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[QUOTE=Pan Man]I don't think there is more on the menu but you can ask. I just got an uncomfortable feeling in her apt. You defintely don't get your hours worth. So be warned at your own risk.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the feedback everyone. I may pass on her and keep looking for a regular near (but not to near-lol) Cambridge.
I had two altf but they are not in the biz anymore, the search continues.
J4f
Went to Stoneham today - was feeling very run-down, so wanted to go get massage where I knew that I'd get a decent massage and gauranteed HE. For those of you who haven't seen the intel on this place, search my old posts. In fairness, at least one person has added their own negative review of this place - but I think they got Nancy... you wanna get Jessica here.
Bottom Line: It started out as a great session, but she totally missed the landing. Here's what happened:
I called from down the street and asked if Jessica was working (not WW, different Jessica) - I actually think it was Jessica who answered and she said yes so I said I'd be right over.
When I rang bell, she came running to let me in, and was just a bundle of energy and happy to see me - she definitely remembers me now. She leads me into the room and asks for the .7 house fee - as I'm giving her the money, she asks me if I want to try 2 girls - "you only pay 70" - did I hear her right? Yes, of course I want to try 2... is it really that slow?
So she brings me my change, and I get naked on the table - never drape. Within a minute of her starting, Nancy comes in and joins. For about 5-10 minutes Nancy is on my top half and Jessica on the bottom - it was pure heaven. They were doing a little talking in hushed chinese, but I was able to block it out cuz I was certain they weren't talking about me.
But after that first 5-10 mins, Nancy goes to answer the phone or something. She never came back. I didn't say anything, and didn't even really care since I had taken some dayquil and was just mellowing out.
Jessica continued the massage, then went to get a hot towel to wipe my back before the flip. when she left, my spidey sense told me that she was cutting things short, and they musta had more clients lined up.... I was right. Upon flip, she basically gave a 20-second tease, then went straight for the finish. Clearly in a hurry now, she even shoved a finger in my a-hole, which was never necessary before.
I tried to roam around front - but apparently no matter how much she likes you, you can only touch her back and ass.
She finished me off and did a quick clean-up. She kissed me on the forehead a few times, too - come to think of it, she had also kissed me when we flipped. Weird.
But I digress... she apologized for Nancy leaving and explained that it had gotten busy. She promised that maybe next time I can try 2-girl massage. As I got dressed, I noticed by the clock on my phone that I was only there about 40 minutes. I knew it! I always look at the time when I walk in, I've never really been shorted there before, so I was really surprised. This may have been my first Saturday going there, but I don't know if that's an excuse.
But here's where it got weird - when I tipped her, she asked if I could give $20 for Nancy, too... I made a face and said that she was only in there for like 5 minutes... but then I decided I'd give $10 just to keep up appearances, and she was happy with that. Some of you may think I shouldn't have, but I only tip Jessica $30-40 each time so I was fine with it.
All-in-all, I thought I was heading toward a 4-handed trip to xanadu, but it turned into a marginal experience - this from a place that I have defended for their consistency!
Oh well, guess I might start trying some lesser-known places and see if I can find the next FY or WW for all of us!
Good luck - if you decide to try 38 Montvale, ask for J but keep an eye on the clock. I still say its a sure-thing if you want the HE and a decent massage, but I would expect to be given the full hour, especially as a repeat-customer that they know.
JP
[QUOTE=Schvanz]Longtime viewer, first time reporting. Saw her a couple months ago. Safe place in apt complex. She gets naked for you, and lets you touch all, no fingers in. She allowed me to DATY and she appeared to "O" rather quickly, but real. Clean tasting. Doesn't BJ or go for full service. She did a fair massage, but didn't balk at my request for 2x on the HJ treatment. One in the beginning to relieve the pressure, massage and 2nd to finish.
Probably would not repeat, she is a bit thick for my tastes, and I would have liked a bit more. I think I paid 1.2 for 1 hr.[/QUOTE]
Damn, when I saw her I asked her if the session was over after the first pop. She said yes, it'd be over no matter how long it took. I probably wont repeat.
[QUOTE=Gonefishing333]I checked out this place today because of Fureaters review. Natalie did a great job on the massage. She really knows what she's doing but it was just a massage. I brought my "own" on fureaters recommendation, showed it and offered $$ then $$$ and then $$$$ (never intending more than $$) just to see if there was a breaking point. I then felt like a perv because she seems like a really sweet girl. I have been frequenting this website for quite a while and often wondered how true some of these reviews actually are. Has anyone else been mislead by a review in here?[/QUOTE]
Ok GF let me understand your post. You went to Galen St (for the first time I'm assuming) and get Natalie. You enjoy the massage and then pull out a cover and offered 200 and get turned down. So you offer more and more (without actually expecting to pay) and get turned down some more. Now I could write a book on all you did wrong here but I won't as it's too easy. I'll let othere do it. So instead of just letting it go you not only tell all of us about your assinine behavior but then blame us for 'bad reviews'. well to answer your question "are there questionable reviews out here? Of course...gents have egos and like to talk about their conquests. Are they all fake? Of course not and I resent the fact that just because you acted like an 'a..hole' and then blamed us for not getting your way. If you wanted to get everything then you should have gone down the highway where it is well known and written (but hey those reviews must be fake too) that you can get it all for your $$I have known Joline for at least 3 years and have gotten much more than a massage from some of her providers including Natalie. But here is the important part. I have gone more than once and developed a relationship with them and the place, behaved like a gent and not treated them like a SW.
So I suggest you head to Prov with your $$ where even you can get it. SO
[QUOTE=Gonefishing333]I checked out this place today because of Fureaters review. Natalie did a great job on the massage. She really knows what she's doing but it was just a massage. I brought my "own" on fureaters recommendation, showed it and offered $$ then $$$ and then $$$$ (never intending more than $$) just to see if there was a breaking point. I then felt like a perv because she seems like a really sweet girl. I have been frequenting this website for quite a while and often wondered how true some of these reviews actually are. Has anyone else been mislead by a review in here?[/QUOTE]Stressed out won't tell you, but I will point out some of your mistakes.
Even the most experience mongers won't do what you did. It sounds like you were listening to that old joke where a guy asks a woman to sleep with him for $1,000. She says yes and then he turns around and says how about 100. She says she is not that kind of woman, he in turn replies well we know what you are that has been established, we are just negotiating a price.
First of all, this was your first time to the place. Second, another monger reviewed and said nothing was available! He probably tried, but that should be a hint that you may run into the same problem. Some providers may wait a time or two before offering anything. Trust sometimes has to be developed. She does not know you from Adam. As far she knows you could be 1-Adam-12 aka LEO. You blatantly implied sex for money right off the bat. Very few providers will bite at that unless they are a crack-head jonesin' for their next hit. If she said NO for 100 she is not going to say yes for 200, 300 or 400. It makes you look like an ass and reinforces that you don't know schitt and you could be a cop on his first under cover assignment. If she does do something she will take the money and condom and say thank you and that is it. She might ask you what you want later.
At a new place you need to be subtle. When you change, there is usually a table where you can empty out your pockets, like keys and cell phones. If you want, you can put a three or four Jacksons in the fold of your cell phone or something or just leave a couple of Jacksons straight out on the table. If she asks what it is four, just say that is tip money. Don't say anything else about extras. If she says that doesn't look like much of a tip, BINGO, then you can say that you have more and that is where the negotiation starts. Let her initiate it though. If she doesn't say anything right away, just go by her response to some of your actions.
To figure out if you are getting warm (how many times have I said this), when she is at the head of the massage table doing your shoulders reach around and run your hands GENTLY, up and down her legs and ass. Sometimes they may go to the top early and you may not feel comfortable right off. I have had other ladies just work from the sides only. When they got near the top around my shoulders, I would let my arm dangle out and start going up and down their thigh. If you get no resistance, you most likely will get a happy ending. If they resist or tense up, forget about it. When you flip, you have more freedom with your arm and you can work on their ass if it is in reach or comes in reach. If I get no resistance to the ass then I go under the shirt. That is when the fun starts.
There are a couple of providers that I have seen for a while. We are comfortable enough to with each other that I usually put the tip out right next to the massage oil, before the massage starts. No need to say a word. Most of the time they will acknowledge it and say thank you. Nothing beats the sound, while your are still on your stomach, of a bra coming off and pants sliding down; then when you flip your provider is buck naked standing next to you, for you to take in.
In summary, you screwed up. A newbie mistake. However, your name and face is Mudd if you ever go back there and try to use that provider. We have all made mistakes the first few times. Just try not to be so stupid next time.
wet
I have a certificate to spa B in Norwood. I have been there once before and I think I could have done better than the masseuse that I drew. I've read the previous reports so I have an idea of a couple of good therapists there but if anyone knows of a really good one that I should ask for please IM me, I will greatly appreciate your input and if I can help with places that I'm familiar with (those on the northshore) I will gladly return the favor. Of course I'll share my experience at spa b the next day.
Can someone please let me know the contact to WW J.
Thanks
Went back to see the new girl Cece who works with Tina in Danvers at Ivy Wellness 8187# on CL therapeutic.
She is cute, thin and tall, maybe 30s. Must have been a slow day because she asked if I wanted a 4 handed massage, well I figured Tina never disappointed in the past so I went for it. Cece worked the top and Tina worked the bottom. There was a lot of chit chat and while the legs were getting a pretty good massage Cece's technique left a lot to be desired, it felt like she was just pushing the skin around with no real thought or method and seemed more interested in talking than massaging.
There was very little teasing by either of the girls which was a surprise because I have gotten a lot of teasing and attention in that area from Tina on previous visits. On the flip there was very little build up and it was right into the action fast and quick, some roaming but not a lot. Was cleaned up and out the door in 40 minutes.
All in all very disappointed wouldn't recommend the 4 handed option
Tina has been good and I have seen her quite a number of times so I may give her another try and maybe try Cece solo and see if she was any better without the distraction of having someone to talk to.
. 7 +. 4 tip each generous I know but.
[QUOTE=Neddd]I have a certificate to spa B in Norwood. I have been there once before and I think I could have done better than the masseuse that I drew. I've read the previous reports so I have an idea of a couple of good therapists there but if anyone knows of a really good one that I should ask for please IM me, I will greatly appreciate your input and if I can help with places that I'm familiar with (those on the northshore) I will gladly return the favor. Of course I'll share my experience at spa b the next day.[/QUOTE]There was few posts in the last few days that listed the woman to avoid and the ones to request. I now ask who is on and book a time with a trusted therapist. I will also call up about 15 minutes prior to the appointment (I have a separate phone # so if they use caller ID it will not point to me). IF they say that therapist is not there that day etc I will cancel. I have had the bait and switch to me many times. I have even been double booked by receptionists at a few places as they claim many guys never show up.
Steve
[QUOTE=Markvi]Last Friday (3/21/08) I went to the place Bk recommended. The girl said her name is Jessica, and she just started the day before. Chinese, not especially young, poor English, wore only underwear and a blouse barely below butt.
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Well it's been almost a year and I tried this place again. Kelly said she is there only for 2 weeks and Friday is returning to New York, so this report may be of little use. Like last time, it was 70 for house and Kelly asked for tip first -- also like Jessica did a year ago. May be their standard procedure.
Massage was good but not exceptional. Part of Kelly's technique is climbing with her knees onto edge of the table, which places my arm across her calves and her nether regions within very easy reach of that arm. And AMP-ly demonstrates her lack of underwear.
When I flipped and she asked for tip, I gave her 40. She made a face and asked "you want me to take dress off? Sixty" Never made it clear whether she'd go for 40 clothed, but I agreed. She dropped the dress (nothing under it, as I knew) and did rather mechanical HJ. Fine with roaming, but no fingers in the ass. All in all, somewhat less satisfactory experience than last time. Doubt I will go there again, unless someone else posts a better review.
I noticed something odd. When I came in, Kelly asked "Are you here for massage?" Well, duh, what else would I be there for? But now I googled their phone number, and it comes up more for escorts than for massage. Hmm...
I realize this isn't the purpose of the forum and I apologize to Mr Jackson ahead of time. I am in search of a good friend to this forum MG (mature gentleman). He has given me and others many reports and referrals in the past. I sent him a shout and it came back as undeliverable. I don't know if he retired or had to change his handle. If he is around or anyone knows of his e-mail or USASG handle please forward it to me. And again I apologize to all of you and Mr Jackson for this post. Thanks SO
Here's a thought. Did you for one minute ever think that some of these girls have families, boyfriends, husbands, children? No, I didn't think so!
What you are putting out there in print is making its way back to the girls and some have decided to fight back. It will be simple. We are slowly starting to figure out who you are, that's right, some of us have brains, can you believe it.
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?
[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]My friend, if you are speaking about today, that was me in the next room.
J. Was just about finished with me when the door chimes and she had to leave to open it for you. I had started out at the gym earlier this morning and that experience left me with an aching back. Jessica does give a great massage.
LE does patrol the street regularly to look for chronic meter violators such as BostonAMP. The tickets are $10. Next time I will park at McD's or Dunkin's up the street.
BTW, I actually went over to WW last night but because of heavy Monger traffic I had to wait: 45. Normally I wouldn't mind taking a nap on the table, but as it happened, I got an emergency message on my cell phone while waiting, so I quietly left; later called J. , who kindly let me return this AM.
Methinks WW is getting too popular. They were sure busy last night and earlier today.[/QUOTE]Lol, Sorry about the interruption. You know I always wondered why the mamasans can't answer the damn door since they aren't busy anyway. The same thing happened to me while I was at FY too.
Hey all,
I thought I would post an old trip I had to Lily massage in Watertown. It was back in November or so.
Short and sweet version. So-so massage with no extra anything, no roam and no finish. It started promising but the girl that started the massage, the one that seemed to point to a thumbs up, swapped out with a different gal and the new girl was all business.
Not sure why they switched but I didn't even get a DIY.
J4f
Hope there are no typo's!
[QUOTE=B Fun]
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]
I am not sure your post was directed at my previous one, but I will respond assuming it was. First, there is no chance "Kelly" was her real name. One thing she did not look was stupid. B Fun, do [i]you[/i] give your real name to some guy you just met?
Second, the purpose of this forum is to provide "consumer report"-style feedback. There is no way to do that without SOME way of identifying the provider -- and that's what "nom de guerre" are for.
And third, if you find my lame pun ("AMP-ly demonstrates her lack of underwear") degrading and insensitive, then you should be in a different line of work. Titillating the man is part of your job. Commenting on the technique is part of this forum's purpose. Other mongers will choose to visit or not visit her based on my feedback -- and in fact one already inquired, which means my "degrading and insensitive" comment just got Kelly more business. Even though [i]I[/i] am not going back to her.
This describes alomost all of us. You forgot your biggest complaint, CHEAP!
"Warn us" I think it will work. We're scared now. We're so scared.... we'll just stay away.
[QUOTE=B Fun]
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]
I had been interested in learning more about a provider in Canton who posts regularly (number ending in 8059.) A quck search of the board revealed only a passing reference or two, saying she was hot, but, at least in one case, it was draped the whole time.
Saw her advertising in RI which got my radar up a bit. Called her and it was in a hotel. She asked "do I need to bring my table or is the bed fine?" Radar up again so I went for it. Quoted $80 for sweedish or $100 for deep tissue.
Arrived, and she is more cute than hot in my opinion. Asian, but I think more of an Asian mix. Young, spinner type. Again, a cute girl.
Massage was pretty good. She claims to be certified. It was decent enough to think that might be true, but not so good that I am convinced. it was undraped the entire time so I was feeling good about what was going to happen.
No teasing at all while face down. Flipped, still undraped, but still no teasing. We're in a hotel in Pawtucket, RI so I figure I have nothing to lose so I outright ask. She says yes, but it is extra. Expected that and was happy by the development.
Now this is where things get just plain silly. She wanted:
$60 extra for a clothed HR with NO touching
$100 extra for a topless HR with NO touching.
$150 for a nude HR with touching (but she was very clear it was just touching up top and)
Said she will do FS for certain people (claims to be picky, but would do so with me) for $300. Yes, $300. Wow, lucky me.
Bottom line...avoid. SHe's one of those that seems to feel she is doing you a favor by offering extras. She seems paranoid, frigid, etc. so even if one was so inclined to spend $380 for FS (shaking my head just thinking about such a ridiculous figure) I have to think it would be about as fun as screwing a blow up doll.
In the spirit of full disclosure, I did opt for the 60 option as I was there and thinking a bit with the little head. Convinved her to take top off but she kept bra on. Wow, again, lucky me. HR was uninspired and mechanical at best.
So I'm out 140 for a decent massage and lacluster HR. I am an experienced and normally level headed hobbiyist and have walked away from many situations so a bit pissed at myself for giving the extra 60, but what can I say, it was late in the day, I had to get home and had no other options.
Write this so anyone else curious like I was chooses to avoid. She thinks far too highly of herself. There are better out there. Better in quality. And better in looks, though she would probably disagree.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=B Fun]Here's a thought. Did you for one minute ever think that some of these girls have families, boyfriends, husbands, children? No, I didn't think so!
What you are putting out there in print is making its way back to the girls and some have decided to fight back. It will be simple. We are slowly starting to figure out who you are, that's right, some of us have brains, can you believe it.
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ? [/QUOTE]Ok, lets try having an open conversation. And make it work for all involved.
A) are some people morons. Yes, simple answer.
B) will people figure out who people are on here yes (and you. A particular american spa who has gotten waaay too much publish lately).
C) I would say that people can give out names or abbreviated names to conceal those that cannot defend themselves. If there is something that was written down that was degrading. Pm those people to edit the information.
D) I would also say that if there is something that would increase your level of service, please by all means help us morons out. On the other hand if you get $60 for a HJ, because you are simply the best. But fail miserably to measure up. Then it is what it is.
There are certain facilities that I no longer visit for certain reasons of my own. A) the owner posts fake positive reports, b) Outlandish tipping requests, c) over population and reports regarding it.
To end it all on a happy note. Keep up the good work! Fight for what you deserve! And when you least expect it you will find a gem.
[QUOTE=B Fun]Here's a thought. Did you for one minute ever think that some of these girls have families, boyfriends, husbands, children? No, I didn't think so!
What you are putting out there in print is making its way back to the girls and some have decided to fight back. It will be simple. We are slowly starting to figure out who you are, that's right, some of us have brains, can you believe it.
We will start by letting you know what we think of you! Example: Smelly, disgusting, pervert, excessively hairy, bad breath and so on! This example was kind to say the least. We thought it only fair to warn you first of what will be coming. Some of you guys have gone to the point of naming the girl with such blatant disregard, it is frightening.
Are you all this way, no, some of you that we have massaged have been incredibly kind and perfect gentlemen. You have not over stepped in any way and treated the girls with respect, and to you we say thank you, truly.
The rest of you who have made this forum a cheap way to degrade the profession will in fact learn that this game can, and will start going both ways.
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]Here's a thought, if you really are a girl from one of the spa's, how about trying to develop a better working relationship with your customer base instead of ranting over something as trivial as mentioning someone's fake name? We are here to assist one another with reviews of our experiences so others will know where to go and where not to go in order to meet their expectations. Naming a girl is the only way to share our experience, especially with Asian spa's. How else do we describe a girl...she was Asian, short, with black hair...that doesn't narrow it down too much. We do our best to be discreet, but it's a fine line to walk when trying to recommend a place or specific girl, while trying not to spell everything out for the whole world to decipher.
As for personal hygiene, yes, clients should at the very least shower, trim their fingernails and pop a breath mint before arriving at the spa, even if they offer showers at the spa, why go there all funky? Also, subtle behavior will be more rewarding than going right for the goods. If you attempt to jam your finger up a girls ass from the start, that's not cool. Start off slow and work your way into a girl's comfort zone. She'll let you know if you're going too far, and you won't risk turning her off and/or scaring her off from the start.
Providers should be a little more forthcoming too. If early in the session a guy is stroking your leg, yet you have no intention of providing a HE, then be up front about it from the start, don't lead them on by allowing us to touch and then leave us hanging at the end. I understand you need to be cautious about undercover stings, but I've been to spa's that will flirt and allow touching for an entire hour and then offer no options at the end.
Lastly, try to do something about the constant interruptions at these spa's. There is no reason a girl should have to stop in the middle of a massage to answer her cell phone or leave the room to greet another customer. If you are that busy pay someone to handle all calls and walk-ins. Some visits I was interrupted about 5 or 6 times in one hour, to me that's unacceptable.
Most of us appreciate a good massuese, and we are only trying to give her some more business and help her out by recommending others about her, and at the same time we help one another out. We aren't trying to get her in trouble or jam her up in any way. So if you are truly acting in the interest of the girls, how about meeting us halfway and letting us know the do's and don'ts and what YOUR expectations are for a happy and pleasant experience for both parties involved? Let's work with one another, not against...cool?
Read many but still undecided on which RI AMP is the best, also in value.
I'm thinking that 40 for a BJ in an AMP shows good negotiating skills.
[QUOTE=B Fun]
How would your wives, girlfriends, co-workers, and children like to know that you thought it was funny to name some girl that you tipped $40. For a BJ?[/QUOTE]
Have you spent any time in the RI Forum? Great source for info. The top spots in my opinion FS Japan Spa, Harmony and Central Health, but have lately seen good reports on One Spa and Diamond. For HJ only, Lily, Pleasant and No. Main St. All of the last 3 also provide a very good massage as well. My personal favorite is Harmony and a provider named Miki. It has been a while so not sure she is still there, but she is very hot and into giving good service. Gina at Pleasant is also very good.
Jack
I am definitely becoming a regular at centennial. Maria knows me so well that she doesn’t even take my hf at the door anymore. I almost forgot to pay her on my way out. So anyway, I went to cent and chose Stacy. I almost didn’t pick her because she has a smile like a broken picket feince, but I'm glad I did. The massage was excellent, better than expected, and the teasing was plentiful. On the flip she asked what I wanted and I said fs, and the show was on. Stacy's body isn't perfect, she could lose a few pounds, her tits are a bit saggy, but her ass is big and juicy which is the kind of ass I like. Stacy was a pleasure to be with, she made the session all about me and what I want. I am an ass man, and boy did I have a whole lot of fun with that ass. I had her cowgirl, and doggy and her "gatito" was surprisingly very tight, given what she does for a living. She let me take my time, so I f'ed her real hard till I was weak in the knees. After I was done she gave me a slow HJ while she cleaned me up.
Like I said Stacy isn't the prettiest girl at centennial but she is definitely worth the ride.
Looks - 6
massage - 8
extras - 10
damage - 60 hf, 100 tip
[QUOTE=Wetseeker]Stressed out won't tell you, but I will point out some of your mistakes.
Even the most experience mongers won't do what you did. It sounds like you were listening to that old joke where a guy asks a woman to sleep with him for $1,000. She says yes and then he turns around and says how about 100. She says she is not that kind of woman, he in turn replies well we know what you are that has been established, we are just negotiating a price.
First of all, this was your first time to the place. Second, another monger reviewed and said nothing was available! He probably tried, but that should be a hint that you may run into the same problem. Some providers may wait a time or two before offering anything. Trust sometimes has to be developed. She does not know you from Adam. As far she knows you could be 1-Adam-12 aka LEO. You blatantly implied sex for money right off the bat. Very few providers will bite at that unless they are a crack-head jonesin' for their next hit. If she said NO for 100 she is not going to say yes for 200, 300 or 400. It makes you look like an ass and reinforces that you don't know schitt and you could be a cop on his first under cover assignment. If she does do something she will take the money and condom and say thank you and that is it. She might ask you what you want later.
At a new place you need to be subtle. When you change, there is usually a table where you can empty out your pockets, like keys and cell phones. If you want, you can put a three or four Jacksons in the fold of your cell phone or something or just leave a couple of Jacksons straight out on the table. If she asks what it is four, just say that is tip money. Don't say anything else about extras. If she says that doesn't look like much of a tip, BINGO, then you can say that you have more and that is where the negotiation starts. Let her initiate it though. If she doesn't say anything right away, just go by her response to some of your actions.
To figure out if you are getting warm (how many times have I said this), when she is at the head of the massage table doing your shoulders reach around and run your hands GENTLY, up and down her legs and ass. Sometimes they may go to the top early and you may not feel comfortable right off. I have had other ladies just work from the sides only. When they got near the top around my shoulders, I would let my arm dangle out and start going up and down their thigh. If you get no resistance, you most likely will get a happy ending. If they resist or tense up, forget about it. When you flip, you have more freedom with your arm and you can work on their ass if it is in reach or comes in reach. If I get no resistance to the ass then I go under the shirt. That is when the fun starts.
There are a couple of providers that I have seen for a while. We are comfortable enough to with each other that I usually put the tip out right next to the massage oil, before the massage starts. No need to say a word. Most of the time they will acknowledge it and say thank you. Nothing beats the sound, while your are still on your stomach, of a bra coming off and pants sliding down; then when you flip your provider is buck naked standing next to you, for you to take in.
In summary, you screwed up. A newbie mistake. However, your name and face is Mudd if you ever go back there and try to use that provider. We have all made mistakes the first few times. Just try not to be so stupid next time.
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I laughed when I read this. How true. I got the Numbskull Award a few weeks back when I asked for a half hour since I was in a rush. I forgot that our Asian friends don't care for that approach. I've done this a few times over the years and it always results in a poor experince even from established providers. Not a newbie but still made a newbie mistake.
Excellent post, Vintage! I am really getting tired of these interruptions, even at the best places. What's worse, you know very well that the time taken out of the room to answer the phones, chat with Mamasan and answer the door for the next Monger is not added back in to the time remaining in a session. In other words, interruptions are irritating, and we the customers are paying for them!
[QUOTE=vintage68]Lastly, try to do something about the constant interruptions at these spa's. There is no reason a girl should have to stop in the middle of a massage to answer her cell phone or leave the room to greet another customer. If you are that busy pay someone to handle all calls and walk-ins. Some visits I was interrupted about 5 or 6 times in one hour, to me that's unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Art Guy]Went back to see the new girl Cece who works with Tina in Danvers at Ivy Wellness 8187# on CL therapeutic.
She is cute, thin and tall, maybe 30s. Must have been a slow day because she asked if I wanted a 4 handed massage, well I figured Tina never disappointed in the past so I went for it. Cece worked the top and Tina worked the bottom. There was a lot of chit chat and while the legs were getting a pretty good massage Cece's technique left a lot to be desired, it felt like she was just pushing the skin around with no real thought or method and seemed more interested in talking than massaging.
There was very little teasing by either of the girls which was a surprise because I have gotten a lot of teasing and attention in that area from Tina on previous visits. On the flip there was very little build up and it was right into the action fast and quick, some roaming but not a lot. Was cleaned up and out the door in 40 minutes.
All in all very disappointed wouldn't recommend the 4 handed option
Tina has been good and I have seen her quite a number of times so I may give her another try and maybe try Cece solo and see if she was any better without the distraction of having someone to talk to.
. 7 +. 4 tip each generous I know but.[/QUOTE]I've seen Tina a couple of times and I must say that my experience is that she has been more businesslike regarding the finish than others have reported. Her massage technique prior to the finish, however, is good.
The location kind of freaks me out too. It's smack dab in the middle of a residential neighborhood.
[QUOTE=Boston Ampfan]Excellent post, Vintage! I am really getting tired of these interruptions, even at the best places. What's worse, you know very well that the time taken out of the room to answer the phones, chat with Mamasan and answer the door for the next Monger is not added back in to the time remaining in a session. In other words, interruptions are irritating, and we the customers are paying for them![/QUOTE]When I goto any place I just bring a Personal Cell Phone Signal Blocker Device (google it and DxxxXxxx is the website), works wonders, just as I am going in, on goes the power button and utter cell phone silence for the time I am there.
Enjoy and stay safe.
QA
Hello,
Has anyone tried or have any info on:
[url]http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/1038488420.html[/url]
Wow she looks like her body certainly rocks!
They must have moved from:
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Thanks
I am a first time poster, but have used the site for info on area places before. Some of your comments have been very helpful, but in other cases down right rude and disgusting. Maybe "B Fun" wasn't too far off the mark in how we all can be. Most facilities have showers available so why don't you just use them? How many of you guys can have respect for these girls if you can't even respect yourself and clean up before hand.
The few of you out here that consistently disrespect the profession are making it incredibly uncomfortable for us guys who actually care about our providers and their feelings. It's no wonder that some of the girls are thinking about fighting back, unfortunately the decent guys may end up paying the price for the a**holes that always ruin a good thing!
And as far as Momo is concerned, you staying away is like refusing season tickets to the Pats from Bob Kraft personally. Paleeze!
Avoid!!! The girl is huge! Apparently only 1/2 chinese and a BUW. Service was lousy too. Why I didn't turn and walk is beyond me. I can't believe I forked over 1.6.
[QUOTE=Boston Dynasty]Hello,
Has anyone tried or have any info on:
[url]http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/1038488420.html[/url]
Wow she looks like her body certainly rocks!
They must have moved from:
[url]http://boston. Backpage.com/BodyRubs/nude_erotic_bodyrubs_w4m_20_burlington_area_/classifieds/ViewAd? Oid=1521838[/url]
Thanks[/QUOTE]
If you search in CL you will find a cute pic of a blonde. Her ads have both the 4092 and 3813 number.
[url]http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/1015708219.html[/url]
[url]http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/1026118992.html[/url]
Now i agree that both these girls look good but the rumor on CL is that our friend MJ is back. Now I don't quite remember the dope on him but he was a stay away even though his girls were young and cute. Maybe someone can fill in why he was an avoid. SO
Hi All, a week ago yesterday went to WW at 5 PM, called from 5 minutes out and asked for appt. , and specifically asked if Jessica was available for me, she said yes. I happen to really enjoy a strong massage with my HR and Jessica has been the best I have ever had, incl. A half-dozen CT AMPs and any Brazilian MP or American MP. I traveled a long distance, 40 miles.
Well, 15 min. Into the great massage Chow Shi comes in and Jessica asks me to let her take over. Being one who cannot say no to a new conquest I agreed. Well, Chow Shi is a little younger than J and no less attractive, though certainly not a babe. Pleasant enough body, very sweet girl. Her massage was just not as strong as J's, more rubbing the skin, etc. BUT: Her finish was much better than J's. Great tease before the flip, nice and slow after the flip, plenty of time with the ass crack and boys. Took the whole thing versus the top half at the finish like J tends to do. I took control of her top, pulled the bra up and sucked 'them both and she really got into it. So it looks like once again there is no perfect provider, always have to make a choice.
Let me get this straight Jeff, you've used are reports and valuable info before but only choose to post now in order to chastise the members of this board for their language and supposed occasional bad hygiene? First off the mission statement of this site is that it is a site for men seeking women for sex, you should expect no better language here than you would hear at a bar or sporting event. Secondly these providers are all full grown women out to make money, I have never been to a place, or seen one reviewed on this board where I felt the provider could not refuse me service if she wanted to. If girls want to massage foul smelling dudes that is totally on them and if they don't want to they should stop. So in closing thank you Father Jeff for giving us all a reality check and please keep on using are research for your benefit without giving any out, your paternal advice is worth far more.
[QUOTE=Stressed Out]If you search in CL you will find a cute pic of a blonde. Her ads have both the 4092 and 3813 number.
[url]http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/1015708219.html[/url]
[url]http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/ers/1026118992.html[/url]
Now I agree that both these girls look good but the rumor on CL is that our friend MJ is back. Now I don't quite remember the dope on him but he was a stay away even though his girls were young and cute. Maybe someone can fill in why he was an avoid. SO[/QUOTE]Mj would save your phone # and call you anytime to tell you about new girls and has even outed a someone out on CL posting his real name phone # and Address. He even called his wife and outed him.
Plus when girls have left him he had them busted.
Jeff, or B Fun, if your not the same person, I reread both your reports. I was confused at what exactly you were complaining about. Bfun complained that we were using names and that some of us were rude and disgusting in what we wrote. Most of us want to know the names of the 'good' providers so we can ask for them and avoid the 'bad' providers. This is what this forum is for. The good providers are rewarded by getting the bulk of the business. The bad providers either improve or move on to another profession.
Many of us are gentlemen and are well behaved when we visit these parlors. Unforunately, like in the real world, there are some of us that act like jerks. My guess is that before October of last year, things were quiet at these spas. But then the fellas in this forum have discovered you and your traffic has increased. Now with those increased numbers comes an increase in the number of jerks. Its just part of the population. So Jeff, if you are not Bfun, in behalf of my fellow mongers, I apologize for making you 'uncomfortable'.
Jeff, very few of these places have showers. Spa A and B are the exception. The other places are not as clean and I would not feel safe using their showers. But I agree that we should all maintain good hygiene and a quick wash up,and a breath mint goes a long ways.
But this whole drama thing about 'fighting back' and the threat of telling our wives and children is absurd. Bfun, the ladies' boyfriends,husbands etc do not read this forum. If they fear this, then they should use aliases like we all do. This forum is not a soiree, this is a sex forum where we discuss sex. If you do'nt like it change the chanel. Just like we can change the chanel on you and go some where else.
[QUOTE=Jeff Gage]I am a first time poster, but have used the site for info on area places before. Some of your comments have been very helpful, but in other cases down right rude and disgusting. Maybe "B Fun" wasn't too far off the mark in how we all can be. Most facilities have showers available so why don't you just use them? How many of you guys can have respect for these girls if you can't even respect yourself and clean up before hand.
The few of you out here that consistently disrespect the profession are making it incredibly uncomfortable for us guys who actually care about our providers and their feelings. It's no wonder that some of the girls are thinking about fighting back, unfortunately the decent guys may end up paying the price for the a**holes that always ruin a good thing!
And as far as Momo is concerned, you staying away is like refusing season tickets to the Pats from Bob Kraft personally. Paleeze![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=QA911]When I goto any place I just bring a Personal Cell Phone Signal Blocker Device (google it and DxxxXxxx is the website), works wonders, just as I am going in, on goes the power button and utter cell phone silence for the time I am there.
Enjoy and stay safe.
QA[/QUOTE]
I'm quite certain that such a device would violate all kinds of FCC regulations. How could you post such an illegal suggestion on such a law abiding forum... oh wait, I forgot where I am... I'm going to have to pick one of these up, will come in very handy with a couple of providers I know...
Just saw this on CL. I think the AMPs are finally learning basic economics.
Bad Economy + Higher Rates = Fewer Mongers
Lower Rates = More Mongers = Money Coming In
Far East should get an award for being one of the first to get the message.
And look Mr. Obama, NO FEDERAL BAILOUT REQUIRED.
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[QUOTE=Perfect Man]Mj would save your phone # and call you anytime to tell you about new girls and has even outed a someone out on CL posting his real name phone # and Address. He even called his wife and outed him.
Plus when girls have left him he had them busted.[/QUOTE]
Read that he is a problem and that a girl named Rose who does massages on the No. Shore is still with him. He was or is from NH right?
[QUOTE=Leggeddog]Read that he is a problem and that a girl named Rose who does massages on the No. Shore is still with him. He was or is from NH right?[/QUOTE]Last I knew he still resided in NH
[QUOTE=Kenn Jack]Have you spent any time in the RI Forum? Great source for info. The top spots in my opinion FS Japan Spa, Harmony and Central Health, but have lately seen good reports on One Spa and Diamond. For HJ only, Lily, Pleasant and No. Main St. All of the last 3 also provide a very good massage as well. My personal favorite is Harmony and a provider named Miki. It has been a while so not sure she is still there, but she is very hot and into giving good service. Gina at Pleasant is also very good.
Jack[/QUOTE]
Duh!!!!! should have read the Ri forum. Thanks for the 411