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[QUOTE=Bob Blue]Oriental Rhyme's recent backpage ads are claiming "new staff." Has anyone been by there recently to see if things have improved? The last time I went I was shafted and not in a fun or enjoyable way either.[/QUOTE]
I went, hoping to see the new girl. Same old girl that's there all the time..."Queenie." Her attitude sux and the place smells like seaweed. I left. I think the "new girl" ploy is hoping to get some business in there.
Someone said on here (somewhere) that you 'cant get if you dont ask' or something to the effect. I believe this and use it in my daily life- all the time.
I'm posting in MP Reports because it's where I was at the time I decided to post and it seems relevant to current topics, however, for me this logic applies with all providers, period.
We can debate ettiquette, but once we know a service 'exists', there is NO point in hoping for it to occur or reoccur. Ask to get. It's very simple. All a pro can do is tell you 'no' or 'maybe next time'. To these answers I say, 'someone will' or 'there wont be a next time with you'.
As it has been pointed out by others, there are alot of choices. I remember not long ago when there weren't so many choices. What? Seems the total on MPs dont go up and down like the dow. So where are the limits in choices? The limits are economy (wallet) and behavior. Behavior is whether Leo is lurking this week or whether we are 'hoping' on the table or asking for services.
Get your behavior straight and you wont have anything, regarding limits, to complain about. Dont overpay, dont expect FS for .1. Be straight with your requests. I know people get nervous, but like I said, once you know it exists, what's to be nervous about? Handle your business and move on. Pass the word discreetly.
Continuing on. When a pro tells me 'dont talk about me' I tell her to get f*****! I do. Nobody tells me who to talk to or not. Dont accept that from anyone. Monica is anyone, even if you think she's special. If she requests you to not post her name, I do understand. Not talking about her is retarded. Word of mouth is how good business gets done. We all know this. Discretion is important, but not everything.
Upselling seems to be on the rise with the indies, so I have something on that too. When I get the upsell crap I ask them should I get dressed now or does the massage continue? Usually they will retreat but if they continue the upsell I get dressed and leave. On the way out I let them know I'll spread the good word. The ones that dont care, dont care. Get that? The ones that do and are only hustling you will care. Touring gals are likely to not care but not all of them. If you're being hustled and you know it, it's your fault. I'll explain. Some say they're thinking with the wrong head, but it falls under behavior. Get it in check and you wont have these problems. If you dont have them, I likely will not have them. So on and so forth. There are towns that have a culture of anything goes (regarding MPs). Im not talking Vegas, I am talking Warren, OH; Columbia, SC; Twin Cities, MN and the like. The people dont take getting screwed and thus a fruitful culture develops. In Charlotte, we have a melting pot. Everybody is different. Diversity training. MPs are staffed with foreigners. There is alot of diversity. For this to work and to be widely beneficial there has to be continuity and we have some work to do on that one.
This little thing of ours (la cosa nostra) has to be protected. We are the ones to do that, not the providers. Ask yourself if a particular favorite gets killed today will I stop getting services. I know if your atf is Monica alot of you will become priests and probably start molesting my kids, but aside form you few the behavior continues, therefore we should want to protect our hobby. To do this we do need to tighten up a bit here and there. Here we can use the PM system rather than spell it out for our buddies in blue and we can tell the pros that this is our game and we wont be screwed, unless the fee is reasonable (only kidding). Set the rules. To that end, every pro on bp thinks they are worth $$/h. Some look like supermodels and some look like they just pulled their new trailer home with their teeth. We all see this but ole gravel mouth still stays in business. How is that?
The short answer is behavior (mostly on our part). Some of us are paying the $$ for the mmbj (new term: meth mouth bj) and some of us are telling these skanks that $$ just isn't realistic in our heads and .4 is what were talking about. If you read this paragraph again, you may see two behaviors. One is getting screwed and knowing it and the other is getting our act straight and doing the hustle. Be in control of the hustle. Those of you who cant for whatever reason 'be in control' of the hustle are screwing the rest of us and yourself now and in the future.
Quick question: If the escorts are coming down on their prices, why would the price of a massage go up? If you have an answer I would love to try to understand it. Feel free to pm or post here.
Peace out.
Jolee from Nicole's in Salisbury now works here. I think that's already been reported. There is also another girl that used to work at both Nicole's and 2nd Breath (also in Salisbury) that just started at Ambrosia this weekend. She is blonde and in her early 40s, but I can't remember her name. No extras so far since they are both new and the headmaster over there seems to run a very tight ship. But they beefed up security, seem to kind of have a "lookout" system, and I have a feeling that things are going to soon finally be headed towards "extra extras" with the young americans who work there. That's just my impression. At the very least, though, you can get a great massage and great ending in an actual clean, dry location with charming people. Like a real spa, imagine that.
On another note, Spa74 has dropped way down in quality in my opinion. I was going there for a while, but no longer.
[QUOTE=Smoky R Wood]I went, hoping to see the new girl. Same old girl that's there all the time..."Queenie." Her attitude sux and the place smells like seaweed. I left. I think the "new girl" ploy is hoping to get some business in there.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for looking into it.
[QUOTE=Rental Holes]Someone said on here (somewhere) that you 'cant get if you dont ask' or something to the effect. I believe this and use it in my daily life- all the time.
I'm posting in MP Reports because it's where I was at the time I decided to post and it seems relevant to current topics, however, for me this logic applies with all providers, period.
We can debate ettiquette, but once we know a service 'exists', there is NO point in hoping for it to occur or reoccur. Ask to get. It's very simple. All a pro can do is tell you 'no' or 'maybe next time'. To these answers I say, 'someone will' or 'there wont be a next time with you'.
As it has been pointed out by others, there are alot of choices. I remember not long ago when there weren't so many choices. What? Seems the total on MPs dont go up and down like the dow. So where are the limits in choices? The limits are economy (wallet) and behavior. Behavior is whether Leo is lurking this week or whether we are 'hoping' on the table or asking for services.
Get your behavior straight and you wont have anything, regarding limits, to complain about. Dont overpay, dont expect FS for .1. Be straight with your requests. I know people get nervous, but like I said, once you know it exists, what's to be nervous about? Handle your business and move on. Pass the word discreetly.
Continuing on. When a pro tells me 'dont talk about me' I tell her to get f*****! I do. Nobody tells me who to talk to or not. Dont accept that from anyone. Monica is anyone, even if you think she's special. If she requests you to not post her name, I do understand. Not talking about her is retarded. Word of mouth is how good business gets done. We all know this. Discretion is important, but not everything.
Upselling seems to be on the rise with the indies, so I have something on that too. When I get the upsell crap I ask them should I get dressed now or does the massage continue? Usually they will retreat but if they continue the upsell I get dressed and leave. On the way out I let them know I'll spread the good word. The ones that dont care, dont care. Get that? The ones that do and are only hustling you will care. Touring gals are likely to not care but not all of them. If you're being hustled and you know it, it's your fault. I'll explain. Some say they're thinking with the wrong head, but it falls under behavior. Get it in check and you wont have these problems. If you dont have them, I likely will not have them. So on and so forth. There are towns that have a culture of anything goes (regarding MPs). Im not talking Vegas, I am talking Warren, OH; Columbia, SC; Twin Cities, MN and the like. The people dont take getting screwed and thus a fruitful culture develops. In Charlotte, we have a melting pot. Everybody is different. Diversity training. MPs are staffed with foreigners. There is alot of diversity. For this to work and to be widely beneficial there has to be continuity and we have some work to do on that one.
This little thing of ours (la cosa nostra) has to be protected. We are the ones to do that, not the providers. Ask yourself if a particular favorite gets killed today will I stop getting services. I know if your atf is Monica alot of you will become priests and probably start molesting my kids, but aside form you few the behavior continues, therefore we should want to protect our hobby. To do this we do need to tighten up a bit here and there. Here we can use the PM system rather than spell it out for our buddies in blue and we can tell the pros that this is our game and we wont be screwed, unless the fee is reasonable (only kidding). Set the rules. To that end, every pro on bp thinks they are worth $$/h. Some look like supermodels and some look like they just pulled their new trailer home with their teeth. We all see this but ole gravel mouth still stays in business. How is that?
The short answer is behavior (mostly on our part). Some of us are paying the $$ for the mmbj (new term: meth mouth bj) and some of us are telling these skanks that $$ just isn't realistic in our heads and .4 is what were talking about. If you read this paragraph again, you may see two behaviors. One is getting screwed and knowing it and the other is getting our act straight and doing the hustle. Be in control of the hustle. Those of you who cant for whatever reason 'be in control' of the hustle are screwing the rest of us and yourself now and in the future.
Quick question: If the escorts are coming down on their prices, why would the price of a massage go up? If you have an answer I would love to try to understand it. Feel free to pm or post here.
Peace out.[/QUOTE]This is short and simple-
My name has been dropped a lot with M to get an 'upgrade' so I feel a personal vested interest here. I have been asked by M to not mention her name on posts any longer.
Yes, I will comply.
Is this wrong? Am I whipped?
These are the wrong questions.
"Ask yourself if a particular favorite gets killed today will I stop getting services".
That is almost a correct question.
Ask yourself would you feel bad if a post you made with names got that person arrested?
I know my answer.
For this reason(and a few others) I will NEVER make another post about M ever again.
If a bartender who worked at a diveI liked who was good for conversation and had a heavy hand in pours me asked me to not advertise the later for fear of getting fired by the owner of said establishment, I would.
Same goes for the AMPs I enjoy.
These are not your ex-wives. They are girls trying to make a living. And if one or two go the extra mile to make you feel 'speical' that is not something to belly ache about like a spoiled child but rather something to celebrate and enjoy.
And hell, maybe even respect.
FOr this I will comply with M because she deserves celebration and most importantly respect.
I am under no illusions about what the nature of their job is but on the other hand I am under no illusion about the nature of their job.
The last statement is like jazz, if you have to ask, you don't know.
Back to point, treat good service with respect and celebrate what you had the good fortune to find. Just do it in private.
And don't mistake celebration and a recognition of such as delusional or being whipped by an AMP, etc
They deserve better
You give what you take.
My 2 1/2 cents.
Alot of what you thinks is irrelevant to my previous post. Try xanax.
This is short and simple-
=?
My name has been dropped a lot with M to get an 'upgrade' so I feel a personal vested interest here. I have been asked by M to not mention her name on posts any longer.
=I never mentioned your name in any posts, any MPs and never with Monica- ever. You use your real name on here? Feel free to drop mine if that's your thing. "You cum here befo? " "Yeah, I'm Sam, my buddy Rental Holes sent me, Can I get an upgrade? "
Yes, I will comply.
=great
Is this wrong? Am I whipped?
=Since you asked, maybe/ maybe not and YES
These are the wrong questions.
=You asked them, not I
"Ask yourself if a particular favorite gets killed today will I stop getting services".
That is almost a correct question.
=It's the exact question
Ask yourself would you feel bad if a post you made with names got that person arrested?
=I never did or would, so I have no guilt
I know my answer.
=great (x2)
For this reason(and a few others) I will NEVER make another post about M ever again.
=You just did pal. Just because you don't spell it out, the general audience here has their GED in hand and can decipher your M-code, especially when you quote a post with her name. Easy on that DaVinci stuff!
If a bartender who worked at a dive I liked who was good for conversation and had a heavy hand in pours me asked me to not advertise the later for fear of getting fired by the owner of said establishment, I would.
=great but irrelevant.
Same goes for the AMPs I enjoy.
=awesome
These are not your ex-wives. They are girls trying to make a living. And if one or two go the extra mile to make you feel 'special' that is not something to belly ache about like a spoiled child but rather something to celebrate and enjoy.
=Don't have any ex wives, are they yours? Monica never went any extra miles for me, but my OP wasn't about Monica it was about being assertive with all the 'Monicas' out there. Don't believe I was bellyaching or acting like a spoiled child, but I do know someone who's just a wee bit cranky today. Someone needs a nap!
And hell, maybe even respect.
=Uh, no?
FOr this I will comply with M because she deserves celebration and most importantly respect.
=Someone needs a psyche eval. My OP was not about complying. I'm stating rather emphatically that I don't work for no pro and therefore they don't order me around. If they were polite about it, cool. Being a beotch doesn't make me want to respect her or anyone else or follow her wishes. Plus I just paid $ to get scolded, I don't do that real well.
I am under no illusions about what the nature of their job is but on the other hand I am under no illusion about the nature of their job
=kind of redundant kind of redundant
The last statement is like jazz, if you have to ask, you don't know.
=it's a lot more like rhetorical and it was for the boys getting the up sell & rip-off, not you and your pal M. Read the forum. Prior to my OP there were discussions about upsells, ripoffs, fake pics and questions about how yall handle that. We got you Sam! Really. For the rest I was responding with my. 02
Back to point, treat good service with respect and celebrate what you had the good fortune to find. Just do it in private.
From my OP
=If she requests you to not post her name, I do understand. Not talking about her is retarded. Word of mouth is how good business gets done. We all know this. Discretion is important, but not everything.
And don't mistake celebration and recognition of such as delusional or being whipped by an AMP, etc
=you said it, not me.
They deserve better
=How is this a response to my post? Also, I'm a nice guy. I treat all people nicely. I never said anything derogatory except perhaps 'don't take shit from pros'
You give what you take.
=I leave twenties and take very little!
My 2 1/2 cents.
=That was about eight cents but I'll let you slide, just don't make it a habit.
For everyone else: Clearly this was meant for Sam and those that read his previous post and thought about hopping on the bandwagon.
I don't know any MP pros that I can honestly say I respect. I do however, treat them with respect. Dignity is on them though. If Sam or anyone wishes to respect them, cool. Like religion, you shouldn't push that on the rest of us. I would classify my behavior as 'being good to them'. I don't love them or cherish the time we spend, I just enjoy it.
My OP was about being assertive to get what you're looking for. I think everyone got it except Sam. Peace out Sam and Monica.
RH
[QUOTE=Rental Holes]Alot of what you thinks is irrelevant to my previous post. Try xanax.
This is short and simple-
=?
My name has been dropped a lot with M to get an 'upgrade' so I feel a personal vested interest here. I have been asked by M to not mention her name on posts any longer.
=I never mentioned your name in any posts, any MPs and never with Monica- ever. You use your real name on here? Feel free to drop mine if that's your thing. "You cum here befo? " "Yeah, I'm Sam, my buddy Rental Holes sent me, Can I get an upgrade? "
Yes, I will comply.
=great
Is this wrong? Am I whipped?
=Since you asked, maybe/ maybe not and YES
These are the wrong questions.
=You asked them, not I
"Ask yourself if a particular favorite gets killed today will I stop getting services".
That is almost a correct question.
=It's the exact question
Ask yourself would you feel bad if a post you made with names got that person arrested?
=I never did or would, so I have no guilt
I know my answer.
=great (x2)
For this reason(and a few others) I will NEVER make another post about M ever again.
=You just did pal. Just because you don't spell it out, the general audience here has their GED in hand and can decipher your M-code, especially when you quote a post with her name. Easy on that DaVinci stuff!
If a bartender who worked at a dive I liked who was good for conversation and had a heavy hand in pours me asked me to not advertise the later for fear of getting fired by the owner of said establishment, I would.
=great but irrelevant.
Same goes for the AMPs I enjoy.
=awesome
These are not your ex-wives. They are girls trying to make a living. And if one or two go the extra mile to make you feel 'special' that is not something to belly ache about like a spoiled child but rather something to celebrate and enjoy.
=Don't have any ex wives, are they yours? Monica never went any extra miles for me, but my OP wasn't about Monica it was about being assertive with all the 'Monicas' out there. Don't believe I was bellyaching or acting like a spoiled child, but I do know someone who's just a wee bit cranky today. Someone needs a nap!
And hell, maybe even respect.
=Uh, no?
FOr this I will comply with M because she deserves celebration and most importantly respect.
=Someone needs a psyche eval. My OP was not about complying. I'm stating rather emphatically that I don't work for no pro and therefore they don't order me around. If they were polite about it, cool. Being a beotch doesn't make me want to respect her or anyone else or follow her wishes. Plus I just paid $ to get scolded, I don't do that real well.
I am under no illusions about what the nature of their job is but on the other hand I am under no illusion about the nature of their job
=kind of redundant kind of redundant
The last statement is like jazz, if you have to ask, you don't know.
=it's a lot more like rhetorical and it was for the boys getting the up sell & rip-off, not you and your pal M. Read the forum. Prior to my OP there were discussions about upsells, ripoffs, fake pics and questions about how yall handle that. We got you Sam! Really. For the rest I was responding with my. 02
Back to point, treat good service with respect and celebrate what you had the good fortune to find. Just do it in private.
From my OP
=If she requests you to not post her name, I do understand. Not talking about her is retarded. Word of mouth is how good business gets done. We all know this. Discretion is important, but not everything.
And don't mistake celebration and recognition of such as delusional or being whipped by an AMP, etc
=you said it, not me.
They deserve better
=How is this a response to my post? Also, I'm a nice guy. I treat all people nicely. I never said anything derogatory except perhaps 'don't take shit from pros'
You give what you take.
=I leave twenties and take very little!
My 2 1/2 cents.
=That was about eight cents but I'll let you slide, just don't make it a habit.
For everyone else: Clearly this was meant for Sam and those that read his previous post and thought about hopping on the bandwagon.
I don't know any MP pros that I can honestly say I respect. I do however, treat them with respect. Dignity is on them though. If Sam or anyone wishes to respect them, cool. Like religion, you shouldn't push that on the rest of us. I would classify my behavior as 'being good to them'. I don't love them or cherish the time we spend, I just enjoy it.
My OP was about being assertive to get what you're looking for. I think everyone got it except Sam. Peace out Sam and Monica.
RH[/QUOTE]I don't want to engage in a tete a' tete (yes I know I am by replying but still..)
Let me just clear up a couple of things and begone-
1. If a MP asks me to not mention her by name on a public listserv then i will not mention her name. I do not want any of these girls to get busted (yes even the woodlawn/superrelax ones).
2. I did not mean to imply that 'rental holes' was using my name to get more service but that people (whomever they may be) were dropping my name with certain providers to get extra service.
3. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Weller_(fictional_character[/url])
I am not going to address the rest since that will just be a flame war that will go on too long and serve no point.
I have happy endings to get to...
I go to amps to relax. I read this forum for info and entertainment. Best not to take ourselves too seriously. After all, if we were all such studs why would we need amps. Sure, its a "hard" job, and I am polite with most of the ladies, but I treat them like I do anyone else who helps me get through the day, like my barber or the bank teller. Amp girls sleep, eat, watch korean videos, talk on the phone all day and maybe twice a day dish out a rub and a hj. I should be so lucky. Some girls provide even more and can make serious money doing it. I heard of an all-star amp girl in Atlanta that made 25k in one month. Most of these ladies are under-educated and in no other line of work could they make the kind of money they do. But, they are cold about the cash, and you forget that at your peril. So, to that extent, I agree with rental holes(a rather cynical moniker) that you should ask for what you want and tip whatever you think is OK. As for Sam, don't mistake exceptional service for an exceptional girl. One thing that I think distinguishes the asian woman from the white one is her ability to act sweet and demure while working you over for the buck; they are all bunko artists, and I love em for it. By the way, Sunny over at Smile nearly broke me in half the other day, and if on top of a great TS(fully 20 minutes) and massage she provided the full range of services the line to the door would reach out to Independence. She is a saucy one, and she exemplifies the amp girl as landshark.
[QUOTE=Cmpatlkn]If you pay $. 20 to $. 40 for a TS-Rub&Tug, you have over-paid when compared to the current FS escort market in CLT. These days your options at that price point are very good.
I for one have moved away from the slap and tickle game played at the AMPs to the more certain QM and HH FS escort market. At least there, I can be fully interactive and be 100% positive that I will walk away with the satisfaction I was looking for. Granted the excitment of uncertainty, the playful teasing and anticipation is usually missing, but those are also the greatest sources of disappointment in this hobby.
For now, I will invest in the sure thing until the market changes.[/QUOTE]
Problem with this is I actually like a good massage
Two more AMP workers busted on 6/3, we might need to save names and details for trusted PMs.
[QUOTE=The Raven]Two more AMP workers busted on 6/3, we might need to save names and details for trusted PMs.[/QUOTE]
I didn't recognize either of them . Anybody know where they worked ??
I was going to one today.
Would appreciate any info.
[QUOTE=Redskinzzfans]I didn't recognize either of them . Anybody know where they worked ??[/QUOTE]
I think the first one may be MiMi from SuperRelax, but not 100% sure.
[QUOTE=The Raven]Two more AMP workers busted on 6/3, we might need to save names and details for trusted PMs.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://arrestinquiryweb.co.mecklenburg.nc.us/ArrestAndCharges.aspx?FirstName=LI&MiddleName=&LastName=YUZI&PID=392095&ArrestNumber=1455312&BrowseLastName=&BrowseFirstName=&BrowseArrest=&BrowseArrestDate=6/3/2010&BrowseLastDayArrests=[/url]
[url]http://arrestinquiryweb.co.mecklenburg.nc.us/ArrestAndCharges.aspx?FirstName=LI&MiddleName=ZHU&LastName=LI&PID=392089&ArrestNumber=1455304&BrowseLastName=&BrowseFirstName=&BrowseArrest=&BrowseArrestDate=6/3/2010&BrowseLastDayArrests=[/url]
[QUOTE=Smoky R Wood]I think the first one may be MiMi from SuperRelax, but not 100% sure.[/QUOTE]
The older one (Li) is definitely from Super Relax, so I assume the both are from there. How ironical that this place gets busted as it is one of the more difficult places for any of us to bust a nut there.