Noticed a report on Yahoo news that NYC is no longer prosecuting sex workers and unlicensed massage workers. However, they are still going after mongers. Go figure.
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Noticed a report on Yahoo news that NYC is no longer prosecuting sex workers and unlicensed massage workers. However, they are still going after mongers. Go figure.
Cheech.
[QUOTE=Budd2;5307657]The better days are behind us. It used to be way more fun. Less rip offs and scammers. Good looking sexy hookers are a distant past. The new law is irrelevant, there's hardly any talent left in Ohio. I'm mongering way less, I have have to take trips to others cities to find talent. The Gestapo (as Cheech correctly refers to it) has it's own perverted obsession with hookers. Our legislators looking for political brownie points and "moral" constituents are hypocrites. Reading the Columbus board, they "saved" 53 human trafficking victims / drug addicts" You know most of them they "saved" are most likely nasty addicts with sores, blemishes fat and ugly and no one I would touch. You realize they could care less about the one's they "saved", they just want news headlines. Just be careful out there, very few decent providers left. Anyone new that looks decent is either a scam or a sting. Time to retire and stick with only ones you know.
They also arrested guys going after underaged girls. If they would just limit their sting operation to pedophiles, then I could support their actions. But to fuck two consenting adults, that's Bullshit![/QUOTE]I agree about prosecuting guys who go after underage girls. You have to draw a line in the sand in this hobby, and messing around with minors is despicable.
But I think police and politicians are using social media as a weapon. They know they can't get anything more than a 3rd degree misdemeanor charge to stick on these guys, and no judge wants to fill up jails with guys who's only crime is being horny and wanting pussy. However, there is no taxpayer dollars involved with publicly shaming a guy for soliciting a hooker, and they know this can be a powerful deterrent since every monger is scared to death of his family or employer knowing about his sex hobby activities. There have been plenty of stories about some surgeon who makes $500,000 a year suddenly being fired and blacklisted from every hospital and clinic just because he hired a girl to suck his dick at a hotel.
The only hope we have to save this hobby is if we start fighting back and making the politicians allow experimental programs to legalize sex workers, much the same as we did to legalize marijuana. We all dream of a day where a normal Joe can walk into a legal brothel in his hometown and experience no shame in emptying his nuts into a sexy lady's mouth or vagina in exchange for giving her a nice cash donation. Many parts of Europe and Asia have had this attitude for decades and I don't see them having massive moral breakdowns in society because of it.
Came across this today. May take a few years for the dominos to fall into place, but most likely will happen. At least that's what's been happening with marijuana.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=Ceasar160;5316736]Came across this today. May take a few years for the dominos to fall into place, but most likely will happen. At least that's what's been happening with marijuana.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Doesn't help us out at all, they're just not prosecuting the prostitutes.
[QUOTE=Ceasar160;5316736]Came across this today. May take a few years for the dominos to fall into place, but most likely will happen. At least that's what's been happening with marijuana.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/manhattan-stop-prosecuting-prostitution-part-185325536.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely a good sign, and it only makes sense to decriminalize the act of seeking prostitutes as well.
The only real criminal element that needs to be dealt with is traffickers, who are forcing women and minors to endure sex work under threat of violence or other harassment. I fully support sending traffickers to prison.
Even people with the lowest IQ will understand that two adults in a hotel room enjoying some naughty time with a little cash being exchanged is not a criminal act. It's Mother Nature and free enterprise at work.
There's been a sweep and sting in and. E. o. Hope nobody I know got caught up by it. 14 arrested.
Is this the article that you are referring to?: [URL]https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/05/04/multi-county-human-trafficking-operation-leads-arrest-northeast-ohio-several-victims-identified/[/URL].
Anybody know what ad they placed to lure these guys? Article does not mention any info about the girls.
[QUOTE=ColdFusion2500;5335121]There's been a sweep and sting in and. E. o. Hope nobody I know got caught up by it. 14 arrested.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BuckeyeGuy2;5335484]Is this the article that you are referring to?: [URL]https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/05/04/multi-county-human-trafficking-operation-leads-arrest-northeast-ohio-several-victims-identified/[/URL].
Anybody know what ad they placed to lure these guys? Article does not mention any info about the girls.[/QUOTE]You can lookup the offenders on case search and all but one of them was arrested at a residential location in Akron owned by the summit co land reutilization company. The other was arrested about 23 miles away from Akron in an address in the middle of the road. I can't help but wonder what that scenario was, maybe he got there and took off and LEO got his plate. But I'm very interested as to see what the results of these cases are. As far as the women "victims" that are arrested they are not made public, but they are arrested and found guilty in court. There is actually a FB page in columbus that you can find the mugshots of the women they arrest. And by running their names on case search, sure as shit, guilty guilty guilty. They don't care about helping victims, the human trafficking rescuing is their secondary priority unfortunately, their first priority is to use all the federal tax dollars that they are getting rack up overtime and make as many arrests and ruin as many lives as possible. Its all a public relations stunt. As far as the ads go I can't say for sure but I believe its a mixture of STG and Craigslist. I was at a bar one time and these guys across the bar were talking about hookers and stuff, then the guy next to me was shaking his head and was telling me me that his buddy got arrested in one of these. I'm not sure exactly what sting it was but he said "those guys are idiots, if you're looking for prostitutes on craigslist that task force will get you, happened to my buddy. " but I don't believe in this day and age they use any single site. Except for maybe some of the smaller departments. Craigslist would make sense though, I haven't used craigslist for many years I used to use it to buy cars, but unlike STG which has that disclaimer Craigslist does not which would take away the entrapment defense. This is all the info I had, I wish I could honestly say its foolproof but as we all know nothing is but hope you gents got something out of it. Be safe out there.
Escort Alligator, and Sumo Search haven't had any new ads come up in over 4 hours. Sumo was actually down briefly this morning. Coincidence?
[QUOTE=Ceasar160;5336035]Escort Alligator, and Sumo Search haven't had any new ads come up in over 4 hours. Sumo was actually down briefly this morning. Coincidence?[/QUOTE]Escort alligator was working for me around 9:30 or so this morning and I was seeing ads time stamped for the 8 am hour. Says it's down for maintenance now.
[QUOTE=Ceasar160;5336035]Escort Alligator, and Sumo Search haven't had any new ads come up in over 4 hours. Sumo was actually down briefly this morning. Coincidence?[/QUOTE]It's working now.
Just have to be very careful when you're discussing activities. If an ad has pricing in it and is a sting they will claim that paying for sex is inferred by the fact that you answered the ad. Remember the wording of the damn law.
So, if I were going to call a girl or text her, and her ad said something about rates, I would specify that all I was interested in was taking her out for dinner or a couple drinks. Especially if I am sending a text. I wouldn't discuss money in any other context unless and until I was face to face and not in an area which was / is in her control or the control of the gestapo. If she insisted on raising the issue in a way that could be considered to be inference of an illegal action then I would reiterate that I was only interested in her time for dinner or a couple drinks and then terminate contact, again specifically saying that I would not and wasn't asking or inferring about money for sex.
This may lead to some difficulty in determining rates and may be a problem until people understand what the hell is going on, when you are chatting up a new prospect. But, lets be clear, we are not buying a car here, we are trying to get laid without the related aggravation of having a relationship, for whatever reason. The gestapo and the churches and the bluenoses don't like that, so we have to shield ourselves.
You have to be very sure that you make it clear that you are not trying to exchange money for sex, by positively denying such. No hint hint, no trying to word your conversation to let her know you will pay. Remember, she knows why you are calling. You know why you are calling. If its a sting, the pigs know why you are calling. What that means is that you have to make sure you don't leave any evidence that could be used against you, and if the inference is made you have to specifically, positively deny it. That way, if it is a bust, and your attorney listens to the tape, then he will know that he can play it to a jury and you will be acquitted. And /or he can brace the prosecutor with the fact that they have no evidence and that you aren't gonna cop a plea, and your attorney is going to do the best he can to make a monkey out of the prosecutor in court.
This brings us to the point of having an attorney. Choose wisely.
Cheech
[QUOTE=CoochSlammer;5319649]Definitely a good sign, and it only makes sense to decriminalize the act of seeking prostitutes as well.
The only real criminal element that needs to be dealt with is traffickers, who are forcing women and minors to endure sex work under threat of violence or other harassment. I fully support sending traffickers to prison.
Even people with the lowest IQ will understand that two adults in a hotel room enjoying some naughty time with a little cash being exchanged is not a criminal act. It's Mother Nature and free enterprise at work.[/QUOTE]The difference is that that's New York City, undoubtedly one of the bluest and most liberal places in the country. We live in Ohio where "conservatism" rules. The candidates have to cozy up to the religious right for votes. We're nowhere near having this as our reality here.
This is even more of a reason for me to not pursue this hobby in Ohio. First it was the quality being the worst I've encountered anywhere, and now it's all of these dumbass laws that have us regressing as a state.
Not sure if I can say this but I always find it funny when people come on this site complaining about liberals.
[QUOTE=Cheech1;5337390]Just have to be very careful when you're discussing activities. If an ad has pricing in it and is a sting they will claim that paying for sex is inferred by the fact that you answered the ad. Remember the wording of the damn law.
Cheech[/QUOTE]My recent post on Akron board.
[QUOTE=Budd2;5331933]I've been using text now & text free. It's ok for remaining anonymous from providers, scammers, pimps, but I just learned irrelevant from LEO. With the new laws and aggressive enforcement I wouldn't be surprised if future stings will not even have a physical location, or arrest. They will just send a letter for a court appearance to everyone who responds to their ad. Even if your response is just "hey" it will be enough. Soon we're going to have judges that will consider the act of just responding to an ad as solicitation even if nothing incriminating is said. Its only going to get worse. I need to get a burner phone. I also will only have it on when I'm far away from home and none of my other devices with me. Only pay with cash for it. With that said, where is the best place to get a burner phone?[/QUOTE]
I agree with Budd on the burner phone, paid in cash. Of course, sooner or later they will make those phones illegal also, as our right to privacy is slowly eroded by the buffoons in congress.
Cheech.