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I had not heard of Bay One and as a monger having visited well over 50 places in the Valley, I had to have it on my list. It is actually not on Indian School directly, so is dicrete. You have to go behind the building to find it.
Anyhow, I walked in dressed in khakis and golf shirt with logo. A young thai (?) answered the little window. Looked like she was nearly flat chested. I asked for a half hour, went to the door, I could hear some foreign language as she started to twist the door know to let me in. But then she stopped, went back to the window and told me another customer had an appointment and was 10 minutes late and that they normally take appointments. I've never had the brush off like that. My guess is that they didn't recognize me and mistook my golf shirt.
Anyone else have experiences there like that?
[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;1849684]Agreed, Bay One is very similar to M10. Location is discreet which is a plus. Prices are the same with 70 for an hour .50 for 45 minutes, etc. Room is huge with a large massage table. No table shower, at least not yet but stand in shower is available and you can opt for assistance. Apple is the same sweet girl from M10 for those who remembered her. Definitely worth checking it out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shaved Cock; 1852969]I had not heard of Bay One and as a monger having visited well over 50 places in the Valley, I had to have it on my list. It is actually not on Indian School directly, so is dicrete. You have to go behind the building to find it.
Anyhow, I walked in dressed in khakis and golf shirt with logo. A young thai (?) answered the little window. Looked like she was nearly flat chested. I asked for a half hour, went to the door, I could hear some foreign language as she started to twist the door know to let me in. But then she stopped, went back to the window and told me another customer had an appointment and was 10 minutes late and that they normally take appointments. I've never had the brush off like that. My guess is that they didn't recognize me and mistook my golf shirt.
Anyone else have experiences there like that?[/QUOTE]Yes, at USA Spa, and another on 19th ave and Thunderbird. A few others I can't think of now. The one on Thunderbird the girl told me they were closing early (it was 6:15 PM). I drove by an hour later and the open sign was still on. I was wearing a Ralph Lauren T shirt with writing on it. I got negative vibes at every bell I rang that day.
I take daily Cialis 5 mg. I get it up OK, but 5-10 min into it I lose some of it.
Haven't kept a rock hard one for the whole performance in a while.
Not that I don't enjoy the motion and slow good feelings, I just.
Want suggestions of what to add or change for the good old days.
To return.
Many Thanks.
Okane
Thanks for all of the help you provided during my stay in Phoenix this week. I had a couple experiences and left with a wonderful memory.
In short, ANFU has two new girls. Jenny is a very petite girl with extensive restrictions. Katie is of average height but quite large breasted. She is a bit more relaxed than Jenny, but not by much. Both are fairly cute.
Bay One was a total hit. A girl could not be sweeter than Apple! By the way, I was also told to come back another time as I had arrived a bit late and missed my appointment time.
[QUOTE=Luv Nooke2; 1853750]Thanks for all of the help you provided during my stay in Phoenix this week. I had a couple experiences and left with a wonderful memory.
In short, ANFU has two new girls. Jenny is a very petite girl with extensive restrictions. Katie is of average height but quite large breasted. She is a bit more relaxed than Jenny, but not by much. Both are fairly cute.
Bay One was a total hit. A girl could not be sweeter than Apple! By the way, I was also told to come back another time as I had arrived a bit late and missed my appointment time.[/QUOTE]I remember Katie from last year. I thought she was great. Probably late 20s or early 30s. Very cute with nice natural tits. Great TS and very friendly and fun once she gets to know you better. Just wish her English was slightly better.
I had the same problem and now take 10 mg on the day of my session. Bought a generic from a Canadian Pharmacy that works well for 85 bucks for 20 20 mg tablets. I just break them in half. GOM.
I take daily Cialis 5 mg. I get it up OK, but 5-10 min into it I lose some of it.
So I hit up a shop off of kyrene and chandler blvd on the south west corner plaza. I think it's called pacific. I went in for a 30 min visit for 30$ and the massage was decent. But there was no flip. She tells me you have to do the hour massage for the flip. She wasn't a looker LOL had some jacked up teeth! I paid the 30$ and jammed out, didn't leave a tip and she didn't ask for one. I may have to go back and check out the other girl that actually looked good.
There is a little massage place tucked in here, on the south east corner of ray and McClintock. It was 50$ for the hour. I had a thick older Asian lady hook me up with a great massage. No joke the massage was actually really great and I will repeat just for the massage alone. But no happy ending here, that I know of. I tried to get her to help me out but no dice!
[QUOTE=MrGuapo;1855376]There is a little massage place tucked in here, on the south east corner of ray and McClintock. It was 50$ for the hour. I had a thick older Asian lady hook me up with a great massage. No joke the massage was actually really great and I will repeat just for the massage alone. But no happy ending here, that I know of. I tried to get her to help me out but no dice![/QUOTE]Speaking of that area, there is one I saw newly advertised yesterday on backpage. Also on McClintock Road, a couple miles north of Ray Road, at the Elliot Road intersection.
I swung by and it is there sure enough, but didn't appear open yet. Has a banner hanging that said "grand opening soon". Name on sign: "Massage Golden". Tucked back behind the automotive place in the corner. Advertisement looked Asian / AMP.
[QUOTE=MrGuapo;1855376]There is a little massage place tucked in here, on the south east corner of ray and McClintock. It was 50$ for the hour. I had a thick older Asian lady hook me up with a great massage. No joke the massage was actually really great and I will repeat just for the massage alone. But no happy ending here, that I know of. I tried to get her to help me out but no dice![/QUOTE]There is a place near Ray & Kyrene that is pretty good. The massage itself is way above average and the women I have seen are attractive (from China). The first couple times, however, you have to finish yourself (or at least I did). The other downside is that the walls do not go to the ceilings.
Does anyone know the line-up at M10 now?
Thanks.
Hey use caution if you try this place out. My buddy went yesterday and said he noticed a man on the roof of the bowling alley taking pictures of the cars in the parking lot that is south of the bowling alley, kind of behind the massage place. Just wanted to give a heads up!
The Brazilian spa at Southern and Stapley, north side of street $99 all inclusive. I talked to the girl there and she was quite nice, but didn't stay.
How about the spa at 835 E. Southern in Mesa, on the south side of the street.
Another American spa on the south side of the street in the 9100 block I believe of E. Main Street. They have a sign on wheels out front. I walked in to observe. They had several white girls, but didn't stay.
Do many of you prefer Asian girls, or does it matter?
Are you referring to this one? [url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-us-30-special-g-r-a-n-d-re-o-p-e-n-i-n-g-30/23689623[/url]
This is the one in the strip mall. It's what I consider standard fare for American girls. .4 for 30min, then tips start at $ for hand finish. Same fees at the one 8000 block ([url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/do-you-think-its-hot-outside-guess-you-havent-been-here-26/23558224[/url]). I think you might referring to the one in the 8000 block if you're talking about signs on wheels.
[QUOTE=Slacker30; 1856194]The Brazilian spa at Southern and Stapley, north side of street $99 all inclusive. I talked to the girl there and she was quite nice, but didn't stay.
How about the spa at 835 E. Southern in Mesa, on the south side of the street.
Another American spa on the south side of the street in the 9100 block I believe of E. Main Street. They have a sign on wheels out front. I walked in to observe. They had several white girls, but didn't stay.
Do many of you prefer Asian girls, or does it matter?[/QUOTE]
Has anyone had luck here? I'm thinking of trying again!
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/always-special-for-you/23841343[/url]
[QUOTE=Luv Nooke2; 1853750]Thanks for all of the help you provided during my stay in Phoenix this week. I had a couple experiences and left with a wonderful memory.
In short, ANFU has two new girls. Jenny is a very petite girl with extensive restrictions. Katie is of average height but quite large breasted. She is a bit more relaxed than Jenny, but not by much. Both are fairly cute.
Bay One was a total hit. A girl could not be sweeter than Apple! By the way, I was also told to come back another time as I had arrived a bit late and missed my appointment time.[/QUOTE]Long time lurker, first time poster here. I figured it is about time I contribute as I receive a lot of good information here.
I visited here over lunch hour today and concur on Ms. Apple. She is a very sweet and tasty snack! All services were provided without complaint and to my liking. What is that saying: "An Apple a day keeps the doctor away"? The new saying should be: "An Apple a day keeps MakeEmShudder okay!".
Will report back on ANFU soon, as I plan a visit this week. I haven't been there in a long time, but my experiences there previously were A-OK.
[QUOTE=MrGuapo; 1857066]Has anyone had luck here? I'm thinking of trying again!
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/always-special-for-you/23841343[/url][/QUOTE]Dang, those look like real pics! I don't recall seeing that very often with AMPs. I know in Hawaii it is not uncommon, but don't recall anywhere else. She looks Chinese, and she looks good to me!
I googled the address and it came back as a NA / AA meeting location. LMAO.
Interesting.
I've been to the 835 E. Southern twice. Both times were a good time. Standard rates and choices. GOM.
[QUOTE=Slacker30; 1856194]The Brazilian spa at Southern and Stapley, north side of street $99 all inclusive. I talked to the girl there and she was quite nice, but didn't stay.
How about the spa at 835 E. Southern in Mesa, on the south side of the street.
Another American spa on the south side of the street in the 9100 block I believe of E. Main Street. They have a sign on wheels out front. I walked in to observe. They had several white girls, but didn't stay.
Do many of you prefer Asian girls, or does it matter?[/QUOTE]
Yes, those are real pics. She is Chinese. She is enough of a tease to keep you coming back. I think Bubba was infatuated with her for a while or still is. As for luck, you will probably not get any at the shop from her. But...
[QUOTE=MakeEmQuiver; 1857257]Dang, those look like real pics! I don't recall seeing that very often with AMPs. I know in Hawaii it is not uncommon, but don't recall anywhere else. She looks Chinese, and she looks good to me!
I googled the address and it came back as a NA / AA meeting location. LMAO.
Interesting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrGuapo;1855974]Hey use caution if you try this place out. My buddy went yesterday and said he noticed a man on the roof of the bowling alley taking pictures of the cars in the parking lot that is south of the bowling alley, kind of behind the massage place. Just wanted to give a heads up![/QUOTE][QUOTE=ThomasT1964;1855538]There is a place near Ray & Kyrene that is pretty good. The massage itself is way above average and the women I have seen are attractive (from China). The first couple times, however, you have to finish yourself (or at least I did). The other downside is that the walls do not go to the ceilings.[/QUOTE]I did check out this place too a few weeks ago right in the center of the mall on the south side of Ray. Superb massage by a cutie. I tried everything to get her to work on the pole, but she was sticking to her guns and politely refused to wank me. What a tease tho! When leaving I ha to laugh when I noticed a framed magazine article on the wall that said,"No Happy Ending". Well, there you have it. They are trying to stay legit in that mall. Has anyone gotten them to give you a HJ?
[QUOTE=Gold coast;1857646]Yes, those are real pics. She is Chinese. She is enough of a tease to keep you coming back. I think Bubba was infatuated with her for a while or still is. As for luck, you will probably not get any at the shop from her. But.[/QUOTE]
That type is usually fun "for the hunt" actually. Sometimes having to work for it makes it all the better. My experience with a couple other similar middle-aged Chinese women at similar shops like this has been pretty good in this regard, after working my mojo (and my mojo isn't anything special, just being nice) with them for a couple months getting them to "open" up "significantly". It can be mind-blowing when you finally get her to turn that corner.
My only caveat to work a girl pllace like this for a few months "in the hunt" is, I at least have to be getting a good massage out of it in the meantime.
[QUOTE=RagsDen; 1856242]Are you referring to this one?
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-us-30-special-g-r-a-n-d-re-o-p-e-n-i-n-g-30/23689623[/url]
This is the one in the strip mall. It's what I consider standard fare for American girls. .4 for 30min, then tips start at $ for hand finish. Same fees at the one 8000 block (
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/do-you-think-its-hot-outside-guess-you-havent-been-here-26/23558224[/url]
). I think you might referring to the one in the 8000 block if you're talking about signs on wheels.[/QUOTE]I have been to both. The one in the 80's block is a bit more discreet and the quality was better. Pricing, about the same with each.
Ok guys, with all the tips that have been so generously made available on this forum, I need to return the favor. I'll let you in on an A+ discovery that is not on BP or CraigsList, so I thought I would share this little gem with you.
First off, just to calibrate you, my mongering mode is typically to find an ideally good massage combined with a GFE and HE. FS is not really my thing, although I've been offered it many times. I also REALLY dislike the bartering types who want to talk money first and break up the mood. My favorite find is that easygoing cutie that wants to please, knows what I want (want all customers universally want) , and trusts me to leave a good tip. My experience is that those that fit this are typically Asians with the good attitudes. I have not had the best experiences with non-Asians due to lame skills, rushed mentality or just plain greedy. I have tried a few 'independents' on BP with some mixed results. But the AMPs just make it simple when you want to just walk-in without the hassle challenge is, you just never know what you'll find.
On the corner of Shea / Scottsdale Road, there must be eight or nine AMPs. It is a very high density environment, I think because of the lower rent properties, and lots of DOM (dirty old men) in the area. I've tried most of them out over the years just for the adventure and seeing what I may find. Most will give you the basic HE if they get good vibes from you, but enthusiasm varies.
To my surprise, I found a little pot-o-gold at the place I visited yesterday. This one is on the SE corner of Shea / Scottsdale Road. In a large 'L-shaped' strip mall. It's the one with large MASSAGE sign over the patio cover in the SE corner of that complex. Hard to miss. I had not visited this one prior to yesterday, but as I walk in, I check out the standard layout: front desk with bare furnishings, no staff, and a locked door to the back. Looked promising so far. As I wait to be greeted and see what she looks like expecting a Chinese or Korean. I'm taken back when out comes this beautiful black woman (Sarah). She's very attractive, large breasts, athletic build, and tight ass. She gives me the prices I take 45 min for. 50. She waits for me to hand her the cash another good sign looking for clues. Asks the standard, 'Have you been here before? ' A question to which the answer is always YES. (That's a tip for you new guys. Always act like you're a regular there).
The room is nice with a very comfortable and clean table. She tells me to undress to my comfort level. I strip down and notice there is no towel to cover up my ass? Only a tiny little wash cloth folded on the table. What the heck is this for, I wonder? Anyway I just decide to just go for it and lay down with no draping which was a first for me. So I'm lying there, just a little self-conscious, she comes in, unfazed by me in that state. I got good vibes from her from the beginning and we were hitting it off. Another tip guys, is I try to look your best: well groomed especially your groin not clean shaven which is weird for a guy, but looking good down there. Be clean, and smell nice. This will definitely separate you from her typical customers and may get her excited to service you better. This is just been my experience.
She started off with a medium back rub. Good skills, worked on me with some force. Already starts the teasing by brushing her tits on my back and hitting her pussy on the top of my head. Working down she is purposeful to brush my balls on every stoke up my leg. This may sound strange, but I make it a point to tuck my tackle behind when I get on the table so she has full access to the goods! She is good and knows what she's doing. Very sensual, doesn't talk a lot but the teasing and anticipation is electrifying. She's climbing on top of me, brushing, grinding her pussy all-in-all, wants to please. No rush after 35 minutes, she says to turn over. She politely places that tiny towel over my goods now I see what that was for. As she now works the front, she's rubbing her pussy over my arm! I reach up and massage her back to which she says, 'oh, that's good, I like to be touched too! ' She's begging me to touch her everywhere. Asks me to touch where I need attention, and it's Game On! Now things heat up. I pull her top down, as she's stoking my cock between her huge, firm tits. I pull down her pants to see that shaved snatch and touch it she moans and starts talking dirty. I mean, really dirty. This is one area that the Asians come short are the nasty talk since they have very limited communication skills.
Anyway, Sarah is working me over, moaning, and saying how much she loves my cock! I'm flattered. She's going for it. And she does love cock! I'm touching her all over, nothing is off limits! I blow all over her yobs as she giggles with delight. Ok, that was awesome. I'm thinking to myself. Then I realize, she didn't ask for a dime for all this GFE service. She just trusted me that I would take care of her. I left her. 70, which seemed appropriate. I have been quoted. 60 for HE and $.0 for topless before (at the Oasis on Elliott Road / I-10) which seemed high, and too American! Sarah was different. Professional in a way, but very sensual and a true GFE in every way. Totally recommend if you haven't tried a chocolate hottie she is delightful. She told me she usually doesn't work on Mondays, but I suspect she's usually there mid-day, Tues-Sat. Best of luck!
[QUOTE=RagsDen; 1856242]Are you referring to this one?
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-see-us-30-special-g-r-a-n-d-re-o-p-e-n-i-n-g-30/23689623[/url]
This is the one in the strip mall. It's what I consider standard fare for American girls. .4 for 30min, then tips start at $ for hand finish. Same fees at the one 8000 block (
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/do-you-think-its-hot-outside-guess-you-havent-been-here-26/23558224[/url]
). I think you might referring to the one in the 8000 block if you're talking about signs on wheels.[/QUOTE]I forgot the hundred block and the name, I went in and out of so many that day. Yes that must be the 8000 block. Was wondering how the sessions are there.
After visiting there 4 time in the past with great results, I was worried that something had gone wrong there. The recent reports on this place have not been good at all. I stopped in and asked who was working. Cindy, the Mamasan, said June and Bobbie. I was going to walk if it was Yuri or whatever her name was that caused guys to walk out. Got a nice table shower, massage, and usual finish. 60 for 45 minutes and $1. 2 for a well earned tip. Nice girls there now guys.
GOM
I was seeing the ads plastered all over BP the past few days for this new place in Tempe:
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-tempe-golden-spa-asian-beauties-tempe-by-bostons-bar/24668206[/url]
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/golden-spa-tempe-grand-opening-asian-beauties-tempe-by-bostons-bar/24664409[/url]
I like the location, as it is on my way home from work, so figured I try it. Swung by at about 8:30 last night (Wednesday) but it wasn't open (ad says 9:00 to 10:00)? Has anybody been there yet? Are they actually open yet? The place looks good from outside, with nice privacy for parking and entrance. Pictures look hot as hell too, even though I know they are almost always fakes.
I skipped over to ANFU after that instead and had a blast with Katie (not a total knockout but sweet and willing). The usual damage of $.60 left me quite satisfied.
I saw her ad and wondered if any of you guys had an experience that you can share. She's asking for $ for an hour, so if you guys know anything let me know. Thank you.
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/liz-full-body-therapeutic-and-sensuous-massage-and-more/22172125[/url]
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-stress-relief-massage/23630495[/url]
I saw her a couple of times last summer. Really nice girl, quiet. Nice runners legs! After the flip the first time, she saw my condition. She didn't back away, so I sit up.
Face her and pull her closer. Statred ti kiss her gently until she relaxed. The it was full on french, such beautiful lips! HE while kissing, awesome! Cleaned me up and finished the massage.
Next time when she comes in the room, I tell her to take off her clothes, and she does! Awesome again! My hands roam all over as she massages me.
After the flip I pull her closer again. We start kissing rubbing etc. She gets on the table DATY fiv until she comes. BBBJ for me!
The first time I tipped her 40.
Next was 60.
Third time was at a hair salon. Not a lot of privacy. HE 40.
She is real sweet, glad to see she is back in town.
Tried to hit this place last week and it was still under construction. Tried again this afternoon and it is open now:
[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/golden-spa-tempe-grand-opening-asian-beauties-tempe-by-bostons-bar/24791220[/url]
Says Golden Spa on backpage, but sign says Massage Golden on front of building. Regardless: Two BIG thumbs up on the ladies there. A real doll named Soony (or Sunny?) took care of me today. Can't recommend enough with all menu items available and smoking body. One of the better times I've had in recent memory.
The place looks like a brand new luxury spa, no expense spared, but with Korean AMP "service". There are at least two (maybe three) girls working there as I saw another drop dead babe as I was leaving.
Door fee was .60 and $.40 tip with no debate needed.
Enjoy.
Hi Phoenix mongers,
I'm just a noob about MP and try to know this before I actually go there.
Pretty much every abbrs I could find at urbanDic but not the price.
What does $. X mean? Is that just fifty bucks if its $.5?
Cheers
[QUOTE=Maeeffoc; 1865461]Hi Phoenix mongers,
I'm just a noob about MP and try to know this before I actually go there.
Pretty much every abbrs I could find at urbanDic but not the price.
What does $. X mean? Is that just fifty bucks if its $.5?
Cheers[/QUOTE]Link at the top of the page that says "Abbreviations". Takes you to this page and has the information you are asking about:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_abbreviations[/url]
Gentlemen, I am seeking assistance locating a reasonably reliable FS AMP anywhere in the PHX / Scottsdale / Tempe area for an upcoming visit. Prior forays into the area have been disappointing, would love to have a reliable place. Responses by PM welcome. Happy to reciprocate with NYC area info for anyone with traveling boots.
[QUOTE=Jdev99; 1864980][url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relaxing-stress-relief-massage/23630495[/url]
I saw her a couple of times last summer. Really nice girl, quiet. Nice runners legs! After the flip the first time, she saw my condition. She didn't back away, so I sit up.
Face her and pull her closer. Statred ti kiss her gently until she relaxed. The it was full on french, such beautiful lips! HE while kissing, awesome! Cleaned me up and finished the massage.
Next time when she comes in the room, I tell her to take off her clothes, and she does! Awesome again! My hands roam all over as she massages me.
After the flip I pull her closer again. We start kissing rubbing etc. She gets on the table DATY fiv until she comes. BBBJ for me!
The first time I tipped her 40.
Next was 60.
Third time was at a hair salon. Not a lot of privacy. HE 40.
She is real sweet, glad to see she is back in town.[/QUOTE]Is it just me, or does it look like she has a 5 o'clock shadow going?
Being a man of color, racism is part of life. But what happened to me today is uncalled for.
This place is next to the old Blue Water Spa on Northern 1 block west of I-17, across from K-Mart. A provider I have seen in the past told me she knew some girls at this new place, so I thought I would check it out.
The fat dyke looking woman who is the receptionist asked me if I had an appointment, I said no and she said she had 2 girls. I asked to see them and she said I could once I paid. I don't work that way. She said she would ask the girls if they would come out. She then came back out and said no, we don't do that here.
As I was walking out, I told her I don't get massages unless I see the girls first. She then walked away and said loudly "Fuck you nigger". I told her to fuck herself and walked out.
I have experienced subtle prejudice all my life, but for the life of me, I do not understand why these girls don't understand that customers choose to have a session based on the visual perception of the masseuse they are considering seeing. I had 200 dollars in my pocket.
I wasn't about to risk causing a scene there and getting the police called, but if this had happened in any other type of business, they would have had to deal with me and I would have gotten in her face.
Why do some of these women object to the line up? It makes no sense.
I am about ready to chill on these places for awhile. Unless you stick to the same providers who know you, you risk bad attitudes, and risk losing your money to providers who just aren't into you and really don't want to do this business. Even if you stick to a regular provider, sometimes they just aren't feeling you at the same level of intensity every visit.
Most of the masseuses have a sloppy appearance when coming to the window. They just don't care. It used to be different some years back. I just want a little variety from time to time. It's getting to be not worth it.
Slacker,
Thanks for the heads-up. I've been considering dropping in to try that place out. A-holes like that sure as hell aren't going to get any of my business. Secondly, it's good to know that there are still some mature adults in the world.
Regards,
Tooncinator
Sorry about your dreadful experience, Slacker. I also must see the girl first-just can't imagine being with someone sight unseen.
Screw that place!
[QUOTE=Slacker30; 1868116]Being a man of color, racism is part of life. But what happened to me today is uncalled for.
This place is next to the old Blue Water Spa on Northern 1 block west of I-17, across from K-Mart. A provider I have seen in the past told me she knew some girls at this new place, so I thought I would check it out.
The fat dyke looking woman who is the receptionist asked me if I had an appointment, I said no and she said she had 2 girls. I asked to see them and she said I could once I paid. I don't work that way. She said she would ask the girls if they would come out. She then came back out and said no, we don't do that here.
As I was walking out, I told her I don't get massages unless I see the girls first. She then walked away and said loudly "Fuck you nigger". I told her to fuck herself and walked out.
I have experienced subtle prejudice all my life, but for the life of me, I do not understand why these girls don't understand that customers choose to have a session based on the visual perception of the masseuse they are considering seeing. I had 200 dollars in my pocket.
I wasn't about to risk causing a scene there and getting the police called, but if this had happened in any other type of business, they would have had to deal with me and I would have gotten in her face.
Why do some of these women object to the line up? It makes no sense.
I am about ready to chill on these places for awhile. Unless you stick to the same providers who know you, you risk bad attitudes, and risk losing your money to providers who just aren't into you and really don't want to do this business. Even if you stick to a regular provider, sometimes they just aren't feeling you at the same level of intensity every visit.
Most of the masseuses have a sloppy appearance when coming to the window. They just don't care. It used to be different some years back. I just want a little variety from time to time. It's getting to be not worth it.[/QUOTE]
Kudos to you on taking the higher ground.
Just because we indulge, should not warrant behavior like this, in this day and age. It should not be any part of life.
All of us can only boycott the place to get the message across.
-NS
[QUOTE=Slacker30; 1868116]Being a man of color, racism is part of life. But what happened to me today is uncalled for.
This place is next to the old Blue Water Spa on Northern 1 block west of I-17, across from K-Mart. A provider I have seen in the past told me she knew some girls at this new place, so I thought I would check it out.
The fat dyke looking woman who is the receptionist asked me if I had an appointment, I said no and she said she had 2 girls. I asked to see them and she said I could once I paid. I don't work that way. She said she would ask the girls if they would come out. She then came back out and said no, we don't do that here.
As I was walking out, I told her I don't get massages unless I see the girls first. She then walked away and said loudly "Fuck you nigger". I told her to fuck herself and walked out.
I have experienced subtle prejudice all my life, but for the life of me, I do not understand why these girls don't understand that customers choose to have a session based on the visual perception of the masseuse they are considering seeing. I had 200 dollars in my pocket.
I wasn't about to risk causing a scene there and getting the police called, but if this had happened in any other type of business, they would have had to deal with me and I would have gotten in her face.
Why do some of these women object to the line up? It makes no sense.
I am about ready to chill on these places for awhile. Unless you stick to the same providers who know you, you risk bad attitudes, and risk losing your money to providers who just aren't into you and really don't want to do this business. Even if you stick to a regular provider, sometimes they just aren't feeling you at the same level of intensity every visit.
Most of the masseuses have a sloppy appearance when coming to the window. They just don't care. It used to be different some years back. I just want a little variety from time to time. It's getting to be not worth it.[/QUOTE]I grew up Jewish so I experienced a lot of hate in my life too. I can not begin to count the number of times that I have been called a kyke during my lifetime. I now consider myself agnostic but I still can relate to racial slurs. I agree that is not cool and I think we should all avoid the place.
It is however the practice of most massage parlors to not show the girls or even if they do they will not give you the one they want. They usually take turns all day long. The only massage parlor I know of that does not do that is Aztec in Scottsdale as I am usually able to see Terri whenever I want. I think it is because if they did not do that some of the girls would not get any business and also it allows the girls to have a break.
[QUOTE=Tempe Jon;1870324]It is however the practice of most massage parlors to not show the girls or even if they do they will not give you the one they want. They usually take turns all day long. The only massage parlor I know of that does not do that is Aztec in Scottsdale as I am usually able to see Terri whenever I want. I think it is because if they did not do that some of the girls would not get any business and also it allows the girls to have a break.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of the old days when I went to so many parlors (pre 2009) and took pot luck but rarely had a good experience. That is why now I only go to (the few times I have) to gals that have been reviewed and seem my type both for intimacy and looks. But I am not much into Asian and in No Phx which limits choices without a long drive.
Even in Canada with all the great nude-reverse-release with no tipping crap or legal issues almost always went with carefully selected. Exception was one late night place almost all Eastern European and never had a bad walk in experience. I usually stop there from the airport first and may repeat a few times on a 7-10 day trip. Most parlors have great pictures of all the gals and their schedules posted. If only we could do this in the U.S. it is such a more positive environment when consenting adults have sexual freedoms we lack in the U.S.
It is so much harder in Phoenix and from my decade ago experience cured me of just walking in vs appointment with specific gal.