Seeking Arrangements (SA)

The SA Sweet Spot: 62.50 per hour.

Now that I've sent Uncle Sam his annual share of my hard earned money, I take a customary evaluation of my SA experiences. I've been on and off the site for about a decade. We are all in the sugar pond, but fish in different parts of it. I'd like to explain the economics of what has worked for me. If it's not a "win-win", I default to "no deal" and move on to the next prospect. Most of my arrangements have lasted 9 months to a year without any problems. The definition of SB and arrangement is still debatable, considering that a few of the regular providers started on SA and many pleasure companions and strippers are active on SA.

I don't do the basic pay-per-play on SA since there are other viable avenues for that (our local pleasure companions). I'm strictly an arrangement, monthly allowance type of dude, not wasting my time in any session where I'll be rushed when dealing with SA. The only way that I would ever pay anyone the equivalent of over 200 bucks an hour is to keep me from getting phucked, not anyone that I'd be phucking. The cost-benefit, risk-reward, supply and demand, and other factors do not justify that price point in the Knoxville area (maybe for traveling gentlemen, but not the local gentlemen). The pleasure companions in the area provide a great service to the community, but I view the SB relationship as longer-term instead of simply ephemeral.

I will not pay to meet a potential SB because it's her job interview. The competition is fierce with the abundant supply of SBs, other options exist for a quick fix including the massage ladies and free non-pros, and I don't establish an expectation for a pay-to-meet when setting up the meeting. I always provide a bit of non-monetary sugar to show my appreciation though. After finding out what her pecuniary needs are (e. G. , her mortgage / rent, tuition, a desire to spoil her family, car and insurance, etc.), she mentions what her lifestyle expectation is and I indicate the number of hours of her time that I'd like to trade for that.

For example, if a potential SB needs 1000 dollars per month, I mention that I'll need about 4 hours a week of her time (16 hours / month total time). That entire time isn't spent between the sheets, but enough sheet time so that the average is 100 dollars per hour or less (at least 10 hours / month sheet time). We may go out to eat, to movies, to events around the city, to college and professional sporting events, cultural events, to the lake, and such. I approach the arrangement from more of a mentor-mentee relationship (cut-off age is 25) and I take a vested interest in her educational and professional goals. The approach has worked extremely well for me in the past, is working superbly now, and I'm continually tweaking the formula to make the most of my time and money.

Stay lucid,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;3357046]The SA Sweet Spot: 62.50 per hour.

Now that I've sent Uncle Sam his annual share of my hard earned money, I take a customary evaluation of my SA experiences. I've been on and off the site for about a decade. We are all in the sugar pond, but fish in different parts of it. I'd like to explain the economics of what has worked for me. If it's not a "win-win", I default to "no deal" and move on to the next prospect. Most of my arrangements have lasted 9 months to a year without any problems. The definition of SB and arrangement is still debatable, considering that a few of the regular providers started on SA and many pleasure companions and strippers are active on SA.

I don't do the basic pay-per-play on SA since there are other viable avenues for that (our local pleasure companions). I'm strictly an arrangement, monthly allowance type of dude, not wasting my time in any session where I'll be rushed when dealing with SA. The only way that I would ever pay anyone the equivalent of over 200 bucks an hour is to keep me from getting phucked, not anyone that I'd be phucking. The cost-benefit, risk-reward, supply and demand, and other factors do not justify that price point in the Knoxville area (maybe for traveling gentlemen, but not the local gentlemen). The pleasure companions in the area provide a great service to the community, but I view the SB relationship as longer-term instead of simply ephemeral.

I will not pay to meet a potential SB because it's her job interview. The competition is fierce with the abundant supply of SBs, other options exist for a quick fix including the massage ladies and free non-pros, and I don't establish an expectation for a pay-to-meet when setting up the meeting. I always provide a bit of non-monetary sugar to show my appreciation though. After finding out what her pecuniary needs are (e. G. , her mortgage / rent, tuition, a desire to spoil her family, car and insurance, etc.), she mentions what her lifestyle expectation is and I indicate the number of hours of her time that I'd like to trade for that.

For example, if a potential SB needs 1000 dollars per month, I mention that I'll need about 4 hours a week of her time (16 hours / month total time). That entire time isn't spent between the sheets, but enough sheet time so that the average is 100 dollars per hour or less (at least 10 hours / month sheet time). We may go out to eat, to movies, to events around the city, to college and professional sporting events, cultural events, to the lake, and such. I approach the arrangement from more of a mentor-mentee relationship (cut-off age is 25) and I take a vested interest in her educational and professional goals. The approach has worked extremely well for me in the past, is working superbly now, and I'm continually tweaking the formula to make the most of my time and money.

Stay lucid,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]I am moving more and more in that direction myself, MM. Like most of us, the occasional momentary gratification is great, but I too am searching for the longer term SB. It is very odd that you mention price point as that is exactly what I have angling toward in my recent SB / SD interactions. A price point of $100/ hr is realistic in my mind and you just drove that fact home based upon your experiences. Sheet time is mandatory, but not every single time and definitely not all the time. That threshold should be about what you are looking at in your 10/14 hours ratio.

Happy sugaring!

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;3357046]The SA Sweet Spot: 62.50 per hour.

Now that I've sent Uncle Sam his annual share of my hard earned money, I take a customary evaluation of my SA experiences. I've been on and off the site for about a decade. We are all in the sugar pond, but fish in different parts of it. I'd like to explain the economics of what has worked for me. If it's not a "win-win", I default to "no deal" and move on to the next prospect. Most of my arrangements have lasted 9 months to a year without any problems. The definition of SB and arrangement is still debatable, considering that a few of the regular providers started on SA and many pleasure companions and strippers are active on SA.

I don't do the basic pay-per-play on SA since there are other viable avenues for that (our local pleasure companions). I'm strictly an arrangement, monthly allowance type of dude, not wasting my time in any session where I'll be rushed when dealing with SA. The only way that I would ever pay anyone the equivalent of over 200 bucks an hour is to keep me from getting phucked, not anyone that I'd be phucking. The cost-benefit, risk-reward, supply and demand, and other factors do not justify that price point in the Knoxville area (maybe for traveling gentlemen, but not the local gentlemen). The pleasure companions in the area provide a great service to the community, but I view the SB relationship as longer-term instead of simply ephemeral.

I will not pay to meet a potential SB because it's her job interview. The competition is fierce with the abundant supply of SBs, other options exist for a quick fix including the massage ladies and free non-pros, and I don't establish an expectation for a pay-to-meet when setting up the meeting. I always provide a bit of non-monetary sugar to show my appreciation though. After finding out what her pecuniary needs are (e. G. , her mortgage / rent, tuition, a desire to spoil her family, car and insurance, etc.), she mentions what her lifestyle expectation is and I indicate the number of hours of her time that I'd like to trade for that.

For example, if a potential SB needs 1000 dollars per month, I mention that I'll need about 4 hours a week of her time (16 hours / month total time). That entire time isn't spent between the sheets, but enough sheet time so that the average is 100 dollars per hour or less (at least 10 hours / month sheet time). We may go out to eat, to movies, to events around the city, to college and professional sporting events, cultural events, to the lake, and such. I approach the arrangement from more of a mentor-mentee relationship (cut-off age is 25) and I take a vested interest in her educational and professional goals. The approach has worked extremely well for me in the past, is working superbly now, and I'm continually tweaking the formula to make the most of my time and money.

Stay lucid,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]Very good info I'm test driving a potential long term now.

Went s little pussy crazy for a bit pulling back now I like t your strategy.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;3357046]The SA Sweet Spot: 62.50 per hour.

Now that I've sent Uncle Sam his annual share of my hard earned money, I take a customary evaluation of my SA experiences. I've been on and off the site for about a decade. We are all in the sugar pond, but fish in different parts of it. I'd like to explain the economics of what has worked for me. If it's not a "win-win", I default to "no deal" and move on to the next prospect. Most of my arrangements have lasted 9 months to a year without any problems. The definition of SB and arrangement is still debatable, considering that a few of the regular providers started on SA and many pleasure companions and strippers are active on SA.

I don't do the basic pay-per-play on SA since there are other viable avenues for that (our local pleasure companions). I'm strictly an arrangement, monthly allowance type of dude, not wasting my time in any session where I'll be rushed when dealing with SA. The only way that I would ever pay anyone the equivalent of over 200 bucks an hour is to keep me from getting phucked, not anyone that I'd be phucking. The cost-benefit, risk-reward, supply and demand, and other factors do not justify that price point in the Knoxville area (maybe for traveling gentlemen, but not the local gentlemen). The pleasure companions in the area provide a great service to the community, but I view the SB relationship as longer-term instead of simply ephemeral.

I will not pay to meet a potential SB because it's her job interview. The competition is fierce with the abundant supply of SBs, other options exist for a quick fix including the massage ladies and free non-pros, and I don't establish an expectation for a pay-to-meet when setting up the meeting. I always provide a bit of non-monetary sugar to show my appreciation though. After finding out what her pecuniary needs are (e. G. , her mortgage / rent, tuition, a desire to spoil her family, car and insurance, etc.), she mentions what her lifestyle expectation is and I indicate the number of hours of her time that I'd like to trade for that.

For example, if a potential SB needs 1000 dollars per month, I mention that I'll need about 4 hours a week of her time (16 hours / month total time). That entire time isn't spent between the sheets, but enough sheet time so that the average is 100 dollars per hour or less (at least 10 hours / month sheet time). We may go out to eat, to movies, to events around the city, to college and professional sporting events, cultural events, to the lake, and such. I approach the arrangement from more of a mentor-mentee relationship (cut-off age is 25) and I take a vested interest in her educational and professional goals. The approach has worked extremely well for me in the past, is working superbly now, and I'm continually tweaking the formula to make the most of my time and money.

Stay lucid,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]MM, another trail blazing post, thanks. Does your analysis include the near ceaseless requests for gifts? (one friend had 6 memaws die in one week, funeral expenses, LOL), birthdays, and the ever present need for new tires?

[QUOTE=BobVac21;3357169]MM, another trail blazing post, thanks. Does your analysis include the near ceaseless requests for gifts? (one friend had 6 memaws die in one week, funeral expenses, LOL), birthdays, and the ever present need for new tires?[/QUOTE]For me I explain once the arrangement is agreed on then not to expect any bonus till we have a good history. If they start asking after agreeing to the arrangement they are gone. After good history is established then perks, can be had. I tried the monthly arrange with 3 and 2 of the 3 took it and ran so no monthly till the good history has been established. I thought I was a pretty good judge of characters but after getting fooled by 2 I changed my thought. For me good history is 3 months.

[QUOTE=BobVac21;3357169]MM, another trail blazing post, thanks. Does your analysis include the near ceaseless requests for gifts? (one friend had 6 memaws die in one week, funeral expenses, LOL), birthdays, and the ever present need for new tires?[/QUOTE]Those extra requests can get out of hand in a hurry and it sounds like you've heard some really creative ones. All of the incidentals are included, by exclusion. Some SBs can put forth a barrage of gift requests above and beyond the monthly commitment. Their requests don't cost anything; my declining their requests doesn't cost anything either. As long as you establish up front, that there should not be any expectation above the agreed upon amount, most will be understanding of that.

Happy Hunting,

Milfman.

Gentlemen, I need to step away from here for a time, at least until some heat at home subsides. I've done this once before, so I hope this hiatus is similarly temporary. Thanks to all of you who have generously shared your wisdom and experience. To any of the incredible ladies who might see this message, I appreciate your extraordinary understanding of human nature and the importance of connection.

Since the beginning of time, pussy is undefeated.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;3357637]Gentlemen, I need to step away from here for a time, at least until some heat at home subsides. I've done this once before, so I hope this hiatus is similarly temporary. Thanks to all of you who have generously shared your wisdom and experience. To any of the incredible ladies who might see this message, I appreciate your extraordinary understanding of human nature and the importance of connection.

Since the beginning of time, pussy is undefeated.[/QUOTE]Good luck brother I've been there.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;3357637]Since the beginning of time, pussy is undefeated.[/QUOTE]"You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation." .,~Plato.

Your insights and contributions are always appreciated and you will definitely be missed. Best wishes to you during this difficult time and may you resurface stronger and more resilient than you could ever imagine.

All the best .,.,
milfman.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;3357637]Gentlemen, I need to step away from here for a time, at least until some heat at home subsides. I've done this once before, so I hope this hiatus is similarly temporary. Thanks to all of you who have generously shared your wisdom and experience. To any of the incredible ladies who might see this message, I appreciate your extraordinary understanding of human nature and the importance of connection.

Since the beginning of time, pussy is undefeated.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about the difficulties at home but it's something I understand myself. I very have much enjoyed your posts in the past and hope this break will renew your resolve to continue to share your insights and experiences, wrapped in your individual style and humor, of course. I'll look for them everyday my friend. Take care.

Fit.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;3357637]Gentlemen, I need to step away from here for a time, at least until some heat at home subsides. I've done this once before, so I hope this hiatus is similarly temporary. Thanks to all of you who have generously shared your wisdom and experience. To any of the incredible ladies who might see this message, I appreciate your extraordinary understanding of human nature and the importance of connection.

Since the beginning of time, pussy is undefeated.[/QUOTE]I wish you all the best.

[QUOTE=PlowMule;3346438]I met this little beauty in Crossville today and before I knew it I had been cash and dashed. Never had that happen before. I know better too, but she is a hella lot better actress than I ever imagined. So, steer clear gents.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/a000751f-10a1-43f8-803c-e8a4fe2bb36f[/URL][/QUOTE]I had seen this girl before PlowMule posted this warning on a Meet and Greet. She looked pretty good so I decided to see her again knowing she was a Cash and Dash suspect. She texted me the night before saying she needed $150 for phone minutes (expensive phone).

We met in a parking lot around lunch time and walk into a Mexican Restaurant to eat. Then the barrage starts about needing some money to pay her "babysitter". Started out at $100 and then got down to $40. The entire time I'm saying no, nope, not going to happen.

She says "don't you trust me" and I said "NO". She says you can walk out with me to meet my "babysitter" and I said "Sure". We go outside and she is not around.

We go back inside and quickly finish eating and go back to my car. She tries to call the "babysitter", but it is more drama.

Finally I say let's try again another time, but she starts rubbing my dick and I get hard so we agree on $60 for a BBBJ CIM in the parking lot.

Funny, but she kept telling her "babysitter" that I was shady and wouldn't give her the money, but she is the shady one shifty. If I hadn't seen PlowMule's post I would have given her some money and she would have C&D me.

I will not see again and if you do, do not let your money out of your site. Thanks Plow.

[QUOTE=Gibson1970;3359789]I had seen this girl before PlowMule posted this warning on a Meet and Greet. She looked pretty good so I decided to see her again knowing she was a Cash and Dash suspect. She texted me the night before saying she needed $150 for phone minutes (expensive phone).

We met in a parking lot around lunch time and walk into a Mexican Restaurant to eat. Then the barrage starts about needing some money to pay her "babysitter". Started out at $100 and then got down to $40. The entire time I'm saying no, nope, not going to happen.

She says "don't you trust me" and I said "NO". She says you can walk out with me to meet my "babysitter" and I said "Sure". We go outside and she is not around.

We go back inside and quickly finish eating and go back to my car. She tries to call the "babysitter", but it is more drama.

Finally I say let's try again another time, but she starts rubbing my dick and I get hard so we agree on $60 for a BBBJ CIM in the parking lot.

Funny, but she kept telling her "babysitter" that I was shady and wouldn't give her the money, but she is the shady one shifty. If I hadn't seen PlowMule's post I would have given her some money and she would have C&D me.

I will not see again and if you do, do not let your money out of your site. Thanks Plow.[/QUOTE]Glad the info was useful Gibson. At least I have some satisfaction that you recognized her crap for what it was. Well played. - Plow Mule.

Ok, I've decided my time away has lasted long enough. I obviously have an insatiable need for both danger and pussy. Or are they the same thing? Anyway, I have a playdate scheduled tomorrow afternoon with a confirmed and verified 20-year-old UT student. God, it was a long four days.

Tech question: does anyone have a suggestion for a masked iOS texting app? I was using CMN News (CoverMe), but Mrs GaltGuy was able to Google the name from the icon on my iPhone to determine the true nature of the app. I've been looking for a way to change the name / icon on the app, or find a way to text via a private browser. And advice would be appreciated. The reason I ask really isn't for me' I am trying to continue serving and helping the young ladies of Knoxville. It's purely selfless.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;3361750]Ok, I've decided my time away has lasted long enough.[/QUOTE]Welcome back brother! I thought that the sabbaticals by SexHound were short-lived, but you beat all of his records. A positive aspect about the fine-arse UT students. ,. , you don't have to worry about sneaking out of their dorm rooms. ,. , you can just be her Uncle GaltGuy.

I can't speak to the app aspect, but having a separate device entirely (as others have suggested) seems to be the most prudent approach (the phone plus service for under 50 bucks per month). I also suggest getting one of those portable battery packs, where you can charge that on the inside of of your place, but keep it handy by your ho phone in case there's not enough charge time in your car.

Stay lucid. ,. ,

Milfman.