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Anyone have the email or info for the hot girl that was offering topless cleaning services? I can't find it, and she had some amazing tits.
I need help painting my office this week and was thinking of hiring a chick to help out, topless. Anyone have any girls in mind? I'm just trying to turn something boring, dull into something beautiful. Preferably with big tits
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo; 1508920]Anyone have the email or info for the hot girl that was offering topless cleaning services? I can't find it, and she had some amazing tits.
I need help painting my office this week and was thinking of hiring a chick to help out, topless. Anyone have any girls in mind? I'm just trying to turn something boring, dull into something beautiful. Preferably with big tits[/QUOTE]That's a great idea man! Love it! I'd place an ad for that. I bet you get replies.
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo; 1508920]Anyone have the email or info for the hot girl that was offering topless cleaning services? I can't find it, and she had some amazing tits.
I need help painting my office this week and was thinking of hiring a chick to help out, topless. Anyone have any girls in mind? I'm just trying to turn something boring, dull into something beautiful. Preferably with big tits[/QUOTE]I've gotten two, but keep getting flagged for removal. WTF! Hope I can work something out. Open to suggestions.
Can see it now, a boatload of SWs spilling paint all over my hardwood floors. Those damn SWs!
Btw, this reminded me of a Mexican LMP hottie that was giving me her sob story last year. She couldn't continue doing this, blahs blah, blah. Told her to start a topless handy girl biz, or cleaners, painters. Hmmmmm- I might look into it, entrepreneur that I am and all.
Would anyone be willing to exchange uber hottie for uber hottie? I have a few that I could introduce you to. You would need to be somewhat attractive and in shape for my girls. PM me if you are interested and want to discuss further.
Very nice. You are looking like a porn star there big guy.
Joe Black.
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1508855]Had these two the other night. One is a spinner (tiny) and the other is not. They are lovers and do a very nice show that you can direct to your liking. There was no rush and they really enjoyed each other and seemed to enjoy me. I will repeat. They are available and I have contact information.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1509063]That's a great idea man! Love it! I'd place an ad for that. I bet you get replies.[/QUOTE]I scored a nice Latina. Have a black stripper. Adult model chick in the wings in case other one flakes out. Going to be a busy weekend! Hope it goes well. BTW- simon love the pics you posted today.
[QUOTE=Sachsy22;1509373]Would anyone be willing to exchange uber hottie for uber hottie? I have a few that I could introduce you to. You would need to be somewhat attractive and in shape for my girls. PM me if you are interested and want to discuss further.[/QUOTE]got to hit the gym first, but you'll be hearing from me once I'm in better form. Hope to have a stronger lineup by then anyway! Looking very good so far.
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo;1509210]I've gotten two, but keep getting flagged for removal.[/QUOTE]Why they trying to keep a good man down? I would imagine they would be happy with the stimulation you're trying to provide. Economic that is.
Live and let live man. Different strokes for different folks.
Guys,
If you have "0" posts and you PM me "send me the info on the spinner" odds are you are not going to hear from me. If you have 30 posts and everyone of them is "any info on this one" odds are you are not going to get a reply. Now I don't want to sound like a prick but if you have "0" posts how do I know who you are? Uncle Leo? Maybe. I don't want to deal with that or risk having one of these cuties getting in trouble because they have financial problems, compounding their problems.
I will share information with seniors with long history. I will share if I have met or communicated with you and feel that you are a stand up guy. These girls are not pros, they are in need a little help and mentoring until they get on their feet. They need to be treated gently. Some do not want to have their information out there. I respect that and am happy that they share a little of their selves with an old fuck like me. There are some that I will not share just because I don't want to share. I want them for myself.
I'm not going to give you a step by step on how I meet them. Figure it out, get your own mojo going. I've been doing this for many years, I have a lot invested in time and money.
Finally: Simon says: Contribute.
The first clue might be to look at the surroundings.
Just saying
I don't know if any of you responded to a post on CL from a couple trying to set-up a show at a local hotel. The post ran a few weeks ago. I responded, communicated and participated earlier this week.
THEY ARE FOR REAL! Even though it seems as though it could be a scam.
Here's how it goes down. The set.up a time and general location. On the afternoon of the show they text you the location and your "password". Show up, give your donation and let the fun begin. They perform for about an hour with a very great, no holes barred performance. The evening I went there was an extra woman that was offering private services, but no pressure to accept of partake.
Seniors only, I can give details and pass your contact info along to the couple. I will not divulge their info without their permission.
[QUOTE=Truthfu11; 1511014]I don't know if any of you responded to a post on CL from a couple trying to set-up a show at a local hotel. The post ran a few weeks ago. I responded, communicated and participated earlier this week.
THEY ARE FOR REAL! Even though it seems as though it could be a scam.
Here's how it goes down. The set. Up a time and general location. On the afternoon of the show they text you the location and your "password". Show up, give your donation and let the fun begin. They perform for about an hour with a very great, no holes barred performance. The evening I went there was an extra woman that was offering private services, but no pressure to accept of partake.
Seniors only, I can give details and pass your contact info along to the couple. I will not divulge their info without their permission.[/QUOTE]Umm you pay to watch a couple have sex or am I missing something?
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1508855]Had these two the other night. One is a spinner (tiny) and the other is not. They are lovers and do a very nice show that you can direct to your liking. There was no rush and they really enjoyed each other and seemed to enjoy me. I will repeat. They are available and I have contact information.[/QUOTE]You lucky bastard.
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1509975]Guys,
If you have "0" posts and you PM me "send me the info on the spinner" odds are you are not going to hear from me. If you have 30 posts and everyone of them is "any info on this one" odds are you are not going to get a reply. Now I don't want to sound like a prick but if you have "0" posts how do I know who you are? Uncle Leo? Maybe. I don't want to deal with that or risk having one of these cuties getting in trouble because they have financial problems, compounding their problems.
Finally: Simon says: Contribute.[/QUOTE]When I grow up, I want to be like you, Simon! LOL.
Have to agree, it's hard to share scoop with guys with no record. Especially for nonpros. I try to accommodate when I can, though.
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1508855]Had these two the other night. One is a spinner (tiny) and the other is not. They are lovers and do a very nice show that you can direct to your liking. There was no rush and they really enjoyed each other and seemed to enjoy me. I will repeat. They are available and I have contact information.[/QUOTE]Your pms are full.
Hey, if you don't mind, I would like contact info for the girls. Also what type of donation would I be looking at and any particular location? I am in the western burbs. Also, I have info to trade for rockford, and location info for aurora for trade. I usually do only SW. This could be my first encounter by phone. Pm me.
Thanks in advance and as always stay safe! [HR][/HR]
Hi guys, had good success on craigslist with non pros but not so good on the places I take them. Unlike pros, they are taken back by places that have mirrors on the ceilings or only porno playing on the tv. I guess it makes them feel cheap.
Anyway, wanted to know if anyone can provide any Insite on the motels in Rogers park along lincoln ave. Which ones provide standard rooms without the porn and mirrors?
[QUOTE=AcrossTheUnive; 1511865]Your pms are full.
Hey, if you don't mind, I would like contact info for the girls. Also what type of donation would I be looking at and any particular location? I am in the western burbs. Also, I have info to trade for rockford, and location info for aurora for trade. I usually do only SW. This could be my first encounter by phone. Pm me.
Thanks in advance and as always stay safe! [HR][/HR][/QUOTE]Just emptied PM folder.
Guys, I just met a chick. Says she was picked up by an older married gentleman. 50s overweight, at a mall when she was 19. He just hit her with the verb and ended up banging her for a couple years.
We hit BP and CL, but you have to take a chance every now and then. Obviously not too close to home or work, but go for it! It pays off sometimes.
I just met her and asked her to go for drinks and this shit just opened up for me.
She's a total freak, very open minded. She does that BBBJ like theres nothing else to do the next day! Major fucking score!
Take a chance every now and then. It won't happen if you don't.
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo; 1512022]Guys, I just met a chick. Says she was picked up by an older married gentleman. 50s overweight, at a mall when she was 19. He just hit her with the verb and ended up banging her for a couple years.
We hit BP and CL, but you have to take a chance every now and then. Obviously not too close to home or work, but go for it! It pays off sometimes.
I just met her and asked her to go for drinks and this shit just opened up for me.
She's a total freak, very open minded. She does that BBBJ like theres nothing else to do the next day! Major fucking score!
Take a chance every now and then. It won't happen if you don't.[/QUOTE]Srry abbot this post, guys. I was a little drunk, and still beaming from meeting what turned out to be an early 20s stone cold freak. Telling me she was snatched up at a mall at 19 by an fellow way older, awesome! I just wanted to tell you guys to go for it every now and then. I've been tempted to at my gym, but don't want to risk getting kicked out for hitting on an 18yo. LOL. Hope the rest of my week goes this well.
[QUOTE=Sticky Rice; 1511928]Hi guys, had good success on craigslist with non pros but not so good on the places I take them. Unlike pros, they are taken back by places that have mirrors on the ceilings or only porno playing on the tv. I guess it makes them feel cheap.
Anyway, wanted to know if anyone can provide any Insite on the motels in Rogers park along lincoln ave. Which ones provide standard rooms without the porn and mirrors?[/QUOTE]I have been using the phoenician on lincoln about 5500 north for years.
32 for two hours. They do have a few rooms with all the mirrors but most are just standard looking rooms. I think the tv has one channel of porn but has others as well. Frankly watching tv is the last thing I am doing when I am there.
Randolph
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo;1512148]Srry abbot this post, guys. I was a little drunk, and still beaming from meeting what turned out to be an early 20s stone cold freak. Telling me she was snatched up at a mall at 19 by an fellow way older, awesome! I just wanted to tell you guys to go for it every now and then. I've been tempted to at my gym, but don't want to risk getting kicked out for hitting on an 18yo. LOL. Hope the rest of my week goes this well.[/QUOTE]I'm that guy. I was at Lolla and you would be amazed at the number of 20 somethings that look at you like they want to blow you right there. You got to have some game. You can't look and dress like you're 50. Get rid of the support hose. Keep in shape and always, always, tell them how pretty they are and what beautiful eyes they have. You're such a good girl. Her boyfriend is such a lucky guy."ohh, you don't have a bf?".
Simon Says: Nothing ventured nothing gained.
[QUOTE=Jeeves29;1508603]I actually have digits for this one but she only texts and it really smells like the girl is a total scam and probably not a girl! Was suppose to meet a guy outside (gangbanger) to give my. 5 to and then he would take me to the apt and let me in. I got out of there once I surveilled the scene and saw the gangbanger. Her name then (which was 2 weeks ago was Nicky Monroe. I am much better recognizing this after being burnt by a girl saying she's from New York and want to do some 420 and has her cousin go get the good stuff with you then he hands over some oregano. Tells you where to meet and she of course is not there. That happen with another CL giving UIC as the address but you end up near north side. Her Pics are attached. Also one pic from Nicky or whoever. Lots of scammers out there. Make sure you see them first before flying your kites.[/QUOTE]Someone was putting up multiple warning posts on CL last week about this one being a guy and getting roobed. I would avoid and not worry about the hassle and hustle.
Hey guys meet this girl on CL she said she is 23 college student looking for a goodtime. Turns out she wants "money" for her time guess her fling left out of town some married guy his wife found out. And so on. Well I get a room on harlem and she meets me there. 60 for an hr she sends me her pics which is her about 30lbs less. Anyways her face is cute has a lip ring which I never expereinced and really doesn't do anything. Her tits are about a C she is clean smells good. And goes to northern lives with her folks in oaklawn and does have a tight pussy. Anyways she's not for me. So if anyone wants her info let me know ill give it to you. And if you want to throw me a SW or trade I would appricate it. She's a nice girl did complain her BJ skills are about a 8 pussy I'd give her a 8 aswell. I honeslty just think she's a college **** thats money hungry. LOL
PM sent. I have 2 to trade one in Palatine and 1 in Portage park.
[QUOTE=Gbaby31;1512447]Hey guys meet this girl on CL she said she is 23 college student looking for a goodtime. Turns out she wants "money" for her time guess her fling left out of town some married guy his wife found out. And so on. Well I get a room on harlem and she meets me there. 60 for an hr she sends me her pics which is her about 30lbs less. Anyways her face is cute has a lip ring which I never expereinced and really doesn't do anything. Her tits are about a C she is clean smells good. And goes to northern lives with her folks in oaklawn and does have a tight pussy. Anyways she's not for me. So if anyone wants her info let me know ill give it to you. And if you want to throw me a SW or trade I would appricate it. She's a nice girl did complain her BJ skills are about a 8 pussy I'd give her a 8 aswell. I honeslty just think she's a college **** thats money hungry. LOL[/QUOTE]
Anyone come across her? Her pic sent was her in red bra. Seems too hot for CL once again so I'm looking for any info.
Thanks
These are the best, but you have to be discrete when hitting on them and have some money. I once left a young girl at abercrombie a $50 tip, for helping me find clothes. I'm 34 years old mind you, left my number on the bill and asked here to let me know if she ever needed anything. Lo and behold, she's wants a $200 camera, I sweet talked her a bit about how I had no time for relationships but missed the intimacy etc. Next thing you know she's got her camera and I'm in her pants.
The younger ones are ignorant, they will do a lot for $200. Just verify that they are legal. It takes time and investment but all little girls like sugar daddies.
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo; 1512022]Guys, I just met a chick. Says she was picked up by an older married gentleman. 50s overweight, at a mall when she was 19. He just hit her with the verb and ended up banging her for a couple years.
We hit BP and CL, but you have to take a chance every now and then. Obviously not too close to home or work, but go for it! It pays off sometimes.
I just met her and asked her to go for drinks and this shit just opened up for me.
She's a total freak, very open minded. She does that BBBJ like theres nothing else to do the next day! Major fucking score!
Take a chance every now and then. It won't happen if you don't.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Charmo; 1508920]Anyone have the email or info for the hot girl that was offering topless cleaning services? I can't find it, and she had some amazing tits.
I need help painting my office this week and was thinking of hiring a chick to help out, topless. Anyone have any girls in mind? I'm just trying to turn something boring, dull into something beautiful. Preferably with big tits[/QUOTE]That would be me missy 502 5098732 hope you call.
Guys, if you're getting a nice BBBJ from a lady, especially if she's young, PLEASE do not cim without her knowing it's coming and approving!
You're ruining it for the rest of us. Don't be dicks.
[QUOTE=MissySquirtz;1512632]That would be me missy 502 5098732 hope you call.[/QUOTE]Thanks, sweetheart. I will call later today!
So I used to post a lot some years ago just under MWM. Probably had over 300 posts. Was largely out of the scene for various reason but have drifted back in a bit. Had to set up a new handle, apparently Jackson changed servers or something and my old handle was too short.
Anyway, I have been using CL with some luck for years. Have met some plain old horny sluts who just want dick and no money, met a few married gals and a couple are hot (1 I still see occassionaly) but lately I am getting almost all legit replies from young black girls. Generally not my thing but a few are really cute and they all seem to be looking for an older white sugar daddy. The few young white girls I have met in the last 6 months are flat out fat, ugly and bad in the sack (some free, some who charge). So I am going to try out a couple of the cute black girls and see how it goes.
I used to get better responses to my ads for married woman but lately nothing. I have also seen more married woman posting their own ads but that is usually a waste of time since they get 300+ replies in an hour.
I do have a very hot black woman who is downtown for $150. Haven't met her yet because DT is over an hour away. Would trade if someone had something out west like Oak Brook, Downers or Naperville.
[QUOTE=JesusLovesMe;1252258]I went to one of these. Held in a quiet suburban home where you would never guess a gb was going on. I was very excited until I checked in and walked downstairs. The five. Women were all bbws, a couple biker looking chics. They all seemed very nice, and not surprisingly, they had an awesome buffet. But I had to get out of there. I can't handle BBWs. So I told the dude at the door that I forgot something in my car and boom, I was gone. If they got a couple petite chics, this would be the best thing going.[/QUOTE]The above post is from last year, it's about MidwestFantasy Adventures. I went last weekend. Still 5 gals and 30 guys. I was not impressed with the buffet, but I wasn't there for that. I go there at 7:30p, notice the few women there. BBW's? Not that night. The women were your average, normal looking gals, the ones you'd see in the supermarket or street and not pay attention too. Except for two: Late 20's tall, skinny, punk chick with lots of tats, and a slim mature blond (mid fifties?) with a nice set of bolt ons. She was wearing leather pants and mesh see thru top, very sexy. The other three: late 20's mixed Asian chick, on the chubby side; late thirties chick with BIG droopy tits and belly rolls, and a slim mid forties chick, dressed in a sexy school girl outfit with see thru top. Two other women, not playing that night, but part of the staff: a robust woman, some would call a BBW. I figured she had some German blood in her. Other woman was average.
At 8:30, that doors close, no one else is admitted. Rules for the party are explained: Condoms for anal or vaginal sex. Change condoms when going from woman to woman, and orifice. Womans preference if she give BBBJ. All the play is conducted in one room. No voyeurs, one has to participate. Then the women were introduced and their boundaries were explained. The tattoed punk and asian chick wanted to be covered in cum. The mature gal wanted it in her mouth or face. Big tits did not want facials. School girl didn't want it in her hair. All said no to Anal, but.
At 9p it was 'Take off your clothes and Fuck! ' All the women were immediately surrounded by cock. My first goal: find out which gave the best BJ: first was the school girl: very nice soft technique; punk chick also had very good technique. Asian gals teeth scrapped my cock. Big tits sucked a little too hard, (maybe asian gal made me too sensitive) ; but the mature gal was the BEST. I had to back away, as she almost made me CIM.
Punk and mature chick had tight pussies. School girl was DP'the several times. So much for the no Anal. School girl was also the most vocal of the five, especially when she was DP'ed or when her back door got hit. Punk chick was into the silent screaming trembling orgasms. Asian and School girl also were squirters. Big tits just wanted to be fucked non stop. Mature gal was a multitasker: getting fucked, sucking a cock, while stroking two others.
This went on til 1a! Towards the end, there was opportunity for one on one with the women. I was told by one of the guys that it's not always the same women at each party.
For $.5 I got to play with 5 insatiable women for 4 hrs. Deal breaker for some of you guys: providing your I D and credit card info online to register for the party. You're also nekkid with a bunch of guys of all shapes, colors and sizes. In that situation, you may "bump" into someone.
I still have a shit eating grin on my face two days after the party. I had a fantastic time, and will return. FYI: the next party has sold out.
Ad from this morning:
Pregnant and Needing!. W4m. 22 (Cresthill) I can host or travel needing some e$tra and love to please.
Said she can host until 2pm and she is 4 months along. Didn't get a donation schedule or menu. PM for email. Good luck guys.
[QUOTE=Gary Man; 1513707]The above post is from last year, it's about MidwestFantasy Adventures. I went last weekend. Still 5 gals and 30 guys. I was not impressed with the buffet, but I wasn't there for that. I go there at 7:30p, notice the few women there. BBW's? Not that night. The women were your average, normal looking gals, the ones you'd see in the supermarket or street and not pay attention too. Except for two: Late 20's tall, skinny, punk chick with lots of tats, and a slim mature blond (mid fifties?) with a nice set of bolt ons. She was wearing leather pants and mesh see thru top, very sexy. The other three: late 20's mixed Asian chick, on the chubby side; late thirties chick with BIG droopy tits and belly rolls, and a slim mid forties chick, dressed in a sexy school girl outfit with see thru top. Two other women, not playing that night, but part of the staff: a robust woman, some would call a BBW. I figured she had some German blood in her. Other woman was average.
At 8:30, that doors close, no one else is admitted. Rules for the party are explained: Condoms for anal or vaginal sex. Change condoms when going from woman to woman, and orifice. Womans preference if she give BBBJ. All the play is conducted in one room. No voyeurs, one has to participate. Then the women were introduced and their boundaries were explained. The tattoed punk and asian chick wanted to be covered in cum. The mature gal wanted it in her mouth or face. Big tits did not want facials. School girl didn't want it in her hair. All said no to Anal, but.
At 9p it was 'Take off your clothes and Fuck! ' All the women were immediately surrounded by cock. My first goal: find out which gave the best BJ: first was the school girl: very nice soft technique; punk chick also had very good technique. Asian gals teeth scrapped my cock. Big tits sucked a little too hard, (maybe asian gal made me too sensitive) ; but the mature gal was the BEST. I had to back away, as she almost made me CIM.
Punk and mature chick had tight pussies. School girl was DP'the several times. So much for the no Anal. School girl was also the most vocal of the five, especially when she was DP'ed or when her back door got hit. Punk chick was into the silent screaming trembling orgasms. Asian and School girl also were squirters. Big tits just wanted to be fucked non stop. Mature gal was a multitasker: getting fucked, sucking a cock, while stroking two others.
This went on til 1a! Towards the end, there was opportunity for one on one with the women. I was told by one of the guys that it's not always the same women at each party.
For $.5 I got to play with 5 insatiable women for 4 hrs. Deal breaker for some of you guys: providing your I D and credit card info online to register for the party. You're also nekkid with a bunch of guys of all shapes, colors and sizes. In that situation, you may "bump" into someone.
I still have a shit eating grin on my face two days after the party. I had a fantastic time, and will return. FYI: the next party has sold out.[/QUOTE]Wow, I have to confess that sounds hot. But I've never gotten turned on by the reality of gangbangs. But man, you made it sound good! I especially like that you named them "Big Tits" and "School Girl". LOL!
[QUOTE=Gbaby31;1506200]Visited her once again lives in bridgeview has 2 roommates females. Never seen them though. Cute face BBW. Huge tits nice ass. Over all looks I'd give her a 6 body since she's a BBW a 5 her tits really give her those extra points there about Double G. She usually give me an hr for. 50 BBBJ snd her skills are a 10+++ never got a BJ like this from any SW except one that I lost digits to. She does multi pops, doesn't rush. Also does anal for an extra. 20 pricee is great she's not a professional at all just a college girl looking for extra cash. Might still have pix ill try to post some. Looking for some local 47th SW or another CL gir. For trade[/QUOTE]Big, big tits. Oh my god. And very good BBBJ skills. Haven't decided if its sexy or not, but she was emotionally distant, very quiet. I generally like a woman who is really into it and outgoing. But there is something hot and submissive about a who're who just does her job. Might try anal with her next time, see if she can keep quiet while getting reamed hard. Thanks for the heads up, Gbaby!
I saw her a few months ago.
She was 100 FS I have her email PM me.
[QUOTE=SweetStuffLove; 1513837]Ad from this morning:
Pregnant and Needing. W4m. 22 (Cresthill) I can host or travel needing some e$tra and love to please.
Said she can host until 2pm and she is 4 months along. Didn't get a donation schedule or menu. PM for email. Good luck guys.[/QUOTE]
She's white and bbw, not very attractive in my opinion. I passed.
[QUOTE=Nugs15; 1513952]I saw her a few months ago.
She was 100 FS I have her email PM me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bend It;1513941]Big, big tits. Oh my god. And very good BBBJ skills. Haven't decided if its sexy or not, but she was emotionally distant, very quiet. I generally like a woman who is really into it and outgoing. But there is something hot and submissive about a who're who just does her job. Might try anal with her next time, see if she can keep quiet while getting reamed hard. Thanks for the heads up, Gbaby![/QUOTE]Haha, yea man I know what you mean she talks alot over txt then once you meet up she's quiet. Yes and no answers. She lets you roam when she's giving her BBBJ and believe me she gets into it once you get her wet. Once I even fucked her didn't pay extra because she was so wet. The anal is nice kinda felt bad because it seemed like it hurt her alot but she just took it. I dunno I guess guys who like that "rape sex" might love her. Anyways glad you enjoyed she's my dime. If she wasnt a BBW I wouldn't even look for another oone
She's been preggo at 4 months for a long time. Can anyone verify if she is pregnant or just bbw?
[QUOTE=SweetStuffLove; 1513837]Ad from this morning:
Pregnant and Needing. W4m. 22 (Cresthill) I can host or travel needing some e$tra and love to please.
Said she can host until 2pm and she is 4 months along. Didn't get a donation schedule or menu. PM for email. Good luck guys.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sticky Rice;1514233]She's been preggo at 4 months for a long time. Can anyone verify if she is pregnant or just bbw?[/QUOTE]I've done worst but never knowingly. Usually it was, make the plan, get all excited, get there and go, ugh, then thinsk: WHat the fuck am I going to do with this hard on?
Do you use condom for the girls you see?
In all / most of the pix it seems that you are not using one. Care to explain? Just curious.