a cheap girl, then you probably should stop the hobby. I really try to keep this fun for myself and the babe I've chosen. I like to get off and she likes money and we both don't like commitments. Thats a score.
[QUOTE=Brucea06;2765915]Do not expect any extras!! Massage only. Many reviews on here, if you expect more you will be disapointed.[/QUOTE]Draped or undraped (knowing it's just straight legit)? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773880]Go to your happy place.
Sing a song? Know (I feel pretty)?
Moooosefaahvaaah Mooooosefaahvaaah.[/QUOTE]I'm just trying to help you young lads get your heads out of your asses and teach you reality.
I have tipped couple times when I was a rookie John; Once I learned thanks to this forum and my wonderful friends here and became a veteran John, I only bring what is needed in an envelope, I bring more cash only when I know the provider well and may want to extend my session but only as much as needed to extend the session.
Tipping is good for their business, sometime it's good for us. Although I feel they are more likely to get benefited by tipping then Johns. This will only drive the price up, most recent example. Noa - went up from $200 to $280 in matter of weeks, now I heard she may be worth that money but you John's made that one expensive not her. She wanted just $200 when she started, but now she is out of reach of many johns out there.
Just my 2 cents, flame me if you like but wanted to make sure I give my perspective.
[QUOTE=Rectumrocket;2773269]Appreciate it. The problem is that she continues to daily contact me for about a week now. Also, I wasn't trying to talk her down. She quoted a price that I did not have on me at the time. I was not trying to talk her down. I think it is their body and we should honor their prices. She just suddenly dropped her price and has stuck with it. That seems to come off as desperate to me. Desperation makes me nervous in light of some of the reports of track marks. Personally I do everything covered for safety, and I am not so naive to think there is no risk involved. Needle come with a higher probability of disease though. All of those things combined have my spider sense going off. Just wondering what others might think before I pull the trigger or holster my gun.[/QUOTE]Why don't you try her out and let everyone know how it go?
If you are that much worried then just block her, problem solved.
It's a simply your choice, you contacted her and now you don't want to go to her due to whatever negatives that you've seen since you made the first contact with her.
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773911]I'm just trying to help you young lads get your heads out of your asses and teach you reality.[/QUOTE]Calm down!! No need to fight over Whos the best looking or such things, Nor the coochie there is plenty for everybody!! At the end of the Road Good looking or ugly and super Fugly all get charged and pay for the fun! No money no honey simple as that LOL Lets keep it Tight and Real, Bros before Hoes!
[QUOTE=XxJohnJohnXx;2773949]Calm down!! No need to fight over Whos the best looking or such things, Nor the coochie there is plenty for everybody!! At the end of the Road Good looking or ugly and super Fugly all get charged and pay for the fun! No money no honey simple as that LOL Lets keep it Tight and Real, Bros before Hoes![/QUOTE]Bros before Hoes! Exactly I mean.
[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;2773880]Go to your happy place.
Sing a song? Know (I feel pretty)?
Moooosefaahvaaah Mooooosefaahvaaah.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you on that point. Its kinda like outa sight out of mind. I can't remember the last person that told me how good I am at my job. And I hear it a lot, but my reply is, "it my job!" I receive compensation for doing my job. I don't expect to be tipped for it, and therefor I consistently do it properly, and that way I continue to be compensated for it.
[QUOTE=Amateur11;2773850]What is this, a fucking Chinese restaurant? The advertised price is the price the get, unless I negotiate a discount, which I often do. My goal is to see a new chick every time, if I like her, I'll see her 2-3 times more, and that's it. I can get "regular sex" and "tried and true" at home. This is about variety.
Do you think my clients tip me? No, they try to jew the price down every fucking time. Tipping. You are just inflating these girls' egos and making average pussy think it is a pornstar, which leads to newbie "good catches" becoming attitude-laden "YMMV, wasn't the same as last time" situations that EVERYONE HERE complains about.
PS edit: If you really feel the need to donate gift cards as "tips," you should donate them to the Salvation Army and get a tax writeoff.
PS edit #2: I am always respectful, always smell good, always do my part to not be selfish but to also not drag the encounter out needlessly, and I'm attractive, so maybe I can get away with more than the average Dick, but I mean...........come on. This is SEX. The goal is a hot hole that comes with as little drama and danger as possible. If you're trying to wife one of these girls, if you're trying to find a mattress therapist to confide your troubles in, you should be spending your "tip" money on QUALITY PURSUITS or professional matchmakers, not Backpage hookers[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you on that point. Its kinda like outa sight out of mind. I can't remember the last person that told me how good I am at my job. And I hear it a lot, but my reply is, "it my job!" I receive compensation for doing my job. I don't expect to be tipped for it, and therefor I consistently do it properly, and that way I continue to be compensated for it.
[QUOTE=Jan2050;2773938]I have tipped couple times when I was a rookie John; Once I learned thanks to this forum and my wonderful friends here and became a veteran John, I only bring what is needed in an envelope, I bring more cash only when I know the provider well and may want to extend my session but only as much as needed to extend the session.
Tipping is good for their business, sometime it's good for us. Although I feel they are more likely to get benefited by tipping then Johns. This will only drive the price up, most recent example. Noa - went up from $200 to $280 in matter of weeks, now I heard she may be worth that money but you John's made that one expensive not her. She wanted just $200 when she started, but now she is out of reach of many johns out there.
Just my 2 cents, flame me if you like but wanted to make sure I give my perspective.[/QUOTE]Just like every other business, basic economics applies to providers too. Income is optimized by setting the price correctly. Price too low means lower total income for a given number of sessions which are possible. Price too high drives away a lot of business and total income is lower. Price just right produces maximum income for the provider. Noa consistently provides a superb experience and word quickly spread. Demand exceeded supply. So the reasonable response is to raise the price, which any competent businessperson would do. I'd like to drink fine French champagne every night but not possible. But if I save up I can have it on a very special occasion. Like you said, just my two cents.