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[QUOTE=Jjjapd;5597344]I suppose- this jack off thinks he's got something special with said provider. We used to call it "white knighting".[/QUOTE]I remember when I got started in the hobby, and the most important piece of advice I ever got was about your status with *any* sex worker: "friendly, but not friends. ".
You might be physically intimate, but that's as far as it goes.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5599448]Visit the strip clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, and Lincoln Park, not Detroit proper. Detroit clubs had to dismantle their private areas a few years ago.
Detroit has one of the best club scenes as far as action and value go. Not stunning girls as in FL, TX, Vegas, but athey are available for extras at a far better price point. They vary from dive bars to upscale clubs; both types in Inkster, across the street from each other.
The escort arena in Detroit has gone way downhill over the past decade plus with the demise of backpage and a couple of area boards. Lots of marginal providers with middle tier pricing; not much in the middle, and a sparse market for luxury-tupe companions, most who are visiting.
Massage market is marginal compared to other cities.
Streetwalkers are for local consumption, only. The areas and characters are best left to seasoned local mongers.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Are the strip clubs a good option even on a Sunday or Monday night?
[QUOTE=Nedder;5600814]Thank you. Are the strip clubs a good option even on a Sunday or Monday night?[/QUOTE]Monday is popular at Henry's ($10 dance night), so a lot of girls show, like on Friday and Saturday. I was there this past Monday and saw several to my liking, two of them new to me. Now please don't insult the dancers by trying to pay them $10, (regular price is 20) as they are looking mainly to do extras and they aren't going to do five songs for $50, when they can make more than that in a couple songs doing extras. The 10 buck dance night is there to drum up customers. Bogarts does $10 night on Tuesday.
The advantage to a Sunday night is that it is slower and girls may bargain more, plus one can spend more time chatting with them. Some clubs may not be open on Sundays.
Be sure to read the Strip Club thread for more, and better information.
[QUOTE=Jjjapd;5597277]I've been a member of these sites for years (20+ years or so). In the past I had confidence that whatever was posted in a mens room forum stayed in said forum. If I'm asking fellow hobbyists for information on a provider I want to see the last thing I would expect would be a fellow hobbyist to flap their jaws to said provider.
That doesn't seem to be the case here.
Makes me very apprehensive about asking or posting a review.
I'm sure you know who you are and the provider I'm referring to.
She sent me screenshots of your conversation with her about my posting of her pics and asking about her.[/QUOTE]You should post his forum handle. This board is for like minded mongers to exchange information to make this hobby safer and to weed out the bullshit.
This mongers name is relevant information for all of us IMO.
[QUOTE=JoeyRamone;5601206]You should post his forum handle. This board is for like minded mongers to exchange information to make this hobby safer and to weed out the bullshit.
This mongers name is relevant information for all of us IMO.[/QUOTE]I agree share the white knighters name and let him defend himself if he so chooses.
It is really annoying and very naive of these dudes to go running to the providers with info.
[QUOTE=JoeyRamone;5601206]You should post his forum handle. This board is for like minded mongers to exchange information to make this hobby safer and to weed out the bullshit.
This mongers name is relevant information for all of us IMO.[/QUOTE]Methinks that this whole topic belongs on the Motor City Mayhem thread.
And yes, there are some real douche canoes on this board; one white knight ended up on the banned list, recently. His bromance partner is still here, though.
[QUOTE=Jjjapd;5597277]I've been a member of these sites for years (20+ years or so). In the past I had confidence that whatever was posted in a mens room forum stayed in said forum. If I'm asking fellow hobbyists for information on a provider I want to see the last thing I would expect would be a fellow hobbyist to flap their jaws to said provider.
That doesn't seem to be the case here.
Makes me very apprehensive about asking or posting a review.
I'm sure you know who you are and the provider I'm referring to.
She sent me screenshots of your conversation with her about my posting of her pics and asking about her.[/QUOTE]IDK what 'mens page' you're talking about, but to think you've done this for 20+ years and posted with confidence things stayed in forums I'm not sure why or where you've been. Even with the sites with private rooms and true seniors, dudes always leaked.
Dudes will share always. With the exception of this site women mostly have gotten control of the guys that run the sites or enough of the members to make sure that's the case.
I wouldn't be sure at all they know who they are or the provider. It's probably half the guys and women trying to get the upperhand on info. It's been that way for easily 10-15 years.
[QUOTE=Jackknoff;5601231]I agree share the white knighters name and let him defend himself if he so chooses.
It is really annoying and very naive of these dudes to go running to the providers with info.[/QUOTE]Nothing worse than getting with a girl that's pissed at you because of a report you made.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5601489]Methinks that this whole topic belongs on the Motor City Mayhem thread.
And yes, there are some real douche canoes on this board; one white knight ended up on the banned list, recently. His bromance partner is still here, though.[/QUOTE]Yeah I saw he got hit with the ban hammer. I figured that was the guy running back to the provider. Maybe not.
Damn talk about a white knight. He's probably over there right now washing her car.
Hey everyone,
I would like to share some other opportunities to finding some decent women at sometimes a budget cost, however some time is needed usually to get it too work.
A fellow Monger and myself have been traveling for years with work and have found it pretty easy to pick up women in the local clubs, bars etc. We like to unwind have a drink and check out the potentials. Many times buying a drink and having a conversation has led to many vehicle, hotel and sometimes their place encounters. I don't suggest going back to their place if you have your own that you can use, but sometimes the little head wins! Had several of FWB's relationships in many towns and except for a few crazies and changing to another burner #, it's been very fun and productive.
This is the time of year that many men leave to go deer hunting and I like to continue with the new Pu$$y hunting. Michigan and Michigan State game tomorrow and plenty of Bar Halloween themed parties!
Just wanted to throw it out there to some of you that may have the extra time on your hands to get out and try hunting in some other places than we're accustom too!
Good luck to everyone and remain safe.
[B]Sildenafil (AKA Viagra)[/B]
I can't remember who it was, but awhile back there were a few members asking about Viagra (they wanted to try it). If you're still looking for some, PM me.
[QUOTE=UltraFind77;5589330]That's disappointing.[/QUOTE]I drove by that place twice today. Earlier around 6 pn it looked open for business. The open sign was on. About five cars in front.
Later, about 8 I drove by and pulled in. It was closed for the day but the curbside only sign is gone. There's an anime poster, Attack on Titan on the door. That might be a clue.
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[QUOTE=Jjjapd;5597277]I've been a member of these sites for years (20+ years or so). In the past I had confidence that whatever was posted in a mens room forum stayed in said forum. If I'm asking fellow hobbyists for information on a provider I want to see the last thing I would expect would be a fellow hobbyist to flap their jaws to said provider.
That doesn't seem to be the case here.
Makes me very apprehensive about asking or posting a review.
I'm sure you know who you are and the provider I'm referring to.
She sent me screenshots of your conversation with her about my posting of her pics and asking about her.[/QUOTE]I've never had an expectations of anyone here acting normal. In fact I stopped recommending girls because 98% of the guys here don't follow through and only ask for pictures. Its a complete waste of our time. There is always some dude here sharing info with these girls trying to get a deal.
Wallet that is. What did you think I was talking about? If this topic has been discussed before, perhaps it's time to bring it back to present day, adjusted for inflation. With the rates I keep getting from providers I'm beginning to think I'm in the wrong hobby. I'm by no means broke, better than average income. But I want to know what I'm up against. I make in the range of 75-100 k a year.
There must be some big ballers out there because I was told recently that anything less than 300 for a Ss with what I would say was a 7-8/10 on the beauty scale provider was "low balling". Trying to see what and average guy in this hobby is making these days because man I can't justify spending that much on pussy.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5656551]Wallet that is. What did you think I was talking about? If this topic has been discussed before, perhaps it's time to bring it back to present day, adjusted for inflation. With the rates I keep getting from providers I'm beginning to think I'm in the wrong hobby. I'm by no means broke, better than average income. But I want to know what I'm up against. I make in the range of 75-100 k a year.[/QUOTE]I make 120 k base plus the occasional unpredictable bonuses. I feel like I spend wayyyy too much on the hobby but very rarely exceed 200 on a visit. I'm also in my late 20's with no wife or kids to drain my bank account.
[QUOTE=Tj144;5657184]I make 120 k base plus the occasional unpredictable bonuses. I feel like I spend wayyyy too much on the hobby but very rarely exceed 200 on a visit. I'm also in my late 20's with no wife or kids to drain my bank account.[/QUOTE]I'm older and prosperous but not rich. My ATFS are all 35-55 YO and clocking in around $160-$200/ hr. Lately I've been dabbing with younger and prettier girls and the cost to play roughly doubles when you approach girls in their 20's and bump the looks score to 7-8. I've paid as much as $400/ hr. But that was a special case and I seldom go that high.
Got to love these girls who post a grocery list of shit they won't do and tell you how much fun they are. Also, why say no cops or law enforcement? Like the cops are going to say, damn she won't let us come and arrest her lmao.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5656551]Wallet that is. What did you think I was talking about? If this topic has been discussed before, perhaps it's time to bring it back to present day, adjusted for inflation. With the rates I keep getting from providers I'm beginning to think I'm in the wrong hobby. I'm by no means broke, better than average income. But I want to know what I'm up against. I make in the range of 75-100 k a year.
There must be some big ballers out there because I was told recently that anything less than 300 for a Ss with what I would say was a 7-8/10 on the beauty scale provider was "low balling". Trying to see what and average guy in this hobby is making these days because man I can't justify spending that much on pussy.[/QUOTE]If you have to ask, you can't afford it. You probably do not make enough to be in this hobby full time. You also appear a bit gullible if you believe a SS is $300.
[QUOTE=LotharioPK;5657381]I'm older and prosperous but not rich. My ATFS are all 35-55 YO and clocking in around $160-$200/ hr. Lately I've been dabbing with younger and prettier girls and the cost to play roughly doubles when you approach girls in their 20's and bump the looks score to 7-8. I've paid as much as $400/ hr. But that was a special case and I seldom go that high.[/QUOTE]Or just go see Vanessa the hot MILF, everything you are looking for at a reasonable price.
[QUOTE=RockHard403;5691534]Got to love these girls who post a grocery list of shit they won't do and tell you how much fun they are. Also, why say no cops or law enforcement? Like the cops are going to say, damn she won't let us come and arrest her lmao.[/QUOTE]There is an urban legend among working girls that cops can't lie to you that they are a cop. Amazingly believed by most girls.
[QUOTE=Tommy101;5684591]Look up alita lee. She is beautiful and prob what your looking for. If I was freshly divorced she would be what I would want. Safe good time in upscale location. Worth every nickel IMHO.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Herrgen;5691884]Or just go see Vanessa the hot MILF, everything you are looking for at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]I love these go see girl X posts with no link. Guys please take the few extra seconds to copy and paste a link.
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5692634]I love these go see girl X posts with no link. Guys please take the few extra seconds to copy and paste a link.[/QUOTE]Supposedly Alita Lee is pregnant. You can search her on Pornhub for plenty of her videos. She was working out of Novi.
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[QUOTE=Lamarr;5693100]Supposedly Alita Lee is pregnant. You can search her on Pornhub for plenty of her videos. She was working out of Novi.[/QUOTE]I wasn't looking for her, but thanks anyways. The purpose of my post was to say if you're going to take the time to post and try and help someone out, then take a few more seconds to provide a link (in your case a PornHub link). When you the poster provides a link this eliminates any margin of error the searcher may have or make.
Here's an example: [I]You should go see Amber, she gives great head.[/I] Without a link the monger has to search for "Amber." How many "Amber's" do you think will show up in the returns?
[QUOTE=CrackHoreLover;5634571][B]Sildenafil (AKA Viagra)[/B]
I can't remember who it was, but awhile back there were a few members asking about Viagra (they wanted to try it). If you're still looking for some, PM me.[/QUOTE]Alldaychemist dot com is reliable and reasonably priced, FYI. Have Fun.
[QUOTE=Herrgen;5691884]Or just go see Vanessa the hot MILF, everything you are looking for at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]I emptied the box.
[QUOTE=Jp1225;5656551]Wallet that is. What did you think I was talking about? If this topic has been discussed before, perhaps it's time to bring it back to present day, adjusted for inflation. With the rates I keep getting from providers I'm beginning to think I'm in the wrong hobby. I'm by no means broke, better than average income. But I want to know what I'm up against. I make in the range of 75-100 k a year.
There must be some big ballers out there because I was told recently that anything less than 300 for a Ss with what I would say was a 7-8/10 on the beauty scale provider was "low balling". Trying to see what and average guy in this hobby is making these days because man I can't justify spending that much on pussy.[/QUOTE]I watch a lot of people struggle with costs. None of them are satisfied. I stay away from high volume escort boards. I go towards SA and sugar baby sites. Lot of guys treat these girls like list crawler hoes. Lots forget communication is key. I've had girls where they want 300 for first meet. Then you see them a couple times and the prices drop drastically if you develop good relationships. Got some real good deals, sometimes just paying 1/3 of what they want. Duos, foursomes etc so much more to be had if you got the patience. Much better satisfaction and a lot less time fucking around when you find the right regulars for you. Being down to earth gets me more than any of you guys with lots of money and shit attitudes. Respect goes a long way.
[QUOTE=PineKnob;5700710]Alldaychemist dot com is reliable and reasonably priced, FYI. Have Fun.[/QUOTE]I get sildenafil for $1. 50 per pill from the pharmacy at my doctors building. Should be a slam dunk if you ask your doctor for it. That price is without using my health insurance.
[QUOTE=PineKnob;5700710]Alldaychemist dot com is reliable and reasonably priced, FYI. Have Fun.[/QUOTE]I get sildenafil for $1. 50 per pill from the pharmacy at my doctors building. Should be a slam dunk if you ask your doctor for it. That price is without using my health insurance.
Ok everyone. We know BP going down left a debt. Craigs is barren most of the time. I no longer get responses on the Cuddle Sites.
Where can I go to find massages with some extras? Fetlife? Seeking arrangements?
I know there are plenty of places for escorts, but honestly I'm not looking for that and I like the illusion that when I see a girl for a massage, it's all legit and then *poof* it isn't. Make sense?
[QUOTE=Argongas1;5707633]Ok everyone. We know BP going down left a debt. Craigs is barren most of the time. I no longer get responses on the Cuddle Sites.
Where can I go to find massages with some extras? Fetlife? Seeking arrangements?
I know there are plenty of places for escorts, but honestly I'm not looking for that and I like the illusion that when I see a girl for a massage, it's all legit and then *poof* it isn't. Make sense?[/QUOTE]You might find some success on SUMO. [URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/tags/detroit-mi/massage-body-rubs[/URL].
[QUOTE=Argongas1;5707633]Ok everyone. We know BP going down left a debt. Craigs is barren most of the time. I no longer get responses on the Cuddle Sites.
[b]Where can I go to find massages with some extras?[/b] Fetlife? Seeking arrangements?
I know there are plenty of places for escorts, but honestly I'm not looking for that and I like the illusion that when I see a girl for a massage, it's all legit and then *poof* it isn't. Make sense?[/QUOTE]Try here. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4501-Massage-Parlor-Reports[/URL].
Posting this in Ann Arbor forum, too, but figured you'd be interested:
[URL]https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2022/01/sex-worker-group-urges-ann-arbor-officials-to-strike-down-local-prostitution-law.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Gerjon;5710207]Posting this in Ann Arbor forum, too, but figured you'd be interested:
[URL]https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2022/01/sex-worker-group-urges-ann-arbor-officials-to-strike-down-local-prostitution-law.html[/URL][/QUOTE]We should find and support these women LOL.
Any recommendations on short stay hotels in Brighton & Fenton areas? Trying to avoid a drive to the east, if I find someone on the west side.
[QUOTE=Mortar31;5704149]I get sildenafil for $1. 50 per pill from the pharmacy at my doctors building. Should be a slam dunk if you ask your doctor for it. That price is without using my health insurance.[/QUOTE]Download GoodRx. Can get 100 x 50 mg from Kroger for less than $20 no insurance. That's less than 20 cents a pill. Not sure why guys pay 10-50 times as much? I had a script for 120 pills and it was like $23 I believe.
I want to start saving some $ on hotels. Does anyone have any suggestions for short stays or cheap hotels in the Southfield or Redford area?
It's getting ridiculous to spend $70 for a couple of hours with my girl (s) every week. I've been doing Choice hotels and using points to get a free room from time to time, but I'm thinking finding a decent short stay would be better for my wallet.
But can you think outside of the box? First thing that comes to mind.
An inexpensive climate controlled 24 hour access storage unit would fit the bill nicely. Throw some lawn chairs into the unit. Maybe some used gymnastics equipment and a black light, or plain hay bales. Acoustic foam panels will give that high-end 'feel', no need with hay bales. A small bar with red Solo cups in the corner. Just bring ice.
Do you have someone to split costs with?
Upgrade and lease a commercial cafe or spacette from an urban innovator. Russell Industrial Center is central and lease small spaces. Classy.
[QUOTE=RayRaynor;5729975]I want to start saving some $ on hotels. Does anyone have any suggestions for short stays or cheap hotels in the Southfield or Redford area?
It's getting ridiculous to spend $70 for a couple of hours with my girl (s) every week. I've been doing Choice hotels and using points to get a free room from time to time, but I'm thinking finding a decent short stay would be better for my wallet.[/QUOTE]Call and ask about short stay and or day rates.
[URL]https://www.michigan.org/property/dorchester-motel[/URL]
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