2006 Archived General Reports

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Today started out like old home week on the Avenue. First I spotted Maria. She was crossing the Avenue, near Erie, going north as I was going south. The tear on her cheek is always a give away. I am not sure whether she saw me. About a half of a block away, I decided to go back for her. I looked into my rear view just in time to see flashing lights just about at the same location were Maria had crossed. I returned to the area later, no sign of Maria.

While doubling back for Maria I saw Victoria. She was wearing black tights, a short jacket and boots. Her long hair was tied back and she was making no attempt to hide her skinny legs in the black tights. I passed her, took a trip around the block but she was gone by the time I got back.

Next was Denise. Denise is the little slim goody I mistakenly called Diane. I picked her up near Lehigh Ave. I noted that she was dancing on the corner. She was just a bit out of it, something I call skit zing. I told her I was not interested in doing anything with her but, If she had a friend maybe we could do something. She tried to hook me up with Alexis. She even took me pass her house. I told her I knew Alexis. We agreed that I had gotten pictures of most of the area locals. I gave her a ten spot and called the hunt off.

I decided to take a walk. My old buddy Nellie passed right by me. Having done two sessions with Nellie, I kept on walking. She hadn’t noticed me in the rain gear.

And, here is how my day ended.

Back at the Dunkin Donuts I parked. There was a pretty young girl smoking a cigarette near the entrance. I thought I’d wait for her to finish her smoke before attempting a conversation. After a few minutes, up comes another girl from my summer adventures. I remembered her fondly. Expecting to be greeted with fond hugs and kisses, I got out of the car and walked towards her. She remembered me alright. She started blasting my ass. She was yelling and pitching a *****. She said, “I should have your ass kicked.” She asked, “Why had I put her pictures on the internet?” She was ranting. I told her to wait one minute, I had told her what the pictures were for. She told me not to lie, that she had seen them herself. I told her there was no need for me to lie. I then told her to calm down and we could talk about it. We were both standing in the rain. I asked her to come back to my car were we could sit and talk.

First she claimed to have seen the pictures and the review at her local library. (I knew that could not have been the truth. Libraries have filters on all of there computers to keep kids and perverts away from porn. A site such as this could never be seen on a Library computer. I did not tell her this. I saved this information to use later.) Again, I reminded her that I had told her that the pictures would be posted for some of my friends on the internet. To this she agreed. She claimed that what she was upset about was in the review. However, at this point her story changed. She said that a client, a frequent client, had showed her the pictures. She told me that she’d read the review herself and what she really objected to was that I had said that she had given a BJ for $10 dollars. She was very upset and I could understand why. But, her story changed a little bit more. She was still upset as she said, he; her client, had printed the whole thing out for her. (What the fuck? Some monger had went to the trouble of printing out one of my reviews and showed it to this girl? Why? What the fuck for?)

She was starting to calm down and we talked for awhile. She didn’t mind the pictures and even told me that other new clients had commented that they’d recognized her from her pictures. She pointed out that most of the girls thought it was okay and liked the publicity. She had only seem two pictures, but thought they were nicely done. I told her all my pictures were tasteful and that my reviews were the truth. I also told her that the $10 BJ remark must have been a mistake.

As we sat in the car I told her I was sorry and that I would give her X amount of dollars as my way of asking for her forgiveness. I said, for the X amount of dollars all I wanted was a little info. Without another word from me, before I could say anything – she gave me the name of her client who had given her the printout. Shocked, I said nothing. I had merely wanted to know if she knew of any other girls who wanted their pictures taken. I had no use for knowing his name. I guess she doesn’t know we all hide behind fictitious names. She admitted that I had been straight with her. However she was still upset with the $10 BJ comment. I told her that I would try and undone that portion of my review. She also agreed that otherwise the review was true.

Why? What was he thinking? I could have been seriously hurt. What would make a monger divulge information posted here to a provider? I am telling you, I am feeling really pissed. There is honor among thieves. There is even some honor among Street Walkers. Where is the honor among mongers?

CookyJar[/QUOTE]


Cookyjar
I've posted pictures in the past, and I can't believe that fellow mongers would tell the provider. From now on, I am considering not posting any faces. It's everyone's loss. Too bad, but you can't trust our own kind.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Poor CookyJar.

There you go AGAIN, using the forum to complain about your fellow mongers.

It is naive and somewhat insulting to suggest that somehow you are a victim.

You posted the photos. You take the risks.

If you can't accept the risks, then stop posting photos.

If you don't like the people in here, then leave!

In this case it seems to me that there are two scenarios as to why a monger would let an SW know about her photos on the internet:

1) The monger sees the SW, picks her up and says something to the effect of, "wow, I saw your photos and have really been wanting to find you! " to which the SW naturally replies, "and just where did you see my photos? ". Some people just get excited and don't think.

2) CookyJar, there have been many people posting accusations about you and generally just giving you a hard time since you've been posting photos. You simply can't rule out the fact that one of your detractors will pick up one of "your" SW's and tell her that you have posted her photos on the 'net. Yeah. Some people suck.

I personally like all of the photos, I don't really understand why others who like this board and who like information would ruin it for the rest of us. It would be nice if the conspiracy theorists would spend more time hobbying than worrying about your photos.

I myself have taken many photos of SW's, but I don't post them because I don't want all of the drama that comes with it. Not from SW's, but from other mongers. I don't mind viewing photos which other's have posted, however, and never give anyone a hard time about it.

[QUOTE=Whenwhen]Another thing that is important to remember is to never tell a girl you saw her picture here. I've posted a few pictures. They're always hard to get and it involves a lot of cajoling. While the ones I've posted weren't of SWs, some times I'm lucky enough to get some of the strippers I take out. The last thing I need is for someone to tell the girl that she's "on the web". They'll know it was me and that will be the last time I get them to sit for the camera (and probably they'll never go with me again - hell, I'll probably get jumped by a bouncer next time I go to the club).

This happened to Cookyjar in Baltimore. I'm sure you've all seen his great pictures. Man, he was pissed.[/QUOTE]Found the above quote in the Waterbury, Connecticut forum from back on 10/25/06. It begs more questions than it answers:

1) Why is Cookyjar complaining about something that happened on November 10th as though it's the first time it ever happened? The above quote, posted weeks earlier, says the same thing happened to him in Baltimore. Isn't his latest outrage a bit phony?

2) So Cookyjar posts in Baltimore? Is that why there is often a barrage of posts defending him from Baltimore mongers? What is his username there? Is he double-posting and praising himself?

3) I also regret any monger-on-monger tattling. But when you post hundreds of intimate photographs of many providers in a public forum, aren't you kidding yourself to think nobody's going to pass the shots around?

[QUOTE=Whenwhen]Cookyjar
I've posted pictures in the past, and I can't believe that fellow mongers would tell the provider. From now on, I am considering not posting any faces. It's everyone's loss. Too bad, but you can't trust our own kind.[/QUOTE]

For some time now I have been concerned that the biggest threat was within the group. I now have proof. LE, the girl, her pimp, passerby, the neighbors, kids, robbers and etc have always been known threats. Now, you can add fellow mongers to the list.

This girl figures that I am messing with her money. If you have ever been on the streets, you should know you don't mess with people’s money. She doesn't want guys to think that she can be gotten for $10. Neither does her pimp. What if he had been around?

From my point of view I paid X amount for services and them broke them down into separate categories by price. From her point of view she got paid a set fee for everything and it was way more then $10. We were both satisfied until a third party jumped in where he didn't belong.

From talking to this girl and a few others I have come to find out that I am well known by a number of girls on the avenue. They know my car and my personal description. Some like the idea of having there pictures taken and posted others don't. One girl, Stacy, knew who I was and that I always posted faces - she declined my offer because a male relative often checks out porn sites. I drove Stacy back to the Ave; we wished each other well and went on our separate ways, none the worst. These girls are not dummies; they don't need your help. They know what they are doing. They know if the money they are getting is fair and will not provide for less. They don't need your help with pricing.

I have got a funny feeling about this. Knowing that this guy will take information posted here and report it to providers and their pimps worries me. The street are a very dangerous place and Kensington Avenue is more dangerous then most. I understand now why others choose not post. Maybe the lurkers have the right idea. The way I unknowingly, walked up the this girl she or her pimp could have busted me right upside my head for messing with their money. I was put in harms way by a fellow monger.

By the way: Skrit, regular member and poster of 7 reports (no reviews), you are one hundred percent right - I posted the photos, I took the risks - I can accept that. I am just suggesting that I do not need any help from anyone else to get my ass kicked. And, I just might leave this board one day, but it will not be because of you or others like you. Not everyone here is an asshole.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=Ed Norton]

3) I also regret any monger-on-monger tattling. But when you post hundreds of intimate photographs of many providers in a public forum, aren't you kidding yourself to think nobody's going to pass the shots around?[/QUOTE]

Ed, we have our differences. But I would like to ask you: How would you have felt if my report had been about how I was beaten and stumped to a bloody pulp? What if I was not the reporter? What if another member had to report for me; that as he passed the DD he saw a bloody body laying outside of a SUV and LE was on the scene?

No Ed, I never kidded myself. This was a major concern of mine from day one. The girl said she didn't mind the pictures. She even said that others had seen them and told her that she was reconized as the results of the pictures posted on the internet. The girls don't seem to mind the pictures. Because I tell them that their pictures will be posted to my friends on the net, I felt secure about the pictures for the most part. I knew I had told this girl that her pictures would be posted. The thought to tell her what I would be posting as a review never crossed my mine. I do tell them that my buddies and I will be making comments about the pictures.

Why did this guy print out and show her the review. To hell with the pictures. Nobody seems to care about the pictures. It was the review that caused the problem. All of us post reviews form time to time. Even you, Ed, post reviews (or what you claim to be reviews). Sometime the reviews are not good. Sometimes the reviews maybe wrong. I even suppect that some reviews are down right lies. But why print one out to give to a provider? We have a fellow monger, a member of this board showing reviews to providers and I seem to be the only one upset.

Say what you want about me. Keep going on about the bull. Comment on about the number, quality and quanity of what I do. But I expected a bit more then, "I also regret any monger-on-monger tattling," from you. After all yours could be the next review passed back to a girl.

I am sure that if my body was discovered somewhere on the K, some members would just feel that I got what was coming to me; he got what he deserved, goodbye to bad rubbish, he lived by the camera and he died by the camera. I am sorry, I don't feel that way.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]We have a fellow monger, a member of this board showing reviews to providers and I seem to be the only one upset.[/QUOTE]You will get some sympathy on this point, but not a lot. I have had many providers indicate to me that they have read this forum. It is an open public forum, well known by pimps and providers in the K Ave community, and many either have a computer or friends who have one. The likes of Teddy, Rachel, and Kate probably know more about what's been posted here than we do.

I don't think a monger is out to get you if he shows one of your reports to a provider. His primary concern is to get sex, and typical male thinking is that he can improve his chances of that by impressing the female.

Such thinking supposes the girl will like him because, for example, he:
Is smart enough to manipulate a computer
Is smart enough to find information on a computer
Is able to afford a nice machine that prints reports
Has enough "interest" in a girl to drive all the way down to the Avenue and present her with a gift of a personally relevant report
Is concerned for the poor girl and is being a hero by letting her know what dasterdly things others are doing with her reputation.

As great as this forum is, we can never assume that respect and honor are the overriding principles among men seeking women for sex.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]I just might leave this board one day.[/QUOTE]Before you go, check out the number of times you have [b]used the word "I"[/b] in the last 12 hours:

[b]58[/b] times:
Yesterday at 22:00 in #1394 (I am one pissed off fucker)

[b]19[/b] times:
Today at 09:44 in #1398 (I am still pissed)

[b]21[/b] times:
Today at 10:46 in #1399 (And I am still pissed)

That's a total of [b]98 references to yourself[/b]! Enough of your ego and your rants. Leave already.

There are allways a few bad apples. Assholes is the word I generally use to describe them. Even in the priesthood there are thoes who take advantage of the weak and innocent. All walks of life have them so expect them to be here also. This is no brotherhood. It is a place to brag and spread info.

Who ever it was is an asshole who just cannot come up with his own style for getting laid. Hey buddie take a hint all you nees is cash. The women do not give a F..k.

My advise to Cookeyjar is to realise that even if a sw likes you to her you are still just a way to her next high. If they ever think they can rob you and get away with it she will do it. Allways assume the worst about the streets. There are few "friends" out there.

I do enjoy the pictures though.

Steel Blue

What is all the fuss about this time?

It seems all some like to do in this forum is complain and complain. If it isn't about the location of whether to post pictures separately or on different boards, or about Cookyjar or some other member, or complaining for the sake of complaining, it's time to get back to the purpose of this board.

Cookyjar is an excellent contributor whether he's posting on the Philly or Baltimore board. His reports and pictures are very helpful and informative. If you don't like him, or his reports, or his pictures, don't read them and skip to the next one.

I am the person responsible for asking Cookyjar the question as to why he (and a few others) uses disclaimers with his posts since many of us feel they are pretty much useless and silly. LE would need a lot more evidence to convict one than for what he posts here.

BTW, when Cookyjar posted on the Baltimore board in response to my question he used his same screen name and neither praised himself nor used our board to brag.

If a SW agrees to let you take pictures for a negotiated price, she should have no room to complain. It's purely a business deal and nothing more. It's her problem and not the monger unless she specifically stated that the pictures were not for posting on the NET. If deceit is used in getting the pictures, it's wrong to use them.

Additionally, those mongers who show SW's these reports are doing every monger here a great disservice. A lot of useful information is shared for our benefit and only our benefit, NOT THEIRS. It's for our safety too.

If a SW doesn't like what is being said about her and/or her performance, she would be best advised to make some improvements rather than complain. Very simply put, the good SW's get the good reviews and those rip-off artists take a hit which they should. If they don't like it, tough!

It's time to get back to mongering and quit this petty bullshit griping and complaining.

BBB

Well the next time one of them confronts you aboutthe pictures say you got paided for them and by posting their pics they got more business I'm not saying whoever snitched made the situation better, but if the cat it out of the bag flip it to your advantage remember they are morons anyways, if you point out they got more business by word of mouth.

CJ,

I had asked a while back if you were getting a street rep among the girls. Seemed like that was bound to happen one way or another, but too bad it happened like this -- albeit it still sounds like you have a lot of street cred vs. the punk wannbe who dimed you out.

You get a lot of attention because most guys on this board don't have the balls to do what you do. I know I don't! And I am otherwise a pretty ballsy guy. You go out and engage these chicks who 99% of the time have the upper-hand with mongerers, but you get them to do something most guys wouldn't be able to do. That leads to jealously and self-loathing, and causes guys to throw bombs at you because they are frustrated they do not have the ability to go out and do what you do.

You can just look at the other photos and it is clear you have a unique talent and a hell of a lot of balls. Hats off to you brother! You're in rarefied company (you and Miami Glenn and a couple others). But you have every right to be pissed on this one.

And for those (Ed Norton) who complain about out-of-towners, I am in Philly regularly and typically post about direct experiences on the Ave.

It used to be that discussion of the monies changing hands was not a topic in this forum. Jackson would **** anytime a figure appeared.

Money is always a topic best kept for private discussions. The quality of the service makes the difference and the value of what was received. We've probably all had VERY EXPENSIVE $10 BJ's... Unfufilled promises of delight; cash & dashes; cell phone interuptions; ect. Believe it or not, there can also be $500 EXTACY that lasts for weeks in the memories of what transpired. (Years if there were photos.)

Without pictures this board would be just that ...BORED.
CJ... You keep right on doing what you do. I live vicariuosly through your exploits. Thanks for all your contributions.

Well I normally don't get involved in any of the controversy on this board, as not only don't I have the time to, but prefer to use the board for it's main purpose. And that is to talk about avail poontang in the Phila area. Or if I'm going out of town, I prefer to use USASG as well instead of the PMB's. Much better value and more truth.

One of the reasons that make USASG so great is that for the most part the women we talk about never see what we are saying. Unfortunately there are guys out there to feel it neccessary to run and tell the girls everything they read. Happened to myself in the past with 2 different girls (both got pissed at me). And even recently when I gave my opinion of tall Cheyenne. These are the same guys that hang out on the "Rover" board and the other created by that insecure slinky-dude, that protect 40 something fat girls with bad breath and are fools enough to pay hundreds of dollars for blowjobs from them. So when they do that here I can understand the mentality of those who feel the need to do that. If a girl is a skank, we can say without no reprocussion from anyone else. If she's a cripple who looks like Mrs. Herman Munster..well we're not afraid to say either. Now CJ may photograph her, but that's fine..we know what we're getting.

Now for the topic of photos. I myself think it great to see photos. CJ..keep them coming. I myself have taken and posted more than a handful on these boards over the years. I notice many other boards have a very active photo gallery as well.

One of the great things about pics is being able to put a face to a review. What some guys like, other don't. Some of the girls you have raved about CJ I wouldn't touch if I was wearing a chemical suit, but whom am I to judge another man's taste. Also I'm don't believe it's up to anyone here to judge on topic posts or criticize any member staying on topic or keeping with the theme.

Honestly I don't give a rat's ass what people from other boards like or don't like, or even members from this board. This is a message board for the purpose of sharing info, good or bad. And also has a photo gallery for showing pics of our exploits.

Everyone has a right to post on-topic pics and reports. And that even includes Ed Norton. For all the fun Ed has made of CJ, we all have to admit that in a way it brought out some humor in CJ with the custom signs he made and photographed. It takes all kinds to make these boards not onoly informational, but fun as well.

If only more people would continue to post reviews and pics, this would be an incredible board. As LE continues to crack down on the streets this place can prove to be more valuable to all of us.

OK..now I'm late for my morning appointment.

Well, everyone has one. Here's mine: if the girls don't give you their specific and knowing consent to have their pics posted on the internet, it's wrong to do so. Legally these girls are people with the same right to privacy as you or me. If you get their permission for photos with the false representation that they are for personal use, it's a fraud and an invasion of privacy. If they give their permission to be posted on the 'net it's an entirely different story.

If you took a girl's pics by saying they were for your eyes only, you can hardly ***** if it comes back at you some way. As a matter of fact, it's practically inevitable it will. There are universal laws, and that's one of them.

Even aside from karma, I know from personal experience that critics on this board will sometimes go to absurd lengths in furtherance of their agendas. You were bound to get it sooner or later given the amount of pics you post.

I agree that your fan base consists of a lot of non-locals who are simply cruising around the photo gallery for a cheap thrill, and their meaningless contributions are pretty much why the "streetwalker" forum has become more active for actual SW reviews.

I think it's a matter of personal philosophy as to whether posting pics on here is a good idea or not. Personally I think if one girl who was formerly unknown to LE has been outed by someone posting her pic, it's one too many. They indulge us in our desire to selfishly use and toss aside a woman for an absurdly low price anyway; might we not be overstepping our bounds if we cause them continuing harm after tossing them away?